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The Failure of Ultimate Alien's "Clone Characters" 

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@stag404
@stag404 2 месяца назад
Still cant get over the fact that ben and gwens face is the exact same just without the lips and hair, idk why the models are so similar 💀
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Makes sense seeing as theyre related, and I would let it slide if the show wasn't so generally boring with character designs
@AmitCinematicUniverse
@AmitCinematicUniverse 2 месяца назад
I think their noses are slightly different.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 месяца назад
To be honest, even in the original show they had similar face.
@penisnt
@penisnt 2 месяца назад
Because it’s a simple art style. All you gotta do is change one feature and that’s enough for it to be someone else. Change Ben’s nose and put him in a different outfit and bam he’s now Dan, random background character #3
@astroevada
@astroevada 2 месяца назад
@@NoxiMation Alien Force Gwen had a slightly different head shape but changed around Ultimate Alien, probably due to a different studio or something
@joshstephens413
@joshstephens413 2 месяца назад
At first, I didn't get your problem with Albedo but you explained that one away pretty well and convinced me. The one I still don't understand your problem with is Sunny. She looks the same body wise because she is basing her human form on Gwen and she would have no reason to change it. In fact, she would be encouraged not to because she knows it irritates Gwen when someone that looks so much like her and is related to her wouldn't "get her" more. Sunny is the type of person that would find irritating Gwen to be the most hilarious thing ever. Also, Sunny's outfit is definitely opposing Gwen's. Sunny is wearing a tight purple t-shirt, black miniskirt and nearly thigh high heels. This suggests that she is a party girl that would bang the closest guy (or girl) she finds interesting. The opposite would be Gwen's outfit of a sweater, button down shirt beneath it, skirt, tights and loafers. This is the outfit of a girl that doesn't really party that much and would more likely be found in the library or at home studying for an upcoming assignment or test.
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 2 месяца назад
Yeah, tho some of his reasoning for Albedo is odd to say the least. A few of them like trying to be different from ben is good but only really works for hair and clothing but the bags under his eyes... I'm not so sure. The sunny stuff is 100%
@Xiaolin-Loonatic
@Xiaolin-Loonatic 2 месяца назад
One thing's for sure, Sunny is the worst (not to mention lamest) villain in the Ben 10 franchise (as a whole).
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT 2 месяца назад
the character whose features could be not cloned is Cooper, there was no reason to give him a face so similar to Kevin's one
@jacktedm9840
@jacktedm9840 2 месяца назад
Sunny's actually based on a character from Bewitched who's whole trope is that she looks like the mc, which is why her design is still just a copy-paste of Gwen in Omniverse, it's pretty expected for UA though considering every other design is a red and silver robot with a laser
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist 2 месяца назад
Is that where that is from?
@jacktedm9840
@jacktedm9840 2 месяца назад
@@MrSilentProtagonist yup
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT 2 месяца назад
her concept is based on Blackfire, see the colors of her clothes and hair, while Gwen derives from Starfire in this case
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist 2 месяца назад
@@ANIMATIONLOVERBT It really feels like a concept that has existed since forever. She looks identical to one of the main characters minus a palette swap. She is much better than the main character in her special skill. She has a rather antagonistic personality. There is a male equivalent to this but it is usually a stranger lookalike with a sycophantic personality. He usually dresses identically as the main character but doesn't actually look the same due to not being really related.
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT
@ANIMATIONLOVERBT 2 месяца назад
@@MrSilentProtagonist while Albedo becoming a clone of Ben is caused by the Ultimatrix
@spreezyuniversity
@spreezyuniversity 6 дней назад
That cooper design is so fucking good my lord
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 4 дня назад
Thanks gang
@10Bendog
@10Bendog 2 месяца назад
Love these redesigns, especially Cooper’s, whose UA design annoyed me the most, lol. Like, with Albedo and even Sunny I can kinda excuse their arguments for being pallet swaps of Ben and Gwen, but there was no reason for Cooper to suddenly turn into Kevin.
