She was literally a false prophet. She led her flock astray INTENTIONALLY. God will not be mocked and said those in charge of their flock that purposely leads their flock to damnation will be judged harsher then everyone else. I pray for the souls she left behind and pray they can break free from this cult.
we need to pray people down there see that The Trinity is correct and they need to repent of endorsing false doctrine that speaks against the Trinity. If they sit under that organization, they are endorsing that false teaching of being against the Trinity. Scripture says in 2 John says not to receive them into your house nor wish them Godspeed, lest you share in the evil deeds. The evil deeds of speaking against the Trinity and also any other evil teachings or deeds they do.
Jesus is God. Jesus left to His priestly duties, and promised another Comforter to overlook Earth: the Holy Spirit. Different missions. Be careful not to adopt Catholic lies of the three Personages.
@@tgblacksquad9639 Her spirit isn't right & her doctrine is not according to scripture. Her focus was glorifying flesh & not Christ. False teacher & false doctrines Beware of these going foward.
@@tgblacksquad9639 Remnant Fellowship teaches against the Triune Godhead, the Trinity. The Trinity is doctrinally and biblically correct. They have a Jesus who is not co-equal with God the Father and with the Holy Spirit. But they are all co-equal and are equally God, and yet One God. Their Jesus is "another Jesus" talked about in 2 Corinthians 11:4 or if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
@@frick6946you claim to have absolute certainty based off a book that is demonstrably false, ie plants didn't exist before the Sun, night and day didn't exist before the sun and moon, snakes don't talk, and knowledge isn't evil - that's all in the first page. But when you get sick or need your car fixed, why don't you just pray? Instead you stop believing in God and switch to science and rational thinking when it actually matters to you? That doesn't sound like certainty, but hypocrisy.
@@sugarjones731 Matthew 12:31-32 says there is an unforgivable sin, and that is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. That is the sin of rejecting God and refusing his offer of forgiveness and new life in Jesus Christ. This happens to those whose hearts are hardened. Jesus said he came to seek and save those who knew they were lost. It’s the ones who know and don’t care they are lost that are unforgiven.
@@sugarjones731 the sins you're stating here aren't unforgivable sins....blasphemy of the holy spirit is the unpardonable sin per scripture as mentioned.
@@angiepayne9790 Just to be clear you're telling me that child sexual abuse is a pardonable sin send however denial of the holy Trinity is not. Please respond.
@@sugarjones731 if the sinner repents and accepts Christ.....yes.....it's unbiblical to say otherwise.......scripture doesn't support that....which is our guide.....don't believe me....go to your Bible.
It’s actually quite tragic after you watch the HBO special. I knew she was a fruitloop, who went power mad and then lust mad over Joe Lara who seemed unhinged himself. He looked unstable to me, even when he was young. He had that unhinged look in his eyes. Then I found about who he was and it started making sense. But then you hear the stories of how many she hurt, including her ex husband and tragically her own children. Her son is talented and I hope he finds himself and is free now. And her daughter looks like a Skelton. And then you see what her and Joe did to his girlfriend and other peoples marriages who left the cult, it’s just heartbreaking. The one guy who had cancer and was injured who was losing his ranch to her lawyers made me so sad. I hope he kept it now they are gone. And the abuse the kids in the cult and even murder that happened. It just wants to make you cry. I heard the cult is falling apart, and I only hope it’s true.
we need to pray that the cult dissipates and falls by the wayside and that the people there get in the God-ordained born-again, spirit-filled Trinitarian church they were meant to be in.
@@frick6946 These people landing in a trinitarian church shouldn't be your focus... A well-known cult that's destroyed countless families which finally is dissipating is as a result of God's judgment. God's word is true & you're watching it in action. You should be asking the Lord to open their eyes and asking the Holy Spirit to send laborers who are equipped to help these families cope and get past the mind control they've been under. It's God's business where He sends these families. Because it's not about the physical church but it's about God's will being done & who He can use effectively to get it done. SO PRAY FOR A REVELATION OF HIS KINGDOM & HOW YOU CAN BECOME AN EFFECTIVE KINGDOM CITIZEN
She never thought the Trinity was polytheistic. All she did was make a statement that was a reference to John 14:28 and people twisted her words and blew things out of proportion.
near death experiencers say that they were told be careful of religions that claim they are the only way...not just one but many many all over the world from all religious backgrounds...said that.
