I love my Profile Design DRV/GMR handlebars. Widths from 36cm C-2-C with flared drops only, so your hoods stay in the 'normal' road handlebar position (I angle mine in a little) with an extra 8cm flare. That's great for comfort, stability and loads of extra leverage for sprinting!
Love that they finally have readily available stems to swap out. Even though they are $199 or $179 with easy to get coupon that's still far less than changing out an entire integrated bar like you would have to on a high end trek madone or similar for $650+. Canyon is certainly not for everyone with no shop support and lackluster customer support after purchase but if you know how to do all your own bike maintenance like myself, I think what they're offering is quite compelling.
If, like they say, they designed the Aeroad around pro racers, it does make sense not to test with bottles. The most critical segments of a stage race sees riders throwing off their bottles. Except for the glaring stem fit issue, I do like the way this model is evolving.
I have the pale green CF SLX model with the SRAM Rival group set and DT Swiss wheels. She’s a beauty and very fun to ride. Far and away the best bike I’ve ever owned / ridden.
I have an MVDP edition Aeroad CFR from a couple years ago. SM size came with a 9cm stem--short for me I knew but I rode it for a season this way and it wasn't that big a deal. The longer stem unit was out of stock for eternity really... I ended up basically trading the 90 for a 100, buying and selling on ebay. I was a shop mechanic for a long time so these things don't bother me but prohibitive for anybody that doesn't work on their own bike, for sure. This all said--the bike is amazing. When I ride it in aero stuff, like helmet, kit, socks... holy cats.... it is so much 'faster' than my older rim brake Felt FR-1. It's bananas. I don't ride it in races b/c I'm paranoid of damaging it, but did take it and rode it in the 'Eddy' style TT in a recent stage race. It made the difference for a podium finish for sure.
If only Canyon would let you choose your stem length when buying their $10,000 bike, would take a lot of the edge off of not being able to easily swap stem lengths on the integrated cockpit. But if it's anything like the current Aeroad, then Canyon won't even let you buy a new cockpit at all
The stem - what Canyon is calling the PACE T-Bar - is on site with 70-140mm lengths, but no US pricing. The Euro price is 199, so probably close to that in dollars.
They have "low stock" of 70 & 120-140, so these will be unavailable very soon. If I was to buy an Aeroad I'd immediately be up for ~450€ to get the right bars and stem length, plus a different saddle, so €500+, and then there's changing things over, longer hoses, etc. Looks nice but not practical unless you fit it as is IMO.
Watched 5 reviews on the new Aeroad today, yours is definitely the best one. Have a 22 Aeroad, love it but when I bought it I knew the stem length would be too short and cranks too long… but still good. Flexible sizing direct to customer selling will be a game changer.
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney almost impossible to change without spending a fortune so I adjusted to the shorter stem but have changed the crankset to 172.5( the Japanese service center for Canyon is not responding to my emails at all😂) so it’s all up to me and if I can be bothered
Garage looks great! Also bike looks pretty quick too… I love racing and training on my (as of this morning) “old” Aeroad, truly my favorite bike of my career. Hope to test out the new one soon.
I don't think that is faster than Foil or S5 but definetly is the less painful in maintenance and overall package in integration and adjustability. Nice
Good video and review.The bike looks great and is a good deal at the top end. However, the idea that you can't spec a stem length on a $10K+ bike is ridiculous in 2024 and clearly done only to simplify Canyon's logistics. A couple of things I would add: 1. Canyon bikes are weirdly huge. Most everyone will need to size down. 2. Canyon post-sale customer experience isn't great based on what I've heard, which is especially annoying given all of the proprietary stuff on this bike.
Not ALL DTC companies are the same. Ari (formally Fezzari) lets you swap out any components, including saddles, to better ensure your fit. You can make your bike yours verse getting what you get
well put. I think they are banking on consumers not being informed about what there fit is...I hate seeing ppl new to the sport on ill fitting bikes....
well put. I think they are banking on consumers not being informed about what there fit is...I hate seeing ppl new to the sport on ill fitting bikes....
I find it crazy that many mail order bikes continue to have an integrated cockpit, especially at "entry" level. I dont think consumers would ever prfioritize aerodynamics over fit, if they actually knew what worked for them. I've had a few bike fits in my time and am pretty confident what works and what does not for me. BUT I still have a collection of stems. I bet the seat post is proprietary too - crazy.
That is why I build all my on bikes. I purchase the frame and build from there. My own crank length, cockpit etc. At that price, these companies should offer a swap. It makes Zero sense to me how they can sell a complete bike with the size of cockpit they feel like putting on the bike. Those water bottle cages are ridiculous. These companies are getting out of hand with their proprietary stuff. Now water bottles!!?? Geez. We can definitely throw a fit. At $10K....these bike companies MUST do better.