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist 2 месяца назад
I still don't get the number three thing.
@conneredwards7371
@conneredwards7371 2 месяца назад
Albedo and Cooper rock. Sunny is a good design but I personally feel she would go for more of a Valley girl look and vibe. Like it’s clear they wanted Sunny to be a foil to Gwen as an Anodite, like how Charmcaster was a foil when her niche was magic. Charmcaster already feels close to the goth aesthetic, so I would take it another opposite extreme
@albed0.1
@albed0.1 2 месяца назад
Hey give me back My Jacket. And my watch is on my right hand to dispose of Ben Tennyson.
@crystalmoon101
@crystalmoon101 2 месяца назад
I've mentioned that UAF is a good baseline build for a series after OG. If you were to take some aspects of the OG artstyle, like texture and minor details, it could help UAF's art style in the long run. Which I think you pulled off here in the video! 💚
@mertensiam3384
@mertensiam3384 2 месяца назад
I think the major issues with UAF style is the lack of the shines classic had and like the video said, lacks variety in face shapes and facial features
@Door3234
@Door3234 2 месяца назад
ngl, perfer Albedo as a pallet swap but your Sunny and Cooper designs are really nice
@godofgeeks5641
@godofgeeks5641 2 месяца назад
The only issue with the Albedo one is that on several occasions Albedo uses his appearance as ben to try to get one up on the team looking distinct would ruin that.
@jasonmadx
@jasonmadx 2 месяца назад
I like the idea of ​​Cooper being muscular, but instead of something like Kevin Levin or a cartoon version of Chris Evans, he's muscular and bulky like Chris Pratt himself. It would make sense and it would be different.
@XanderFlicks
@XanderFlicks 2 месяца назад
Great editing and designs! That Albedo design especially 🙌
@RomaroBrandon
@RomaroBrandon Месяц назад
Albedo still looks like Ben mixed with JT, Sunny looks like Gwen from Total Drama and Sam from Danny Phantom if she was taller, Cooper looks like Clyde Fife mixed with Rufus from Kim Possible.
@GurrenPrime
@GurrenPrime 2 месяца назад
I keep forgetting Sunny exists, lol.
@a_confused_spoon
@a_confused_spoon 2 месяца назад
Cooper's redesign is actually amazing, I love it
@Aphelia.
@Aphelia. 2 дня назад
8:01 the freckles are back I'm so happy
@Misaka05050
@Misaka05050 2 месяца назад
Kinda looks like Sam from Danny Phantom.
@jacksondavis3355
@jacksondavis3355 2 месяца назад
An interesting experiment would be to redesign these characters while still using the UAF art style. While everyone does look similar in UAF, just adding a few distinguishing characteristics would’ve gone a long way to make them not clones instead of a full overhaul
@olivercetus6956
@olivercetus6956 2 месяца назад
Bro your Sunny and Cooper designs are so good wtf 😭😭😭 I hadn’t realized what I missing out on and how much of a good difference character design could make
@ZanzatheDivine
@ZanzatheDivine 2 месяца назад
I definitely agree that a lot of UAF needed work in its art direction. With the first couple seasons of AF, it was pretty fine, even felt like the OS a bit if you didn't think too hard about it. But then something went wrong, and it all went downhill. I'm almost convinced it was the studio execs pushing for more episodes faster (Ultimate Kevin didn't even get time to breathe, and the writers wanted to do that arc from the very beginning). So I think all of these redesigns are perfect... but then aside from Albedo, who was fine anyway, that bar is tremendously low. Another character I'd like to see a redesign of though is Kevin's AF mutant form. Something actually unique instead of a copy-paste of Metamorpho
@Artistjames2330
@Artistjames2330 2 месяца назад
i love the redesigns you gave to albedo, sunny and cooper i just might have to give it a shot myself.
