THE EVOLUTION OF SCREAMING: from The Beatles to Slayer! 

Signed up.

Thanks for this video. Think alot of people forgot about the used and how much influence they had on the genre.

I know this is purely preference but I'd like to hear your thoughts on your favorite metalcore wave. 1.0 is what I thought metalcore was haha Then I kept watching your channel and learned how big metalcore is and what it became. I also learned that I don't actually like metalcore.. the more you know...

Total respect for the Casey Calvert rip

Was that JEROME’S DREAM at 5:30?? Those boys came to Tulsa in around 99-00 and blew faces off! Great video Finn 😎

Chesters vocals will never not be impressive. I've always felt that a lot of the scene and emo bands did screaming as sort of a party trick. To try and up the intensity every couple of notes. Kind of annoying imo. Linkin Park has a good sense of buildup and song structure. And Chester could hold legit notes while distorting his voice heavily. The guy was a beast.

@@CyclesAreSingularities its not a fry scream, thats literally his true scream, considering that chester kinda has a high pitched voice

what impressed me was how long he could hold that scream "misery" for so long, im mean the guy smoked meth, was a smoker and still had the lung capacity to pull that off and then go straight back to his more melodic vocals. that blew my mind when i first hurd that track. Anthony vincent whos a vocalist who has a channel ten second songs tried and failed badly, im sure someone out there has done it but i imagine not a lot.

@@nemo9540 didn't he stop with the drugs and smoking after Meteora?

@@ryderwilson7955 apparently he struggled with his addictions to the end, the poor guy just wanted to feel oblivion, he said in a few interviews that he admires a sociopaths ability to not have feelings. There were days when he was really happy but quite often he just wanted to crawl up in a ball in the corner and completely cut himself off from everyone even from himself. His mind was so broken from years of clinical depression and drug addiction its not so much of a shock to understand why he struggled with drugs and alcohol. I've been clinically depressed for some years now after having to go through 2 forms of cancer one of which is thankfully rare for nearly 20 years and there's days when I shut myself away and just screw this world and everything in it. I have a morphine addiction thanks to having to get my lung removed, I've been struggling with that for 18 years now I've also had never dealt with childhood trauma so I guess I can ever so slightly relate to what Chester was going through except his downward spiral began so early in his life that he didn't know any better. My story is far from unique, there's so many people out there who are going through the same and all we have is helplines and a broken mental health system which people like me have to wait at least 6 months to access. It's people like Chester and millions like him that never stood a chance to have a normal life.

I don't know why it's hard to explain that. Vocals have ALWAYS been used as an instrument. Be it singing, chanting, growling, screaming, rapping, or whatever else. They are used to create melody, rhythm, harmony, tone, and everything else that instruments create.

i’ve used this explanation for the past few years and it works very well. people usually have a lightbulb moment when i say it’s like an instrument. most people have a hard time enjoying music without being able to understand the vocals

My puppy just peed on the floor! 🤨

I miss being a vocalist... my pipes going to waste!!!! And it puts you in a better mood per you are working your vagus nerve out. I was in better mood when I sang metal.... gotta get back in the groove!... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrawwwwhhhhhhhhhh!

I've tried to explain the same thing to people from older generations then me as well as people from my generation. Whether they listen to rap , clean vox metal and/or rock. Just because you can't understand the lyrics is no reason to dislike screaming in music or the song for that matter. And if anything the fact that your worried that much about the lyrics. Just shows me how much you really don't try to take in everything the music your listening to is trying give to you. And 9 times out of ten the instruments are not even payed attention to . And that's a shame being how much hard work goes in to what we all listen to and love.

Thats what i love about his screaming too

That’s cause it’s more of a yell than a scream.

@@XViTNg nah, it’s screaming. It’s the perfect version of the technical way you scream.

And he screamed actual NOTES

@@ilikevideos4868 yes! Poppy is the same way. She’s a little messier but still on point.

