The Failure of Chrysler's Multi-Million Turbine Car Project

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“Tomorrow Is Today, Chrysler Corporation Turbine Car (1963)” by Detroit Historical Society
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“Chrysler Turbine Car Start Up” by 2j_Rel
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“1955 Commercial for Plymouth Belvedere Turbine” by ClassicCommercialTV
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“Retrospective: The Turbine Car - WheelsTV” by Wild About Wheels
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“Introduction of the Turboflite, Rare silent footage of Virgil Exner” by phantom2hell
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“Chrysler Turbine Car official Video by Chrysler 1963” by Carrozzieri Italiani
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“Chrysler turbine car starts up! A rare sight. (shot myself at Chrysler 2014 What's New media prgm.)” by Steve Siler
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“1956 The Experimental Chrysler Turbine” by AutomobileHistoryUSA
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“Dodge Turbine Car Commercial Promo Film” by OsbornTramain
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“DODGE TURBINE CAR” by caddydady
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“Inside Out: Jay Leno's Chrysler Turbine Car” by DLMphotos
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“Chrysler Turbine Car Tested” by King Rose Archives
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“1963 Chrysler Turbine cars at the 64-65 New Yorks Worlds Fair being Demonstrated” by OsbornTramain
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“Chrysler Turbine Cars being destroyed” by Pat Redmond's Scale Model Garage
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“Starting Jay Leno's Chrysler Turbine Car” by americancarcollector
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“1963-'64 Chrysler Turbine Car Moving” by ConsumerGuideAuto
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“y2k Turbine Superbike jet plane engine sound at parx super car show” by Nikhil Sonawane
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@yeahitskimmel 7 месяцев назад

My grandfather was a turbine engineer for Chrysler. Must be a bummer when your lifes work to never comes to fruition, tho he bailed on my grandma when my dad was born so...

@Nafeels 7 месяцев назад

Too bad turbines in automotive engineering didn’t stay long. Today a small multi-fuel turbine could be used as range extenders just like the incredible Ariel Hipercar, and with the current technologies in modern turbofans such as combined cycle and 3D-printed compressor could further reduce EGT, improve fuel economy and longevity.

@Damien.D 7 месяцев назад

Volvo did an hybrid with a (volvo aero sourced) gas turbine range extender, it was fully working concept that introduced the styling of the S80. It was in the 90's.

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

Oh it stayed. It's in airplanes all over the world, from giant 747 to the single-prop turbine powered aircraft. Also very reliable, hooked up to Garmin units, monitored by microprocessors, and all the rest. But if it's got 4 wheels on it? Nope, won't pass emissions. Regulate regulate regulate. If you have wings, you can pollute all day long. If you are stuck on the ground, nope, no polluting allowed.

@bobhill3941 7 месяцев назад

@@exothermal.sprocketExactly, it's because airplanes are still allowed leaded fuel for reliability. Mazda is supposedly bringing back the Wankel rotary as a range extender. I loved this video, I learned for than I ever wanted to know about the Turbine cars.

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

@@bobhill3941 You know what else airplanes have in that JP8 fuel? Leaving lines across the skies every single day?

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Not a viable concept.

@bobcoats2708 7 месяцев назад

I don’t know that you could rightly call it a failure. They tried hard to make it viable and it just wasn’t. I think you could call it a failure if it made it to production and flopped.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Most manufacturers developed gas turbine engines, Chrysler was the only one foolish enough to build a fleet of test vehicles.

@frederickmfarias3109 7 месяцев назад

@@WilhelmKarstenBulshxt! It was a success! Chrysler did not have infrastructure to manufacture and market it.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@@frederickmfarias3109 Not true, it was a failure. The estimated mass production cost of the engines was over $55,000 in 1965, more than 16 new V-8 cars or a new luxury home.

