Pat Leeman I don’t think it’s a matter of being too loud to hear everybody. I think it’s a matter of everybody feeling like what they have to say is so important that they NEED to be heard. The reality is most of us don’t need our opinions heard.
People only care about the spectacular dead. Not the dying, or the ones who go quietly. A celebrity dies and the world mourns. Hundreds of people die each day. No one bats an eye.
Tacotikki in the grand scheme of things they really don't. this isn't the first mass shooting and their have been far worse ones. The sympathy for most people only extends to posting a tweet if that. most people aren't gonna vote anyone out of office or even do a protest,all of a sudden everyone is occupied that specific day . When of comes time to vote half the people already forgot about it, the other half don't care enough to vote against the "guilty" politician. People always want someone else to do something, its like when someone gets hurt infront of a massive crowd and nobody calls 911.
Tacotikki how the fuck are these preventable smart ass ? Please tell me your brilliant plan. Because random mfers walking in public places and shooting it the fuck up is almost impossible to stop. And don’t give me some gun control bullshit, there’s more guns in Texas then there are people and they’re not just gonna return them.
It was a heartless thing to write... it’s like writing “in WW 2, the Jews were only 12% of the total number of dead so let’s keep things in perspective”. Or “ a comedian has a greater chance of being killed by tap water than being murdered in his sleep by his wife”.
My thoughts exactly... Yet sadly, USA's shootings are becoming even more frequent and I feel sorry for you guys. Just in case, I'm a guy from South America where things are even more fucked up in a daily basis.
@@tutoring6208 Thanks for correcting me. I had no idea. I've just done a bit of googling and found that it seems to have originated from an article in the Washington post that claims that Stalin interrupted a speech to express that sentiment as a retort, but it was worded in the article quite a bit differently to the way it is usually phrased now. So at the very least, my wording is inaccurate.
@@Sail3dAway Nice. That song also states 'A rebel from the waste down' which is a quote that I believe originated in the novel 1984. It's what Wiston says to Julia when she's talking about rebellion: 'You're only a rebel from the waste down'.
Brad Agee Once I grew up, and listened to the words of his songs and not his appearance, I was surprised to realize how deep he actually is. Goes to show you “don’t judge a book by its cover”. Wish more people would catch on
"Emotions neither prove nor disprove facts. There was a time when any rational adult understood this. But years of dumbed-down education and emphasis on how people 'feel' have left too many people unable to see through this media gimmick." Thomas Sowell
Removing your empathy does not make you a better scientist not having empathy is the trait of a psycho in this post neil stated that essentially because there is other forms of death which cause more deaths doesn’t invalidate or make this a “media spectacle” 34 people’s lives taken at the hands of a sicko lunatic, 34 lives lost to one man desensitising yourself to that by saying death happens all the time is stupid imagine if it was your friend or family
I agree that people overreacted and some people get offended by anything. However, Niel's tweet was stupid. If his wife was one of the people killed in Walmart do you think me sending him a tweet like that will comfort him? Of course not. Medical malpractice, auto accidents and sickness are not dealing with the same issue as intentional terrorist activity, even though the result is dead people. Plus the number of mass shootings keeps increasing which is a problem because "mass shootings" 20 years ago was not an issue or category we would be discussing. Medical malpractice, auto accidents, homicide and suicide ect.. have been issues for years. Finally, the other categories are not as unpredictable as mass shootings which apparently can happen at anyplace at anytime, giving the population more anxiety regarding the issue. I understand Niel was attempting to comfort people and put things in perspective, I just think he kinda failed at that attempt. I do think it's the intent and thought that counts so I'm not angry at Niel and am still a huge fan of the guy. But looking at the tweet from a strictly intellectual point; I think it still misses the point, that's all.
You can at least argue that the timing was in poor taste. Data insertion is just that. But we're thinking humans in a society, sometimes a little empathy is in order.
Those other deaths degrasse mentions are no less painful to the friends and families. However they are all the result of illness, accidents or in the case of suicide self inflicted. Really not the same as a psycho shooting a bunch of innocent people and kids like in many mass shootings. He was way off base and very out of touch with comment. Neil has a tendency to enter an arrogant, know it all, douche mode from time to time, where he makes silly and unnecessary comments. This was one of those times he should have known better and kept his mouth shut, because his opinion wasn't going to be well received. FYI I'm Australian. We don't have gun violence here. Except bikies occasionally shooting each other which is honestly pretty rare. When these mass shootings happen in America everyone here just feels sad and angry that it's allowed to continue, with civilians having access to an unnecessary level of firepower. The fact you guys need metal detectors and armed guards at you schools is frankly disturbing and the sign of a very sick nation, with an unhealthy fascination with firearms.
