The Fatal Flaw - Chris Allen - BBC Saturday Night Theatre 

Down to half an hour now!

You voice my opinion,hardly even listen to radio four now after a lifetime of dawn to dusk enjoyable listening.Little to enjoy now.

Said this so many times, there are so many plays in the archive. 1000s just sitting doing nothing. It is sad waste.

Your comment has made me decide to listen for the first time.

@@avisjohnson6185 you won't be disappointed.

I've listened to this one more than I have any of the others and it never gets old...I still love it Signed Victor - the giraffe 🦒

If you listen to the play you'll find that very apposite !

Thanks! This sounds good!

Nice descriptive synopsis from a Maestro...😉

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@@tottiemae2258 ( Maureen ) good morning Tottie it’s a lovely morning here in the Ch. Maritime I hope it’s the same for you in Arizona ,and thank you .

@@hectorbrown656 Yes, it's bright and beautiful here. It's supposed to be in the mid-70s, our Spring. Hope you've had a happy day, Maureen!

It's always been that way. I have to admit I couldn't listen to the whole thing. The writer seem a bit dim (I won't say why due to spoilers.) The reality is if people didn't like what was being offered they wouldn't buy it. Publisher is a business there to make money off that.

No, the guy's problem was not just society. It was his unrelentingly negative attitude, which he told himself and others was his elevated literary ideals. Every time someone says something positive to him, he interrupts to contradict them. I'm only 25 minutes in, and I assume that he's going to turn it around (for good or ill), but his agent, Ms. Shapiro, is telling him of an idea that he doesn't have to turn into a Tom Robbins blockbuster. He can make it a modern Dickens-level blockbuster by combining her insights with his literary skill (assuming he has as much as he insists he has). But I'm guessing he won't. He doesn't really have a strong mind of his own.

Unfortunately the majority seems to like it that way. That’s why comic book heroes and transformers make so much money for the studios. I love independent films myself.

.....yes, but this play asks; What is the 'real story'?

@@Cheepchipsable I just wonder how much of the play you did actually listen too. The character of the writer isn't dim at all. He has principles, knows about the subject he's writing and has integrity. He soon discovers that the publisher is totally unscrupulous and is more concerned about manipulating the situation for her own needs, rather than treating the author with any respect for his creative content.

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Ah...I like that angle! Maybe they could do a bit of a re-write on this and suggest---I don't know, just spit-balling here---some hints of strange charts on Shapiro's desk. And some sexy parties that he winds up attending that take place in some "hip" bit obscure part of town, in a series of sub-sub-basements. where there's more than a mere hint that there are deep dark deals being made with power-brokers from around the world, all involved in entertainment, and hint of...."rituals"?? A mysterious stranger dressed in red?----But maybe that's too on the nose?

I've gone thru this sort of thing, tho in not as Faustian a way, but with some of the same principles involved. And I know others who have been thru that same kind of "mill".

@@RSEFX It still happens. The music industry is rife with this.

The BBC can’t spend licence payers money on producing quality radio dramas and pay grotesque 000,000 £ salaries to so called football pundits for sitting on their backsides sprouting their rubbish every week and making statements about matters they obviously don’t really understand.

My own modest opinion id-excellent! Any British drama-mysteries best! More avail. pls.

Thank you so much for this very clever story. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Loved it. Especially enjoyed the overbearing editor.

I love them to

Poor Jenny

yes.....I actually got a bad feeling after that and I could guess the rest and just couldn't go on.... Reminds me of some Evelyn Waugh stories, esp Handful of Dust..... UGH..... good writing but a bummer of an ending.

Yes well it's good the publishers don't want to be propaganda tools for racists and misogynists ..shows things may be changing slowly. It must be very scary for the poor fragile reactionary types having their worldview critiqued and perceived as 'uncool' by the younger generations. These "Anti-wokers" are so frightened they refer to people generally left of centre as the 'elite' and suchlike to try to put people off ideas of just being generally respectful to each other in terms of race, gender sex, sexuality, and co-operation instead of conflict.

If we are for freedom of private enterprise, we have no grounds to oppose the right of publishers to publish only what they believe to be true or helpful for their public.

They are usually between an hour or an hour and a half. The time shows up on all my uploads.🥀🥀

Oh put yourself out and look up the dates if you are interested.

