Sall Grover is a champion. You have my full support. I have been checking the news everyday sine this went to court hoping for a positive outcome. I’m in Australia but the news media has barely even mentioned this case but it is so important for women everywhere.
It should have been televised. It should be reported about in detail from lawyers who have a platform like RU-vid. There should be a discussion. Having it televised would keep people accountable.
In the uk we have the Cass report that has disrupted things abit, hopefully it will be the beginning of the end for this toxic ideology that has mutilated so many young people and focuses on stripping women and girls of the right to their own spaces
So pleased to see this case get some coverage, finally. Surprise surprise it’s only the people living in reality who are brave enough to talk about this. Sall, you are so brave to fight on our behalf. Australia is in a bad way and needs more people like you to push back against this evil ideology. Thank you Tammy for shining a light on this case.
Great interview, thank you Tammy for bringing attention to Sall and this extremely important case. And a big thank you to Sall for fighting this fight on behalf of all women.
So glad you did this interview thankyou from Australia 🇦🇺 🙏 we support you Sall spreading the word and the crowd funding since finding out about this 2 days ago 😮
Men don’t complain about women breaking into old-boys clubs? Women maybe shouldn’t be part of politics or boardrooms?? That’s a baffling take. Women entering government and business is NOT the equivalent of men entering changing rooms, rape shelters, prisons, and sports. The former is a striving for equal representation between the sexes and an attempt to dismantle unfair power structures; the latter is taking what little power women have. Love Sal, and so glad she’s standing up for a female space online.
@@fox1actual I think no one should be forced to sign up for the draft. Otherwise, the military needs to look to its own issues of sexual violence and protecting abusers of the women who volunteer to serve before insisting women sign up.
@@nc5337 “no one should be forced to sign up for the draft” - that’s a very convenient and nescient position to take. If that was the case then who is going to do the fighting if your country is invaded?
Take a walk into the middle of the road and close your eyes? Listen jerk: wo-MEN have invaded EVERY MALE bastion including the boy scouts. If wo-MEN can invade MALE spaces, then MEN have the same right to invade fe-MALE spaces.
Damn right men excluded women from men only spaces including pubs, clubs and board rooms. And the evidence has been available for years showing boards and management teams perform way better when they are genuinely inclusive of women. You go Sall, bless you for your trouble in this. You are on the right side of history on this even if you lose. I pray you win. Will make a great screen play either way...
In Australia we have Men’s sheds where men can have a safe space to share their emotions and experiences with other men. I’ve always found these fantastic BUT why can the same not be forwarded to women ?! Female spaces are also a must.
Women complained that they should be allowed in men’s spaces but now when it’s on the other foot, women want their own space. Ridiculous and extremely hypocritical.
Thx Sal❤️❤️: “women belong where decisions are being made”- can’t imagine Tammy doesn’t understand how women were/are treated ?? Did she secretly have a credit card before 1960? Before you were married?🤔
I support Sall 100%. The moderator interjected too many of her own views which are far outside the norm and derailed this important discussion. The ‘vote’ has been settled for many years. Let Sall speak.
Men do complain when a women is in a man's space. And men do manage to assert their space just by grouping together as Sal said. I have grown up with that personal experience for as long as I can remember.
Sall is an absolute champion. She’s among those spearheading one of the most insidious issues of our time - men invading women’s spaces. We women do not deserve this type of intimidation or the threat of confrontation with a man in women’s spaces. These men who insist do not come in good will.
Motherhood is very very valuable. I have one daughter. I thank God I had her, and now at 63, I wish I had had more children. The pill is a massive problem and has disrupted female life. Check out Mary Harrington; she is an inspirational reactionary feminist, and talks a lot about motherhood and how important it is. Being with your child is more important than money!
As someone from the social left, I have long understood that gender identity crashed right through the intersection of the #metoo movement, and it shocks me how many so-called progressive people thought that was okay. The #metoo movement had barely begun when this madness started. I really enjoy listening to Sall, as she is so articulate and able to focus on exactly why this ideology is harmful to women and girls. It has been demoralizing how many male friends and colleagues have called me a bigot for pointing out why women deserve sex-based rights. If #metoo didn´t teach us this, nothing can until the doctors and policy makers start being honest with us about how much money the medical community is making on this.
