my friend's little sister did not survive this era, she unfortunately died by sui*ide around age 18-19 in 2014. her tumblr was filled with body dysmorphia, depression/SH, and pro-ana aspirational content, and she even wrote a short, vague final post about figuring out how she'd do "it". I reeeallly hope this type of content doesn't come back the same way it did back then.
if they do we just have to no that everyone has different body types even if u work out and eat healthy and we just have to know that people dont look look super skinny in 2 days and if u wanna be skinny do it in a heathy way
Aw, this was my era, too. I went from 2012-2013 hipster to 2014 girly Victoria Secret aesthetic to 2015-2016 tumblr grunge. The 20teenagers was a wild decade.
thank you so much for this video. I'm 24 and 2013-2016 Tumblr had such an impact on my psyche back in the day. I'll never forget the black and white depressed gifs, the ED focused blogs and pictures of s*lf-h*rm. Being a very fragile and sensitive teen, I absorbed all of this content and I only now realize how much it messed me up. To this day, I still catch myself having the same intrusive thoughts that I had when I was 14. I'm still thankful for the education that Tumblr brought me on topics such as lgbtq+ struggles and racism but damn, that website was really toxic. People reading this comment : please don't subject yourselves to the content that Tumblr offered during this era. it was very damaging to many, and can still be.
i completely relate! i'm also very grateful for tumblr bc it taught me a lot of important info about racism, gender, class, sexuality, etc., but i also can't forget the immense amount of toxicity that was *so* normalized on there. i'm sorry you had to experience the negative sides of 2010s tumblr, but i'm glad you've realized how horrible and toxic the behaviors and actions on there are! sending you so much love!!
I'm 25 now and have experienced the same things and feelings and thoughts as you described. I'm not even from America, so Tumblr wasn't really that popular back then in my country, but nonetheless it had such a big and destroying impact on my mental health. So grateful for people like Jessica nowadays. To have something/someone on "the other side" of the diet/ed-culture helps A LOT. I really think, that if body neutrality/positivity had been a thing in the early 2010s, I wouldn't have developed such a big ed and other mental illnesses or at least they wouldn't have been so bad. I spent all the years from 10yo to 21yo battling those. Only now, roughly 4 years, I can enjoy life and myself. What a wasted amount of time and childhood. Makes me so angry, that this culture made such a huge impact... Thank you Jessica for this video ☀️
I went through such a similar thing! It's so crazy to think about how formative those years were when it just felt like participating in social media, the way people do with TikTok and Instagram now. What's even harder for me to think about is that these same things are being praised and put on TikTok! Like when will it end! I think what you said applies to "new" social media too. So much valuable information exchanged and news about world events make these platforms so good! But there's also still so much harm on them!
Hey girl. As a bigger girls myself and someone who was on tumblr at the time of these trends I appreciate you covering this because it has always felt like I couldn’t participate in them. You’re the first person that I see (and can relate to) that is covering this in a way that makes me feel seen and validated. Thank you so much. Stay healthy and happy !!!
This brought back a lot. I am Brazilian and I learned English mostly through Tumblr, so that was nice. But the bad thing was that I was 11 when I started to have some disordered eating and short after I started using Tumblr. I definitely absorbed the "thinspo" thing without fully realising. I actually got really skinny at the time but it was never enough. And now I'm 23, overweight, and still trying to have a good relationship with food.
I know your comment is a year old, but I'm also "overweight" according to the BMI (140lbs and 5'3) but I literally don't look like I weigh that much bc I'm also working out 5 times a week, so most of it is muscle mass and its predisposed really good (most of it is in my legs, butt, boobs and even back and shoulders) while my belly is flat, hell I wouldn't even describe myself as "curvy" more like slim or normal. I'm writing this bc I also used to lurk endlessly on those sites and starve myself and I used to weigh only 90lbs at some point, and rn I actually look skinnier than before, even at 50lbs heavier. I'm writing this bc I only wish I had started weight lifting as a teen, because i'd not only look better and slimmer than I did at 90lbs, but also I'll get to eat a lot of food as well. plus being healthy and strong. honestly, we needed to popularise weight lifting for women ages ago.