@@bradleythompson5531 It isn't an unhealthy fascination with firearms. It's an unhealthy fascination with violence. To be more specific, it's the unhealthy notion that kids being raised in fatherless households. The data on this one is irrefutable. Those who grow up without fathers are _far more prone_ to criminality and violence. Far too many fatherless homes here in the States and that has negative consequences in the behavior or our youth. Guns don't think for themselves and decide when and who to shoot at...
His tweet really outlines how people don’t actually care a lot about lost lives unless they’ve suffered horrifically at the hands of another fellow human.
There's a difference between car accidents, medical errors and someone gunning people down. Medical errors and car accidents are gong to happen, humans are fallible and not perfect. They will stop once automation kicks in. A mass murder is more horrific and more relevant due to it showing a cultural decline and a destabilization in a civilization. Neil is right and i agree with the facts but his train of thought is moronic
@bimmler Why are you being so obtuse? For example, If your father get's both feet cut off due to an accident or human error versus your sibling cutting off one of your fathers feet. Does the latter get more attention simply because more feet got cut off? Or do you focus on the abnormality of a sibling cutting off one foot? We can't control car accidents or medical error it's going to happen until a future where we automate but right now it's inevitability. Mass shootings are't an inevitability, they are cultural. Hence why australia or japan does't see the same amount of incidents..which is why people are alarmed at these attacks. They tell us something about where we're headed. I can't stand this Facts with out context autism it's like you guys can't think in nuance...you're gonna have trouble out there in the real world if you can't problem solve pass "black and white" paradigms
Yeh I feel so bad when the mass outrage forces good people with good intentions to apologize for something sincere! I can only imagine how many thousands are scared to express themselves for this very reason..
They are irrelevant, that is true - and yet here you are along with all the other "why are you upset about this statistically insignificant thing!!" mob, belly-aching online about a statistically insignificant thing. The irony fucking burns, but since this crowd is too stupid to see it for what it is, there's no real way to crow about it.
@@asyetundetermined you must be one miserable fuck lol. As long as people with big platforms continue to acknowledge these insignificant outrage mobs, I will continue to try and spread the info that these "outraged" people are irrelevant. It's as simple as that. No irony to it.
Sure some people are outraged but i don't think you can label every person who has an issue with his statement as part of an outrage mob, from what I've seen no one is arguing that the facts are false it was just a really inappropriate time to share them and his point wasn't very clear, 34 people died in a shooting within 48 hours and hes saying alot more people die on average in 48 hours..... sooo who gives a shit? Are we not supposed to care about those who died in the shooting just because more people die in car accidents 😂
@@Yamatsuuu so you think Neil is a shit person because some random greasy haired twitch streamer said so? I'm not saying this to have a go at you but that really isn't a smart way to think. I'm sure even Charlie would say you should practice more critical thinking. Peace and love man ☮️❤️☯️
First name Last name I just wish people would stop giving into the outrage mob because its just giving them power. However, I get it’s easier to write a comment on RU-vid then take a stand against the mob and would be a hypocrite to demand he took action. Just look at what happened to Jordan Petersen when he refused to conform to their demands. The media can destroy a man if he isn’t perfect in every way
Yeah I used to use social media daily but honestly people are so much better off without that shit. We weren’t built to cater to each other opinions as much as everyone forces it now, too many problems arise
@@antisocialfb6005Some border states check but that's for other reasons. I mean you physically can drive a gun from one place to another but every state has it's own gun purchasing laws. The stores require a state license proving residence and a federal background check. Each state has a minimum required residence time. In North Carolina it took 6 months for application to buy a pistol was even looked at. Also the state I live in won't sell me a 30 round magazine because I lived in California to recently. So unless you have the money and time there's probably more efficient ways to commit a crime.
@@joeofcourse but so, in theory, i can drive to a state that has a gun show (or whatever you call em) on where you can buy them with no background check, and drive it back home?
JoeOfCourse it's very easy to buy a gun on the streets though. And I am a decent guy.. lol But I don't agreed with people blaming guns on everything and not the humans using them
I think it's a bad tweet depending on how you interpret the last sentence. The last sentence can appear as if people shouldn't react to a terrorist attack emotionally. But I loved his apology, he obviously did not mean to belittle anyone emotions and came off very thoughtful and sincere.