I don't see why drum triggers get so much hate. I remember when I was young and in high school a lot of people thought it was cheating because they thought it made playing faster and easier which was wildly inaccurate. It's essentially the equivalent of a guitarist using a pedal to change the sound of the instrument and if your drums were tuned to the same sound pack you use, I'd say it's no different than having drum mics running through an EQ before hitting the live mix. It's actually necessary for things like deathcore or anything with a lot of speed especially things with fast double kick runs because it provides clarity to each note played or else at high speeds your double kick just sounds like a rumbling monotone drone. If anything, it makes the sound engineer's job easier in live situations.

You know I actually have gotten into a fist fight over somebody calling my fry screams/skweels after I took a big fat breath in word before demonstrating dude pissed me off I'm almost 28 and I been doing this shit since I was 13

@@dangle.300 calling am inhales*

@@dangle.300 Because perfect, sterile, accuracy is bad. Learn how to play the instrument or hire someone who can.

​@@michaelguertin7521i have no idea what you tried to say here

Ok me too but I'm 22

people had been doing this for a long time before slipknot got popular., actually, it just wasn't any bands in the mainstream. a lot of the proggier death metal bands in the early to mid 90s had both clean and growled vocals done by one guy, the best examples probably being mikael akerfeldt from opeth and devin townsend from strapping young lad, but there was also ihsahn from emperor, grutle kjellson from enslaved, jonas renkse from katatonia...it goes on

I’m surprised Slipknot wasn’t mentioned. Corey is one of the few false chord screamers that you can generally understand the lyrics of.

@@andrewholmes2576 it’s because this is a punk rock channel. Slipknot is Nu-Metal. I’m surprised they put Slayer in the thumbnail, but either way, metal and punk are entirely different. Although, Nu-metal and metalcore take a lot from punk, but metal is usually more technical.

@@andrewholmes2576 nevermind. I just looked that their next video in my recommended. They cover metal, too. Forget what I said,

*on bass* lmaoooooooo

A lot of of the early nu metal to be honest

Oh yeah the self titled album was my introduction to screaming type shit

@@joe94c I think that half of Around The Fur is screamed.

@@joe94c yes!

Gimme a scream corey

Knocked loose sounds like the dude is being torn apart

Game Vault Cricket gutturals are so fun. Just an utterly disgusting noise.

try carrying a melody

I personally love Impaled. Having 3 vocalists with different harsh vocals sounds so damn good.

I've always wondered why so many people have problems with growls when is basically the same that aplying effects to guitar, like distortion. Is just a way to shape the sound to achieve new sound textures

@@zinAab79 Because people are close minded. When they hear screaming they think "angery grrr emo music". When they hear growls and shrieks they think "big devil music". The fact that other kinds of music are popular also means they are not exposed to this so when they cone across it its a shock to them and they immediately wrote it off.

I kinda heard "beauty and the beast", but it's more about man growling/pretty chick singing opera format 😂 so you can't call it that way here

the bunny the bear

What's a good cop? Lol I always heard it "beauty and the beast"

I call it armageddon

Growling screaming to me is sorta like God's wrath far more terrifying than evil trying to be beauty

@oO{ Dawabo }Oo Danny sucked after AA's self-titled

Serj also had some bad ass growls and self titled and toxicity

Yes korn right now

@@minedude33 absolutely

@@greenbeangreg2552 *i like it bc of how dark that one part is where jon is going bonkers while sounding anxious*

Mock! Yeah! Ing! Yeah! Bird! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Shout out to Youth of Today and Ray Cappo. Love that band.

Still better than 2008 post hardcore. "You wanna hear an arbitrary sound clip right before a shitty breakdown?" "Fine... fuck you then..." *blast beats and awkward frye scream*

FoxoDile Santiago sounds like scarlord 😬

@@l-manb8054 beautiful comment

*#lolz*

Same

Who is this Chester

@@zoe-jj6jc the guy in the thumbnail. He is the vocalist of the band Linkin Park.