I'm 17 so i was just a kid during that era, but i can definitely see us following the same path on tiktok. I notice that black and brown features are already getting "out of fashion", and with them the acceptance of slightly thicker and curvy bodies. I personally really love the tiktok coquette aesthetic with its cute and feminine clothes, but i just can't ignore how most people taking part in it are just, again, skinny white girls romanticizing kate moss (i literally saw people citing that disgusting prhase), being pale and blonde and buying brandy melville. I can't even bring myself to express how much i hate brandy and their overpriced clothes. I'm really convinced people buy it for the exclusivity because in no way i would pay those kind of prices for such basic clothes that can be found for way cheaper while keeping the same quality and (lack of) sustainability. Thankfully some people are trying to bring inclusivity for poc but the aesthetic keeps staying overstaturated with thin white girls. This is just one of the many examples i could make. And if i have to be completely honest, having a thigh gap never really went out of style, especially in alternative communities. The situation already sucks for us fat people and i'm not ready for it to become even worse. I'll close this huge comment by saying that i loved the video and your content in general helps me a lot. Also,your style is amazing
i think many things that are trendy rn really have some kind of european or white american influence/aesthetic, so yeah.. a few months ago i saw a video from kiera breaugh where she was talking abt the kardashians and how they were dating now white guys and not really appropriating elements of black culture and enhancing a curvy body, and for me, that really shows thats white culture is really trendy in media again (like it always was)
@@tonyhawksmovingcastle9697 i saw that video too! Seeing how white aesthetics and (extra) thinness are becoming mainstream again really tells a lot about the correlation between anti-blackness and fatphobia. The focus has always been on white people, the only difference is that the fetishization people of color went through these years may get completely replaced by openly hating those same features and styles that went viral.
Tik tok's wongyoungism trend that has popped up recently literally sent me into a spiral that could have possibly given me a full blown eating disorder if it weren't for my boyfriend caring about my health within less than 5 months. Honestly its still affecting me and its genuinely up to me to stop it from getting worse and thats hard 😭 And tumblr is still going strong with the horrible stuff haha
I was 11 when I first was on Tumblr. I havent recovered from disordered eating yet. My hair fell I had SEVERE anaemia and was severe malnourished. I still dont know how I look, and I think I never will. Its so important to keep an eye on what your children is accessing online
Ilysm 💖 Pro a n a totally messed me up, glad to have made it out the other side and I'm super happy there's a big body positive movement online now. You're amazing
I am with you when you say that you don’t feel like participating. I was struggling with an eating disorder when I was a teen back at that time… and I have the resources to bring the styles and looks back for myself and “reclaim it” but to me personally… I wanna reclaim that time with fresh new looks that don’t remind me of how shitty I used to feel not having a thigh gap or a flat stomach. Idk those times for me were tough to live through, and it didn’t help that I would get picked on for being overweight. That being said thank you for bringing light to these topics. I feel like this should be talked about more.
Hello, thanks you so much for this video !! Do you think Pinterest is in a way a form of extension of Tumblr ? Like a more modern version of it? As a website also promoting strong different aesthetic, like "the dark Academia" and so on... I was thinking about it . ..
oh definitely!! jordan theresa and ariel mckenna have great videos about pinterest/fatphobia & racism/aesthetics in general and how exclusive they are. i def recommend checking them out!
Also important to note - 2010s “grunge” is not actually grunge. Grunge is a music genre and culture of the 80s and 90s. Grunge had a completely different aesthetic and style than tumblr grunge.
I know this has nothing to do with anything but I absolutely love your makeup! I've been wanting to try colors that aren't browns and beiges as of late and you are one of my inspirations!!
