The Fall of Fear The Walking Dead - How The Show Ruined Its Potential 

They shouldn't have killed Travis in such a random way

When Nick died, the show died. When Madison died, every chance of forgivness for Nick's death died. I stoped watching after Nick's death. Was thinking of going back, then i heared Madison died. I never came back.

The biggest failing of the show, among many, was skipping past the early days of the outbreak. There was a lot of potential to cover the collapse of society but they just left that in the rear view mirror.

I wish we had more of FTWD’s Tobias, he knew about the outbreak and the possibility of society collapsing long before everyone else knew about it. He seemed like the kind of guy that would’ve had a conspiracy board in his bedroom.

They basically neutered all the characters. Maddison was no longer tough. Nick was no longer savvy. Strand was no longer sly. Alicia was no longer smart. They all basically had the same personality, same goals, same wet blankets. The writers just don't know how to write interesting characters

I wish they had shown, for at least 2 seasons, the literal fall of society. The paranoia, the denial, the slow collapse of a world we once knew. That was what I certainly craved as we had skipped all of it in TWD. That would have been phenomenal to have the slow, confusing and mindblowing reality of an apocalyptic world to every day people. People who never shot a gun and so they had to learn. People who were scared and didn't suddenly become badass fighters but who were human and relatable; slowly debating what the new normal is and what they're capable of and morally able to do. The irony in fear is that there isn't actually enough fear. The characters are fine with dead people eating others. No slow build up, no real terror, no trying to save neighbors in vain etc etc. Just straight to killing machines, leaving their home and everything they know. Leaving all supplies, familiarity, not staying to help others (as would be the normal human, pre apocalyptic mentality) Instead they turned from a family/community to only caring about survival and number one, all knowing how to fight and shoot, no grief for the loss of the entire world as they knew it. I could go on and on but THAT is what many of us wanted. The beginning of an actual zombie apocalypse with real people who are scared to death, who have no idea how to survive and who have to gain courage and skills in this new world.

Maddison falling into madness and becoming a villain would've been one of the best story lines over both shows damn really wish we'd seen that

I agree with everything you said. The season with Morgan and friends helping everyone was terrible. The new showrunners ruined it. Pushing Alicia to the side was a mistake. They killed John. Every other character sucks now. Strand is bad now? Really?

Nick was one of the most interesting characters I've seen in a show. Extremely flawed but very likeable. He held the whole thing together.

It's all Scott Gimple's fault. He came in at season 4 because he was forced off TWD for running that show to the ground, and he immediately tried turning season 4 of Fear into season 8 of TWD. The moment I heard him becoming new show runner I knew the show was set for failure.

Season 3 was a master piece, best season of both shows, how it shows a multi dimensional conflict in which no side is totally irrational and every important character feels layered with their own philosophies. Along with the pacing of the season it felt long but 90% of screen time moved the story along compared to the typical 50% in most twd seasons

“they just go from place to place helping people” morgan: *I have a settlement that needs your help*

They killed off their best characters the moment they got the most interesting. Travis becoming crazy after the death of his son was amazing and then dead 2 episodes later. Nick I understand because the actor wanted out of his contract so that he could pursue movies but Madison didn't want out of her contract and they still killed her for no reason whatsoever!

They panicked and thought Morgan could save the show. Morgan's exit from The Walking Dead was ridiculous. He'd just helped defeat the Saviors and he wants to leave?

Season 3: Hey this show is actually finally finding its voice Season 4: Ha no

I would have preferred that they didn't kill Nick and just had left him in limbo after the season finale where he was swept away in the waters. They could have implied he drowned and left an opening for him to have somehow survived, for a later storyline. Instead they had him survive the finale, just to be killed in a more permanent fashion that had no way of ever creating a scenario that he may have come back from. Madison though, they have left it open that she could possible return as you never actually see her die. Either way though, the death of those two characters were like nails in the coffin. The show lost direction and the writing just went downhill.

They killed off there main characters too soon.