@frederickmfarias3109 7 месяцев назад

@@WilhelmKarsten Still not a failure, costs can be reduced by materials research which Chrysler was doing, and by economy of scale.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@@frederickmfarias3109 Sorry, but that was the cost adjusted for economy of scale and automation of manufacturing process. Gas turbine engines are extremely expensive to manufacture and a similar 130 horsepower non-flight rated engine would cost around a half million dollars each in today's value. Much too expensive for mass produced automobiles.

@Grimm-Gaming 7 месяцев назад

Thinking of Jay Leno. He probably owns half the cars youve ever reviewed on here. Haha

@Minnevan 7 месяцев назад

Multiple versions of each one lol

@Grimm-Gaming 7 месяцев назад

@@Minnevan maybe. I dont think he has many of those. Eastern block cars.

@Minnevan 7 месяцев назад

@@Grimm-Gaming fair point

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

Someone's gotta preserve history. Haha

@artysanmobile 7 месяцев назад

My father took me to Yardley Chrysler in Fort Lauderdale in 1964 to see and hear this amazing experimental car. Even at that young age I understood it was not going to show up on the road and today design engineering is a large part of my work.

@BoostWorx 7 месяцев назад

I don't know how you do it! Every single time I watch your video I'm glued to the screen brilliant video again pal.

@VisioRacer 7 месяцев назад

That's pleasing to hear, thanks!

@krzysztofwaleska 7 месяцев назад

Brilliant design. Well thought. So sorry that it never entered mass production. So many fuels... Imagine what this engine could have been after 10 or 30 years for improvements...

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Development continued into the 1980s and went absolutely no where, it was never a viable concept

@krzysztofwaleska 7 месяцев назад

Perhaps then. Perhaps not now. Today steam engine would better fill requirements of euro 6 than piston one. No need for complicated accesories, high temperature fills it all. Egr, cataliser, silencer, NOx emissions etc, etc, etc...

@krzysztofwaleska 7 месяцев назад

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@@krzysztofwaleska Your joking right?

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@@krzysztofwaleska Euro 6 sets very strict limits on NOx emissions. No legitimate manufacturers would even consider steam cars today just based on the cost, of course fuel efficiency would make them unsalable

@PaulG.x 7 месяцев назад

You missed mentioning the original prototype turbine car: the Rover JET1 (1949/1950)

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

*BMW* was the first to build gas turbine vehicles in 1944.

@davidjernigan8161 7 месяцев назад

The other killer was the high oxides of nitrogen emissions from the gas turbine that could not be easily reduced.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Yes, excellent point. Although the emissions regulations did not exist yet, NOx pollution was a factor in the cancelation, the Chrysler program was ultimately canceled because of the astronomical production costs of these difficult to manufacture engines

@Damien.D 7 месяцев назад

The car was made in italy, shipped in the US to receive the drivetrain. Can remember who was the coachwork, Pininfarina? Bertone? It's a very famous name. And the car is beautifull. So sad so many were destroyed.... Very painful to see... The efficiency they have achieved with these turbines are pretty amazing, even as of today. Chrysler did mass produce gas powered vehicle in the end : the M1 Abrams. But they didn't make the engine.

@jimurrata6785 7 месяцев назад

Elwood Engel styles the car. Coachwork was by Ghia

@FilterYT 7 месяцев назад

You're the best VisoRacer! Thanks.

@javidaderson 6 месяцев назад

Fun fact the research and development that went into Chrysler's turbine technologies was one of the main reasons they got the contract to build the m1 Abrams.

@upsidedowndog1256 7 месяцев назад

Ah yes. The Y2K motorcycle! Made in New Iberia, Louisiana. It has a helicopter turbine in it. They also made boats with that engine.

@jameschristiansson3137 7 месяцев назад

Jay Leno said he made the plastic front bumper of someone's car pucker when they got too close to him on his Y2K at a stop in traffic.

@upsidedowndog1256 7 месяцев назад

@@jameschristiansson3137 I would consider that a great feature of the design!