I think its important to mention that pro-ana isn’t JUST “promoting anorexia,” but could be the term used for people with eating disorders who are struggling to/not ready to recover and just wanting a support group. Not everyone is on a recovery journey, but also not in the early stages of loving their ED; some people are just genuinely stuck in the misery of it. They want places to talk that isn’t either blatant promotion or toxic positivity. So not all pro ana is bad. The problem arises when these places become accessible to everyone, even children, who might curiosity-click into the worst decision of their life. Back in the 2000s they had locked forums, now it’s all over tiktok and impossible to mediate
I finished high school in 2012, and i was severely underweight at about 94lbs due to being on adhd meds that messed up my appetite, plus being on weapon line a Scholastic A level Color guard team. I was too thin even by popular standards and people would call me a skeleton. it sucked and my friends were understandably concerned for me. I remember that boho chic festival style was what all the popular girls wore. I remember wearing tank tops with large holes with bandeaus or sports bras! Oh and those tight mini skirts (that were not tight enough for me). the crop tops and skater skirts came into popularity when i was in college. Also brandy melville is an asshole brand because its "One size fits small"
I've been fat since I was a teen and have had tumblr for almost 10 years. As a teen with an awful body image I wanted to look like Taylor Momsen. I wandered into the ed/selfharm side of tumblr and twitter and I'm so glad I never really developed an eating disorder.
Thank you for the history video I was interested in that topic because something is happening in male circles with recent increase of steroid use and ED, looksmaxxing
TikTok is basically the 2024 version of tumbler at this point. It’s basically just teens showing of pictures of SH for attention (not saying SH is just for attention I literally struggle with it myself) and trauma dumping about su*cide & r*pe and child ab*se while doing a cutie little trendy dance with it wtf it’s terrible! I don’t use TikTok for this reason but I’ve recently started posting on RU-vid mostly reborn & food review videos I’d really appreciate it if you’d check them out thx u!😊
I'm so glad you bought up that skinnyphobia and fatphobia is not the same. Like bullying people on account of their weight is not okay regardless but skinnyphobia does not have the same historical contexts of racism nor is it as ingrained in our culture.
Taylor Swift herself has opened up about how she had an eating disorder and sometimes refers to it in her songs. “I hosted parties and starved my body.” From you’re own your own kid. People would see photos of her back in like 2014 and say that she looked pregnant because she had a bit of stomach sticking out, and it caused her to have an eating disorder while she was on tour. She said that at times, she felt like she would just collapse on stage, but thankfully she never did. She thankfully recovered from her eating disorder and gained a healthy amount of weight in 2017. She’s still skinny, but not the skinny she was before.
this means so much to me and i think this is perfect time to talk about it. in 2010 I was 10 years old I am a child of a mother who is 6 ft tall and then the rest of my family are overweight It's just the thing that people in ohio are used to. its the norm. not that it means anything but I am one of the smallest of my family and I tried really hard to get there. but I was an impressionable child during this time only seeing really skinny girls, pale as can be where I was 5'7 and 5th grade, and when freshman year hit I was 200 pounds, I am very tan I will never be white as snow, even if my family members can be. I always long to look like these skinny girls to be tiny in another person's arms to smoke cigarettes and look cool like them. now I'm 21 no longer 200 lb and once again about 12 years later, the emo cigarette smoking girl aesthetic has flooded my Instagram again. Yes I could look away and just not click on it but it is pleasing to my eyes but the 13-year-old who wants to be these girls is still inside of me, I'm not fully grown yet so hopefully in a couple years maybe I will not long for a body that I will never have. but someone who is as beautiful as you and their weight has fluctuated but their beauty has not I think it's really important that you talk about this right now.