@@physicsisawesome696 oh sorry, i thought it was obvious that it's a joke hahah,, but still thanks for trying to help:)

Or Hopeless Records

Simple, they did the same as any successful label does. They appealed to the lowest common denominator and the denominator at the time was scene kids. It's simple marketing.

@@PrisonerInGlass you must be fun at parties

@@moisesdelarosa751 A blast.

Victory is a horrible label to be in... unless you are the marquee band

They changed the sound of rock in 99-00's. Love and miss Chester. 💔

100%.

facts Rip Dime!

Thats my exact thoughts.

F A C T S

Yes. I've been a metalhead for over a decade. I'm mostly into Technical death metal, dsbm, Progressive metal, deathcore and metalcore, and some nu metal like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, Loathe and Northlane. You should check out the band Archspire- Human Mumuration. Thank me later 🤘🏾

@@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385 yeah I like some of those bands. I'm a big fan of post hard core and emo music that this video talks a lot about. And of course the evolution as finn mentioned in other videos was deathcore music hence why I'm such a huge fan Chelsea Grin, white chapel, upon a burning body, Rose Funeral etc...

Your user name sounds like it could be its own DSBM band

@@DaijaWatson Rose Funeral! 🤘

Better than Job for a Cowboy

Same.

I work with kids who listen to all that popular autotuned hip hop shit all day long and none of them ever listen to Post Molone.

@@theicedevil honestly post malone is one of the only talented modern rappers

@@soulwolfx2291 That's an insult, considering that he's almost never a rapper, but a singer over trap beats. Listen to more modern hip hop, talent is in there.

He has a new one with ozzie

I'm literally listening to rock n roll by him as I read this comment, that's crazy

Same thing happened to Bert on warped 07

Me too because that was the year I was supposed to go see them for the first time, but they dropped off the tour before it came to my state. And Sonny quit the band after that too. They were my #1 favorite band back then, I was heartbroken.

lphns mnz vsqz Yeah, Sonny’s problem was just that he sang everything way too fuckin’ loud and it messed up his throat

How?

@@alldayidreamaboutsteak551 Because I was depressed a very suicidal and his music helped me remember that there's always a light at the end of the tunnel. That's how

@@jackgottsegen1499 oh

Still surprising given up ended up a single

And yet they still are lol

Yeah where's Glassjaw?

Kinda disappointed Escape the fate was left out kappa

yeah wb knocked loose finn didnt they invent screamo?!?!?!

That's the inherent problem with doing lists, especially if it's a "history of" sort of thing.

that song is timeless

great song, I like one armed scissor by at the drive in even more

Ugh, Jared Leto used to be great. Now he just sings WHOAAA like a douche with auto tune.

Dude, finding this random comment in the RU-vid comments section made my fucking day. I’m from the same hometown as Charlie, so I’ve been a huge fan and still bump “my iron heart” at the gym. Great album. If you can somehow get me the demos with screams I’ll Venmo you lol. RIP Charlie.

LIFT ME UPPPP WITH YOUR WIINNGGSSS AND CARRY ME AWAY!

I used to listen to life on repeat so much in high school! and i have met only one other person who was into them :( i have to assume your band was similar in sound or no? I'll check it out regardless i just like to know what im getting into you know? what a random little connection to come across but still awesome

@@seansmith4730 Life on Repeat to this day is one of my favorites 🤘🏽🙂

Could you tell me please wich video is this?

Never would've thought you watched punk rock mba

Ccfc🔴⚪

Yeah, even though they’re quite possibly my favorite band of all time, I’m still shocked that they got so much airplay on there, wouldn’t The Used being the band to cross over to the pop scene over there make a lot more sense considering that screaming in their music was nowhere near as prominent as it was for AOF

The only band ever.

I remember Much Music. I’d never heard of it until we got a direct TV satellite back in the mid 90’s.

They were sick!

