The Faith Healer's Favorite Scam 

Have you read "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asherr Silberman. Two Israeli archeologist who compare the Jewish bible stories to actual archeological findings. I highly recommend it, an informative read.

Wow @ 6:04 that aussie faith healer with the pink hair lady seems to be feeling something...omg he has the power of the 🍆 running right through him WTF 😅😮

@@nriqueog So if a few things from the bible turn out to be factual, doesn't make all the stories of the bible true. Noah & the Ark clearly didn't happened. The writer of John and Matthew aren't eyewitness, the two resurrection accounts differ significantly to the point that it is impossible to reconcile them.

Still seems that you both have never been touch or led by the holy spirit; or believe in true healing through our lord and savior Jesus crist

Critical thinking, scientific theory, and absorbing/teaching others on worldly things is never the best way according to the Bible and the holy spirit. I know I'd unsubsidized when I hear the trumpets sound. I'd hate to be around when I see this host/channel owner get judged on judgement day.

They _don't_ go to hospitals. They have private doctors on retainer. You think they're going to mix with "the poors"?

​@@davidschneide5422It's standard English usage in England. You know, the place where English developed.

Or visit another faith scammer.😂

Well technically, British people refer to the word "Hospital" without "The" sometimes. Or at least that's what I see British people say.

@@ComicXanzkinda in the same way they say “I went on holiday” as opposed to “I went on a holiday” (holiday meaning essentially vacation for any of my fellow Americans out there) Brits have some interesting differences with language compared to us

I can put myself in your shoes. My mother was both a Muenchhausen and a Muenchhausen by Proxy and tried to have me diagnosed with leukaemia, a brain tumour, kidney failure, and MS, in order to get people's sympathy. She was also a Roman Catholic (she nearly became a nun) and we were at church all the time. The priest, some of her friends, and herself, ganged up on me, threatening me with a painful and early death if I didn't agree to become a nun. She initially would give me 1-2 years less to live, which became 'You won't make it past 25' when I turned 18. It made it really difficult for me to believe that I really had cancer when I was eventually diagnosed with cancer. My mother, the priest, and the congregation would also use the fact that other people, or their children, had been diagnosed with cancer and/or were terminally ill, and/or had died in car accidents, to 'rope them in', i.e. try to get them to convert to Roman Catholicism. That included visits to hospices. This is still going on today, I regularly check what's happening in that industry as I am living with cancer (I plan to get euthanasia when things go bad) and as one lady puts it:'They promise their patients 'a good death experience', but my mother refused to convert, so what she got was 'the bad death experience'' , i.e. they refuse to give patients pain relief until theyve agreed to see a priest, confess, get baptised etc. Since my diagnosis I've been bombarded with advice that if I converted (not just to Roman CAtholicism but also to Islam and to Anglicanism) God would make 'The Cancer' go away... My mother and her group also had prayer groups (rosary sessions), not just to pray for people to get well, but also to pray for 'evil people', like left wing politicians, to get cancer, die prematurely etc. When it was revealed that President Mitterrand had cancer (he'd been having treatment for it in secret for a decade, while being president), it was the proof for them that 'prayer works'! Ffffff.... As you say, these people are completely delusional. What is worse is that some of them are doctors. As a result, when I choose a doctor, I always enquire about whether they believe in God or not.

@andy, Had a debate with a fundy who said prayer heals and she had seen it first hand. Her claim was she had family members on deaths doorstep, passing at any moment, that close. She said they held prayer circle and the family member was instantly healed. Her: " Prayer works, prayer heals. I have seen it first hand on several occasions." Me: " And what do you do after the prayer circles and the person does not get better?" Her: " We take them to the hospital and hold prayer circles in their hospital room." Me: " And what if the person does?" Her: " Everyone in the room has to have faith. If just one person does not then prayer will not work." Me: " So in other words if there are 20 people in the room and just one does not believe, God sides with the atheist and not his followers." Her: " You just want to sin and you are going to Hell for mocking the Lord." I do have a humorous personal story about prayer circles held over me. Might be a little long so on request.

@@yehmen29, "but also to pray for 'evil people', like left wing politicians" There's an old saying " There's no hate like Christian love."

I was in a faith healing church for 30 years-had both my wives each die from cancer despite getting much prayer from a famous (back then) faith healer.