Just be your best self that’s all you can be. 🧡 And smoking is very much not cool- they won’t look so cool when they look like an old leather handbag at 40 years old!
if you’re okay with plus size stores you have to be okay with brandy 💀 that’s the only store I can think of that are only from thin people, but plus size people, there’s dozens.
i was born in 94, so i lived my pre teen years with the "heroin chic" trend and then all of my teen years and early 20s with "thigh gap" tumblr culture. Lets just say that i'm 29 now and dealing with severe body dysmorphia and ED. I'm okay now because i'm very much aware of it and in therapy, but boy has it been a struggle
I wish people would stop grouping racism in with fat-phobia. Black people are not inherently fat, and most of us outside of America are thin. Even before the 70’s, black Americans were thin
From what I know, it's not about black people actually being fat. It's about society playing black women up as tending to be curvier (more likely than white women to have big butts in proportion whether they're actually fat or not), which is less based on current accuracy than encounters hundreds of years ago with African cultures that prized fatness eventually leading to the white supremacist desire to play black women up as hypersexualised and white women as delicate little flowers. If society pretends we're more different than we are, that's easier.
White american leftists treat poc in the US like small fragile pets that need their voices while being a complete racist to them and pushing false black narratives.
@@tsumugishirogane7625 That's literally not what's being said. If you don't know what she's referencing, you should look it up instead of making assumptions.
I was a teenager at that era and I remember that everyone was obsessed with thigh gaps. I also had one but I was sick at that time, that's why I was under 45 kg. So everyone was adoring my sickness basically
i don't think i ever followed her so luckily i never actually saw those ads, but it's interesting that those ads are the reason why her tumblr page got removed
I was too old for this era but teenage me (back in the real grunge era of Nirvana, Babes in Toyland, and goth bands like Sisters of Mercy and The Jesus and Mary Chain) would have absolutely been at home there and it probably would have been very dangerous for me given how severe my Body Dysmorphia was (and most of us who get there know exactly how we got there, ie trauma and not belonging or feeling at home even in our own bodies.) On the other hand I probably would have felt a little less isolated in some spaces too - I’m naturally a writer, not a talker, and god forbid you make a point on RU-vid that’s longer than two sentences max without the trolls out just to tell you they couldn’t be bothered to read it. I’ve heard people from the original pro a n a days say that while the content was toxic in terms of goal sharing etc, it was also the only space people felt safe to actually spill how they were really thinking every day, and felt able to open up about things they could never tell anyone else (it’s one of the most secret-driven addictions/imbalances there is, and it’s very hard to even explain the mindset to a professional.) So some people do say they wouldn’t have survived without those spaces. Back in the pre-internet, heroin chic early 90s, the ideal body being emaciated and then the further pressure of breast implants, that weren’t yet popular or licensed for the average British person, on shows like Baywatch, meant that you were already beaten no matter how thin you were. You had to have virtually no signs of puberty apart from naturally huge football sized whoppers. The attitude of many men in the era before consent and age appropriate relationships became a discussion, was terrifyingly exacting (bearing in mind that the cooler older guys of the 90s grew up getting their kicks from what I think was a demonic social experiment back in the 70s and 80s of sexualising prepubescents like Jennifer Connelly, Brooke Shields and many more (this was pre-school uniform Britney by a long way.) I don’t know what it’s like for kids now, but back then it was normal to have gangs of guys dissecting the attributes of your body and either tapping into or creating your deepest insecurities when you were just 11, while you almost had a panic attack walking past them or trying to get into a shop in your school uniform. So, all I’m saying is that a lot of my history at almost twice your age definitely set the stage for Tumblr girl. Tumblr Girl was the composite of all the impossible ideals of the 90s and noughties in one hauntingly beautiful, self destructive package. Even I feel triggered by some of those pictures in a sense of still wanting to be that girl (the 90s aesthetic of high fashion body meets alternative/quirky was absolutely the hottest thing back then too.) I’m overweight now for the first time in my life due to various health issues and it reminds me how much I hated myself and never ever felt enough even when I actually did look like that. I never appreciated it and there was always more I thought I needed to be. When you get older you realise that actually if you’re truly sexy/charismatic/intelligent, you’ll be all that no matter how old or what size or even how physically able bodied you are. When you set yourself free of all the bs you’ll find you’ve never been more attractive to the right people, and never been so self assured. It’s just sad that we still haven’t evolved biologically to be allowed to have that wisdom in our teens and 20s, for our own survival - we always have to learn the hard way it seems (or at least some of us do.) To anyone struggling with body image issues, I want you to know that even though the words “self love” sound like Swahili when you’ve no idea what it looks like, when you get there and truly don’t care what anyone thinks of you, it’s the most liberating time of our lives as humans on a very messed up planet. Whoever is reading this, thank you for reading to the end and cliched as it sounds, you are absolutely beautiful and already whole in your own unique way. When you believe it, toxic friendships, relationships and self talk will be a thing of the past. I hope you get there a lot sooner than I did.