@@vespadavidson2315 I do. As I said. The point remains valid, as it's easy for the uploader to add the date to their introductory words. A lot of listeners would appreciate it.

@@robwilde855 Point was never valid. Try and wipe your own ass. Edit; due to complaints, if the word ass, or the idea of wiping ones own, offends you, then substitute the words bottom and bidet. Also consider looking up the use of metaphors, for linguistic effect.

@@vespadavidson2315 so enlightening to spew your hate and vitriol on the interwebz, innit?

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Because he's used to producing trash.

He's just trying not to get lost and give away his soul. Probably should've realized that he'd already sold that part of himself and it was useless to struggle. Take the money and run, then go off and ----with money to support his true interests---write what he truly believes and is interested in.... But then....no drama. No story. Blah.

It’s unbelievable how they think they can use an Australian accent and pass it off as a NewZealand one. Shoddy work really 🧐

@@AllyPerrott I remember the QI joke,, graffiti seen on a London wall- Australia 6, New Zealand 7 (spoken in a Kiwi accent.)

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@@AllyPerrott And the Scots accent/posh English one are totally rubbish too

I don't understand why you think the title 'The Fatal Flaw' is "too British"? The whole premise of the story is that the male side of the family has a kink/flaw which induces them into murder. The Fatal Flaw describes the key element of the book, the word fatalities doesn't. For info, the current top 20 best selling books of all time don't have one word titles. In fact the majority of the most sold books generally have a range from four to eight words, so simplfying titles doesn't guarantee success. In fact, Dean Koontz only started to use one word titles after his earlier successes which weren't one word titles like 'Demon Seed' etc, which probably suggests his later book sales were based on his reputation rather than a one word title of his books.

@@fplspartans I get your point. My own personal opinion is just that and, perhaps, was not worth putting forth here. But, having done that, I think I should make what I said a tad clearer (omg, here he goes again! ;-7): I feel that the victim are not only those who are killed, but the family is a fatal victim to its own intrinsic "flaw" (as in the old phrase "they were their own worst enemy") so the title FATALITIES would suggest the sum of all those affected , A toll is taken all around. Well, maybe that was already clear from my previous (picky, I guess) comment. I mean, THE FATAL FLAW is a very appropriate title, but just seemed (to my own taste) a little "explain-y" rather than evocative. You may very well be right re why Koontz shifted to the one-word title deal. In general, it is a style that is admittedly in vogue/has been for quite a few decades (and who knows?---maybe it'll be the very thing that will come across as "old fashioned"/dated years down the line). I don't know what span of time the 20 most popular books covers: On an average over a long enough period of time, the one-word title may lose out to other, longer, more classic titles when averaged out, but might be more dominant if the survey covered a shorter, and more recent span only. But...now I'm just spinning my wheels over something ---a level of pickiness---that I'm getting really irritated at myself for having blabbed on and on so long about!! One needs to slap one's self sometimes from bouts of "over-think"----perhaps it's my own personal "fatal flaw"! (And I'll just tell myself it's the coffee---and a certain amount of procrastination---that's actually talking!) Good wishes. :-)

@@RSEFX it's the writers first book so he doesn't have a legend hence why a one word title wouldn't really describe anything. JK Rowling's first Harry Potter book wasn't just called 'Harry' or 'Potter'. Also from an unknown author 'Fatalities' could be just an encyclopedia of major road traffic accidents during the year. You need a hook and a title that kinda describes more the theme of the book. With an established author, the title could be anything, as people will say 'must get the latest Koontz novel, what's it called...'Seaweed'...oh well it's bound to be good ☺️

@@fplspartans In the end, I just think a more evocative title would help. The story is so much better than the title right now (obviously just a personal opinion), and the term "fatal flaw" is---again I emphasize TO ME----just an overly-familiar term that doesn't evoke, doesn't spark anything, just kinda sits there (in spite of it being very appropriate), and comes with no cache, no energy, no "grab". So, let's say FATALITIES is terrible too, or worse. Ok, it stinks. But I think sumptin''s gotta be better out there in title-grab-ass land.... Anyway, thanks for the back and forth. it has me re-thinking what I was thinking. (BUT....gotta get off here as now my own project is calling, asking, BEGGING for a few good ideas for my own, er, good.)