I quit going to church for a lot of reasons, but being blamed for failed healings for my chronic health issues is one of them. My church group was so supportive at first, but over time they started to suspect my lack of faith was the problem. The sad thing is that at first I KNEW beyond all doubt that I would be healed, and was not discouraged at all by multiple failed healings, because it was definitely going to happen any day. Then it began to be suggested that I had un-confessed sin in my life, or a lack of faith. I prayed with all my might, confessed anything that might look like a sin if you squinted at it hard enough, and asked God to reveal to me any hidden sin I might not even know about so I could confess it and beg forgiveness. Then they accused me of not forgiving people in my life that I had already forgiven (rough childhood) and I went to a special Christian therapy session to learn how to do the thing I had already done. Eventually it was settled on by others that it was for sure my own lack of faith that was the problem. After a few years of being told I lacked faith over and over again it did finally put a crack in my faith, and caused it to crumble completely. It took them a long time to wear me down though. I lost all of my friends and quit going to church or any events related to it because the people who were my church "family" had turned on me.

Just how any similar delusions not named god would be treated as mental illness.

Your avatar is 🐀💖❤so cute

@@waverider8549 Thanks, she was a very cute rat.

It's fraud and should be illegal.

When it has been implicated in the death of a child for example people have been prosecuted. But I agree that this sh*t should not be tolerated.

i seriously doubt god would look kindly on these faith healers scamming the desperate, unless these faith healers dont believe in god to begin with as the fear of god would make them not do this scam. either way fuck these scammers.

Money makes them do it.

Money and there's always new people who lack intelligence who will continue to get scammed over and over again.

Sadists

There is a special place in hell for these Grifters 🤬🤬🤬

Raw common sense. Love to see it.

In other words, they used shills to fool people.

thanks for sharing ur life story

Good for you. And may I add, that book that they revered so much that they call the bible, it's worst book that was ever printed by mankind.

​@@sieghart7889😂

And in blaming that person, scammers force them to go even deeper into their beliefs through shame and guilt.They get more and more desperate to prove they're a believer.

Luke 5 17 to 39

@@Velvetx4cove -- Sad... but True. They use Emotional Extortion. Religions biggest weapon: Emotions. Their biggest "guns", not Love, but: FEAR and Shame. It's extreme versions of = Battered Wife Syndrome and Stockholm Syndrome. Should be ILLEGAL!!!! It would be for ANY other "Business".

@@mike160543great if your Jesus, bad if you are a money grabbing scam artist …

This is a very old psychological pattern that's not restricted to Christianity. The Roman historian Tacitus tells us about two faith healings worked by the emperor Vespasian in 69 CE. Two people, one blind, one with a crippled hand, asked the emperor to spit on their eyes or tread on their hand, respectively. The emperor was kind of embarrassed, laughed at it and didn't want to. But the crowd and the two man kept begging and insisting. Vespasian consulted the physicians whether such a healing was even possible. They said that in both cases, all hope was not lost and a healing was not unthinkable. He was worried about losing face in case the people were not healed. But he was assured that if he succeeded, this could only increase his reputation, if he didn't, it would be the two sick men who would be mocked and laughed at - not him. So he did as he was told, and both men allegedly recovered. There's a clear pattern behind all this: 1. The expectation to be healed is crucial for the success. 2. The healer needs to be a person of authority and charisma for people to believe that he can work such a miracle. 3. Not the "healer" is blamed for a failure, but the victim. This pattern goes across faith systems all over the world, not only in organized religions, but also in other belief systems like new age and cults.

Amazing how this is even legal.

@@Nocturnalux The less democratic a government is the more it serves it self as opposed to its people. The US is barely democratic so the government is very selfish. It kinda feels like the democrats can just say "Yeah we may be corrupt but what are you gonna do? Vote for Trump? A member of a party that's some how even worse?"

What is POTS?

it is disgusting , and what's equally disgusting is that people believe this crap .

@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. a neurological disorder which causes, among other things, the blood vessels in the legs not to constrict upon standing so the heart has to work extra hard to get blood to the brain. this creates a bunch of unpleasant symptoms when standing for a few minutes.

Yeah, I had to skip most of that part of the video 😢

Yeah, it's painful to watch, but their stories deserve to be told since faith healers ignore or distract away from them. I have nothing but sympathy for the victims of these faith healing con men.

And even those who did, were still hobbling around at best.

As someone who believes in God, i feel completly disgusted by this Scam beyond all imagination. I desire to beat him up so much for what he did to those poor souls, despite knowing how wrong my thoughts are.

@@SolaireOfToast I’m an atheist, but I like to believe that there are more good people out there (both theists and atheists) then the scammers. But the scammers feed on people’s desperation be it financial, medical or otherwise. Breaks my heart, but we just have to try to put more good out there.

Nor do you see these "healers" at the hospital either.

IIRC, some preachers hire out ambulances to take em to the revival, just for the show and illusion of the circus act.