I was seriously thinking about Alexisonfire while watching this video. I mean, I was listening to Linkin Park before too, but Alexisonfire on MuchMusic was my first intro to screamo. I STILL remember the first time I saw the Counterparts and Number Them video. My first reaction was wtf but as I continued watching, I fell in love. Maybe it's more of a Canadian thing? I dunno but I have loved Alexisonfire since.

This. I would say that one stupid (and hilarious) bit on ace ventura helped push death metal to the mainstream.

AGREEED I was saying the same shit

That short cameo in that scene surprised me, it was quite interesting though

It would of bend better of they brought Ace on stage!

@@BirdOfHermes83 he does in the unedited version

Every time

Asking Alexandria, Cradle of filth, Suicide Silence, Mushroomhead there are a lot of bands..

Pretty much all the MySpace bands who are still around. Looking at you TDWP. Norma Jean is also a good example. Corey in OGTA is way different from Corey today.

Trivium is a big one, Jesse from KSE, Oli Sykes is the biggest.

Parkway Drive is also going down that road, it was either that or change vocalist, his voice was slowly going away ( but you cant just get rid of Winston, too charismatic and a huge part of that band)

@@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385 suicide silences screaming style never changed they just got different vocalists lol

Man the whole album was amazing still rock it to this day

How could you forget about Finch?!

SHE BURRRNNNSSSSSSSSS

Joe Stois Jr best band

Three Simple Words is always on my playlists.

My opinion... Refused created the 2000s punk/emo/screamo/scene genre (Musically... Not visually) without realizing it... Then The Used and Taking Back Sunday made it mainstream in 2002

The Shape of Punk To Come will always be ahead of its time. Even now. Weird synth beats and violins and blast beats mixed with IMO one of the best screamers in music history. Def should have gotten more mention.

It was heavily inspired by a band called the nation of ulysses for a little fun fact :)

Agreed

This always blew my mind. I remember when Refused was the only band on Epitaph making that style of music. Then Epitaph signed on more and more screamo bands and Refused had disappeared. I always thought, “how did they know?”

He's the Indiana Jones of our generation. "This clip belongs in a museum!"

Between Whang, WavyWeb and PRMBA, no Cringe shall be left unexposed to the Light.

I've got a few with underoath, bmth, the number 12 looks like you, and alexisonfire lol

Honeywell also has this “way ahead of its time” vibe

Check out Angel Hair as well

Page Avenue will always be by far my favorite album ever. And SOTY isn't even in my top 10 favorite bands. Their other albums are still great though.

Joshua Neal Same!

314 baby

Same here!!🤘 They are still one of my favorite bands to this day, hope they make another album soon!!

I freaking LOVEEE Thursday! They never get any love!

THE TONESSSSS

I was thinking the same thing!

goes back to ancient times, could include anything. but the beatles are still an important piece

I was literally waiting for him to say Screamin’ Jay Hawkins from the start.. i was disappointed

Absolutely, the only one I’ll say is an oversight.

I said that when he asked for suggestions

Still making good music!

Yesssss! I still love them. I remember them as the first band I heard use screaming as a main vocal.

Great example. I'm a big fan of both bands though so I can't talk bad about either one lol. RA has the hits though.

A.J. K I love both Rise Against and Silverstein!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

@@kylehegedus5498 Me too!!!!

@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 It wasn't meant disparaging towards Silverstein. I LOVE Silverstein.

@@A.J.K87 They should go on tour together when everything settles.

Damn, The Used were freaks.

Kegan Verme absolutely!! Haha did u just hear this song? Or did u already know it?

First album was good. That is all!

BirdOfHermes83 D. Awe man. I’m terrible sorry you fell that way, dude. 😔

Fucking love that song

Fuck no dude. Not even close

The album that literally ripped off a riff from Attack Attac! verbatim. No thanks

Such a great record🔥

I cringed so hard when he said “screamo”... lmao

@@ethanlebaron6815 why?

@@ethanlebaron6815 not a big Underøath fan I take it...

I knew Finn wouldnt let us down and force me to become a youtuber 😆

I made one like 10yrs ago

but then shows a video of a kid actually getting the n64....