I hate how they decided to kill literally everyone from season 1 for no reason. There was no reason to kill travis, nick, and that one guy who used to be an asshole and died at the dam

Losing the main cast of the show really ruined it for me, I feel like Travis, Ofelia, Nick and Madison left the show way too soon

I just want a zombie show that shows the technical and logistical aspects of how the world collapsed for once. L4D and TWD are my two favorite zombie medias of all time so I'd crave anything from those universes that explains why the military fell so quickly (In TWD its because theyre dumb but in L4D the military/government is in the active process of falling, since they abandoned every state east of the Mississippi River because of the powerful zombies, however I'd still like for Valve to make a movie, tv-show, or another game that shows the events of the downfall as it happened, rather than just showing the aftermath like TWD)

Fear died so that the original series could live. Gimple ruins everything he touches. they should have just given him a brand new twd series that he could make from the ground up so his shit doesn't spread to already established shows

I just pretend there's only 3 seasons of this show. Erickson is a genius.

The biggest mistake was not focusing on the early days of the outbreak

They should have just made Fear a 5-7 season show about Madison and family. Morgan should have just been given a separate Walking Dead spin-off.

Watching season 5 was like watching Tara's episode but this time for a entire season

The true main character was Nick and I guess the writers failed to see that it was nice to see a Morgan and Dwight but honestly after Nick died the show went WAY down hill

I watched a few episodes with my brother. All I could think was "this woman (the mother) single-handedly causes every problem the group faces." She's an Apocalypse-Karen!

I thought Troy’s character was pretty interesting. You know, the human experiment thing he was doing and how he gathered so much insight about the virus and how it behaves by murdering people. I gotta say those scenes were not even half as eerie and disturbing as similar scenes of terror and gore in TWD but it brought us viewers some curious details like BMI linking to time of revival, the force field of dead acting as a repellent. I wanna see them explore that aspect more as well as finally seeing how the outbreak started. (Hint, alien spores)

They should have never done a timejump. If they want to crossover someone, it should have been Abraham and Eugene

At its heart, the problem was that they transitioned the show from being about the Clark family to Morgan. Killing Nick was horrific and then offing Madison was unforgivable.....

They could have done so much with Travis, he was the one who brought moral to the story and his change between dealing with the life in the apocalypse was nearly perfect. You could see he was changing from morality to brutality (much like Rick) . And then they killed him off

I remember seeing something when FTWD was coming out that it would be focusing on the downfall of society, not on the actual end of society like TWD. I think they moved too fast, and just like everyone else I don't think Morgan should have been put into FTWD. I really enjoyed Seasons 1-3.

Season 3 was amazing. I was so mad when they killed Troy. He was the best character on the entire show. And then season 4 sucked, I hated how they skipped ahead.

Dave Erickson: season three of FTWD was amazing. The show is finally getting its footing, and, it is on its way to bigger and better things. Scott Gimple: Hold my beer.

See I actually really enjoyed the slow burn of season one because every moment I was wondering when the walkers would make themselves known on a wide scale. And I found some of the moments in season 1 - the school and then the attack by the walker neighbours nail biting. And the scene with the “sick” boyfriend and his parents house with the car left in the driveway stuck with me. Because you don’t know what happened to the parents but you have a pretty good idea.

Your synopsis of the new characters added in season 4 was hilarious, and quite spot on with charlie. The fact that anyone thought killing off Nick and trying to make Charlie likeable/redeemable was actually going to work still boggles my mind. And yes, John Dorey was too good for the show.

Can Season 6 sink any lower? Yes, dont underestimate the genius of the Gimp

Season 6 opening Morgan: These walkers live in horrible conditions, many of them are walking around in tattered rags no protection from the harsh elements. Even worse many are literally falling apart. For just the price of a cup of coffee you can sponsor one of these poor unfortunate souls. I’m Morgan Jones and the best way to “clear” your conscience is by sponsoring a walker today. You know you’re supposed to, because everything gets a return.

4 season survivor and walker here...got to see alot of BTS and reasons why the story played out the way it did. All in all the horror of the show didn't compare to what we had to go through in real life to make it happen. So many fell to heat exhaustion for little pay being treated like sub humans even though we had been there for years even outlasted alot of crew. That said it was a hard show to make. Props to my Fear Family that lasted as long as they did.

Nick was like The Joker of FTWD. Completely unpredictable but sensible as well.

The biggest missed opportunity? Fast forwarding through the early outbreak. THAT was the MAIN reason I was excited about this spinoff. Also: - Killing Travis was a huge mistake - I hated Madison. I’m sorry I dropped out before getting to see her die. - I dropped out before Nick died, but I think that was a big mistake. - I had ZERO interest in having Morgan join the show. His character had turned into absolute garbage well before he left TWD.

"FTWD is dead and like one of its walkers, it's now wandering around aimlessly and needs to be put out of its misery..." When you're right... you're right !!!!!!