I think it 'can appear' that way for the same reasons though.. because people put their emotions first and foremost. It's a statement about how people think too emotionally about some things, and people responded to it emotionally. It's often valid criticism. Why are you picking and choosing what you are emotional about? My opinion is that it is because you watch the media, and their job for the last decade was to make $$$$ off of your outrage, and they are good at it. Also, all in all, we're very susceptible to it. Media is leading most of us around by the nose happily and thoughtlessly. Media is blaming guns when most of these people had mental health issues which should be addressed... which is harder to access as a male... which most of the shooters are.
@@Hethalean definitely mental health issues are a problem all around in society. Especially when you look at the high number of combat vets dealing with PTSD, who end up as shooters. I see an ideological issue as well, when it comes to terrorism. Some mass shooters have been linked to hateful and extreme views. It's not always mental illness. Personally, I see it as a battle with many different fronts. There are various reasons why gun violence is so high. So we have to be willing to confront all of those reasons. Which includes easy access to guns, suicide by gun(a lot of men affected by this as you pointed out), and gang violence in urban areas - which is connected to socioeconomic struggles. Side note. I would love to see a free government program where you could turn your guns in fingerprint guns. That would help with accidental gun deaths of children.
Yeah buddy that was Stalin. Arguably the 3rd worst dictator of the entire human history. It's nice to know that so many American people agree with him on this.
The outraged response to Neil’s tweet actually confirmed his initial point. Some can make a argument that apologizing only gives weight to the outrage however the way Neil tends to educate/make his points is by having a civil conversation/debate appealing to the potential of what a person can become, if only exposed to the evidence/information in a “respectful” way.
@Kim Wallace My boyfriend? I'm lost on your comment but can't figure out why? Maybe it's your keen intellect? Maybe I don't take women seriously anymore? Must be something.
There's a difference between car accidents, medical errors and someone gunning people down. Medical errors and car accidents are gong to happen, humans are fallible and not perfect. They will stop once automation kicks in. A mass murder is more horrific and more relevant due to it showing a cultural decline and a destabilization in a civilization. Neil is right and i agree with the facts but his train of thought is moronic
@@acutecloudd7970 so what tho? You act like their is some dire consequences for talking about that subject matter. Not everyone has your opinions or sense of morals, the more we shy away from the subject the more it'll keep happening. Neil being the adult in the room yet again
@@tamie341 You misunderstood my comment you need reading choprehision. The things neil talked about are simply going to happen so what's the relevance in stating them? He's not being a rational as he thinks he is. If you're mother get's shot in the head tomorrow but then we find out more people die of cancer what relevance is that to you? You can't cure cancer but violence you can do something about. Neil isn't being an adult btwe i love neil huge fan he's simply not thinking rationally.
If anything Neil made the mass shooting seem less significant on a global scale. Which diminishes what I assume is the shooters intent. To feel significant. Like, " hey crazy person, you'll never be heart disease".
I think he is trying to curb the knee jerk reaction to do something with facts & real solutions to problems. Waning to ban all guns for 34 deaths won't change criminals breaking the law, he is pointing out problems we have solutions for but haven't addressed.
Until the echo chambers and knee jerk Media reactions lose momentum, we will all have to keep suffering through these FAKE tantrums. Good thing is, that it seems most normal people think this is all stupid. The electoral process will ultimately show what America really thinks.........a lot of people are going to be even more "outraged" around 2020. I wouldnt be surprised if Republicans (of which I am NOT) take the WH, Congress, and the friggin Senate. Just due to all the sneering arrogant "you better do or think this, or else" bullshit being shoved in their faces 24/7. Every 8-12 years, if you look at our election history, people generally start to despise whichever side becomes the "Saltiest" or whoever whines the most.
I think there's an issue of making death's relative to other deaths. For example: Going to a funeral, and telling a family member, "I'm so sorry for your loss. Every minute, an average of 10 African children die of starvation. Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than data." This statement is a fact, but it's still an asshole move.
He didn't send the victims families DMs, though. He wrote something on his personal twitter page, that people need to go to, to read what he has to say. Very different circumstances.
I think with him being such a significant scientist he should be using his platform and large following for spreading true information! It's not irresponsible usage at all what is he just supposed to share sunshine and rainbows all day every day without speaking the truth? People now days can't handle the truth but sometimes the truth isn't always positive information, it's just not the world we live in.