​@@NocturnaluxUnless they're going to get treated for their own ailments.

@@HolyKoolaid Yes. Funny how that works!

Yea. The first thing these miracle pastors would do is go to the children's hospital and heal the children .

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Healing follows : compassion.

It should be criminalized.

first time seeing someone talking about Branham, i was in this cult during all my childhood and was fairly surprised to see little to no content about debunking this """prophet""" in particular, I hope you did recover from these experiences

@@deemaske9143, Am I to assume you two are talking about William M. Branham?

That is what I tell believers in the last time. That, when they take the positives of hope and compassion and tolerance from their belief in God, then I am OK with it, but would they be not way better suited that when they see other self-proclaimed "christians" ABUSE their God for their selfish purposes, should THEY as christians not go vehemently against these people? Same is of course the case with e.g. peaceful muslims tolerating islamic terrorists or radical imams being horrendously cruel in their fundamentalism. Just as I go against Satanism, because it is for me the epitome of doing EXACTLY the opposite of what you claim you want to achieve. Satanism has a nice set of sensible general rules for life, fine. The people SAY they want to be tolerant. They SAY that they do not want to provoke. They SAY that they have no god. They SAY that it is no religion. They say they are atheists. And then they go and call their movement after a figure of the Bible that has at least almost god-like qualities, is sometimes even more powerful than the omnipotent God. They use this name ONLY because they want to provoke christians. They declare priests and create rituals, hold ceremonies, do everything symbolic that aligns with the rituals of religion. So they do everything to pave the way for religious people to declare that atheism is also a religion, is also a belief. And it is funny, when you tell satanists that they go whining "why don't you leave us in peace, we just want to have fun". No issue with having fun, but you can do that with minimal modifications in a way that is NOT the opposite of what you declare you want to be.

​@@feedingravensWow! I think I know exactly what you mean. We had THREE separate pairs knocking on our door at the weekend, wanting to tell us the Good News about Satan. And I'm sure I recognised one of them from the leaflet stand they keep permanently (it seems to me!) set up in the middle of our town. Why can't they just get the message?

@@feedingravensnever seen satanists hold rituals or cross burnings or anything else. Lmfao. Pushing back against religious fundies is not the same as being a religion yourself. Of course they want to provoke Christianity. That’s the whole point of satanism. To push back on the radical fundies trying to strip your rights away. Keep beating the wrong side over the head and you will help keep this extreme right wing going farther and farther.

@@feedingravens My argument against Satanism and why I won't join is that it's cringe. There are some respectable atheist activists who are members, but mostly it's just a LARPer club for Reddit atheists and lefties.

Of course they aren’t denouncing anyone. They’re lying to people just as much

You’re a spiritual atheist ? How does that work ?

​@xdranzer0004 Atheist just means you don't believe in God. There are Atheist witches, atheists who believe in ghosts, atheists who believe in the power of crystals, etc. Atheist doesn't mean complete lack of belief in the supernatural.

@@xdranzer0004when ever someone says they're "spiritual but not religious" I cringe so hard 😂. They're effectively saying their supernatural delusions are more refined and better than the common folk delusions. Basically it's another version of saying my god has a bigger D that your god

Athiest can have revelations and spiritual awakenings.

* not revelation but rapture sorry

conditions like "if you believe strongly enough" are literally made to put the blame on you if your prayers don't work

@@Pandalka Yep. Personally been there too. And then you or other Christians start to blame you for having weak faith or some "unrepented" inhibiting sin that is blocking God from doing his miracle.

Justin Peters as cerebral palsy, he's a christian wh is into warning about these cashgrabbers

Wouldn't even need hospitals, these fucks would just come to your place of residence.

Nurses = human janitors

But the healing crystal peddlers - they're totally legit! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hey, at least you can get some actual use from essential oils. Okay, just one or two oils, like peppermint for repelling rats, but that's still leagues more than any faith healer.

Essential oils are far more useful. They smell amazing, and you can make candles and soaps with them that smell better than anything in the store :)

at least you can still find some use for those oils. there is absolutely no use for faith healers.

I have no problem with essential oils as sold in "health" shops. The damage is from overpriced stuff sold through MLM campaigns. MLM destroys lives.

Holt shit, you're right!

and piss off their base? these are voters we are talking about here.

Exactly.

Or mending a little brain damage

@@jjphankYou have No original thoughts of your own, got it.

I'm a double amputee, let's see them work their magic on me! 😂🤣🤦‍♂️

@@jasonsabbath6996 They won’t even come near you!

I thought you wrote scam dunk!😅

@@jjphank Get a life, you clueless christ-stain!