Imagine if the fall of civilization was stretched to the first two seasons, and season 1 focused on several different groups across different regions, all handling the initial outbreak, with the show slowly showing us how ALL of their paths cross by seasons 4-5. We could've seen the fall in many different perspectives, something fans have been craving since The Walking Dead first aired, along with potentially a military and government perspective showing us how they fell.

The episode where Shane and Lori watch a city get forebombed did more to show the collapse of society than the entirety of the show, and I STILL love FTWD.

Nick died because the actor wanted his character killed off so he can leave the show. It sucks that such a good character had to go.

I adore the first 3 seasons. I genuinely would take them over the main show. I just can't believe how hard it fell in season 4. I've never seen a show drop quality that fast and to that extent. Love your videos man.

"Sorry Nick, this is my show now." - Morgan 'No-violence' Jones, 2018

This video is spot on the only thing you don't mention is the reason Frank Dillane ( Nick ) was killed was because he asked to be killed off the show BUT if you read through his interviews he says being he's from Europe and he's home sick but he also continues to mention the change of direction in the show so my theory where I agree with you is that he was pissed off with the change of direction and him being the main character with Madison we're getting bumped down to Morgan now being the main character and he took offense to that and asked to be killed off the show . Also the character Madison was killed and in her interviews she says it shocked her when she found out and she thought she would ride the show out till the end. I just did did a FTWD rewatch of the first 3 seasons and finished the finale for sea3 last night and I think all 3 seasons are terrific . They watch so much better binge wise then they did week to week . I agree season 3 was INCREDIBLE . Everything about it and we get these awesome characters like Troy and you didn't even mention Taka and Crazy dog . They were terrific too also proctor and if you remember even after Madison hit Troy twice with the hammer and the water started filling in . Fans were still on the boards hoping he survived somehow . My final point Scott gimple ruined this awesome show

If the writers and amc really wanted to do a crossover, why didn’t they crossover Abraham, Eugene, and Rosita. They could’ve kept the timeline more close to the end of season 3 and the Fear group would meet Abraham and gang as they’re on there way to DC (before they met Glenn) and this would have been way more better for the show, and we’d learn more about Abraham, Eugene, and Rosita a little bit more. This would also make sense to use these characters, because they came from Texas and that area. This would’ve made a lot more sense and later on if this crossover didn’t pay off then they would have the shows split apart again, as obviously they’d have to get rid of them to match the timeline to season 4 of TWD. But if it did payoff, then at the right moment, then do another appropriate crossover at an appropriate and better time. Btw I like the video and content, keep it up, stay safe.

I think the saddest thing is that AMC is releasing ANOTHER spin off.

I Fell off Fear the Walking Dead when the Dad got killed off. The relationships between the family was my biggest drawing point, and if their just gonna start killing them off I didn't have any interest in the show. Glad I didn't watch them kill the other 2 off as well. Jeez, what a way to kill a show.

‘Fear the Walking Dead’ is an entirely different show after Season 3, and intentionally so. I actually believe that Scott Gimple approaches ‘Fear the Walking Dead’ as a comedic version of ‘The Walking Dead’. Why he thinks anybody wanted that or that his writers are clever enough to be funny is beyond me.

I really with they got rid of scott gimple before season 7 , I can only imagine how great the Negan arc would've been. Carl wold still be alive and who knows, maybe Andrew Lincoln would still be in the show. Also fear probably would still be pretty decent without that stupid clown gimple

Pitch Meeting: We're gonna make a show that goes into detail about the early stages of the outbreak, which everyone wants to see. Then barely spend any time on the initial stages and make family friendly TWD (Season 5)

For season 4 I didn’t even notice Madison wasn’t in the present I realized it after they showed her death that’s how bad that season was that I didn’t even notice a main character was missing because I was not invested in this season at all

I remember really like this show when it first started, the whole family dynamic was great and seeing them go through it from the start. It looked like Chris had the makings of turning into a psycho and they just randomly killed him off camera. I remember missing a number of episodes and coming back to find Travis, Nick and just the whole season 1 cast was dead (say for Alicia, Victor and Daniel). I mean it felt like I got up to go get a snack and when I came back the whole cast is dead 🤦‍♂ They added a lot of great character and are even bring back Madison, but sadly the actor playing Alicia left before they could reunite. Still, it feels a bit too little to late.