YESSSS

Finally someone mentions FFAF! The most underrated band

Just a thought to you

One of my faves, super underrated

Facts. Casually Dressed is amazing.

The album Aegis by Theatre Of Tragedy is one of my all time favourite albums. When Finn says "good cop bad cop"he just means beauty and the beast style vocals but he has a different name for it.

@gabriel luna that reminds me of early Opeths style. Except of course instead of two vocalists it was just the legendary Mikael Akerfeldt switching from Cleans to Death Growls.

*carach angren entered chat*

Kamelot did a reverse "Beauty & the Beast" in their albums Silverthorn & Haven. Tommy sung the clean vocals while Alissa White-Gluz did the screaming/growling. Highly recommend checking them out.

Just heard them on KROQ a few days ago

Depends on where you live lol but yeah

Taproot is awesome!

*_Ann Arbor, represent._*

Taproot is so underrated 🖤 Love that LP had Stephen on Reanimation

Man, that song Poem is still one of my all time favorites.

I was super happy he mentioned them, I agree.

Yes

They were true innovators

That scream opening Replica was the first time i heard stuff like that and i was hooked instantly

Russian blogspot life

@@ThePunkRockMBA Hey, Finn i was left with a doubt, who invented the whole pig squeal thing? where did JFAC took the idea from?

Despised Icon had them. Not sure if they started it, but they were around before JFAC.

@@bzchoy Oh yeah, i forgot about them, but you right. They started than trend in deathcore. It was either them or antagony, but i don't remember if those guys were using pig squeals. The general consensus seems to be that cryptopsy invented it and then Devourment used it, and then the deathcore bands where the technique became very popular

@@chaosaintme9067 brokencyde invented it :D

The Secret History Living in Your Aquarium the final screams at the end of Invalid Litter Dept blew my mind when I first heard it. I mean that entire track in general was wild to 12 year old ears

Agree, Relationship of Command blew my mind as a young teen and continues to do years later

I remeber send transmission from the one armed scissor, had a lot of radio play on KNDD the End in Seattle, along with The Chauffeur by Deftones...and earlier than that I'd also count NIN Head like a Hole and March of the Pigs as MTV Screaming. Before all of this the band MC5 and songs like kick out the jams or the song im super surprised he didn't mention Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin ...right before the solo and breakdown....that song was shocking and banned on a lot of radio at the time.

The evolution of his guitar playing too! Went from pretty straight forward death metal to very progressive (I hate the word prog) metal

Chuck's high scream in their cover of Painkiller was so amazing

There's an awesome documentary on amazon prime for free about him not just death tons of interviews from family members.....good stuff

I grew up with LP.. I will miss Chester forever

I would have loved to see a scream off between Chester and Maynard during their prime.

Yup barely any mention of metal, misses out on so much. Black-ish metal bands from the mid 80-early 90s too. Burzums first album in 1992 fuckin varg sounds like he’s dying, mayhem deathcrush from 1987 also.

There’s a lot he skipped over which I think is way more relevant than what he did include. Not just the ones from the death & thrash scenes, (like MA as already mentioned, cannibal corpse, six feet under, skinlab, etc...) but also the burgeoning hardcore scene of the 80’a through the 2000’s from minor threat, (really? Not a single mention of Ian Mackeye?), to blood for blood, earth crisis, sick of it all, cro mags, hatebreed, terror, throwdown, H2O, Madball, converge, etc... I mean take underoath’s success. Their rise, believe it or not, is more the product of the success of bands like P.O.D because when they hit it big, a lot of other tooth & nail / solid state records bands got a substantial bump in visibility too due to coming from the same roots, community & label wise.

This guy is not into metal. Screamo is just teenagers wanna be blackmetal/melodic death metal.... not even mentioned TBDM , that's screaming .... Hecate Enthroned fucking screaming .....

I was also disappointed by the little to no mention of black, thrash, death, and hardcore. There was a lot more styles to thrash screaming than just the iconic AoD scream lol. I thought Venom and Possessed would've been mentioned at the very least to indicate the different paths screaming took as black and death metal first came alive.

