The Fall of Hasbro's Marvel Legends 

I definitely agree with you Tony. The fact that they're raising the prices to $24.99 this year made me quit the line due to lack of access and stands

One of the worst sounds I hear when I'm at my desk... My Marvel Legends figures randomly falling from the shelf like bowling pins. Buying third party stands is an irritating necessity.

I've been buying ML figures for years, but I'm slowing down due to this crazy price increase

As someone who has a few of these Marvel Legends in my collection, I completely agree that they are a pain in the arse for falling over constantly. Even my NECA figures which are notorious for dodgy QC fall over less. It's also really annoying that the foot pegs on Legends are different sizes.

I'm surprised that Hasbro hasn't started selling their own first party figure stand packs like NECA just to nickle and dime its customers more. Thats why I am excited for the Valaverse stands. The fact that they already include some of the best figure stands around with each figure puts them even farther ahead of Hasbro

McFarlane includes figure stands with all their DC superhero figures that are licensed from Warner Bros. True, McFarlane usually doesn't include stuff like extra hands, blast effects, etc., but realistically how much of that stuff can you display with the figure? Those extras are great for doing Instagram photos, but then they get stored in a bin or baggie somewhere. I'd rather have a figure stand first, then cost out what else to include. Or do like Valaverse and include everything. One easy solution that Hasbro will never do is eliminate that damned build figure concept. The larger sized figures WILL sell on their own in a collector driven market as proven by the Hydra Stomper, MODOK, Kingpin, various Hulks, etc. They need to stop forcing 6 or 7 figures into a wave, with 2 or 3 figures being duds that rely on the build figure piece to sell them. Smaller waves with better character choices, larger figures sold separately, include stands for all. Problems solved all around. Of course, even figure stands wouldn't save the Eternals wave.

I like how the Has-bros say "well, you can buy your own stands for a few cents if it's that important," which makes their exclusion from a $25 action figure even more pathetic on Hasbro's part.

The big problem is when you speak truth against marvel legends and hasbro… the collectors of those products get personally offended on hasbro’s behalf… however videos like these really show how much hasbro is cutting corners and bringing the value of their product below an acceptable value…. I would rather display a 1992 toy biz gambit than a legends one….

Another absolutely top drawer video mate. "Biased" or not, you have not just said it, you've shown it and PROVED it. Straight talk, right here. Thanks for sharing mate.

I've been a collector of Marvel Legends for 10 years and I've never felt that I needed display stands for my figures. Even on the given occasions where stands were included, I would just store them away and never used them. Stands take up more foot space and can take away from creative displaying. I often use my figures for ACBA anyways, and that doesn't require any stands with the exception of an occasional flight stand here and there. I have no need for stands, but that being said... asking for a display stand at the $26 price range isnt asking much. It's reasonable. But even with more accessories and a display stand, $26 is getting pretty steep even for a committed collector like myself.

You make some good points but... I think the bigger problem is that "adult collector" figures are just statues with some articulation. Give me something like a MotU Origins over Marvel Legends, Gi Joe Classified, or Valaverse any day because that's a toy that actually feels like it was meant to be played with. MotU origins all have at least one accessory and a minicomic and look great displayed but they are also undeniably toys that make you just want to take them off the shelf and play with them. My other issue with "adult collector" lines is the lack of vehicles and playsets. No toy line is really complete without a vehicle or two and maybe a big playset. I know that you have a bunch of vehicles for your classified figures but those are third party and I know you either paid a lot for those or got a really good deal on them.... the most that Hasbro is doing is a couple of motorcycles and so many other companies don't even go that far. Anyway, yes I'm being negative so maybe I need to go watch some Pixel Dan (lol) to recharge my positivity. Looking forward to your next vid.

As a massive Marvel Legends fan, I can agree with the statement regarding display stands.

Finished watching your vid. Ha ha! Loved that sign off. You are a no nonsense kind of guy. I like that. I hate how a lot of these reviewers will complain but as soon as they are talking to hasbro all they do is say "great job" we need more like you to stand up for the community.

As a child, I loved it when Hasbro made figure stands for GI Joe. I always displayed my figures in action poses or dioramas I made to tell a story. In the 90's, Hasbro started including stands with every figure on a sprue with extra weapons. Though most of these were neon colors, I treasured the black, grey, brown and earth tone stands. Great video, Tony, with great simply logical thinking.

I wish I could chalk this up as being too negative, but no, mate, you’re completely right. Part of the reason I only collect Transformers from Hasbro is because of how hard it is to display their 6-inch scale figures.