@pedrochavarria7949
@pedrochavarria7949 2 месяца назад
Sunny kinda looks like anime Sam from Danny Phantom 😂
@erikpng
@erikpng 2 месяца назад
Omniverse did well. They worked with the clone concept that was already there but didn't make him a 1/1 copy of Ben. He's flipped. Hair's different. And for the rest of his appearances, he has the UAF fit and then the classic fit. So that's as different as you can get.
@erikpng
@erikpng 2 месяца назад
As for Sunny, I don't think her OV design is as bad because it's only for a quick cameo, it basically respects what came before/makes fun of it and she actually has DETAILS because OV Gwen actually looked like a main character and not a background character.
@TYLER-fs5ks
@TYLER-fs5ks 2 месяца назад
I see, you will talk about bob, Quinn and kyle from the Ben 10 reboot
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Hell yeah
@user-vs1hr6qk1y
@user-vs1hr6qk1y 2 месяца назад
I still think they should have made sunny ben's older sister (Oh but its a retcon) so is sunny's whole existence suddenly there is a third secret tennyson brother who never gets mentioned but making her Ben's older sister coulr also be used to explain why it was gwen and ben on the summer road trip saying that max did something similar with sunny and ken (Gwen's retcon brother who is weirdly mentioned once) when they were ten and then you can have sunny and albedo have a weird team up liking a version of her brother who isn't a goody two shoes and is more like her and her chaotic and crazed nature
@moniqueperkinsmp
@moniqueperkinsmp 2 месяца назад
Hate how Omniverse and Classic has better art direction still to this day.
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
same here lol
@Deity_devil
@Deity_devil 2 месяца назад
Exactly uaf looks so bland can’t believe ppl prefer there art direction over omniverse
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
@@Deity_devil IKR!?💀
@FrenzyFanboy
@FrenzyFanboy 2 месяца назад
You really gave these characters some glow ups. Nice Job!
@Reapermaskhybrid
@Reapermaskhybrid 2 месяца назад
With my take on Albedo, I'm taking an angle sort of based on how Omniverse stuck him as a preteen Ben after that fiasco with Azmuth's brain. As in I'd rewrite him to be envious of both Azmuth and Ben's successes, angry that he can barely make anything to surpass them before his spite towards his former teacher and some punk from Earth made his creative energies flow like the mighty Mississippi, hence why the Ultimatrix was created. Well, that and for profit since Vilgax figured if he couldn't get the Omnitrix or the guy who made it, he's gonna settle for Azmuth's disgruntled former assistant to give him the means to "unify" the cosmos under his gnarled thumb, and that evolution thing was something the little maggot threw in for kicks. In a way, Albedo is like Destroyman, an emotionally stunted/immature lunatic thinking he's the hero of his story when he's really the villain in Ben's, wrecking whatever he feels should've been his in the process, maybe even using Malware as a demented echo of Skurd in the process since it showed in Omniverse that Ben needed the Slimebiote's abilities to make himself equal to a Malware-powered Vilgax.
@treymykel
@treymykel 2 месяца назад
Cooper's really the only one that needs to be changed because Sonny makes sense because she's supposed to be a wild version of Gwen like if we just didn't care about anything. He's supposed to look like being that is literally the whole point of his character. The only one that you really got claimed to is Cooper. Like I get what you're saying and I like to redesigns but I'm just saying but those two it just makes sense why they look like Ben and Gwen. And Cooper thank God you changed his ass cuz it didn't make no sense for him to have this magical growth spurt and he looks like Kevin no absolutely not if you want to do that you might as well have brought an alternate version of Kevin or a evil clone of Kevin.