I stopped watching after the mid-season of Season 4,i lost interest,because,it turned into a Morgan spin off,it should've stayed a show focused on the Clarks,also Nick and Madison dying didn't help to keep my interest.

Scott Gimple is a scourge on TWD universe. I’ll never forgive them for killing Maddison in such a disappointing and stupid way.

Not surprising that this happened. Given with what amc did to Frank Darabont, things can only get worse for the world of twd.

Everything you've said here is spot on. The show nearly lost me at the start as I was hoping to learn more about the outbreak and fall of civilisation. It would've been interesting if the main characters had been a soldier and a doctor for example, giving us some insight into how everything unfolded. Instead, after 2-3 episodes of increasing zombie incidents and confusion, it pretty much just flashed forward to the same world that Rick wakes up to. However, I stuck it out and I agree that Season 3 was fantastic. However, I only got about 4-5 episodes into Season 4 and never went back.

They should've been the whisperers. It was kinda teased with nick always hanging out with walkers

Morgan should've had his own spin-off series with John Dorie, June, and Althea (and every other character that followed up after, so Jim, Sarah, Wendell, Clayton, Logan). FTWD should've continued on focusing on the Clark family + Daniel, Strand, Luciana, and Taqa. Nick should've been the one leading the horde inside the baseball stadium since he had to die (the actor wanted to leave the show). Madison should've gone on to lead the group and grow as a strong leader. Dwight could've been introduced in FTWD or the Morgan spin-off since it makes sense for him to go wherever. He could even appear on both because he will follow his wife throughout the entire country. This show totally ruined its potential by killing off Madison and Nick. Their deaths didn't even seem to have a huge impact on the other characters and it's downright stupid.

Ah yes, my favorite spin-off show with 3 seasons and only 3 seasons. And John Dory really was too nice for the show he got stuck with lol

6:30 I understand your thinking, but FTWD was supposed to show the beginning of the outbreak. It would defeat the purpose, if they skipped past everything, even though we all had an idea of what was going to happen.

The show ended after the explosion, I stand by this and its canon.

When Morgan Jones crossed over the show plummeted. You cant have a passive person as leader during end of the world.

I could see why some people weren’t too fond of the direction the earlier seasons went, becoming a spin off rather than truly exploring the first days/weeks of the apocalypse and the effects it had on its environment/people but at least (to me) season 1-3 was a solid and enjoyable experience and the setting in Mexico during the 2-3 season gave a fresh new perspective for the walking dead universe. New people, new behaviours/attitudes, new events. That being said, season 4’s time jump and change in setting was in my opinion one of the shows biggest mistakes. Things became a lot more predictable and cliche’d and just plain stupid. Scott gimple basically just got a hard on for having a spaghetti western esque zombie show and changed everything to achieve that with the addition to shoe in Morgan.

random kid: shows up also random kid: shoots and kills main character

I think they should have offered Frank Dillane (Nick) the opportunity to appear in the movie with Rick. Also Madison should have never died.

34 minute long Predatoure videos are the only thing keeping me sane in quarantine

Nick was my favorite too! That one scene when he was cool strolling through the zombies…loved it!

and then, there was season six...

FTWD lost me with one line: "9 days later" when Chris mused about the time spend in Quarantine. The only thing I really wanted to see a show tackling a believable take on how society would collapse in an outbreak slow zombies, but we aren't shown that. Probably because the writers had now clue how to make that a believable story to tell - so they just skipped it. After they skipped in what I was interested in the first place, I stopped caring.

I really was disappointed by FTWD, it had everything going for it by not being afraid of showing way more gore but I gave up at the end of season 3...

Brilliant review of the series! Explained very well. I have tons of complaints about FTWD, but I didn't realize what happened with the posters - Thank You! Yes, what happened with the ratings of Season 4 episode 1 is how Gimple operated with TWD, too, taking advantage of the hard work others have done - lots of people watched S4 E01due to being so satisfied with Season 3 (along with the SuperBowl) and in TWD, viewers got heavily invested in the story & characters in Season 1 thanks to Frank Darabont, then Gimple and others took advantage of all the hard work he did, when they fired him for being upset that they were not doing their jobs properly. If only more actors, other than just one, would have protested when Darabont was unjustly fired in the very beginning and had Gimple's group of a-holes removed, imagine how amazing the franchise would be! The Science Fiction & Horror genres would have a better reputation and viewers would have quality shows to watch. When Darabont was in charge, the story engaged us and made us use our brains to think, but the storytelling from all the shows now is nitwitted, braindead, and humiliating for everyone.