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

Motorsport Turbine Technologies, LLC. MTT 420-RR has all kinds of claims. Would be nice to see some of those claims actually demonstrated.

@upsidedowndog1256 7 месяцев назад

@@exothermal.sprocket There will be none of that. I lived there for a few months. It was a marketing scheme.

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

@@upsidedowndog1256 There's strips and tracks and places to test it. Why won't they?

@benbrown2119 7 месяцев назад

Another chapter of the land-going gas turbine powered vehicles that deserves a video is gas-turbine locomotives.

@epicseadragon1692 7 месяцев назад

Very nice video as always, thank you! It is clear that turbines are unsuited for cars, but I've been wondering if *maybe* one could consider using a turbine as a power generator/range extender for e.g. an electric/hybrid truck (either semi, or else). That would retain many of the advantages of the turbine wrt piston engines, while alleviating many disadvantages like throttle response, etc. Just an idea :D

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Not a viable concept either.

@audriusbaranauskas6227 7 месяцев назад

Car jet engines chillin' with rotary engines thinking "where did it all go wrong?"

@PaulG.x 7 месяцев назад

Neighbour looks over the fence: "Dude you left the engine running." Turbocar owner pops his head up: "Nah ,I'm vacuuming the floor mats."

@Hubjeep 7 месяцев назад

My man Steve Lehto wrote a book about this car!

@memorimusic420 3 месяца назад

The Chrysler turbine car is genuinely the coolest car ever made!

@TundeEszlari 7 месяцев назад

Magical video.😁

@Iowa599 7 месяцев назад

@2:30 Removable front-end, like a drag car!

@TheSlowDude 7 месяцев назад

Thanks again :-)

@tintindb 4 месяца назад

Two thoughts keep popping up. Afterburner... Supercruise....🤔😉

@jamest.5001 7 месяцев назад

This tech used along with hydride tech. Seems to be a perfect car. Use the electric motor to handle the acceleration duties. While the engine slowly accelerates. The vehicle is moving at the requested speed. Then the engine recoupled to the drive. It could be electric with a turbine generator. The turbine only running to charge the batteries only, It could have a location for a 20lb propane tank. A 10 gallon gas tank, a 10 gallon kerosene/Diesel tank, and a 10 gallon ethanol/methanol tank. And s used oil tank, to akloe used and cleaned vegetable oil, or used engine oil to be used as fuel, Or the gas, diesel, kerosene could be one tank. And the methel/ethenol tank could be separate. Alcohol doesn't mix well with diesel,

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Gas turbine engines are completely unsuitable for hybrid electric vehicles. Not a very practical concept, you need multiple fuel control systems for each type of fuel.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Gas turbine engines are completely unsuitable for hybrid electric vehicles. Not a very practical concept, you need multiple fuel control systems for each type of fuel.

@denniscarroll7696 7 месяцев назад

Every time I hear this car turbine engine turbine engine, it sounds like a 1940s Electrolux canister vacuum cleaner. ...but on a larger scale.

@Low760 7 месяцев назад

Ah so Christine was a jet engine too. Makes sense :p

@davidmonro3270 22 дня назад

At that time the race was for a low emission engine. A friend of mine designed and built a steam power unit that was the lowest emission in the world and still is to my knowledge. Took it to C.A.where it was successfully demonstrated to the public, Senators from Washington, vehicle builders and car clubs. Did they do anything about it, NO. We went to a demonstration at ANN ARBOR M.I. by the major motor mfrs.. Disappointing to say the least. Around that time a German company was given by the government100Ml. Euros to build a steamer. It turned out to be a lemon. As for the turbine car we did not it as a winner . Sorry to say just don get, it They just can't get it.