@eye-conicben1048
@eye-conicben1048 2 месяца назад
"...and it is the backgrounds" LMAOOOO 😂😂😂
@HBstudios2005
@HBstudios2005 2 месяца назад
I'll never forget that meme that I saw saying that UAF Ben is just Gwen without lips
@gothicnerd6639
@gothicnerd6639 2 месяца назад
I love all three of these redesigns so much! vast improvements to the original designs, as much I like UAF I agree that the art style of that era was not good as the original series, great video! :D
@agentbluegaming7709
@agentbluegaming7709 2 месяца назад
could be wrong, but isn't the most likely reason for the reuse of base character models being that they were airing weekly and didn't have the time to introduce new characters with new models (especially if they were less important in the story, like cooper is there for a whole two episodes near the end of season 1 or 2 idr which one. He very much is a guest star, not a main character. Even then it's quicker to mock up one model for everyone than 20.)
@helenavega5545
@helenavega5545 2 месяца назад
This was so funny, loved your takes on the characters they feel more unique, no shade on UAF but dear god, in that show you can't see anything, and when you do everything looks the same plain way. Great video ❤
@NangelTapia-yq9zw
@NangelTapia-yq9zw 2 месяца назад
This man should’ve drawn UAF because he has better art Also I hate UAF art style because it’s all just a repetitive style and story
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
100% agreed!!!
@lilacocto9103
@lilacocto9103 Месяц назад
At least with Albedo he had a CANON reason for being a clone, because he LITERALLY IS ONE!
@melgozagonzalesjoshuajazie8981
@melgozagonzalesjoshuajazie8981 2 месяца назад
Maybe albedo could be a sicker looking ben ,hes white hair is genetic damage if i remember correctly,also as you said hes been either on the streets or in prison
@phillipwalters7702
@phillipwalters7702 2 месяца назад
Hello there. I stumbled upon this video and I thought that it was absolutely awesome. Your designs on these three characters were really great and I thought that your notes were neat too.
@eye-conicben1048
@eye-conicben1048 2 месяца назад
Wasn't the whole point of Albedo being Ben? Like THAT'S WHY HE WAS MAD.
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Which is why he still looks the same.
@mubs2685
@mubs2685 2 месяца назад
The fact that if cooper was to appear in omniverse he was gonna be huge in a power lifter way and they stole it from us is so annoying
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation Месяц назад
Remember what they took from us
@G.P.M_7
@G.P.M_7 2 месяца назад
My man you really cooked with those designs! Both Albedo and Cooper are great improvements. The evil Gwen i just forgot her name at this point, anything you do with her will be better
@HBstudios2005
@HBstudios2005 2 месяца назад
0:57 A minute in and I'm already dying 😂 I like Albedos look in Omniverse because he had different hair eyes and skin aswell as a mirror effect
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 2 месяца назад
Sunny was wasted. They could've done so much with her
@lutie-yn2yu
@lutie-yn2yu 2 месяца назад
Starbucks don' need more employees THESE GO HARD AF LIKE THANK YOU I CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT COOPER NOW
@niezdecytowana.k.a.2conten835
@niezdecytowana.k.a.2conten835 2 месяца назад
How did you made this *Comics Albedo* render?!? (comic Variant backround fully *black)*
@DrWardy
@DrWardy 2 месяца назад
youve done an amazing job of staying true to the characters.
@simbasorariku3
@simbasorariku3 2 месяца назад
What brush/pencil style do you use?
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Custom brush I made
@marijam11
@marijam11 2 месяца назад
i dont know about you guys but art style and animation of ben 10 UAF always reminded me of DC movies and shows
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
They had many of the same staff members
@kawaraianimeslayer4710
@kawaraianimeslayer4710 2 месяца назад
Og ben10 artstyle was the best for me
@Gamer-wo1st
@Gamer-wo1st 2 месяца назад
Damn no purple highlights 😢
@erikpng
@erikpng 2 месяца назад
8:17 I was gonna mention that one. But you seem aware. Both kids have Ben's face. Well, the boy looks more Jimmy.