I developed an ED age 11 in 2010 which i am still dealing with now at 23. lol the hold thigh gaps had on me (even at my lowest weight i only had a slight thigh gap bc bone structure) . I was only slightly chubby as well but i vividly remember feeling like i was huge and felt like i couldn't be into goth fashion unless i was thin bc otherwise i'll be seen as cringey and would be bullied more than i already was at the time. Obviously other factors played into me developing an ED but the tumblr girl aesthetics definitely fuelled it , like even RU-vid compilations of Nu goth fashion all had one particular body type (same with fitspo).
I never thought about how those “what I eat in a day” videos where covertly promoting disordered eating until you brought it up here. Such an insightful and well thought-out video!
Hello, Although my body has changed over the years my confidence has not. It’s only now in my 30s that content creators like you that are helping me increase my self esteem and confidence. - I was also bullied really hard on tumblr including hacking and changing my profile blogs to say really mean stuff against myself. I appreciate you bring validation to these “trends” and what happened at the time. I was a senior in high school and a freshmen in college at the time you’re talking about. I went through a lot. I’ll spare the details but, this Vlog It’s healing parts of me that I didn’t think were ever going to change or stop hurting. Thank you. ❤
This era of tumblr was around the exact same time I began to struggle with an eating disorder. Looking back it seems like everything I was into at the time had this same emphasis on thinness. Alt fashion, "kawaii" fashion, anime, manga, video games, movies, tv, Pixar - you name it, there were no representations of average or fat bodies, much less positive representations anywhere. I remember being 15 and watching Steven Universe for the first time, seeing all the body types represented in that show, going on tumblr and seeing lovely fan artists do amazing things with these characters, taking the proportions of fat bodies even further with realism or just drawing them in their own styles. Normalizing this stuff. I had never seen anything like it before.
wow I had no idea about brandy melville's sizing. I work at a consignment store listing inventory and thought it was a weird coincidence that their stuff never has size labels and I have to measure it before I put it out. that's WILD. on a side note, I worked at hot topic in the 2010s, and found out we were partner stores with torrid. we used to get so much cute plus size goth/pop culture stuff and it made me so happy to see people finding stuff in their actual size. like I'll always ride for hot topic for that alone
My experience with tumblr in the 2010s was basically the opposite--tumblr was a place I (and many others) knew for championing controversial ideas like HAES, fat acceptance, etc from as early as 2013. Just goes to show how many different experiences people can have on one website. I think it's really important to deconstruct how these platforms can be used to uphold certain toxic beauty standards--I think I'm around 10 years older than you and the early 2010s were rough but nothing to me compared with the early 2000s. It's really sad that so many ideas haven't gone away, just been repurposed to appear in different places every few years. I knew when I was active on tumblr that a pro-ED side existed but chose to avoid it at all costs. When I saw that my ex was following and reblogging from pro-ED accounts after her supposed recovery and all the hell she put me through re: projecting her criticism onto my body, it triggered the hell out of me and I had to block her. I can't definitely tell who of my friends were hanging out on ED tumblr and who were plugged into fat acceptance social justice.
I used tumblr briefly during that time period and my experience was similar to yours. I think maybe it was because the FA movement made me aware of tumblr rather than the other way around. The pro-ED stuff was definitely abundant, but fortunately, I was an adult coming onto to the platform with my own idea of what I wanted to see already. I don't know that it would have been the same for me if I'd been much younger and didn't already have FA and fashion accounts in mind that I wanted to follow.