@@LauraWalez26541 The truth is that your existence on earth will impact almost no one, literally almost a perfect 0% of people on the earth. Beyond that - those handful of people who will only ever marginally give a shit about you, most of which being with self-serving motivations in any case, will ultimately die as well and be forgotten to time. You mean nothing and this world will not carry your name or legacy. Your existence and that of your immediate family and circle of loved ones is completely meaningless to all and your continuance on earth in light of this is something of a wasteful and harmful endeavor. The world would objectively be a better place if you were all to die tomorrow. These are 100% irrefutable facts. Thank you in advance for your thumbs up since you enjoy truth so much.
D F that could be true unless I decide to use my time on earth to help others and make an impact. You could in fact say that about anyone including your own self but life and our legacy is determined on how we choose to perceive the world and ourselves. But the purpose in my own life is to seek happiness so my legacy isn’t a #1 driving factor of my personal existence. As long as I’m able to help out others that’s all I care about
People complaining about his tweets are the same ones that say “prayers to all those who died/families of those who died” but I bet not once at night actually prayed for them or their families.
@@TheBeatKeeper I believe In GOD and I'm a hundred percent certain God will answer my prayers by easing the pain this tragedy has caused the victims's families.
@@farveazmohamed1305 life is about pain and misery. Let people learn of inner self that is struggling, let them get stronger from this experience. Why would you want to take that away with your prayer? Btw, it is victims' and not victims's
Farveaz Mohamed typing words or claiming a stance doesn’t make it so. I can type ‘prayers for you’, and never prayed not once. Acknowledgment is not prayer. People who write that type shit aren’t praying, they are just acknowledging somebody. Prayer is a conversation with God, you ain’t getting that on a keyboard.
no, his post was from emotions of peoples outrage on gun violence and not focusing on other causes of deaths. logic doesn't tell you what you should, but what you ought to do if you WANT something, wants are based on emotions
@@taiwoolaleye6333 I think we are talking about different ideas. I want a society that works, not a society that panders to the whims of whoever is complaining loudly or whatever issue is sensational. I want a society that values what makes sense over what is currently outraging the public (or a small percentage of it).
@@FudGnut what makes sense is political, also saying "what outrages a small minority" is a bad faith argument, which is also based on feelings. most of the reasons we humans have gotten this far are mostly because of minority voice calling out what is unfair and unjustified. which is how humans work. we are all emotional beings, it is why you stated what you said, cause you FEEL it is a better way of society functioning (politics) even though you can not prove why it would be better.
Deku taking morals out of a society doesn’t solve anything. A balance of emotional and logical thinking is always best. I know it’s not the answer you wanted but the right answer to these kinds of things are usually not extremes. Extremes are easy to take but it’s usually a lazy way of thinking.
@@squaredcircle5369 You falsely equated morality with emotion and then assumed my intentions, followed by an ad hominem attack. You are not worth being taken seriously. See how logic makes solutions so easy?
Juan Delgado but why give us random data at such a sensitive time where we lost a group of innocent people at once due to a hail a bullets shot at them. Like people are still shook up from that, why even tweet that out? Of course people are going to be emotional about this awful spectacle
@@squidword3360 so mass shooting victims deserve more sympathy than a bunch of individuals throughout the country that also were killed as well? He listed more are killed via handgun but you don't see people crying for them.
@Cait L. and it could not be: "Media where are you for other people who die every day, here is the number" !?? Or you did not think about anything and just wrote the comment which you saw on that same media and acceoted as valid one worth sharing with us ?
joie helianth emotions are how people reason x feels good, y feels bad. The problem is if your reason disagrees with people’s emotions it becomes dangerous to say.
@@piperian3962 emotions are NOT to be relied on because you'll end up framing up somebody and barking up the wrong tree. Remember how they almost worshipped Hitler? Emotions lead you astray but reason provides due process for every individual and every proposition. More likely you'll just present me with double standards so I'll just leave it at that.
But people do rely on them and always have and messages sent into the ether of the internet should realize that. Not because it’s wrong but because it’s true.
@@MotorYardtraphik at least you admit you're full of shit.... I dont really care to get into a debate about trump with someone who admits they blatantly make shit up.. you'll just proceed to make more shit up. Good night. Have a nice life...
the bad thing about his tweet is that it suggests there is nothing you can do to prevent these shootings just like we cant prevent all the other things that kill us
Several years back, in the aftermath of the devastating Nepal earthquake, my design agency posted a poster saying, 'Nepal doesn't need your prayers, make a donation if you care' listing the links. The outrage was so massive that the traffic crashed our site. And not a single soul made a donation!