@brainstorm006
@brainstorm006 2 месяца назад
Your roasts are really good. Like that one at 8:21
@dwightnorton3398
@dwightnorton3398 2 месяца назад
Nice job
@Batman-lg2zj
@Batman-lg2zj 2 месяца назад
There is no clone characters and these are just cool characters
@bazookasniper5167
@bazookasniper5167 2 месяца назад
Maroon coat for albedo
@Jojo-be5im
@Jojo-be5im 2 месяца назад
this is really cool
@pedroherrera8762
@pedroherrera8762 2 месяца назад
Awesome
@lonemotheo1964
@lonemotheo1964 2 месяца назад
Can you do UAF Charmcaster and darkstar redesign
@thedelordhimselfgokublack
@thedelordhimselfgokublack 2 месяца назад
Albedo is a genetic evil clone of Ben
@joel1245
@joel1245 2 месяца назад
No, the correct term is a genetically warped replica body of Ben.
@thedelordhimselfgokublack
@thedelordhimselfgokublack 2 месяца назад
@@joel1245 the DNA only got “damaged after feedback from the two Omnitrices
@joel1245
@joel1245 2 месяца назад
@@thedelordhimselfgokublack True but still.
@Nebulous8091
@Nebulous8091 2 месяца назад
Goated vid
@elfascisto6549
@elfascisto6549 2 месяца назад
3:22 what does taking his motion mean ?
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation Месяц назад
He's not that cool anymore
@NewSpark_
@NewSpark_ 2 месяца назад
3:48 😂😂😂😂😂
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Bro time traveled
@GUNUFofficial
@GUNUFofficial 2 месяца назад
Thoughts on omniverse albedo with the pale skin.
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
I fw the teenage version
@Chriso22
@Chriso22 2 месяца назад
Yeah was really weird it, was cool when albedo was a thing but look-alikes of gwen and kevin was just bad also the redesigns go hard.
@kawaraianimeslayer4710
@kawaraianimeslayer4710 2 месяца назад
Tf is sunny, I watched the whole thing😂(yes even the reboot)
@badumba5511
@badumba5511 2 месяца назад
I can excuse Albedo since he meshed with Ben's DNA, makes sense he'd look kinda clone-ish but I wouldn't mind small changes still, especially the clothes, he can't just wear the same pair of jeans and jacked, even when Ben transforms his clothes shift in a way to fit him and said alien (unless the aliens are naked). However I ain't excusing Sunny cause what the F? How good are them genes that you manage to have a cousin that looks like your twin? First time seeing her I thought she was some fan's traced oc from a deviantart, literally. Cooper was just lazy, straight up, das a blonde Kevin.
@AlexKlindt
@AlexKlindt 2 месяца назад
These go hard dude. Love me some UAF content in [Current Year]. A lot of UAF slaps, but there's definitely parts of it that didn't get the love it could have. The art is unfortunately one of them.
@mrkaji8913
@mrkaji8913 2 месяца назад
0:59 lmao
@lisiczka4079
@lisiczka4079 2 месяца назад
when the video is gonna come out
@Theokal3
@Theokal3 2 месяца назад
I personally do not mind Albedo looking like Ben since that's the entire point: he's trapped in Ben form. It makes sense for him to be a literal clone. Though I'll admit you had interesting ideas to make him distinct. ... I can't deny it was a problem for Cooper and Sunny though.
@multi-milliondollarmike5127
@multi-milliondollarmike5127 2 месяца назад
Definitely good stuff. Keep it up.
@demonic_myst4503
@demonic_myst4503 2 месяца назад
Albedo is a literal clone redesigning him destorysbthe point and no he didnt fail albedo wasnt controversia but mosty oved your projecting your opnions onto the comunity
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
nice opinion, unfortunately i am inside your home
@MoonlitPhoenix0
@MoonlitPhoenix0 2 месяца назад
Did.i hear you say Gwen has a brother? Because she doesnt
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Ken Tennyson. He was in the first season of Alien Force "Inside Man" but never mentioned again.