@@effenkat3893 Jesus said " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one cometh unto the Father but by Me" John 14:6. There is only One Way to God the Father.
I'm late to the party, but here are some historical facts on the trinity: Math 28:19 - was altered in 325AD by the Nicean Council. They added the words "...,go, and make taught ones (diciples) of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." The Nicean Council, catholic church, in 14th Century created the "trinity." The original hebrew/greek says, "Therefore, go teach them to guard all that I commanded you. And see, I am with you always, until the ends of the age. Amen." Original text on baptism from earliest historical writing. John 3:5 Truly, Truly, I say to you, unless one is born of the water, and spirit he is unable to enter the reign of God." 1 john 5:6-8 was really messed up by the Nicean council. They added the whole line about the father. The Original 7. Because there are three who bear witness, 8. the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood. And the three are in agreement. So, the whole argument about the trinity is based on man-made lies, pokitical motivation of the times, and has NOTHING to do with salvation or damnation. People do not research to find the original text often. But many of your altered bibles have the additional changes in the footnotes. God is One. Not three. Messiah is God's son. Holy Spirit is the supernatural spirit of God that communicates with His children to guide them. It's not an "entity or human."
@@moniquefleming3738 God is One God and yet three Beings and yet One God. Thus, the Trinity, is biblically and doctrinally correct. I John 5:7 There are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost; and these three are One.
The trinity is false because Christ said He is not equal to the Father. John 14:28. The Godhead is Biblical and GOD IS THE HEAD OF CHRIST. Trinitarians teach error and try to damn you for not accepting their faulty theology.
I firmly believe there is always three sides to every story; "your side, my side, and usually the truth is somewhere in the middle." I have been walking with Jesus for 36 years now, and if the HBO documentary on this "religious business" is just one-fourth true, it is absolutely terrifying !!! Anyone who has a true relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, would have seen red flags, heard alarm bells, blue sirens, and yellow tape 😱!!! I have been praying for every soul still going in that building seeking peace, grace, love, or whatever he/she needs to fulfill their pre-ordained will and purpose that our Loving Lord created him/her for. Personally, I am struggling with a "church" website that features their weddings and wedding hair styles😳!
one of the the worst things they do is teach against the Trinity; teaching against the Trinity is very serious false teaching. There are 3 Beings and yet One God.
I was there in the beginning, and it's all true, and a lot you didn't see in the documentary. As a former employee I left on my own. We were being brainwashed daily. At the time I was doing a bible study elsewhere and was told I was in a coup with others aganist her, we were only allowed to listen to her. People who aren't grounded in the Word of God will get lost, and many did. The following verse talks about God fearing women, and how they were mislead by leaders, which is what Gwen did to many. But the Jewish leaders incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. Acts 13:50 NIV acts.bible/acts-13-50
The Trinity is true. God gives us grace and no one can change that fact. How can people be mistreated for not being perfect? Man will never be perfect. Isn’t that why Jesus died on the cross? RIP to all those that died in the plane crash.
it is false doctrine to teach against the Trinity; the Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct. When you are in a teaching position, you are judged by a stricter standard, so it does matter if leaders are not perfect in their doctrine. It matters very much if leaders are not perfect in their doctrine, because it leads people astray and they are held to a stricter standard.
Years ago i found myself reading message boards about shamblin ... so many former members and estranged family of Remnant Fellowship who shared their experiences. Many alarming accounts, especially when she (allegedly) used the 9/11 attack to clamp down on her weigh down peeps. She convinced a ton of WD members to move to Brentwood, TN and help her start the Remnant Fellowship. She positioned herself as a direct channel to God & created a whole new community/denomination/CULT. Weirdest of all, her husband of over 25 years was overweight and never endorsed her new religion. Not too long ago she landed the Tarzan actor, Lara is it? the 1st husband was divorced/further erased.... it seems all of her kids are followers though. My cousin left his job to move to from Japan to TN... he, his wife and kids still belong to remnant I think.
pray for them to get out ; Teaching against the Trinity is false doctrine. The concept of the Triune Godhead being One God, The Trinity , is biblically and doctrinally correct. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three separate entities, yet One God.
All 7 of the people who died in the crash of Gwen's Citation "near jet" are burning in hell right now. They know the hard way the fruits of her heresy.