The act of prayer defined is just words. Action will change the world. Pray for people in need (or don't) and help them. If you are only praying for them at least you feel good about yourself thanks to their misery. Small minds have large mouths.
@Handsome B. Wonderful I cant show it to you but since praying for my mate with heavy drug problems his life has really begun to change. Theres alot of things that have happened to me after praying for them. A quote I like is "when I pray coincidence's happen, but when I dont pray they dont". But your prayers arent always answered i know I've prayed for things that didnt happen but i look back on those things and am happy they didnt. Pray is powerful because God is powerful without God I wouldnt be like I am today without God I wouldnt of gotten out of where I was and without prayer i wouldn't of been able to ask for the help I've been given. God is good
@@TheRealKSmith I mean I prayed probally started praying about a week maybe 2 weeks before along the lines of what I asked for happened. At the point I wasnt in a good place to help I was still sorting out my problems with drugs. Now I'm trying to just be a mate theres other people he has that are better to help him than me.
His timing was exactly correct, given how certain parties were waving the bloody shirt immediately after the events. THEY were the ones exploiting the grief and shock of the attacks.
Yeah they're banned. He also said that Trump using words like "infested" egged on the shooter, this is baseless and stupid. Trump uses that word when referring to places which are infested with rats and infested with crime, he spoke about it like Trump was using it to refer to people when be hasn't.
it took an executive order which came months after the whole ban bump stocks outcry so give him a break, it wasn't blasted across the news because they don't talk about what Trump does if it's something the left would like.
Matt Stanislen Easy to have Jamie look up, though. But letting false information like that stand is also “part of the problem” (that they are talking about), I don’t expect Joe or his guests to fact check every single thing they say, I am reasonable, but this feels like a moment where a quick search would have been useful. Have a nice day!
NDgT grew up in the inner city... he’s not wrong at all for saying this. As a scientist he said the sheer facts, and dumb people think he’s downplaying domestic terrorism
@Burning City I agree with what you said. I'd add though, that if the shooter was brown or Muslim, the right wing would be pushing a different narrative than the "mental health issue" they are pushing. That's because the racist right is also obsessed with pushing race.
So if something tragic happens to you, just remember the guy that can tell you the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell can also help u find comfort by reminding you that your grief dont mean shit just to take it his comment back and hide behind the gist of promoting initiative to help make a better world by pretending to be empathetic. Does not offend me personally, but I'm not going to pretend what he was saying was dismissive and had no point.
As a scientist myself and a viewer of a lot of Dr. Tysons talks, I think a lot of people missed an undertone of what he was saying: the causes of all these types of deaths are things we ACTIVELY work to prevent. We care. We do influenza research annually to stay on top of it, we eradicate diseases, we do M&M conferences when there may be hospital error. We take active steps to prevent or minimize deaths in these cases. I think he was also pointing out that we essentially do none of it when it comes to gun violence
He flippantly dismisses the UFO phenomenon. I have seen a UFO. They move witha technology far superior to known human tech and DeGrasse merely dismisses it as shared psychosis
@@steverobertson3980 Same. Unfortunately the UFO debate only resonates with people who have witnessed them. For the rest it is just conjecture. This pertains to many phenomena that can't be explained by science...yet.
Putting your thoughts on Twitter is just the worst thing to ever do. It's an outrage machine. The level of hate I got for daring to find one tiny thing about Star Wars I don't like was insane.
He would be labled a raging patriarchal white supremacist. "But male and female brains are different" "You misogynistic piece of shit! The only possible reason you would say that is that you hate all women!"
Reminds me a lot of the Joker in The Dark Night, who says that people are fine with massive death, so long as it's part of the plan. My favorite thing about that character is that he makes too much sense
Another way to look at it... there are 40,000 gun related deaths in the U.S. per year. 37,000 fatal car accidents. Gun deaths exceed car accident deaths. Are people not concerned or working on getting car deaths down? Should we not be concerned with even 1 kid dying of unnecessary gun violence just because it was one kid?
I don't know where did he get this data... It is very difficoult to calculate it, because doctors and hospitals never admit their mistake and cover it up, its like a rule, they would be sued otherwise. And how often are mistakes...who the fuck knows.
researchers examined four separate studies that analyzed medical death rate data from 2000 to 2008, including one by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of the Inspector General and the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. Then, using hospital admission rates from 2013, they extrapolated that based on a total of 35,416,020 hospitalizations, 251,454 deaths stemmed from a medical error, which the researchers say now translates to 9.5 percent of all deaths each year in the U.S. www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us
Bumpstocks were banned without any fanfare. At least 250,000 Americans that legally owned them were criminalized basically overnight by them being banned.