@MoonlitPhoenix0
@MoonlitPhoenix0 2 месяца назад
@@NoxiMation how in hells name do you remember a character mentioned in passing...after what I think is decade of additional episodes
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
I rewatched it recently
@lizziemonk927
@lizziemonk927 2 месяца назад
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE TEARING UP UAF'S AWFUL ARTSTYLE
@HunterStiles651
@HunterStiles651 2 месяца назад
People who have nostalgia for the 2000's battle me to no end. It was like a gas leak decade where everyone lost about 10 IQ points and developed terminal shit taste. I would argue it was just as bad as the 2020's but everyone was sleepwalking through life so no one noticed how terrible everything was.
@lizziemonk927
@lizziemonk927 2 месяца назад
@@HunterStiles651 ikr like there are good things i like about the 2000s but some of it should be left in the past. Take winx club, i love that show but it has a lot of problems, and it's getting a reboot next year and i think it REALLY needs. People act like the things that were our childhood is exempt from criticism and that anything new is always bad.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 2 месяца назад
I won't call it awful, repetitive is the correct word
@HunterStiles651
@HunterStiles651 2 месяца назад
@@theamazingspooderman2697 "Repetitive" isn't the right word either. "Cheap" is more accurate. It's functional for what it was designed for: to be consumed in thirty minute doses once or twice a week in an era when your TV having a pause button was a luxury. But it's also the sort of thing where the more you look at it, the more you realize how much of a downgrade it is from Ben 10 classic.
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
@lizziemonk927 i couldn’t agree more tbh :]
@lucanigro7316
@lucanigro7316 2 месяца назад
Saw that shit on the ink tank discord and clicked in an instant
@michaeloj126
@michaeloj126 2 месяца назад
Go fucking figure!!!
@michaeloj126
@michaeloj126 2 месяца назад
Noxi, great vid as always. Really liking the new direction of the channel but no offense to your method or anything. Wouldn't it have been better to post the renders before the video I'm not judging your creative flow man pls don't be offended That's the last thing I want😭
@NoxiMation
@NoxiMation 2 месяца назад
Nah ur good. I post the art I make for videos in advance on my Twitter @NoxiMation
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 2 месяца назад
Noxi back at it again with another banger. This comment is for the algorithm.
@Winterfang
@Winterfang 2 месяца назад
Do clone characters ever work on a story?
@DZR-O
@DZR-O 2 месяца назад
I mean you need to understand that the reason Sunny looks like Gwen was because there was a witch show and the main character played her “evil twin” so it was supposed to be a reference to that, and with Cooper if you ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT if he wants to receive Gwen’s “love” than no shit he would try and make himself look more like Kevin, so calling it lazy or a failure without bringing up any of the FACTS and just you’re personal opinion and the show literally EXPLAINS WHY Albedo looks like Ben so…
@jankoleon3785
@jankoleon3785 2 месяца назад
Tbf, Albedo is supposed to look nearly identical to Ben. That's the whole point.
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
🤓
@joel1245
@joel1245 2 месяца назад
I only like Albedo and Cooper redesign. Sunny doesn't need one.
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 2 месяца назад
“sunny doesn’t need one” are you sure about that? lmao🤓
@joel1245
@joel1245 2 месяца назад
@@joshuagonzalez4183 She can craft any Human forms as she like but the whole reason why she used a black haired Gwen form was because she's jealous of her.
@bffcst
@bffcst 2 месяца назад
I do feel like you made the characters look more like omnivores, I think you lost some of the justice league style, might be a good reference for future redesigns.
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 2 месяца назад
To be fair this guy is basically saying he ain’t digging the Alien Force art style to begin with.
@FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv
@FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv 2 месяца назад
Wait, Sunny was in Omniverse?
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 2 месяца назад
for 1 scene
@FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv
@FlameGirlPlays-gq9xv 2 месяца назад
@@theamazingspooderman2697 ah. So little of a scene, I never even knew she was there.
@Deity_devil
@Deity_devil 2 месяца назад
Cameo in one harem episode
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