My key to weight loss...exercise....exercise. I don't eat certain things but I'm neither vegetarian or gluten free or whatever....do sports....your body is made for it...and avoid false churches and false friends. Better to have few friends and a proper church
@@effenkat3893 John 3:16 King James Version 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@crystalwilliams6134 no offence...but i love god because he is a god of love..not fear...and i dont worship a book written by man...i take it with a grain of salt...but i do not worship the bible as if it was the direct word o f god...cuz it isnt..no more than the word of that church
I am not a body language expert, but her upper body is always moving away from anyone next to her, including her husband. Maybe she just can't have her "hair" messed up?
The TRINITY is FROM Catholic religion & a belief branched out to protestant type churches doing church on Sundays.All religion is man made.Recognizing God Almighty,having the Holy Spirit in us guiding us IS NOT A RELIGION.Saturday is WHEN we as a church should gather for worship etc.
The Trinity is in the scripture. I John 5:7 There are three that bear witness, the Father, the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost; and these three are One. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word ( Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God. John 10:30 ( Jesus speaking) " I and My Father are One" Acts 5:4,5 shows the Holy Spirit is God. Three entities that are One God. The Trinity was in scripture from the beginning. Maybe not all the teachings from the Catholic church are correct, but they are correct about the Trinity. The Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct and scripture to support the Trinity is still in there now and always has been, and always will be, whether the Catholics supported it or not. The protestant churches who are Trinitarian supported it because it was scriptural and accurate. Cults like the Jehovah Witnesses, Remnant Fellowship and the Mormons ( Latter Day Saints) and others are the ones who deny the Trinity. To deny or teach against the Trinity is false doctrine . The Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct.
Constantine changed it from Saturday to Sunday. He also worshipped the sun. Constantine murdered his child and I believe one of his wives. He converted to Christianity as he was dying. Years earlier in battle and winning he said he saw a vision of a cross asking him with this he'll lead/ win ( I'm paraphrasing). In the Greek Orthodox church he's a " saint". Cyril of Alexandria in both Orthodox and Roman Catholic religion is a doctor of the church as well as a "saint". He murdered Hypatia. See the film AGORA
Reading how joe was to his ex is disgusting...it was said he only chased rich women&lived off them..he certainly got a rich one in her..ugh deserve each other..he always trys. to look innocent but looks stupid..he cant hide the con he is!!
Not teaching that the Trinity is correct is something a Christian should never overlook or compromise with ; if a religious organization or an organization that calls themselves a ministry teaches against the Trinity , we are to have nothing to do with them. Teaching against the Trinity is false teaching. Another group that teaches against the Trinity is the Jehovah Witnesses.The Mormons don't teach it either . We, as Christians, should not endorse non-Trinitarians and their services in any way. Don't buy their literature, don't allow them into your house or your life, don't give them money, don't buy their books, videos , downloads, workbooks, don't wish them Godspeed ( as it says in 2 John 9-11). etc John 10:30. ( Jesus speaking) I and My Father are One. .2 John 9-11. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:11 for he the biddeth him Godspeed ( wish them well ) is a partaker of his evil deeds. Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. I John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost ( Holy Spirit) and these three are One.
@@LadyTanukiTime the Trinity is One God as described in I John 5:7 and also John 10:30 when Jesus said “I and My Father are One”. The Father, the Word (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit are separate beings and yet One God.
"The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas", though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine." I believe that that the Holy Spirit is that power that comes from God that he gifts to believers after repentance and baptism. The ministers lay hands on the recepient. It's all in Acts. Just FYI: I think that Shamblin was a kook and that whole 'church' of hers was a cult.
She started out with good intentions I believe. But... Exodus 20:2 and Deuteronomy 5:6.[1] It is the central tenet of the Abrahamic religions and prohibits the religion's followers from worshipping gods other than the Lord.[fn 1] The sin of worshipping another god is called idolatry.[2] Historically, the punishment for idolatry was often death
Remnant Fellowship teaches against the Trinity ( like the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons who are also called Latter Day Saints). They are all cults or cults of Christianity. John 1:1 emphatically states that the Word was God. So Jesus was God . Three entities in the Godhead, and yet they are One God. I John 5:7 There are three that bear witness in Heaven, the Father, the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost; and these three are One. John 10:30 ( Jesus speaking) " I and My Father are One"
"We've got more to lay down. I hope the Christian world doesn't close my mouth before it's over." No, the Christian world didn't, but Jesus Christ himself did.