100% agree with you imo they should start improving with joints such as ball jointed ab-crunch and pin-less joints. And I’m tired of hearing “it’s a toy line, it’s meant for kids” if it’s meant for kids why is it 25 dollars?! You think kids can easily get 25 from their parents? 4 figures are over 100 dollars including taxes😬 I didn’t question hasbro before when it costed 20 dollars but now I’m actually demanding for improvement🤬😡 Edit: another point, y’all think kids can afford a sentinel or Galactus?

Well said, Tony. Lack of figure stands has made my displays like setting up dominos.

I think you just said the root of the problem: Disney. We already know they're greedy. If you want cheaper ML and SW figures, get Disney to lighten up. ... but you made a good argument about manufacturing cost advancements canceling out the offset ...

Well said, Tony. I doubt that figure stands would cost Hasbro more than 40 cents of material. The fact that they do not even bother is a symptom of a larger problem - A complete lack of interest in providing real value to their customers.

@Analog Toys I think Marvel Legends need to consider what they can offer us if they are going to raise prices. Look at the amount of hands and accessories we get with Action Force for $30/£30 price range, and Legends are starting to creep towards that price, but without a real increase in quality.

Is it safe to say that any argument Hasbro has against providing figure stands is baseless?

I've never liked display stands or used them. It makes the figures feel more separated on the shelf and starts to make them feel a bit more like statues to me. It can also limit how close I can have the figures standing to each other. Display stands always end up in a box never to be used at mine.

I was planning on collecting a couple of these for the purpose of taking them apart/painting for customs anyhow, any advice/precautions as I have a few Macfarlane figures, and they came with display stands which is really convenient

Totally agreed with you Tony as I started collecting the 6 inch black series and its a pain with no stands as they fall over

I've barely got into this line this year and yeah you made up great points. Especially the house of cards metaphor, the frustration is real. Great video.

They are a little expensive but I use "ProTech AFS-2C Clear Action Figure Stands for Vintage 3.75" Star Wars Figures, 2" Wide, 1/8" Peg, 100-Pack" from amazon for my Marvel Legends. I agree with you though, they should include something for the price point.

The price hikes & continued release of wave after wave have made it difficult to collect them in the last year or two. I loved the new Deluxe figs like the Stomper but when I seen they were both over $50, I left them both. That’s not even mentioning the point of this video.

Agreed Tony. I currently use clear acrylic disks and Fun-Tak to stand/pose the unstable figures in my collection. I'd like to see Valaverse create a set of "Space Force" themed figures to better fit into my collection interests. Great video BTW!

I dont mind the cost increase if it felt like you were getting more for it.

I agree that the Action Force figure stand is the best.

Hey, I hope Hasbro never sells stands, that’s like 90% of my Etsy sales lol

You have some great points. I've been a long time Marvel comic collector so that alone makes me a costumer for life, but with that said. I've recently become way more picky about the Marvel Legends I buy. The new 20th anniversary Hulk and retro Rhino really makes me think Hasbro is using the secondary market prices for the older figures determine what their prices will be for these new updated figures 🤔

Dc multiverse is supplying stands and they are still 19.99 they don't have many accessories but even they recognize the importance of consistent peg hole size and a universal stand

Totally agree. My collection scares the shit out of me when half of it falls from the shelf in the middle of the night.

im surprised sort of that this is a big problem, i ONLY collect 4" figures but i cant stand figure stands and dont like using them in my displays.

The whole reason hasbro is rising the price of figures is not based on better plastic or more features, it's because plastics are getting more costly due to oil price and so if they added more for the money, then it would be selling it at the same value as they are now with less items.

A unique and insightful take that I haven’t heard a thousand times in the community, who would’ve thunk it? Seriously though really great video, it’s the reason I started to buy Tamashi nations stands, especially for flying characters.

It’s so strange I remember growing up and buying the Star Wars saga legends 3in figures and every single one of them came with a figure stand each one with the characters name on it not to mention every figure came with a bag of weapons. This was the basic 3in line that sold for under $10 but now I pay 25 for a Black series figure I’m lucky with if it comes with more then a single accessory

Tony, I know these should have stands , but if you want to get quick easy to get stands I go to the hardware store buy huge washers and use that tacky putty they use for poster’s. I have every one of my 500+ 3.75 Star Wars figures! I love them because they have a little weight

At very least, Hasbro could sell packs of peg stands. They already have the molds since they briefly included them a few years back.

