The FAILURE of Disney XD's Marvel Cartoons and the FUTURE of Marvel Animation 

I'm confused. So you said the Hulu shows got cancelled but Hit Monkey still came out, did you mean like the second season got cancelled?

Correct, before the show's finished their first seasons, they already knew they wouldn't get a second. Dazzler and tigra and Howard the duck were canceled mid production. Modok and hit had too much work in the can to scrap

@@SuperSwimTeam7 well that sucks. I actually enjoyed Hit Monkey (tho its only cuz I like these extra violent type animations). Like I was finally excited about a Marvel animation and they cancell it. Man, I miss these animated shows that are tied to the comics.

@@SuperSwimTeam7 Defending The Long Halloween, it was meant to extend Harvey Dent'a origin into becoming Two Face as well as great comeback for Carmen Falcone and is the only reason why he gets work. But yeah he shouldn't have done work with the third Marvel Animated Universe, it had two Spiderman shows! That's how little he cared about Continuity within it. But as I Marvel Fan here's an honest question, how would you do a MAU?

That was Isaac Permuletter's idea. He wants to follow-up on its success. And even cutted off the X-Men and Fantastic Four just because theybwrren't in the MCU.

@@juanrisa945 I’m a firm believer that ZERO animation. Should be tied to the MCU. With so many amazing comic stories, animation is the one place to get these stories told without the restrictions of live action.

@@blakekwamin7400 I wasn't defenfing him or anything (i sincerely don't care). I was just pointing out its all his fault.

I agree my friend

@@blakekwamin7400 why not just do both? Make animated shows tying things together like mentioned in this video, and then also have separate projects started back up like earths mightiest hero’s and spectacular spider man.

And that's exactly why I rushed the video out so quickly! It wasn't supposed to drop till Weds!!!

Wait is Deadpool a mutant, I thought he got powers because he wanted to stop his cancer?

@The Fat Piranha Plant through mutation.

@@ethanwilliams7706 Ah I see

@@IcyDiamond I mean with Deadpool already being planned on coming into the MCU without the Scarlet Witch having brought him in. He's an X-Men character they plan to bring in without any of Wanda's magic. They can do the same for the other X-Men characters.

Scarlet witch bringing them in was always a terrible idea for many reasons....in addition to giving a character who is not even a xman so much sway over the direction of the franchise would be a disaster and completely ruin what it means to be a mutant.

I'm really hopeful for the show but the rumors about it getting canceled have me scared

Ikr?? like I hate being the only kid that likes those 90's and early 2000's cartoons :(

@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Just because they didn’t connect with you doesn’t mean they were bad they just tried something new and different I found them very wholesome and whimsical I find them for all ages But even if they were for “toddlers” so what little kids deserve to have a gateway to marvel too Stop gatekeeping marvel isn’t just for older fans it should have something for everyone

Just because they didn’t connect with you doesn’t mean they were bad they just tried something new and different I found them very wholesome and whimsical I find them for all ages But even if they were for “toddlers” so what little kids deserve to have a gateway to marvel too Stop gatekeeping marvel isn’t just for older fans it should have something for everyone

@@madnessarcade7447 They still weren't great and didn't held a candle to previous generation. Everyone deserves better shows. You like them? Great! Good for you! But objectively speaking - they're aren't up to standards that were set before.

Don't worry about it, I already outgrew and retired from the MCU already since I'm not allowed to have a positive opinion on the Venom movies anymore because I'm usally the only one that likes the Venom movies :/

@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 who gives a damn.

@@isaiahkayode6526 Yet you don't.

@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 why not? Those movies were great! Don’t care what others think just enjoy what you enjoy.

PREACH!!! And the toys that came from those Marvel cartoons sucked too. They don't even make Marvel Legends of them.

And also it felt like berserk 2016

@@SuperSwimTeam7 they do?