How to deal with children having a tantrum, hmmm... Lets see here, ah! There it is! "give into them and do what they want" perfect! *starts to type up his own apology for this snarky post*
@@tgbeam exactly why semi auto rifles with large capacity mags should be illegal. Here in Australia we are limited to 10 round mags & everything is fine here. The whole world has guns but the usa is the ONLY english speaking countries that have this level of violence. Its a culture issue.. you guys are just a violent country.
true, thousands and thousands patients and elderly people die from dehydration in hospitals and care homes. Not directly of course, but dehydration causes an irreversible damage to their health that make them unresponsive, bed ridden, will reduce their life spam, and from there only a stroke or a heart attack awaits them with in months.
Healthy people don't die in hospitals. Yet healthy people get killed while shopping. Yes, old people die. That doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about being randomly shot in the store. People are out of their fucking minds.
I totally agree with Neil, but 500 deaths to medical errors is actually inaccurate and referencing a study from 1999 that had a broad definition of “medical errors”
Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! ~ I have found out over the last 8 years that many people don't react well to anyone conveying objective truthful information. -- ”No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.” Plato #ciscostestimony
so, I want to make a correction here when Alonzo says they didn't even ban the bump stock. That's wrong, completely wrong. they did, they banned it and it's illegal to own it's now classified as a machine gun, the reason in effect nothing happened is they weren't sold as a firearm so no paperwork was ever done attaching a name to the sale of any bump stock. Enforcement of the ban on bump stocks is completely impossible.
This is exactly analogous to highway vs air travel safety. We are horrified when a plane goes down with 2 or 300 on board but remain blissfully unaware of the 30 to 40K dying annually in car crashes. It’s the tragic density that gets everybody amped.
They brainwashed ppl so badly ur seeing ppl go into flight or fight via their responses.. like in the woods u see a wolf u go into flight or fight if ur in danger.. this happens to weak minded ppl all the time now but just on the level of their minds and personal belief system which has been givin to them by brainwashing them by influencing them through out their childhood and teen years.
@Hillbilly Veteran you're kidding right? (Links below) You must be. If so, the mass drones out there should know the CDC who makes up those phony numbers routinely started counting people who died from other cause as dying from the flu years ago, because big pharma execs have been on top positions on the CDC and FDA FOR DECADES ( investigative journalist Ben Swann ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d6iZs6gwXHU.html ). I don't have time to find the proof of the flu scam but what I have hear should suffice for any intelligent, critical thinker. It's probably wiped from the internet by now anyways..... How could this be? Ask the gullible, dogmatic masses? Big pharma is the #1 LOBBY BY FAR, AND a top advertiser. Hence the TRUE CONSPIRACY. Look at this article, the fomer editor of 20 years for the New England Journal of Medicines statement of, "A physician and author, she also wrote: “ I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine” [12]. “No one knows the total amount provided by drug companies to physicians, but I estimate from the annual reports of the top 9 U.S.-based drug companies that it comes to tens of billions of dollars a year in North America alone. By such means, the pharmaceutical industry has gained enormous control over how doctors evaluate and use its own products. Its extensive ties to physicians, particularly senior faculty at prestigious medical schools, affect the results of research, the way medicine is practiced, and even the definition of what constitutes a disease.” www.google.com/amp/s/ethicalnag.org/2009/11/09/nejm-editor/amp/ According to a 2009 study by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, with the exception of CBS every major media outlet in the United States shares at least one board member with at least one drug company. trofire.com/2017/04/11/big-pharma-owns-corporate-media-americans-waking-fighting-back/ "The combined profits for the ten drug companies in the Fortune 500 ($35.9 billion) were more than the profits for all the other 490 businesses put together ($33.7 billion) [in 2002]. Over the past two decades the pharmaceutical industry has moved very far from its original high purpose of discovering and producing useful new drugs. Now primarily a marketing machine to sell drugs of dubious benefit, this industry uses its wealth and power to co-opt every institution that might stand in its way, including the US Congress, the FDA, academic medical centers, and the medical profession itself." Dr Oz doesn't vaccinate his kids but says you should. Like most PCP's, to keep their jobs. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-by9cCtqf5Ik.html www.wanttoknow.info/truthaboutdrugcompanies www.collective-evolution.com/2019/01/31/robert-f-kennedy-jr-explains-how-big-pharma-completely-owns-congress/ articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/16/drug-commercials-misleading.aspx 14 falsified studies used to claim vaccine safety (hint; there's never been a double blind, placebo controlled study as are required for all other drugs because vaccines were classified as "biologics" and exempt from lawsuits in the Childhood Vaccine Reform Act of 1986):. www.fourteenstudies.org/ Big pharma is addicted to fraud but we rarely hear about it. Odd. www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/#1fb902cb15fe Just watch the first 1.5 minutes of this video to illustrate another reason the scam continues: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZQxwalPNxyU.html Most vaccines are made in China with almost no FDA oversight, but good luck proving it. The links I found a free years ago have been wiped from the internet it seems (pro/con.com had extensive proof/ links. But these articles help shed light: www.cnbc.com/2018/08/06/chinas-growing-drug-scandal-is-having-a-ripple-effect-around-the-worl.html www.usatoday.com/story/news/2012/10/21/global-drug-manufacturing-oversight/1646487/ Then there's the fact vaccines didn't erradicate anything: According to this major study by McKinley and McKinley and reaffirmed by CDC scientists in 2000: www.columbia.edu/itc/hs/pubhealth/rosner/g8965/client_edit/readings/week_2/mckinlay.pdf "- 92.3% of the mortality rate decline happened between 1900 and 1950 [before most vaccines existed] and only 1-3.5% of the decline after 1950 was due to vaccines" Not only did CDC SCIENTISTS reconfirm all this data in 2000, but they also provided more insight into the things that actually have led to declines in mortality. Published in September 2000 in the journal Pediatrics and titled, "Annual Summary of Vital Statistics: Trends in the Health of Americans During the 20th Century," linked here vaccinesafetycommission.org/pdfs/45-2000-Pediatrics-Vital-Statistics.pdf epidemiologists from both Johns Hopkins and the Centers for Disease Control reaffirmed what we had already learned from McKinlay and McKinlay: “Thus vaccination does not account for the impressive declines in mortality seen in the first half of the century...nearly 90% of the decline in infectious disease mortality among US children occurred before 1940, when few antibiotics or vaccine were available. "water treatment, food safety, organized solid waste disposal, and public education about hygienic practices." Also, "improvements in crowding in US cities" played a major role. Clean water. Safe food. Nutrition. Plumbing. Hygiene. These are the primary reasons humanity was saved. jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/5/14/savehumanity This explains why so many diseases disappeared without a single vaccine like Scarlet Graver and Typhoid. According to studies linked below, the Measels vaccine causes the vast majority of Measels outbreaks today due to "viral shedding". They're worse Measels outbreaks than natural Measels create other problems natural Measels do not. www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Measles/measles-history-in-america.aspx thinktwice.com/measles.htm The story is similar for all other diseases we vaccinate for today according to several huge studies within the links Listen close to the audience member here and note that most Doctors who haven't read the actual science will fight for vaccines simply because they don't want to think they've been causing harm:. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3pxVqSNk-D8.html www.statista.com/statistics/257364/top-lobbying-industries-in-the-us/ healthimpactnews.com/2011/studies-show-that-the-countries-with-the-most-vaccines-have-the-worst-infant-death-rate/ thevaccinereaction.org/2017/03/how-much-is-taught-on-vaccines-in-medical-school/ Most medical books are written by or for big pharma via "ghost writers": www.nybooks.com/articles/2009/01/15/drug-companies-doctorsa-story-of-corruption/ content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1883449,00.html www.wanttoknow.info/truthaboutdrugcompanies Tons of Doctors, scientists, and patients tell and show ALL the facts here ru-vid.com/show-UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ Flu and HPV vaccines might be the biggest scams yet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ml4M8Kjg8SI.html New study, flu vaccine actually causes more flu according to research study: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nUI63Im95Lc.html Flu vaccine, marketing scam ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wRrh3kapZzw.html Lastly, know that the childhood vaccineprevents vaccine manufacturers from being sued which means they can do anything and put anything in them. Among other things this has resulted in the high suicide rate of soldiers from experimental vaccines. Do you really think Air Force support soldiers without any stress from combat have PTSD enough to kill themselves? Think about it people... Did you know many vaccines have encephalitis as a possible side effect? Did you also know that encephalitis has the same symptoms as Autism? Yep...... have you ever wondered why autoimmune diseases in childhood brain cancers have risen from ten to twenty thousand percent over the last couple decades? Now you have your answers......All those things increase healthcare/ big pharma owned profits. Similar to healthcare companies investing in fast food companies but harder to prove. Term limits are the beginning of the answer.