Excellent video, Tony! Hopefully they will correct this problem eventually and issue newer figures with stands, but I'm not holding my breath on it. Getting Hasbro to change course on anything is tough, as they often seem to not pay attention to the voices of their consumers.

I agree. I never thought of this due to the fact i keep the few figures I own displayed in the packaging.

Anthonyscustoms talked about the price hike and the lack of paint. It's ridiculous the effort they put is close to none for the price range. I think the end of Marvel Legends is near. Macfrarlane toys coming in first year being best selling toy line just proves it. I am worried for action figure industry in general.

I cant say I agree but I think it depends on the collector. I much prefer seeing marvel legends come with a good amount of accessories for posing options rather than a display stand. Their display stands they did in the past were terrible so I'm sure they could improve on it but it's extra plastic in the packaging which could be used for something better. As long as you're careful, getting them to stand is not hard. Plus, having action figures fall over sometimes is all part of the collecting process, it just happens. I also think complaining about a lack of pinless joints is a bit silly as they are currently implementing that. They have been pretty slow with doing the pinless tech but I never personally thought it was necessary for an action figure line. I also think the reason legends and star wars figures and always going to be more expensive is for the simple reason that they are the much more popular characters. The Action Force/Valaverse line are already more expensive figures, even with the price increase from Hasbro so I'd rather have each individual figure be cheaper. This is all my opinion of course and I dont want to just sound like some Hasbro fan boy as they are far from perfect lol

It would be nice if Hasbro Marvel Legends came with some kind of stand.

Great video and a very interesting perspective that I've not encountered before when it comes to display stands! Which is crazy looking at the comments. Can't say I've ever had any major issues displaying my Legends. Other than some of them in heels of course! I find slightly dynamic poses and making full use of ankle rockers enough to keep all of mine upright and dodge the domino effect! Having my shelving bolted to the wall helps, it sits opposite my squat rack / deadlift platform - even with weights hitting the floor regularly there's hardly any casualties from the display 😅

Great video Tony. It seems incredible that none of the decision makers at Hasbro can’t see what you’ve pointed out.

once or. twice a week I can guarantee when I come to work there will be a figure laying on my desk! Good video!

The original Toybiz Marvel Legends all came with a display base, almost like a mini diorama (AND a reprint comic book issue). Soon after Hasbro bought them out, I had to opportunity to go to SDCC and ask the panel whether figure bases would ever return. Their answer back then was that they had no plans to make bases again, since the build-a-figure concept was so "popular" (read: profitable).

You’re not lying about stuff falling over. Heard some stuff fall last night in my display. First thing I have to do now when I get off work is go see what it was. Im not excited.

ON POINT. Plus Hasbro makes money on everything else they have their label slapped on, as opposed to Valaverse. I found myself listing more and more Legends figures for sale. Waiting for the eventual release of a few figures from Marvel Legends, then I'm out. I'd rather support smaller companies that truly put out stuff, "for the fans".

I made my own with wood planks with 3mm plastic welding sprue glued in. After market stands were prohibitively expensive. also i drilled the pegs out to 3MM across the collection.

hey the army style figure whats it called i cant find it? the one with the bone mask. NVM i found it.

just came in freezing cold and here is analog toys to greet me awsome

Gotta admit, I was expecting a completely different kind of video when I clicked on this, but I actually completely agree with you on most of this. I'm not going to stop buying them, but you're still right.

What stand was u using for the stomper?!

Guy, they were OVER PRICED at 19.99. What Hasbro is doing is called Price Gouging. There is NO OTHER reason for these most recent Price Bumps, with more to come for a variety of reasons. I agree about the stands. The MAJORITY of my collection is on my son's dresser and YES! they topple all the time and it's very frustrating. I am pretty much OUT of Collecting Marvel Legends line, Not interested in the Black Series (want my Death Star Gunner darnit) and will most likely OPT OUT of the Classifieds line as well.

Where'd you get the plastic display stand?

Will marvel legends still be sold on Amazon and will amazon restock them

So many figures I have and so few stands. Totally agree! Also I was not aware until now there is a Madam Hydra (Viper) ML figure so I'm very happy about that!!!

Very well thought out video that in my opinion is very difficult to disagree with

I just bought the stands on Hasbro Pulse but you’re 100% correct: the figures should come with stands. I shouldn’t have to make an extra purchase. Also, multiple hands should be standard on Hasbro. No question.