@@SuperSwimTeam7 Just because they didn’t connect with you doesn’t mean they were bad they just tried something new and different I found them very wholesome and whimsical I find them for all ages But even if they were for “toddlers” so what little kids deserve to have a gateway to marvel too Stop gatekeeping marvel isn’t just for older fans it should have something for everyone

Just because they didn’t connect with you doesn’t mean they were bad they just tried something new and different I found them very wholesome and whimsical I find them for all ages But even if they were for “toddlers” so what little kids deserve to have a gateway to marvel too Stop gatekeeping marvel isn’t just for older fans it should have something for everyone

That's what I was referring to

@@SuperSwimTeam7was the second season originally cancelled cuz a trailer for it just dropped (which is very hype indeed)

They could do Raimiverse Animated series adapting Spiderman movie videogames

I like your ideas could i pick up them to make fanfictions?

How so? I mean, idk, it depends on what stories your talking about. But this is a reason why I always liked the idea of splitting Star Wars into legends and canon, like the clone wars 2003 doesn’t fit with the 2008 one in the same place, not to mention that legends has a SHITTON of continuity errors, like seriously half of that is fixing stuff that came before, and unfortunately it seems like canon will have to do the same.

Also Destroying Luke's Legacy, infavor for Rey's Jedi Order.

Check.

@@BlueTyphoon2017 The Classic EU only had a crazy amount of continuity because of TCW. As TCW did its it's own thing 99.9999% of the time.

I'm very much in the same boat here

@@SuperSwimTeam7 Thank you

@@SuperSwimTeam7 This would be super interesting.

Wrote and edited that before the announcement lolol

that would be the perfect point in the timeline to explore too. Maybe even pull a Clone Wars season 6 and adapt Age of Ultron through Civil War, then cover up to Endgame

All Because Loeb thinks kids are slow witted morons that don't have the mental capacity to understand a story arc/plot that lasts longer than 20 minutes, he insisted on cartoons having single-episode plots because he doesn't think serialized storytelling works in kids' cartoons(even though they have in the past) he also thinks animation should be only for children

@@ichigokurosaki7505 Yeah thank god Marvel is gaining traction again with animation. Say what you want about What If but that show revitalized Marvel animation on TV as a whole and they’ve been putting out bangers like Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur, I Am Groot, Hit Monkey and maybe MODOK.

Tbr Batman Hush isn't even that good, and Long Halloween just ripped off the most popular cliches from 80s mob movies like Scarface and Godfather. The man's entire career is a farce. This is the guy who killed the entire ultimate universe with one bad story.

And of course, ban, STEWIE, IS, Enceinte, too. We hate Stewie is Enceinte.

Those things will never happen

The dog days are over!

@@SuperSwimTeam7 WE MOVE 🗣🗣🗣

And job applications! Hook me up with a gig!

Thanks! Got a few in the works, the words of encouragement mean a lot,

Loeb openly admitted he just doesn't like cartoons and doesn't think they deserve higher class writing.

@@ShadowSonic2 He should’ve gotten Paul Dini to head the animation department

​@@ichigokurosaki7505 Paul Dini wrote ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers assembled and both weren't very good.

It's heartbreaking really

@@SuperSwimTeam7 What worse, when you realize Avengers earth mightiest heroes and maybe ultimate spider man (i didn't like the show) were the last animated series that were based off the comics, the rest of the lastet animated shows are trying to be mcu related. Is unfortunate they lost quality on there shows.

It's definitely more than just different mcu scenarios.

Wish granted. Marvel Studios is making a sequel series to the 90s X-Men series and Disney Television Animation is making a series about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. And with the track record Disney TVA has had in the last few years, we're in for one hell of a show.

I would prefer a direct adaptation, like how anime adapting manga

@@izuto727 speaking of anime...

Well there's a motion comics that take place in this universe.