I think I know those pro-ED people you are talking about. I do not want to say her name, but she was goth/witchy. The comments on the video blow my mind. Haha. I already had basically quit Tumblr by 2014. I think my experience is more similar to what you are talking about. My friends joked I was the queen of England (I'm American). I flew there at 18 in 2012 for Tumblr meetups, birthday parties, etc. The biggest influencer everyone would know is jamjars. 2010-2012. A lot of us were trying to recreate Skins. I guess that was our version of influencers. With all respect, the newer generations would not last a chance. There was a different level of respect. You do not see it these days. We just wrote about/treated each other differently... back then. But we were somehow still brutal as fuck.
Same, like people forget that Tumblr is user curated and not algorithm curated, so you look for pro ED stuff you're going to get pro ED stuff. That said I really hate how the body positivity movement has turned into enabling people with EDs bc they're fat and not skinny, which honestly is fatphobic in itself
this type of person takes things like this as personal attacks though. To normal people, it’s not targeting their weight, but to them, that’s all that they think others criticize them for, instead of their irritating personalities ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
when i was at the height of my ed (also splat in the middle of quarantine) i accidentally came across calorie restriction yt and it was something that roped me in so much and i took some of the stuff they did as advice even though i knew it was bad and even the people posting these video would usually say that “this video is a personal journal entry and not glorifying ed’s” (i think it’s a little strange though)
I went away after watching this video thinking 1, how strange it was that you said the demographic was that young given I was like 19-20 at the that time and most users on tumblr I knew were students like me around the same age, and 2. That while Tumblr certainty had a "thinsperation" aesthetic issue and un underbelly of eating disorders somehow I had not encountered it much myself. HOWEVER that lead to my realization.. There were users that young and on platform somewhere, and those toxic ass blogs were the things THEY were seeing. The youngest most vulnerable people on that site were the ones being bombarded with this awful thinspo, self harm and fatphobic shit. I've seen a few video's about tumblr from the perspective of people who are now in their 20s and used to be puzzled over how they focus on the dark side of the platform so much, but its making so much sense to me now. Its because these dangerous blogs were circulating mostly around the youngest users not the older ones, its awful to think so many were only just starting out in their teen years with those kind of messages being aimed at the right off the bat while many who are my age only knew there was that stuff SOMEWHERE but wasn't really encountering it ourselves. My heart goes out to those who navigated that hellscape at such a young age, you all deserved so much better than that.
I am super grateful I did not happen to make much contact with this side of Tumblr back whenever I was a hardcore user. Majority of my days there was spent fandom blogging about Doctor Who, Harry Potter, The Beatles, etc. Because I know that if I had stumbled more into this content, I probably would've spiraled since I have a history with bad chronic depression, anxiety, and sh.
I wonder what videos will be made 10 years from now about “dangerous” beauty trends in the late teens/early 20s. Eating disorders, self-harm, and desperation to “fit in” have existed for hundreds of years. Back then it was starving and cutting, now it’s trauma responses and dissociation/alters/systems. Human nature is very weird. And, proana, promia chat rooms, forums, were popular in the late 90s as well.
I've been following your shorts but this is the first long form video of yours that popped up for me ❤️ you're so cool!! You bring up so many good points. And you're gorgeous!
God the pictures of pink and black tile bathrooms and walls. And literal self harm posts and the love for bruises?? its crazy to me that people actually used to take such pictures post it with hashtags! And spread that shit around..so many small girls and children used to view it and repost it.. it's so sad it should have been shut down.
i was on late 2010s tumblr and had a different experience. Saw a lot of stuff about body positivity and accepting yourself. Cheesy as it sounds i love the line "we only have one body so love the one you're in" which i first saw on tumblr because i mean yeah true. Overall a positive experience and very helpful to me NOT developing an eating disorder despite the best efforts of my parents
While it may have culminated on tumblr, in the early 2010s fat phobia was just life, at least for me. While I have never been fat rather severely malnourished and underfed, therefore the first thing anyone spoke of was how wonderfully thin an actual child was. I was always warned about gaining weight mainly where eating sugary snacks was involved. Calories were equated with filling, it didn’t matter if I was satisfied, it mattered if I might make me gain weight. I have had an earring disorder since and still have not gotten over it. While I was not on tumblr at the time I wanted to explain my perspective on this era, it was horrible, especially for children in my opinion, not only through projection but through media(entertainment tonight).