Feminism would never have been necessary if some men had stepped up to do their tasks properly. Bad government, bad workplaces and bad company policies harm everyone. So does drinking the proceeds of your paypacket every week and making women and children starve. So does exerting your rights by violence. Instead of blaming feminism, how about blaming avoidance of responsibilities by both men and women. Men of quality have no problem with equality for women. Likewise women of quality should have no problem raising boys to be able to feel confident in their manhood and purpose in life as fathers,husbands, thinkers, dreamers and doers. Mothers have one priority. Put your children first. If that means leaving a violent man,getting a job and providing for your family, that is showing responsibility. So is voting. So is entering government and company boards so that you can help create fairness for both men and women. This lady has her lobster claws well and truly raised.
Sall’s right. The journalists have no interest in this. The news media coverage about this in Australia has been non existent, it’s disgraceful. The news channels virtually only televise every element of sport and football constantly.
Men definitely complained when women were allowed into workplaces. There are still men who complain about women going to work instead of being housewives.
I'm delighted that she chose to interview Grover, but Peterson is frustratingly passive at times. That she prioritises not disrupting the male hierarchy over fairness in terms of how our society is governed is very disheartening. Not every woman is happy to live under the thumb of a man, but that is how every woman is forced to live when the political system gives women no power.
I think the idea of feminism has become perverted. I celebrate what it means to be feminine. Women are caring and nurturing, soft and loving. I don’t need to be like a man because there’s great beauty in being a woman. I think to raise women up we don’t need to beat men down. That’s not true strength. Women supporting women ❤
The notion that men and women are separate was all part of the Marxist feminist agenda. Janice Flamengo has studied the roots of the movement and it is shocking.
@@MarciaMatthews do you mean like a mother protecting her young or do you mean going off to battle to fight along side the men? I would agree with the former but not the latter
Oh I am so glad you made a connection with Sall, dearest Mrs. Peterson, I have been following her story and thinking that your support and encouragement, and Dr. Peterson’s, would be a great help to her. Your comments about the need for male only spaces resonated with me and with thoughts and research I’ve been wrestling with for some years now. What I am concluding, and I don’t say this lightly, I’ve thought it through to the best of my ability, is that men have unique vulnerabilities that tend to be overlooked, or laughed at, or disbelieved, because men have superior physical strength by virtue of their physical build. But physical strength isn’t the only factor; we are socialized beings, not wild animals. And good men are socialized to never hit a woman or defend himself against a woman’s advances. He is taught that all sexual contact is to be sought and enjoyed, even non-consensual contact. And this leaves good men (I am not including evil men in my comments, we all know what evil men do. Evil) extremely vulnerable to women who take advantage, who know just how and where to hurt a man, and who know just how to shame and humiliate him so that he will never speak up. And those wounds, if left untreated, don’t heal but fester and become infected. I do wonder how much of the current perversion is deathly rage of men who were abused, not believed and listened to, and “transition” so that they can finally get the sympathy and empathy and care they need. This is of course one of many many factors and it’s an incredibly complicated discourse. But we hear so much about predatory men, and they are out there, and they are dangerous. But we aren’t talking about predatory women, who take out their resentment and bitterness and hatred toward one man who hurt them, upon men who did no harm to them, and then claim victim status. I am not trying to take away from what Sall is saying at all. But it might help to get to the roots of why this evil gender ideology is taking over so we can heal the wounds from the inside out. Well that’s enough trouble to get myself into for one day. Cannot wait to see you both in Boston. I’m bringing a friend! With Ruth Anne’s love.
I see your point, but I wonder about the numbers behind your claim. How many men would that be? There is evidence that a large proportion of trans women are auto gynephiles, meaning their motivation for transition is sexual. Also, blaming women for the lack of male ability to be vulnerable or heard seems incorrect. Of course there are women who harm others, but the women I know try to foster softness, honesty and vulnerability in both their partners and their sons. Who is really responsible for the issues with men? I think it’s society-and society is made up of both sexes (and only 2 of them!)
I’ve only ever seen short clips of you, Tammy, never such a long chat. The longer I watched, the more I like you. You’re weird as a waddle, in the loveliest of ways!
When Sall says it is evil to take a vulnerable child and tell them they can take pills and have surgery to change their sex I would go further and say it's evil to also tell an adult that very same thing. Adults can be vulnerable too. It's evil across the board.
I think it’s a very interesting question what changed when women entered business board rooms and became politicians. One nuance is the soft power was lost once women came in direct competition with men. Before, women were very involved in politics as a lobbying group, mostly local, and brought topics for redress. They were very persuasive precisely because they had no angle other than they lived and cared for the community. This soft power has been completely discarded and forgotten but I think we miss it.