You hit the nail on the head with the hammer

@@SuperSwimTeam7 I saw a comment on a RU-vid video saying jeph lied by saying avengers assembled is a continuation of emh, do you know if that's true or not

@@Elvusmiw it’s not true and that’s one of the things Loeb is a Braindead, unreliable, liar

I won't say it aged poorly till the 90's X-Men continuation and What If Season 2 drop, but until then... I hate how inclined to agree with you I am. The MCU has completely missed the mark these last few years

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@@SuperSwimTeam7 I meant about All the Shows under Jeph Loeb, & Ike Perlmutter's Supervision.

I will email you a 100 gb folder of fanfiction, don't test me.

Most people loved what if so you'd definitely be in the minority with that opinion.

@@iraford5788 lol they could make a gay porno and mcu shills would still love it 😂 EMH is a real marvel animated show

why not both..since ixnsey plys anssounec a mcu based naiayed show spider-man freshmne year and xemn 97 that has nothing to do with the mcu shwos they dont mind doing both so why not you and some other people in the comments saying no all niamtion must be outside the mcu..why..why not both..theirs loads of points in the mcu thye couldeasily set an amiated series to help bridge gaps inbetween movies like in btween captian america winter soilder and age of ultron where the avengers assmbled tp face f agaisnt hyrda..we only saw the ending to this coflcit in age of ultor as they rushed to get hydra out the way to use ultron so you could have atv show set thier about the avenegrs time dealing with hydra and defieritn hydra related villaisn we didnt get to see in the mcu like the serptent society king cobra and madam hydra etc, or a tv show set inbetween infinty war and endggame sicne they was a massive 6byear gap their where the wolrd and the mcu went in to a massive dark age for about 5 years until thigns was restored and shwos like these can help flesh out what actually happened during these times we didnt get to see on screen..esspecially since the main oirngla avneegrs team has been retired with endgame ssince phse 4 and beyodn i moving ahead without them you coudl ahev animated shwos keeping the orignla vanegers team alive telling storys with thme we ddint get to see..their a shit loa you could do..we never saw the avengers figth aim in the mcu so we could see that in animation . maybe during the blip aim is one of the conpanys that trys taking over after the blip dring a gigantic power vaucm aim tkaes advantage of and have aim takeover kind of like in the avenegrs game after the tarring mist exsplosion but told better then the avenegrs game..becuase tat idea could work well as the avenegrs durign this time united to stop gigant coperations like aim and roxxon from tkaeing over and keeping the people of earth save..maybe show how hulk became smart hulk sicne that happened of screen..theirs alot you could do

Eh, take away the blood and gore and it's not memorable.

@@ShadowSonic2 cap

Eh I still prefer Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers EMH, they never needed blood, gore or pretend to be a deconstruction to create epic and even tragic moments. Not saying that invincible is bad by ane means btw, just that a lot of people just center on that as its major selling point

Considering it! 90s Iron Man TAS first

It looks great imo.

why not both..why not adapt comic and also have a clone wars style animated series in the mcu that take place inbetweeb the movies to help develop and eslpore the classic cast of mcu characters..theirs no reason why not and theirs alot they could do..for exsampletheirs a year time gap inbetween captain america the winter soilder and age of ultron where the avenegrs aessmbled together again to fight of hydra..and we only saw they ending to this conlfict in age of utlron as they skiped over nydra nd wetn straight to ultron..here you can explore that tiem with the orginal og avenegrs going on missions to stop hydra around the world together and give certain charatcers more tiem to interact with etch other and more things to do thye ddint get to do with thse character in the movies and could also set up ultron by having tony get the idea to create it as well and have it lead direclty in to age of ultron with the orginal team members cap, iron man, thor, hulk hawkeye and black widow and you could call this capter in the mcu the avengers: operation hyrda..theirs a year time gap inbwetween age of ultron and civil war.and in the tie in comics the newly estbalsihed avengers team in avengers age of ultron cap, black widow, falcon, war machine, scareltt witch and the vision assmbled to face ultimo from ultron parts made bu the remains of hyrda and also set jp cross bones and civil war in this season, could alos do a season in btween civil war and infinty war since theirs a 2 year gap of what was the avenegrs doing while on the run and devided by the goverment..well the tie in comcis estbalished that team cap was going aorudn the wolrd in like a secert avenegrs operation stoping terrirots gangs and the ten rings from gettign ahld of alien cithari weopns and team iron man was prepairing for infifnty war and could even show thanos attack on xander where he retirved the power stone that was cut from the moives..oh a show that shwos what happened during the blip in the mcu between inffinty war and endgame since theirsa 5 year gap their and alot of crazy shit must of gone down in that tiem in the galxazyas half of all lvie dispeared and captian mavrel even said that wven space during this tiem was fractured..so yeah theirs absoutlety no reason why you cant have an animated series set in the mcu useing these iea to make shws off of..they could do ths and also make stuff that ahs nothign to do witht he mcu like the x-men 97 animated series they brought back and revived