I watched multiple girls back in 2014-2017 either having a substance abuse issue , and being skinny due to those issues. Or straight up developing ED and ending up in hospital. Along with self harm and all of the other romantisized behaviors of this era (these body image issues have always been around but the tumblr era perpetuated it to the new audience) I had both issues by 18 (2016). And I was never skinny. Because its not my body type but I was still thin for my frame at this point. This is why I enjoy your content because not everyone is supposed to have the same figure. . Even working out everyday and having a diet plan I still do not have a toned flat stomach or abs. Even when I've melted 15% of my bodyfat I'm still a soft girl and have a belly. My mother used to run up hills everyday and still had a belly. My doctors still fatshame me because of my BMI, my thin era is 75 kilos and I'm starving/ look decrepid in the face and everyone including the doctors congratulate me on it. Its sick. you either have the body or you don't. I'm sick of hearing about "fat people are lazy and have bad eating habits" its just simply not true and its not helpful, especially to the individuals who are overweight because they have a disease/ illness that contributes to their weight. I've also known very skinny people who eat more fast food and are lazier than I am......its just simply not true.
Ugh. I hate it when fat, white women conflate racism with fat phobia. White women, whether fat or thin, continue to feed off of black folk (no pun intended) in the attempts to bolster their own movements. You’re not oppressed, you’re just fat.
Exactly I'm black and fat right now i can change my body and get thinner but I cant change my skintone it's so fucking annoying They want to be oppressed so bad. Does that mean we shouldn't shame everyone who's fat? No, we should encourage them to be healthier, but can we stop acting like it's the same as racism. Stop using black people for your bullshit.
Honestly, its the same today with K-pop idols. There's a lot of videos of people trying their diets (female idols) or sharing tips about how to fit korean beauty standards for NOT KOREANS. And one of the principal standard is being VERY thin which honestly worries me
I saw a sort of similar phenomenon in alt TikTok in 2020. Maybe the TikTok compilations I was watching were just made by someone who had a type, but everyone in those videos had like super thin legs. I was starting to recover from severe body image issues at the time and it made my body dysmorpia come back twice as strong because I didn’t look like these people when I wore the same clothes. And now I have EDNOS :((
I was born on December 20th 2010, I can’t believe it was 12 years ago that we hated on overweight people and it’s still going on. This feels like the fact how some people are trying to revive the dead ohio meme
what further fueled this probem is the lack of representation of larger bodies in popular media, as tumblr was mainly used as a tool to recap and conserve shows, movies etc into gifs and photos. Effy, Cassie, Blair, Elena, Bella, all beautiful and "aesthetic" but those actresses were casted not only because of their talent, but their thinness as well. So as a result, this ended up as the default aesthetic for young women and it's honestly so frustrating looking back at it. I'm glad that the industry is slowly accepting the idea of letting fat actresses be glamourous, cool and sexy, just like the 2010 tumblr girls. Loved the video xx
You love telling yourself, that the lack of representation causes people to like slim/skinny bodies more? Why dont you folks start facing the reality that certain things, no matter how often you push them into people faces, arent perceived as "aesthetic" as other things and doesnt bring anything to the medium that shows it. Brands dont show skinny people to brainswash people, they just figured out more people respond to it positively. Every magazine that has a "plus sized" woman on the cover, sells less, every add that has obese people in it, doesnt get clicked as much. Its a lose situation for the companies, so why should they do it? People dont want it. And why is it, that I dont see fat men crying around about that? And why am I not seeing fat women wanting fat men????