Hi, Star Wars collector here . I will have to buy the stands separately because our figures don't bring stands either . Hasbro seemed to decide that none of us get stands

While I agree the prices have gotten too high for not including stands and more accessories, I’ve never had a major issue standing them up without a stand. I find putting them in a solid pose and using their articulation to balance them is enough. You could have a figure in a straight upright position, but without using the articulation in their ankles correctly, they will undoubtedly fall over. I’m definitely not letting Hasbro off the hook, Stands could be awesome, just in my personal experience, I’ve not had too much of an issue.

Hi Tony I don't think you being negative at all only expressing your point and I appreciate honesty.That way I know what is worth buying thanks.

I watch both of you Pixel Dan and You, all of you are original characters, just 2 different opinions, that's why the world is round. Honest opinion always matters

Consider that most 6 inch figures are put on display it would be logical to have them with display stands and if hasbro what to make more money selling display stands separately good luck someone will have got there first

Absolutely on point as usual Tony 👍🏻

What's really sad is that Hasbro did tool a stand for their Legends figures and included them with one of the waves of the blister styled package releases (Wave 3 I think but I could be wrong) and then dropped them the next wave. The stand was nice too, capable of interlinking with multiples of itself. They really should bring it back.

It's weird how I have dozens of figures on several bookshelves and I have never slammed into the bookshelves and knocked everything over. Edit: btw I don't disagree that stands should be included with the figures, but your example of how "easy" it is to knock them over is a bit silly. Like... of course they'll fall over when you do that. Figures will fall over sometimes. It happens. The key thing is to figure out the best way to pose them. Also flight stands are great for more exciting (or just flying) poses.

Great point! And also for me it's the inconsistent quality. The opposite colored pegs, lack of hands, etc. Some great figs and a lot of blah figs.

Right on, Tony. I used to collect the Star Wars Black Series. I eventually gave up - too goddamn hard to find and they kept falling over. They're all in a box in the closet now. I just display the vintage stuff.

I'm a MASSIVE fan of the line....been since it debut back in the Toybiz days. So you may think I'm gonna troll you, but my friend....you make very solid points. I think my main fandom is comics, particularly Marvel comics (I'm in your camp when I say I only buy comic based - I'm even more specific in that I only pick up CLASSIC comic based....mostly....but that's still an awful lot of figures - I range between 60's - early to mind 90's)....I love this stuff mostly because my dad raised me on those old before my time books and it just stuck. But as AMAZING as the figures are today, my God are they, yeah the price is becoming outrageous. And when you consider that the old Toybiz line became with diorama stands AND a comic (and sure I get inflation but still)....there are just some figures I feel jippped out on. But they know people like me, if they play to nostalgia enough, can't resist buying anyway. And the figure USUALLY delivers too, so it makes you forget....wait...did I just basically get ripped off and I'm yet okay with it? It's like they've done the mental math on nostalgia and how it works. But finally I started to recognize it myself, you're spot on. We deserve display stands! ESPECIALLY when you consider how acrobatic and dynamic MOST superheroes and villains are in comics.

I for one am actually over the Legends line. They have to much wasted peg space and its never full. I couldn’t see spending the money at a $22 price point, little lone the $24 price point and still get provided the same shit. I am not really a big Marvel/DC character collector to begin with, but when Valaverse came out with their line, it was clearly a no brainer. Take my money!

I own just 2 Marvel Legends so hardly a collector. But, I routinely enjoy watching youtube reviews - IMO recent figures such as Hammerhead look pretty incredible when compared to his previous release. For me, I struggle with the rationale as to the eye-watering prices and from a personal perspective how I could justify putting a collection of these figures together when the money can go along way in paying for other things.

Good point. The cheap plastic dies with foot pegs don't really help, either. I've made really effective stands out of old wire hangers and those clear plastic-covered twist ties that are wrapped around most figures in the package already. (Yeah, I love Toy Polloi!) Wrap the tie around the waist just below the belt and it hardly shows. Painting the wire with black Rust-oleum makes it less noticeable, as well, and if you vary the wire length, you can pose them any way you want and they'll stay up. I put them on Superman and Red Tornado, as they both have the heavy molded capes and wouldn't stay put for anything. Now they stand when everything else falls down. I need to get to work on the rest! I only have the Serpent Society figure from legends, because he looks a lot like Kobra, but I'd be sorry to see this line fade.

It's a massive issue for modern collecting. The figures are near useless if not displayed in a dynamic pose. I would love to see them come with display stands they way Action Force does.