I think this is more of a how screaming became mainstream rather than a history of screaming. But you're completely right that he left a shit ton out.

Same. I fucking loved all that shit and the later wave with bands like Orchid and Jerome's Dream. All the pretentious emoviolence stuff.

Oh man thanks for reminding of Envy. So damn good!

Kinda same but he used Chunk! No, Captain Chunk! which to be fair is more cut and dry than ATDR when fitting into that genre, pretty drastic difference, especially when you factor in ADTR does have some screaming only songs.

Evan Galinsky yeah that’s fair

Insert Thank You gif

I know I'm offended that Thursday is in that. They're only mall screamo in hindsight. They started in 1998 and mall screamo was biggest years later.

I feel like it just glazes over so much! Zao, Thursday, Norma Jean, Codeseven, The Bled, From Autumn to Ashes, etc

@@dakotabro7 from autumn to ashes is definitely super important in the post poison the well/VOD wave of metalcore. Innovative in the good cop bad cop department

@@dakotabro7 Zao is mega underrated. All of their albums are amazing, they’re obscure on their own but if you know them you probably only know blood and Fire but the rest of their stuff is awesome and if anyone digs it up they will enjoy it

Great band but their lead singer (former lead since he couldn't keep his own ego in check) is a bit of a pretentious douchbag

I saw them with eighteen visions and Norma jean. Ridiculous show. I still have the Ts I bought there.

@@s.i.rjewel828 “we invented metalcore” Alex Varkatzas 2019. That dude is so damn stupid

@@tpags7398 yeah no kidding dude he basically invalidated his whole career with that one statement cause you go from respecting the music to not even wanting to listen because you're just helping inflate and already overinflated ego, that being said I totally support the rest of the band and wish them the best in finding a new lead but I've sworn off any content Alex has a part in, dude can't just disrespect decades of metal history and bands that came way before them and expect to have alot of support from the metal community, hell I don't even think I've ever heard anything about other metal egos like fronz or Ronnie radke saying anything like that and I'm not even a huge fan of those guys because of their ego but at least I haven't heard some huge blanket statement like that from them

@@s.i.rjewel828 because at least fronz cares about the history of the genre and radke got put in his place. Varkatzas needs to keep his ego in check, like they only have one good album. The curse is important but it’s not like Opposite of December or We are the Romans

Not very interested in rehashing that topic since its been addressed a zillion times, you know?

nobody cares about the Norwegian black metal scene lmao

@@ThePunkRockMBA Haven't heard you rehash the topic of Lemmy's influence on the extreme genre very much, or his rock and roll influences.

Blue Dragon then go watch some neck beard in his moms basement talk about it

@@ThePunkRockMBA Cool logic bro. This was the first video I've ever seen by you, so you just sound like you don't know what you're talking about by basically skipping over the undoubtedly biggest influence on screaming in metal.

Same for me. After I discovered the energy from that kind of music it was mostly all I wanted to listen to.

Same here. Linkin park introduced me to scream vocals over 10 years ago. I remember hearing on MTV prior but I would turn it off because I was very young at the time and thought it was stupid. Then I got into linkin park and I just felt the rare energy and I’ve been listening to rock and metal ever since.

not even a opinion, fact

Yep agreed and Sevendust.

True, his sreaming was full of emotion inside his soul

Brony Korn, I've seen you in a lot of the comments on metal videos. You're awesome

and bands like death, sepultura, meshuggah, slipknot as well....just gave more praise to the hardcore scene tbh

Jonathan Davis actually does put a lot of real emotions into them. Like he really does sound like he's in pain. And looking up a lot of the lyrics you can probably see why. Songs like Good God and Daddy come to mind.

Thomas Kuhn that’s not a controversial statement at all. He has one of the sickest vocals

I love it too. Dude from Wolves At The Gate does it perfectly.

It's one of my favorite albums.