​@@latetodagame1892Scam drunk, from the sound of some of those incredible 'healers'!

@@latetodagame1892 Well, he is dunking on the scammers, in a way at least. Works for me!

@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 They are definitely drunk on the fruit of their scams. Horrible people.

@@jjphank You *LYING* christ-stains need to grow up, and get a grip on reality!

@@jjphankPlease, feel free to spam the thread with that nonsense. 🙄

@@jjphank the fuck are you rambling about?

I had that thought so many times as a kid growing up. "I just need to have more faith and god will finally heal me." 🙄

@@jjphank You honestly think insinuating I’m a monkey is hurtful? Grow up.

​​@@jjphanktoo long, didn't read. Dislike comment

I was a kid when my mom took me to a Benny Hinn conference. I was diagnosed with spinal muscular atrophy at 2 years old, never walked in my life, always used a wheelchair. I also have scoliosis just like the girl in the video, so of course Benny Hinn's screeners never brought us up to the stage cause they know there's no way I'd ever actually walk. But as a kid raised in a christian family, I believed all the "miracles" that they showed and had faith that one day I'd be walking too. After deconstructing and leaving christianity, it just pisses me off how they exploit and prey on people with disabilities. 🤬

@@VanessaMarieBooks I am really sorry for what you have went through. It’s really immoral for them to preach and this kind of idea and prey on those who are in need, while they can use their time and money on other options or just on other thing that make their life better.

@@jjphank 😂

@@jjphank "Benny Hinn is a fraud" As are ALL of the others!

@@jjphank ok Mr 1k+ comments

never heard of this movie but just put it on my watchlist

Great movie. I didn't like the end though 😉

​@@oliversch2183Same.

@@oliversch2183 whats wrong with the ending?

I'm not familiar, but now it's on my list of movies to check out.

Oh my god, what happened did you fall or could you walk previously?

amber- the swine also confiscate asthmatics their asthnma inhallers . and then astma sufferer dies off astma attacks.''

But SO hard to prove in a court of law.

Wow, what a heartbreak that must have been. To believe you're minutes from a miracle and told try to home.

Heartbreaking

What an appalling story. To have one's hopes raised like that, and then nothing. What a herd of charlatans they are.

I wish I could find the video or remember the title. But a few years back I watched a video a Christian missionary in the Philippines made. In the video he shows himself traveling to a remote village in the mountains, modes of transportation and how long it took him to reach the village. He goes on to say how the village is very, very poor and he is going to bring the Lord to the people. So he's in the village and the kids are wearing worn out clothes, houses are made out of bamboo and nipa, adults are wearing worn out clothes, no running water, etc,etc,etc. So he gathers the villagers around and starts preaching the word. At the end he starts to pass the hat telling the villagers God needs money to help spread his word and save souls. The village elders tell him they are a poor village and can barely feed their children, they point out the tattered clothes everyone is wearing and they have nothing to give. The missionary tells that they need to give as much as they can, what ever they give God will return 100x more. Yes, he walked off with their money and bragging how he handed out about 6 T shirts.

That’s terrible-but she wouldn’t have gotten any results anyway, but prayer can give hope and ease the strain somewhat. But ultimately it will be realized that nothing happened because there is no god to start with.

The bible even says that god is not influenced by prayer.

I’m with you. I did escape from just such a “ministry.” Glad to be free from it.

aka: religious people.

🧂

I feel nothing for those idiots tbh.

Why? If they're stupid enough to believe these disgusting charlatans then they deserve to be ripped off!

Demons are better people than these people are. 🙁

Some of them should be also charged with assault (why are they always grabbing people by and/or shoving them in the head?), and obviously all medical woo should be considered as practicing medicine without a license.

It's Blasphemy to use the Lord's name to "Heal" disabled people. And then ask others for their hard earned money so God can "reward" them for making these slimeballs richer and richer. Pure Evil

gods way.

​@@tombie8763God is pretend, stop lying.

gotta love that capitalism.

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It's too bad that few or none of the faithful will watch a channel like this.

@@alanbiker5838 Share it with them then.

Great now it is exposed for decades...where is police and courts, prisons for those people and complete suspend of possession? Nowhere and it's going happily on

Don't forget they are also tax exempt.

​@@alanbiker5838You'd be surprised...

Thank you. I needed to hear this. I really appreciate your support (both verbally and the super chat). It helps keep me going, and I could never have done this all alone without people like you.

Those people are the lowest of the low.

Any religious person who preys on another is simply a false profit. They are everywhere and no denomination of any religion is immune. The wolf lays in sheep’s clothing. That is the sad thing about it, that many people will associate the deceitful acts of a few with the whole faithful community.