Avengers Assemble has flashbacks with the EMH artstyle too

The wiki addresses it

They redesign the guardians of the galaxy also

but what ifs art style was a different art style the what you would get with most aniamyed series and you dotn like it desipte askign for new styles and it is a new style..also nothign wrogn with it it looks like a moving comic book with the cell shading art style and it works well for a COMIC BOOK cartoon to yo know look like a comic book but in motion

What if is the best marvel animated series in years and is definitely a huge improvement over the disney xd shows just for the budget and animation alone.

tell that to the what if dr strnage eipsode that had very little comedya nd also ended with dr strnage destorying his enitre universe and theirs not single joke in it..no wit theirs like one or 2 jokes threw out the entire episode while 99% of it took it seriously and played straight..or ultron taking destroying all live in the universe..drng the scenes where he is doing horrible shit thiers no jokes..yeah sure blakc widow and hawkeye have a few its of banter like these 2 characters normally would do together but its borken up from the ultron destorying shit portions of the episode and takes ultron as a threat deadly seriously..and you also need the lgight hearted fun scenes as well as dakr and serious scenes to break up the pace and alow the audience to laugh and enjoy themselves other then always being depressed..movies and storys in gnerla is like a roller coster theirs ups and theirs dowsn and theirs nothign wrogn show casein this with its tone..same wiht the killmonger episode their was very little comedy in that epsidoe as killmonger won and took over wakanda..or the episode where hank pym killed all the avenegrs as yellow jacket before the avenegrs could be formed..theirs almost no jokes and humour during these eispodes and thye take it very sseriosulys so yes it is a massive improvement over disney xd shows..your just either liying about this or you havent seen the show because theirs muiple episodes that uses very little humour and takes itself seriosuly..their was also next to no jokes in those episodes and because some episodes and moments do have jokes and are more light hearted does not take away form the episodes that arnt jokey and taks itself seriosuly theirs nothing wrong with having some light hearted jokes and enteritnamnet mixed within..not everything has to be taken 100%seriosuly and in a concept like what if you couldbe able to tackle different tones not jsut dark and depressing serious shit you also got to mix in togehrer with different tones and theirs nothing wrong with that..what you said here is wrong everyone i showed that dr strnage eiposde to was speechless by the end of that episode and had a monet of silcence as they set the moment sink in on that uncomfertablely tragic ending and how dark thigns got and that eispode was darker then anything the yost-verse did..i didnt see a main charatcer of a show slowlly beat them selves up and torture themselves other a live they cared about they wasnt able to save try to bring them back jsut to watxh them die over and over gaian slowly brekaing down the mans sanity that he loses himself trying to bring her back and even ends up destroying his unvierse and on top of that his plan didnt work..the person he trained to save still died at the end making all of what he didd for nothing and is invain becuase not only was he not able to save his girlfriend but doomed the entire unvierse trying to save her and failed..i dotn know single marvel cartoon that had an episode darker then that episode and i have watch alot of mavrel cartoons sicne the 90s to the 2000s to the modern day and nothing tops that episode and how dark it was..so yeah your wrong or your liying pick one

They shouldn't just be for "toddlers".