Human emotion and desire lead humans too believe in our own psychological experiences and hopes instead of logical reason. Its like a 5yr old convinced that Spider man is actually real and if they just pray hard enough that they will become like him and lead a life full of saving others from crime. It is simply not grounded in reality and no amount of desire or earnest belief would change that for the kid.
Gluttony is a sin too. God doesnt want you 300 lbs. And i see her view.. why did Jesus say "why has Thou forsaken me" why he didnt say "why have I forsaken myself
Im naturally skinny&have been made fun of just as bigger people have...i think shes more like that..it takes eating as much as i can just to keep any weight on me..
So they’re debating among themselves! So funny! Next up, how many angels are there on the head of a pin! We have theologians debate this controversial subject.
The word "trinity" is not in the Bible anymore than the word " dinosaur" and yet when one reads the narratives and gospels, both are very evident there. Jesus said " I and the father are one". Jesus was brutally honest about his relationship with God and that his spirit would counsel believers after he went to heaven. It's really important to notice how Jesus used terms interchangeably to illustrate the trinity concept. The catholic church claims everything and makes a mess of everything in its quest to tap into every form of mystical power it can find while keeping people in a fog of works and unrepentance.
This point is one of the only things she’s correct about. No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Yet she violated the marital covenant of GOD ALMIGHTY by NOT remarrying but indeed married Joe Lara making her an ADULTERER - 1 Corinthians 7th chapter and NO adulterer shall inherit the KINGDOM of GOD - 1 Corinthians 6:9
@@natalieturner664 You tell someone to shut up for stating a documented fact, rather than refute the assertion like an adult. You reacted like a petulant 5 year old child. And not a child of God, which you surely are. Act like it. Before the Catholic Council of Nicaea, the Christian notion of the Trinity did not place Jesus as coequal with God. This was decreed by the Council of Nicaea. Sadly, Martin Luther did not dispose of this misguided Catholic notion of the Trinity during the Reformation. When you embrace this notion, you embrace Catholicism. Luther was more interested in the abuse of power by the Priests, rather than their theological errors. So modern Protestants are stuck with many erroneous Catholic concepts. Do some research, and you will become unstuck. Even so, where in the Bible does is say Jesus is God?
The concept of one God revealing Himself in three divine persons is very much in the Bible. The reason why there was a Council of NIcaea was because of the heretics who denied the doctrine handed down from the apostles teaching .. not a church council.
the Word " Bible" is not in the Bible and the word " rapture" is not in the Bible, that does not mean the concept is not there. The Trinity is very much in the Bible in concept and doctrine. The Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct.
Imho, if GSL had one redeeming quality, it was her nullification of Trinitarianism. Trinitarianism is an abject repudiation of the non-dualism that was Yeshua (Jesus). Trinitarianism was foisted upon Christianity by committee, at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, when Arius, a powerful and popular bishop of the eastern church, and the last true (non-dualistic) Christian, was excommunicated for his heretical beliefs. Trinitarianism does not make sense, and Gwen had the good sense to call BS. I regret that she did not go further and deeper to oppose the darkness of Calvinism and American fundamentalism. 7:54 “Without the understanding of the Trinity, you cain’t make sense out of Christianity.” BS! Why did the early church survive 300 years before the trinity was invented?
@@sugarjones731 Intimacy with source energy always has been and always will be and indispensable part of human self care. That requires a non-dualistic worldview. Yes! No religion required! Or desired! But I still love Tantra!