Canyon should sell the "drop extensions" (or whatever they are called) with different lengths of forward rake, so you could effectively lengthen the cockpit without the need to replace the stem. Not sure how the strength would be affected, and the "tops" position wouldn't move, but I think it could be a reasonable solution that solves at least some of the concerns. Overall, I think the concept of a semi modular integrated cockpit is worth pursuing, and although it's probably easier to just replace the stem for the pros who get paid to race the bike - it's rather insulting to the customer base to pay the exorbitant MSRP for a bike that is nearly impossible to get a proper fit without spending another chunk of change.
Been trusting your review since Bikeradar days and I thoroughly enjoy your thoughts on bikes and gear, but I feel there's simply too many commercials in this video. I know I know, it's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations, since you need the commercials to keep afloat, but it does spoil the video to a degree. Hopefully you can cut down on the number of commercials in the future.
Random question: When did the white helmet trend start? Everybody has a white helmet now. Also ive been seeing a lot of giro aries. In white of course. Pretty cool that visma lease a bike is using it.
Hey Ben, any thoughts on similarities between this bike and the new Endurace? The Aeroad is not the bike for me (too long and low), but I wonder if the new Endurace has the same handlebar options? Anything else? Thanks and enjoy YOUR ride!
The advantage of direct to consumer beyond price should be the ability to get the correct size components. Stem length, bar width & ideally crank length opinions would make sense. Instead, it seems you automatically have the possibility of a £400 additional payment just for the cockpit.
From a logistics point of view direct to consumer doesn't change a thing. It's just to get more money in their pockets. Bikes are still mass-produced, boxed and shipped to a warehouse. The difference is that with normal brands the warehouse stock is sent to dealers, and here it's sent directly to customers. Allowing custom parts would require them to have someone open those boxes and replace parts, before shipping = costing them more money, so they make it a customer problem. At least in a bike shop you can negotiate this and they might even have some spares in stock.
@irfuel Canyon have a rather large assembly production line in Germany. Quest Composites just end them the frames, fork & bars & they are built up in Germany. But agree it's all £€$€ by standarding part sizes then forcing you to buy the correct size proprietary cockpit parts if you can source them.
Hey Ben great review as always. Seems a super cool bike. Bike fit alert. Brace yourself I think this bike should work well from a fit perspective given the adjustable handle bars and a 10cm stem sorry Ben. However it depends on the handle bar reach…. I’m bound to see one in my fit studio soon👀 I’d guess around 80mm? I agree with you longer stem options and seat widths 145 through 155 would suit more buyers out of the box so to speak and would save changes on purchase perhaps.
Ben, do you think you could get some Rene Herse 44mm Snoqualmie Pass slicks in Endurance casing and give them a test? And or the 38mm Barlow Pass in Endurance casing? REALLY would like your opinion and assessment of the performance for all around selection.
I should probably give Rene Herse another go. At an Argonaut launch a couple years ago we had like a dozen flats in a day in a small group on Hurricane Ridge tires. Not the Endurance casing, but still - left me less than impressed with them. I know some folks love the suppleness, but I as of now am not a fan.
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney I fully understand your position, I tried the standard casing in the 38's and it was a pain, but the endurance casing is so much better, minimal air loss and seems very tough, and still rolls very well. would love your opinion!!
What's the fork rake and headset bearing size? Ie, how hard would it be to use a standard fork of some type with a standard stem and handlebar. The 2XL is just about the right size for me if I got a very negative stem and the rest of the geometry looks pretty good honestly.
Just checked their site and they have up to 140mm stems available! Unfortunately they dont work with older model forks. This is the only thing keeping me from buying a canyon, they suggest a size small for me and even if i har a medium id need at least 130mm stem for my fit. The sm and med. come w 90 & 100mm stem respectively. Def not geared toward "pros"
Im thinking about gettting an aeroad slx 7, I currently own a entry level endurance bike (cube attain pro). Can you feel the difference of an aero bike? Will it help me performe in my cat D races? Not looking for huge watts savings and I know the rider makes up the vast majority of the drag and the watts, but is there a feel or even a performance benefit or would it be a waste of money?
Canyon refused to let me friend buy headset bearings for his Ultimate - because.... he is not the original owner of the bike. This Aeroad frame looks good. The problem is other stuff. The one-stem-fits-all sales method is insulting to their customers. One thing they could do is sell those handlebar pieces with different shapes to extend the reach - so that someone needing a longer reach would only need to change those. (and actually they could pretty easily do it at the Canyon warehouse because those can be changed later - after the bike has been fully assembled - just before shipping), But... do they bother doing that? .... And then they sell the bike with bottle cages built to only hold special Canyon extra large diameter round bottles - extra un-aero bottles... But they base their aero claims off tests done with no bottles/cages. It's getting funny now. IDK if I've ever seen a bike company so ... passive aggressive against their own customers
@@nickbuYes, they sell them online, but they refuse to sell/ship them to some customers. Perhaps they are weird with customers in certain parts of the world. My friend doesn't live in Europe or the US.
Mate nobody is talking about efective stack and efective reach against old model.can you tell me that?i think it is 1cm lower so more agresive possition.is it true?
I think the hurdle for Canyon - at least in the US - is that they receive complete bikes in the box that they warehouse and then ship out when sold. Still, they could make that swap without too much labor.