Okay please don’t take this the wrong way because I’m genuinely trying to learn here. I’m a firm believer that not all trends are meant to fit everyone. I can’t pull off maybe 90% of trends I see online because it just doesn’t suit my body type, complexion, overall style or energy. However, this 2014 tumblr era aesthetic and those similar really fit into the vibe I was trying to go for. I loved the style. I loved the brands, I loved the clothes, the photos, the music, and almost 10 years later I still dress similarly to what I was seeing 10 years ago. How can you call an entire sub genre of style fatphobic or racist when the style was created mostly through young girls trying to find their own style or “aesthetic”? Is it because everyone is skinny and that’s bad? Or is it because mostly young white girls flocked to this aesthetic? And how does this differentiate from other cultures or aesthetics or styles? Just because it “doesn’t look good on fat people” we should just stay away from it entirely? I don’t think teenagers going through mental health crisis were really thinking “I’m gonna be fatphobic by wearing doc martens and posting sad photos on tumblr” I’m just trying to wrap my head around this concept. As I mentioned not all trends fit on me even if I’m a thin white girl, even if the trend is “made for me”. I don’t think a trend is made for anyone in particular really. I appreciate the thought and effort you put into this video because you’re clearly very educated but Im just trying to understand.
It's less about the aesthetic itself and more about the internal attitudes of the members. It's not bad to create an aesthetic and for one group of people to gravitate towards it, it happens all the time. It is bad when those groups actively begin to shame and exclude people for the way they look and only accept people who look like them. Tons of fat shaming happened in those places and pro ed and thinspo was common. If you were even a little bit chubby or an unconventional body type you were bullied and excluded immediately. Many already very skinny girls developed severe self esteem and body issues because of it. Just reading other comments will show you. There are tons of other issues that I am not as educated on and definitely don't have a right to speak on. While these communities probably carry many good memories for some people, we also have to understand that for many the opposite is true and it still affects their lives today. It is not about posting sad pictures in doc martins was inherently fat phopic, I'm pretty sure the blogger had no idea how they would affect people, but it unintentionally supported an unhealthy lifestyle for girls already struggling with body image issues.
I’ve been watching all these videos as a woman who was plus size during the skinny trend I know that seeing that was a big factor in my weight loss I’m no wear near a size 2 but coming from a 16 in the early 2000s to a 6 sometimes 4 now I can say to get hear I did develop a lot of unhealthy habits to obtain my weight now
i do strongly agree about what you said on the WIEIAD videos on the internet bc i searched those up on yt bc curious but the top earch was "wieiad with an ED" likeeee
My ED started at age 14 in 2011. Although tumblr didn't create it, it definitely helped cemented it inside my head. I had the ideia of SH on that site. And of course, i was already sick, but tumblr was a huge influence
Tumblr suckedd back then but it’s not really better now, cuz now you got the rcta+dcta community living on there, map communities, and just a lot of ppl who desperately need a reality check. Like I didn’t think anyone genuinely supported those communities but it turns out like 99% of the population on there does.
I’m just seeing your video, I had to subscribe after such as great video! I was also a fat preteen/teen during the 2010s and was on Tumblr. Luckily I wasn’t on it too much but I still had to see a lot of proana/thinspo. I didn’t engage in any dangerous behavior. But I do think it cause me to look at myself differently and focus on my body more. I didn’t have the guts to do things I would see that would cause me to lose weight. But I remember thinking, but maybe if I try it for a short while, I can lose the weight I need to look a little better. I’m grateful that I didn’t engage in such dangerous behavior, unlike many other young people who have either passed away or suffer from the consequences of these behavior (whether it be SH/ED/etc) but I wish I never got expose to it so early on.
I hate the tumblr grunge aesthetic bc 1: fatphobia and how exclusive it is and 2: it's not even real grunge. I was born in 2005, my parents were born in the late 60s/early 70s and I wish I was their age because they got to actually live in the 90s and you could go see all of the grunge bands (Alice In Chains
hell nah the 2014 tumblr era gave me anorexia and I'm still suffering through it 💀💀 live for the styles but the proana coaches and the thinspo cult cannot come back