I John 5:7 There are three that bear witness in Heaven, the Father , the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost; and these three are One. John 10:30 ( Jesus speaking) "I and My Father are One"
2 John , verses 9-11 says not to endorse false teaching, or else you share in their evil deeds. using the diet program would mean you are promoting what she is promoting, and one of the things she is promoting is teaching that is against the Trinity, which teaching against the Trinity is false teaching. So therefore, you would share in their evil deeds by letting them in, receiving them, endorsing them, giving them money, promoting them , encouraging them on in their evil way ( teaching against the Trinity). The Trinity is a core essential doctrine that cannot be compromised with. Jehovah Witness , Mormons etc. don't teach the Trinity either. There is One God and He is eternally existent in 3 entities: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I John 5:7 T here are three that bear record in Heaven the Father, the Word ( Jesus) and the Holy Ghost and these three are One. We cannot just look at the outward teachings and follow them and not know what they teach at the core. If you endorse it, you endorse it all and will be held accountable as sharing in their evil deeds ( the evil deed of teaching against the Trinity. It will leave a wide open door to the Enemy ( Satan) to attack you as he sees fit. IF any organization rejects the core Essential doctrine of the Trinity, it is a cult and you should not endorse it in any way. 2 John , verses 9-11
Remnant Fellowship teaches against the Trinity; teaching against the Trinity is false doctrine. No one should follow teachings that have false doctrine. 2 John, verses 9-11, says don't receive them into your house and it also says don't wish them Godspeed, lest you share in their evil deeds.It's very serious. Don't endorse any organization that is against the Trinity. Flee from their presence. See Romans 16:17 also 7 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
because we are told in scripture to not fellowship with anyone bringing false doctrine and teaching against the Trinity is false doctrine. It's very important to not endorse or sit under an organization that teaches false doctrine against the Trinity.
Any business or human endeavor mixed in with Biblical teaching is a red flag. Jesus warned about these type of false teachings and people. Many led astray because they did not get educated in Christianity or read the Bible. All sins are forgiven except blasphemy toward the Holy Spirit. Jesus said when he’d leave the earth, he would continue to guide and teach as the Holy Spirit.
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Eternal pre-existence Earthly self-emptying Restored glory
I'm not sure how you came up with Christ having eternal pre-existence from that verse. I think almost Everyone believes that Christ was with the father before the world came into being.
Mic 5:1-2 John 1:1-2 Rev 1:8, 11 2::8 22:13 Col 1: 15-18 These are some scriptures to what I meant by his pre existence before the world was. Everything was made by Him and he couldn't have done that if He didn't exist. He was the seed of the woman who did crush the devil's head through his finished redemption work on the cross that he completed. Now he was going home and his glory was to be restored. Now through faith in Him and that finished work all who believe in him can go home too.
@@kimberleeturner8475 Yes, throughout scripture, Christ is known as the Alpha and Omega. Yet, do you not see the contrast between Christ as alpha and Omega and God as The Great I Am. Also, Christ compelled us to pray to our heavenly father, not himself.. Along with, Christ telling us that we are his brothers, sisters, etc. Note: We only have one father. This is my son in whom I am well pleased. ( Abba Father).
Unitarianism is a bona fide theological position, people don't realize that Constantine privileged a particular theology and there are multiple Christianities still. this video shows the stranglehold Trinitarianism has on people
Christ Before Creeds by Jess Deuble The Trinity: Christianities Self-Inflicted Wound by Anthony Buzzard One God and One Lord: Reconsidering the Cornerstone of the Christian Faith by Schoenheit, Graeser, Lynn They Never Told Me This in Church by Greg Deuble
She lied when she answered the question the lady said that I asked her when I lost that wait that's his are you saying that because I lost that weight that now I'm a child of God and when they asked her if she ever said that she said I've never I never I've never done that well that's a lie right there because that wasn't something that she did it was something that she said
That’s why women should not and cannot lead the church. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is GOD.
Jesus died and was resurrected for the purpose of saving us from our sins, because we need to be saved from our wicked ways. It was needed in order to satisfy the wrath of God regarding our sins. His sacrifice is not nullified, the Blood Covenant is not nullified, and it is not without reason. It is eternal. May the Lord help us to understand His ways and His will. May we not lean on our own understanding.
Grace is not a licenses to sin. Paul specifically spoke about this! Romans 6:1 Amplified Bible Believers Are Dead to Sin, Alive to God 6 What shall we say [to all this]? Should we continue in sin and practice sin as a habit so that [God’s gift of] [a]grace may increase and overflow? Romans 7:15 Amplified Bible 15 For I do not understand my own actions [I am baffled and bewildered by them]. I do not practice what I want to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate [and yielding to my human nature, my worldliness-my sinful capacity]. 1 John 3:8-9 Amplified Bible 8 The one who practices sin [separating himself from God, and offending Him by acts of disobedience, indifference, or rebellion] is of the devil [and takes his inner character and moral values from him, not God]; for the devil has sinned and violated God’s law from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, because [a]God’s seed [His principle of life, the essence of His righteous character] remains [permanently] in him [who is born again-who is reborn from above-spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose]; and he [who is born again] cannot habitually [live a life characterized by] sin, because he is born of God and longs to please Him.