@chuckselvage3157 7 месяцев назад

It's said u could run those on anything combustible shame they never really took off.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

The production models only ran on petroleum

@Xayuap 7 месяцев назад

oh, yeah, Laurence Fishburn Biker Boyz bike. let's talk about that baby,

@Tom-wl9sx 7 месяцев назад

Alot of interesting cars were made during this time. Nowadays everyone looks the same. Keep on with the good work 😀

@fetzerpf 7 месяцев назад

This was the gen 4 engine but they had a gen 7 witch was smaller more effective an fuel saving and easyier to build but this engine was to good for the other Companys

@hammeredbassman88 7 месяцев назад

For something that sounds like a vacuum cleaner rolling down the road, what a cool little machine. Shame they never materialised.

@Dinolobe376 7 месяцев назад

Please stop saying "degree of celsius" 😂 I don’t know where the "of" came from but it’s not needed. It’s just "degree celsius". Most of the time people just omit the degree part and say something like "water boils at 100 Celsius or 212 Fahrenheit"

@aquilaaudax6033 7 месяцев назад

✋🏼🇦🇺👍🏼

@frederickmfarias3109 7 месяцев назад

Not a failure at all, as your video demonstrates, jet engines are the most efficient and powerful. And it worked. Chrysler was the greatest automaker at the time. But did not have the infrastructure to manufacture and market its turbine car. It’s a failure of having a regulatory regime on the U. S. banking system.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

It was an epic failure and was never a viable concept. Gas turbine engines are completely unsuitable for automobile applications, they are too expensive and not fuel efficient at all, these cars averaged 5 mpg circuit and 15 highway, not impressive either with just 130 very sluggish horses.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

The program was canceled simply because consumers were not willing or able to afford the staggering cost of the gas turbine engine estimated to be over $55,000 dollars!!!

@frederickmfarias3109 7 месяцев назад

@@WilhelmKarsten Chrysler had previously problems in costs in manufacture of costs of critical parts of the car, but in engineering innovation was able to bring it down. They could have done the same in manufacturing the car itself overall, and In economy of scale.!

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@frederickmfarias3109 7 месяцев назад

@@WilhelmKarsten They already proved the suitability.

@infernoking7504 7 месяцев назад

18mpg isn't that bad at all

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

5mpg city is really bad

@krakhedd 7 месяцев назад

It seems like a turbine-electric hybrid would be perfect for today's markets

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

Not a viable concept either

@1allan2 7 месяцев назад

Was it the threat of reliability affecting profits of the repair industry ??? Turbines used in a common American tank seem to prove this......

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

This was never an economically viable concept. The M1 Abrams scandal is not a good analogy.. The General Motors XM1 won the army trials, it's Continental AVCR-1360 Diesel engine beat the Lycoming AGT-1500 gas turbine in every respect. The Turbine is the biggest flaw in the M1 design.

@cherylweber1246 7 месяцев назад

I believe Chrysler would have continued development of the turbine. There was concerns and pressure brought by the government, I believe that was more the reason then technology.

@bocahdongo7769 7 месяцев назад

Nah, it's too expensive for Chrysler anyway

@exothermal.sprocket 7 месяцев назад

Regulations, regulations, regulations. That's why. Also, aircraft have furthered jet-turbine technology very well. Turns out if you have wings, you can pollute the skies to your heart's content. If you are stuck on the ground, nope. Regulations, regulations, regulations.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

That theory doesn't hold water, production costs was the reason for canceling the program.

@WilhelmKarsten 7 месяцев назад

@@exothermal.sprocketNope, it a matter of economics and duty cycle. Gas turbine engines are more economical in commercial and military aircraft and their long service life spreads the cost of producing them over decades. Aircraft need high power output in cruising, automobiles seldom require high power output.

@srimansanjit6588 7 месяцев назад

Fourth

@stevenbean9706 5 месяцев назад

still much much better than the ev cars being offered today ! you can literally burn hundreds of types of fuels in this car ! takes coal or petroleum products to make power to charge a tesla or ev ! destroy the planet mining materials to build the tesla these turbines were a great idea ! still are