This could have a chilling impact on women's rights. Women aren't allowed to associate with each other without the presence of men? Absolutely bonkers this world.
wo-MEN should have NO more choices than MEN. If wo-MEN can choose between stay-at-home mother or work, then MEN should be liberated too. MEN should not have to be providers or protectors; it should be a choice.
Answer the following questions and this will reflect how far the human race has gone: a) what is a woman? b) what is a fetus? c) what is a $50 bill? Which question/s could be answered without controversy?
Author John Gray did a pretty good job identifying the differences in psyche in his book “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”. In a Woman’s group, Venusians are a special requirement. Roxanne Tickle I think deserves to be treated decently, but clearly has made a huge mistake challenging this Woman’s group rights. Being Trans female does not mean Woman. I hope the court gets it right.
If "Tickle" is so determined to enter women's spaces, s/he might actually be a rapist. It might be worth checking whether s/he has a criminal record, or indeed was suspected of such a crime. This would make the issue a lot clearer.
There used to be - and in some places it still is till today - that the cafes and bars were only for men, women either weren't allowed or were frowned upon if they happened to be other (often staining their reputation). To be fair, I don't support we go back to that, I very much enjoy that in the Western world women can be in public spaces. But there's something to say about the need for gendered spaces, that would just naturally come to be so.
When touching on Feminism, you might be interested to know that American's experience with feminism & feminists where the pendulum seem to swing far left isn't the same experience of feminism & feminists everywhere else in the world. In Australian, although having Germaine Greer (who is now irionically dismissed as a centralist), feminism remained very much about equal rights not more or anything extreme. However, some so-called feminists have been subdued by the GI cult.
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Dear Sall, in the same way a person who writes a novel, yet does not publish it, is not a novelist, and you are not a screenwriter because nothing you've written has been filmed much less released. Please don't big yourself up, other Aussies are wise to this. And your private school child accent grates. If someone put hands down my pants I'd respond instantly. Not get PTSD with my mommy's hand in mine.
Sall Grover, you don't think men had "hopes & dreams" that never came to fruition? They never sacrificed anything & didn't have to give up on an idea of who they might have been? This is so gynocentric I can't listen anymore.
That is rubbish about women not being strong, we are strong in different ways. That is rubbish to say men would win, there is more than one way to fight. Women and girls have had to fight for so long. We are gifted at fighting. Also those that went into the military are not afraid to fight nor are they given into cowardness and women who throughout history who are not cowards, brave, daring and not given into lies or male dominance, because its oppression. At present, the gender ideology, its simply about sex and selfishness and the freedom to express and communicate that. That is what it is really about, the freedom to express their sexual identity and preferences in open and offensive ways and push boundaries, its also rebellion. It is about taking what another has. Its also taking away support networks so women have none. Its about other things and it comes to the end, because its not the truth. At present we are dealing with a power imbalance. Its also about inclusion and exclusion. You exclude me scenario then I will get back at you and "your discrimination".
I absolutely support trans people and don't agree with this court case at all - but I would like to say that Tammy came across as unfortunately very unprepared in this interview, asking questions like 'what is giggle Vs tickle' halfway through the interview was a bit odd. I think a bit of research and background into the topic by Tammy would have made this a better interview.
Interesting. I dont think Tickle can possibly win. Tickle can’t win because his whole claim is based on gender identity in the sex discrimination act, and the mere fact that GI is in the act breaches CEDAW, upon which the act is predicated. But more practically, Tickle is suing that he was denied access to Giggle because of his gender identity. But he wasn’t. He was denied access because of his biological sex. Sal Grover had no way of knowing what his gender identity is. So the whole argument just doesn’t stand up-I’m surprised it even got to court.
Where is Sal on the recent incel terrorist attack in Bondi Junction? She has nothing to say about femicide, domestic violence and rape culture🤷♀️ This whole case is so petty and will make no difference to women's safety regardless of the outcome.
I’m not sure how someone can be so clueless. How are any of the things you’ve mentioned to be handled, if women have no legal rights? ‘Woman’, ’man’, & ‘sex’ are not defined in the Sex Discrimination Act. So effectively there is no such thing as femicide or rape culture.
Although I believe feminism is at the bottom of most of the evils of our world right now, I also believe that the true elevation of womankind happened through Christ and His Mother. His honoring of women, especially His Mother, turned ideas of gender equality on their head. May we come to a healthy reverence for the office of women and a healthy respect for the office of man.