I feel like they could've done a whole lot more with the fall of La and the fall of society in general.

Season 2 and 3 are amazing. Why couldn't we follow the badass group lead by Madison...

It is so sad to see a once fantastic show get turned into crap. I loved Fear (season 1-3) for what is was. After that, it is no longer the same show. The way I look at it is, season three of FTWD ended on an amazing series ending cliffhanger. Thank you for another awesome video. I appreciate all the hard work that you do for us 😎😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍

Honestly if they kept going with their main characters a bit longer this show would of been a smash hit.

Hello! I've watched before, but this video got me thinking, what would *I* do if I'd handed the reigns for Fear. I personally think their main problem was having a screwy timeline in the first place. The timeline of the actual fall doesn't make enough sense for it to work pacing-wise. *But,* if I had been told to write the pilot, this would be my pitch: We open on a family, (either the Clarke’s, or following the Morales family would be a cool tie-in with my ending), and they get a call saying that their grandfather has had a heart attack. We follow them rushing to the hospital, saying bye, to grandpa, etc. Grandpa flatlines and dies, and the family tearfully starts to leave, but then they hear stirring behind them. They turn around and see Grandpa moving and twitching. He’s still flatlined, so they stare, confused and horrified. He gives a final twitch and his bloodshot eyes open as the granddaughter says “Grandpa?” *Cut to title card* The rest of the first season follows the family trying to wrap their heads around what the hell happened, and the cases of dead people coming back and behaving oddly popping up over the country. The first season ends with the president making a speech to the country about “grave times ahead” and putting the country on a national lockdown. Season 2 (there’d only be 2 seasons) follows the family dealing with being quarantined. (yeah yeah I know it hits too close I promise we don’t stay in quarantine) They’re locked down and desperate for answers and news from the outside, which is being denied to them. The midseason finale is them getting ahold of the quarantine-zone doctor and threatening them for information. (Perhaps Madison’s role if we keep the Clarkes?) The doctor reveals what we as viewers know--that the dead are coming back to life and eating people. The second half of season 2 follows the world being unable to cope with the pandemic and falling apart. Our main family watches the cities be bombed, quarantine zones be abandoned, etc. The family and other side characters flee and form a settlement outside of the city, much like Rick’s group at the quarry. The series finale is some of the group members wandering around, looking for supplies. They come across the hospital where Rick is. The final shot is a zoom-in on the hospital, zooming through the destroyed hospital and all the way into black...and with a jolt Officer Rick Grimes wakes from his coma.

You nailed it. Every single thought I had you said. Gimple is a murderer.

The way I took the marketing and what made me excited for the show was seeing the decline of society at the beginning of the outbreak. When in season 2, they practically abandoned that idea: it was so disappointing. Those episodes with the soldiers in season 1 were amazing because I wanted to know why and how the military/government collapsed. I wanted to see how people rationalised and dealt with the outbreak before it completely destroyed society. Instead it just was one disappointment to the next. I stuck around only for John but gave up with this current season and didn't bother because it just adopted all the tropes and boring storylines of the main series. It took what made it unique: this is the beginning of the outbreak and threw it out the window.

You are pretty much spot on with all of this. I was a staunch defender of Fear the Walking Dead since it started. It wasn't great but the show slowly gained its footing and, as you say, felt fairly accomplished after season 3. I was actually pretty excited by the news that Morgan was going to join FTWD since he was probably my favorite character on TWD at that time. And I thought season 4 of FTWD was actually decent. The crossover mostly worked (for me) from a story perspective and I admired AMC's attempt at creating a cohesive Walking Dead extended TV universe. But season 5 of FTWD was utter trash. Honestly, one of the worst and most misguided seasons of TV I've ever sat through. Most shows that bad I would never stick with, but as a fan of the show since it's first season I wanted to see it through. And, unfortunately, the show has never recovered and has been aimless claptrap ever since. It's too bad because, as I said, I thought AMC's attempt at creating a TWD TV universe was a worthwhile goal if done right. It's too bad that AMC has completely fumbled everything with their TWD universe. The main show is not good and hasn't been for awhile, while FTWD and the new World Beyond show are truly awful. Makes me wonder whether a successful TWD extended TV universe is even possible? My answer to that is that with the right creative team it is definitely possible. And more importantly, IT'S STILL NOT TOO LATE! Unfortunately, AMC clearly has no clue as how to make these shows interesting. I think going forward that season 5 of FTWD can probably be studied in film schools as a prime example of what NOT to do when developing a TV show.

what pissed me off was when they changed the intro to some kind of happy tune the original intro actually made jump and get ready to see some violence.