To be fair, 500 deaths due to medical errors in 48hrs while not technically inaccurate it's intellectually dishonest. It's accurate based on reports that have lumped many causes together and it's still disputed by experts.
Indiana gun shows won’t sell to a person that lives in Illinois due to the different and more strict gun laws, no dealer would risk their license and their freedom for one sale.
@@artvandelay3840 100% there would have been people offended at his tweet. But you also have another % of people who pretend to be offended at the tweet, as it makes them feel important.
@@6Dawso I guess the more important question is whether the tweet is actually offensive. I'd say yes for 3 reasons: 1) It doesn't hold logically, as it appears to be a false equivalency. 2) It's tactless and insensitive to refer to recent mass murders as "spectacle". Kind of a trivializing word. 3) It's coming from NGT, and people tend to think he's better than this.
STOP SAYING WHEN THERE IE SOME FORM OF CONTROVERSY THAT “he got in trouble” this makes them think they have power and control over what is correct and incorrect and also hold control over the punishment.
Well there’s two parts to an apology. Most people don’t remember the second part. Apologies: 1st part: Hart felt sorry for what you did. 2nd part: what are you going to do to make sure the actions taken are repaid and/or learned from so it won’t be repeated.
@@asyetundetermined D F I can see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Every political issue essentially has two sides as polar opposites. The powers that be on the left and right try to twist each issue into a talking point for an issue they have always wanted to change. In this case it's the rabid left that is beating the drum on this issue. The left wants to use mass shootings as a boogeyman to scare their base into making irrational decisions by taking one step closer to banning gun ownership, which is their real goal. You know who else wanted to ban guns? Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. The left is not in good company on this issue. When one of the sides is trying to exploit an issue for their own gains they don't properly put an issue into context. The goal is to scare everyone into overeating. They want people to believe that mass shootings are a larger issue than they actual are. Neil deGrasse Tyson was trying to present some facts that would put this issue in context so people wouldn't be so blindly scared. This would be like a plane about to take off with someone on board yelling that the plane is going to crash because planes crash all the time. This would scare the people on the plane that don't know the facts when it comes to plane crashes. In reality there is only a 1 in about 5,000 chance of dying in a plane crash in an entire lifetime. People aren't usually scared of dying in a car accident, but the chance is much higher at 1 in 84. In this analogy the man yelling the plane is going to crash is the left, the plane is the mass shooting issue, and Neil deGrasse Tyson would be the person telling them the odds of them dying in the plane or automobile to alleviate some of their unfounded fear. I didn't say anything about me being stirred into anything. That is a false narrative you made up in your head. My post talks about the people who have been hating on Neil's comments have been trying to stir up hate among their base, and they can't do that if he fights them with facts. I would say you are socially, emotionally, and intellectually retarded but that would be an insult to retards. Don't you know you should never go full retard?
Critical Mass You went into a psycho screed there that is so shoehorned and beside the point that I won’t deign to dignify it by reading it. Get well, brother.
@@asyetundetermined I win! Everyone else that reads this thread will see that you lost this argument because you don't have the metal aptitude to form a coherent argument for your position. I bet you read what I wrote and realized you couldn't make a case so you are pretending you didn't read it. In any case you are the loser in this argument, and with so many other aspects of your life.
Critical Mass Cool, but wiser folks will understand that some “battles” are not worth fighting, most specifically those which hold no relevance or stand to present any meaningful insight on the topic at hand. In short, one can’t lose a battle they have no interest in joining. Get well, brother.
Critical Mass You began harping on Left/Right political paradigms and I glanced and saw some policy speak as well. I wasn’t approaching this from that angle at all. So to the extent that you want to claim victory, for whatever that is worth, knock yourself out. I genuinely don’t care. Just understand that you are spiking the ball in the middle of an uncontested field. If you need that, take that. But since it appears you do, this is why I will continue to urge you to get well, brother, because that seems to me a glaring character weakness. Have a good one, pal. Feel free to reply, but I am done and won’t be reading personally. This thread is unrewarding.
Garett Crook that’s not how this works. You’d still have to go through your own states system to get the gun. And if you can’t legally get the gun within your own state, you can’t get it from another. Again, you have to be a resident of the state you buy from.
why do these people respond to the vocal minority? Apologizing simply encourages other people to be outraged about facts. Ignore em, as they should be.
i think you guys missed dG Tyson's main point, which I believe to be that media is using our emotion to manipulate our opinions. very valid point indeed and much, much respect to dGT for pointing that out.