Sorry you've had to experience that. That really sucks.

@@57Jimmy That's false though. This is the Christian majority. Only a small few are good people trying their best, and because of their nature the get crushed and broken in the church.

@@smokyquartz5817really? I grew up in Christian community’s and they were all like this. Now I’m suddenly disabled and all the Christians loooovvvee to pray for me consensually or not.

Well said. 👏

I am glad you recovered. 👍

God is real and He did help you so God does get the glory and thanks, if it wasn't for God you wouldn't have had those doctors you wouldn't be able to be who you are if it wasn't for God. God is good, God does help, He can do more than you can ever know, get to know Him. Jesus who is the one and only true God and Creator came to earth 2000+ years ago to go to the cross to pay our sin debt in full. His sacrifice was sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death and that true and only God is JESUS! And He did all that because He loves us and wants to save us and have a relationship with us. JESUS is the only way to Heaven, only He can save us from sin and from hell ( Luke 5:32, John 14, Romans 6:23). Jesus is waiting for you to come to Him, He won't cast you away from Himself if you come to Him. He calls us all to repentance, He loves us and wants to save us. believe and have faith in God then the Holy Spirit will come in and lead you to repent of your sins and God will forgive you of your sins and cleanse you by the blood of Jesus and you'll get born again by His Holy Spirit and have His salvation, you will become a new creation (John 3:3-19). God bless

You're current disease of not believing in Yeshuah is very dangerous than the one you had previously , this will take you to hell !!!

@@jesusfollowerswomenministries Who would win if god and superman got in a fight?

What will really happen to your mother is John 5: 28 & 29 John 5: 21 & 22 But that's up to you to believe or not . And there is no money involved And then what ? Revelation 20 : 6

Good thing there are faith healers to heal the physical sickness you felt. (Sarcasm)

Education and empathy is in short supply these days.

Yeah I got crazy legs too😂

@@jjphank Stick your kiddie fiddler of a manmade god up your fetid rump hole!

Wow-that’s a church alright.

If only the US would take a leaf from Kenya’s book on that

​@@worthythaneofross3925 b-b-b-b-but religious freedumb!!!

I would've paid gold to see that!

​@@worthythaneofross3925I'm Kenyan, and these types of scams are quite popular. There are some pastors who charge for special prayers, anointing oils and special interventions. They even have a certain limit on the amount of offerings you can give during their services lmao

I would have kept him from leaving and 'insisted' he perform his work. After all, he came such a long way, it only makes sense he show others his 'power', right? In front of live TV so EVERYONE can witness it. If they try to leave? Then label them as a fraud for the world to remember.

Unfortunately, it falls under freedom of religion. In the US, Christians get a lot of privileges not afforded to everyone else. Even these scammers, so long as they claim to be doing these things in the name of faith. Disgusting! I long for the day when we embrace a more secular, atheist society.

Doctors can trigger these in patients, without eve wanting to. I have a lingering pain in my leg, it has been there for years. I went to a doctor who prescribed me some injections...that did nothing. But he kept insisting, whether I was sure I didn't feel better...to the point I felt compelled to say I kinda did. I didn't. Part of what we see here, is probably that. The person is surrounded by a crowd, on top of someone who is very, very eager for them to play along. So the person does just that. At that point, saying they feel the same would disapppoint everyone.

@@jjphank Your god fux kiddies!

@@Nocturnaluxit’s peer pressure amplified to an exponential degree

I'm sorry that some people are absolute garbage. Unfortunately a large number of people are unable to step outside of their own little box.

@@DaveB-hg7el thanks for the empathy. i usually try not to blame people for their inability to fight their ignorance, even if it hurts my feelings, but it feels different when its against someone you care for. that still startles me. 😞

@@thomasherzog86it speaks to your self control that they weren’t immediately swallowing their teeth

I would love to see these people sent to prison for fraud.

@@godsire6217 in siberia

or re-grow a limb

or Down's syndrome, autism,schizophrenia,etc,etc.

Cancer

come on, goddammit, they are only human.

Same here. It's sad the way the faith has been polluted The true faith 🤦🏽‍♀️

That sucks so much; I'm sorry to hear what you went through. It does ask the question though... all those who are told to wait and pray, instead of getting help, how much life have these vultures taken from such people? How many lives could have had a normal experience had they been allowed to seek help, instead of living with chronic pain? It's why i cannot view faith healers as folks just doing what they believe, but an actual evil in our world.

The law in Idaho allows parents to use prayer when their children are sick and not get them proper medical help. Children have died from being denied medical help for easily treated sickness.