Madison was by the far the best character. They spent three seasons building up her character, and the third season was brilliant - easily the best in the series. Then they basically killed her off screen and the show took a huge change in tone. The family the show was based on are all dead apart from Alicia, and they introduced a bunch of boring main characters and villains. Madison and Troy made season three, and they just got rid of them so they could make TWD-lite.

I think it would be awesome if Virginia's group gets killed off by the Proctors within the first few episodes. Then, it could be revealed that the Proctors have been holding Madison hostage this whole time. Shortly after that, Crazy Dog, Walker, Pickaxe Lady, and Tobias could resurface, and save the day. That, imo, would be a great way to get Fear back on the right track.

I remember the years of 2011 and 2012, damm Game Of Thrones, Walking Dead and Breaking Bad was the best thing you could watch, what an amazing years. I never understood how they could kill this show so badly

great video! great points, very articulate, and engaging pacing! keep up the good work!

The show is clearly a victim of a lighter and softer retool. Season 3, was even better than the mainland show imo. Then season 4 happened 😭😔😭😔

Season 4 is as confusing as the SAW movies, flashbacks in flashbacks.

Season 6 : "Hold my beer" .

I loved the Clark family, and thier overall arc from season 1 to season 3. Because we see how they go from your average day people on the early onset of the apocalypse, and then adapting throughout the next parts of it. We see them travel from LA to Mexico and Texas encountering different cultures and people as they go. It made TWD universe quiet grounded, as there characters were quiet relatable. They weren't cops or survivalist types like Rick, Shane or Abraham. And if the story angle was that they'd eventually become the Whisperer's and eventually crossover with Ricks group, that would've been awesome too! Because the hints were there, Nick was already "walking with the dead" and immersed in communities that had a different outlook on Walkers and the overall apocalypse. Travis went from a mild mannered father and husband, to utter beast mode, beating men to death with his bare hands (avenging his son) and taking out a herd in a fighting pit (hinting at probably becoming a Beta like figure). Madison had strong maternal instincts and would do anything to protect her kids. It wouldn't be hard to picture her character becoming Alpha and a ruthless leader. And in a way this transformation / arc would be justified, because when good people are constantly faced with life and death, tragedy, loss and fear, they don't always end up like Rick or the Alexandrians. And Madison's family endured and seen so much, FTWD could've been the breaking bad of the walking dead.

Seeing as the actor of Nick wanted to leave I can understand why they killed him off but the way they did it and the timing were just ridiculous and stupid. Killing Madison in the same Season? Why? What was the idea behind that? I will never understand ... But what I get even less is why push Alicia's characters to the side after doing it? This show was about her family and watching her deal with the loss and being the only one left could have been a really interesting storyline, and the next logical step would have been to push her to be the main character. I would have loved to see her maybe go down a dark path killing charlie and just going into full survivor mode. Morgan could have been incorporated into this so well since he went down a dark path after losing his son. I think what many people don't seem to know is that a big chunk of fear-twd watchers are Alycia Debnam-Carey Fans and making her the main focus of the show could possibly attract even more of her fans to watch the show. I've stopped watching after season 4 but the few chunks i saw of season 5 were horrible and boring. At this point, I'm just praying for the show to get canceled.

TWD got better after Gimple left, FTWD got worse when Gimple took over

Good video man and i agree with everything you said almost like what i was thinking myself. Sad about how Fear turned out after season 3 it was a rolldercoasted for a while there but they had to go and ruin it lol

Kirkman’s stubbornness over not exploring the onset of the start or anything about the wildfire virus has gotten old. I hope they keep straying from his vision in that way

FTWD went to shit after the third season. They shouldn't have killed off Madison and Nick. The gap in story line between the dam rupture in Tijuana and then all of a sudden, next season they are in Texas.

Madison was Rick of FTWD, replacing her with Morgan(who I’ve always found to be boring) was a mistake. The Clark family was the essence of the show plus the original characters. The new characters were not that interesting either, except for John Dorie.

Fatal error of this show in my opinion in a sentence: Nick died, Alicia lived.

I liked the show when Morgan came on but very disappointed when they killed off John who was my favorite character with his 6 gun and cowboy hat.