@@Timmeh2Buck Good idea. We can go even further. They should be shipped from the factory to the dealer without stems/bars and the dealer should receive a separate stock of stems and bars. That way they can sell you a bike with the right stem/bar dimensions, and you install your saddle and pedals.
Bikes don't NEED headset bearings! It's not like we turn 90 or 108 degrees. We're not spinning downhill on the handlebars. You could run a polyurethane bushing, or something simpler & less expensive than bearings.
Do you think the CF SLX would be as good? I'm not concerned about weight. What bothers me is their offerings. I want the SRAM force with powermeter for easier repairability without wires but I don't want the zipp hookless wheels. If I were to buy the SRAM version, I would be paying for a wheelset that is basically unsellable. But I don't want to have to figure out a PM for the Ultegra Di2 version that comes with dt swiss wheels. Sorta frustrating. Wish they sold just the frame. It was sus figuring out which model is the latest on their website.
I think that without putting the CF and CFR frames on a scale, you'd have a really hard time differentiating between the two. Now, I say that not having ridden the new CF - but having ridden a number of models of other bikes. Typically, the stiffness/deflection targets are the same; you're just looking at a little bit more material in the less expensive ones. The Ultegra Di2 comes comes with a 4iiii meter.
CF SLX is apparently better for average riders as you get less stiffness (which you don't need if you can't sprint 1500+W) and a bit more comfort. BTW there is nothing wrong with those wheels. I run them on my Foil without issues.
If I can’t ride a standard bar stem combo I’m not buying the bike. I don’t care how fast or clean the bike looks. The bike needs to fit the rider and not the other way around. It should be cheap and easy to play with different bar widths and lengths of stems.
The system they've made is so complicated that Canyon won't make any stem change for customers buying these bikes. Even a $10,000 bike is one-stem-fits-all, take it or leave it. They lose a LOT of sales over it If i remember right, Giant did make a good design on the current Propel. Probably for the new TCR as well.
I messaged canyon to ask if the aero drops would fit in the CP0018 cockpit (2024 endurace SLX aero), and didn’t get a reply yet. Wondering if anyone has a guess or access to try? They look similar. I’d buy a set if they fit.
6ft/183 and medium. I am usually on the cusp between 56 and 58 (or M and L here), but as I said in the video I usually go smaller and longer. Looking at Canyon’s site I am happy to see that their Large now comes with 172.5 cranks, so I might go up next time.
They used to be cheaper, but you know, got to pay those Fabio Wibmers, Mathieu VDP's and the 10000 other athletes/influencers they sponsor. Their marketing budget must be insane.
MVdP will be forced to win a prestigious race on that and beat Pogacar in the same race to confirm your theory. Otherwise first prize will have to be handed over to Colnago at the moment. It's results that count, not a POV.
Be careful when buying by Canyon. They have lousy after sales service. They refuse to sell a major structural component of the bike like a fork, right after the 3 year replacement service is over, arguing that they have a lack of spare parts. How is it possible not to have a stock of spare parts, right after 3 years?
It's kind of annoying that bikes are almost always tested without water bottles...unless it's a bike with proprietary aero water bottles. Nobody rides a $10k+ aero bike without at least one water bottle.
They're tested with whatever is convenient for the marketing department in that moment, but many (most) are designed with bottles in mind, including my 2015 Cervelo S3 so the idea of designing for (round) bottles is not new.
My guess is they know everybody is going to swap the saddle so they pick the narrowest, lightest saddle they can to keep their weight figures down for marketing purposes.
@@edrcozonoking Physical size doesn't determine the width of the sitbones, paradoxically enough. There are tiny people on 168mm seats, and tree trunk folks sitting on 130mm seats. How far you roll your pelvis / aggressive your position is also matters.
Every bloody brand claims to have the fastest bike, but the fastest bike is the bike you own! Spend a fraction of the cost on a training plan, put in the time and effort, and you will be a faster and better cyclist overall!
Admittedly, I'm not going to watch this video, because if I watch one more video where someone is purposely fooling others into thinking that if they just spend $10-14K they'll be so much faster, I'm going to puke. The fastest bike in the peloton is whatever Pogacar is riding, because he's Pogacar. If you buy this bike, you're still going to be you and you won't be any faster than you are on your $1,500 bike. Hate to break it to you, but you can't buy it, you have to earn it.
Sans parler du très mauvais SAV que je constate depuis quelques mois, sans être le seul. Honteux et aucune réponse de leur part aux manquements constatés qui auraient pu avoir des conséquences désastreuses. Excellente marque >< SAV horrible et cher.
This is the bike that Mathieu van der Poel (and other pros) had the handlebars break in races. It was so bad that Canyon had to issue a 'Stop Ride' to all users to halt the carnage.
16:41 did i read it right, 46 front shifts in one ride? either you were testing sram’s chain drop theory, or you need a different cassette. i run 33 front, 36 rear, i only shift front when it’s above 10% gradient, so i basically don’t shift front. part of the reason is that i don’t want to stop and re-hook the chain. but 46 shifts are beyond my comprehension……