McFarlane always includes stands with their figures and some of them are only 19.99

There was a short period of time where store exclusive Black Series figures would come with with a clear stand. It wasn't very good, but I'm surprised they didn't produce them more anyways since it was at least something.

Yes! I totally lament the loss of display stands being included with the figures! Why even have peg holes?!

I agree, the worst case I've ever seen is the Peter B Parker from Spider-Verse. He wears both a BOOT and a SHOE. No way he's standing up for more than 20 seconds without outside help

I’ve slowed down on legends. Not only are they not worth the increased price, but they didn’t up the production quality or accessories. I love legends but they don’t seem to put much care into the line anymore. I’ve moved mostly to McFarlane and NECA. McFarlane has kept his regular figures at $20 with accessories and stands for every figure. Even his bigger figures come with stands.

Yeah i agree all the figures need a figure stands. Been a thor collector myself and cant wait for the new thor this year

The mcfarlane figure stands are simple, but they come with every figure, make it so you can pose them and stand them properly, and it makes the display uniform, and they cost now $8 less than an average legends figure

Doesn't help much the detents on the ankles have increasingly become less level in the ankles across all the Hasbro lines. Some figures have to be in an action pose since they are not capable of standing straight up.

You should make a video of Black Series series hard to stand as well. The peg holes on their feet are not all the same some stands fit and some don’t

I mean there made to be played with not stuck on a shelf

I think that Hasbro should make some sort of stand for their figures (Marvel legends, Star Wars Black Series, Etc) Cause I feel like not only would it atleast make the new prices (25-30 Dollars) more "Justifiable" But also bring some collectors who have stopped collecting Legends or Black series back to collecting them

You make a lot of valid points. I do not disagree with you at all. The only thing that is a valid counter-argument about the price hike is that everything has gone up in price, yet nothing has improved in quality. This ranges from action figures, to contracted services, to camper trailers and most cars/trucks. It’s sad that we are slowly being conned into spending more than we should and then also made to believe that this is a value.

Its funny that some people hate on mcfarlane toys, when they have a base and are $20 standard as opposed to the base-less and mostly accessory-less $24.99 marvel legends

Oh your preaching to the choir on this one Tony. None of the joe's fit my 3rd party stands properly and they have 2 separate sized pegs. Instead or Blutac I glue my joe figures to the bases using goop or e 2000. The beauty of that glue is that it dosent bond to thd plastic so you can pry the feet off and remove thd glue with a strong finger nail when done. I learned this using it for my d and figure models. I glue them to bases using this so I can easily rebase thd figs at a latter date if I want but thd glue is very secure. I get some residue on the bases that require some alchole to scrub off but I've yet to have s classified figure that thd glue didn't come off and leave thd paint intact on the figure.

Ive developed interest in other lines like Transformers and don't get excited about Marvel Legends like I used to. Also Hasbro did a good job giving me the comic-based Marvel characters I wanted, all I really need is the Walmart exclusive comic Doctor Strange coming out soon.

Very informative breakdown

marvel legends are about $35 to $50 where i live

My purchasing rates of Classified, Black Series, and Marvel Legends has slowed way down. Not only of the price increases, but the lack of quality and poor character selection. There’s maybe 5 or so figures I “need” from the three lines total that are coming out this year. But honestly most the figures I want now are a few years old, like the Walgreens The Thing and Professor X. Great video, I do agree Hasbro can put stands in their figures, but they’re just too lazy to do so

I definitely agree with you about the figure stands! They should be included with the Marvel Legends figures.

I have over a hundred 6" Star Wars Black figures now. Only one - the Imperial Rocket Trooper - came with a rather nice triangular stand. Why these aren't common in the series, I do not know, but they really should be standard.

Amen! I love Marvel Legends but it's so frustrated trying to display them in a good-looking action pose (or even a vanilla pose sometimes). A figure stand would hardly break Hasbro's bank and make so many of us collectors happy. This is especially true with the price hike.

I only have a handful of NECA figures such as Aliens Colonial Marines , Predator , Robocop and horror figures. They’re quality control sucks most of the time and either the legs are not the same length and or loose joints right out the packaging so foot stands are a must. They do have uniform peg holes on the feet and NECA sells their own foot stands. Don’t know why Hasbro can’t do the same. I have some Black Series too and I’m afraid to pose them because the joints will get loose and fall because it’s hard to find third party stands that will fit as you described.

I call it "middle of the night" syndrome when I leave one of these figures in a dynamic pose, They will be fine alll day but in the middle of the night while im sleeping ill be woken up my a sudden loud crash noise lol.