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The Fighter Jet That Could Go in Reverse 

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While the most well-known Cold War-era military jet aircraft came from Britain, the United States, and the Soviet Union, Sweden quietly developed what would become the most advanced fighter jet in Europe at the time.
The Saab 37 Viggen was a mighty machine with a name that alluded to millennia-old Norse mythology, and it was easily recognizable as it was the first canard design aircraft produced in quantity.
The historic aircraft could fly steadily at speeds above Mach 2 at high altitudes and operate from short runways, ready to serve their home country at a moment’s notice.
And despite Sweden maintaining a strict policy of neutrality at the height of the Cold War, its pilots were willing to risk their lives to do the right thing if a nuclear conflict with Russia were to explode, with their Viggens more than ready for battle…
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@C64SX
@C64SX Год назад
I've got a fun little story involving a Viggen. It's the late 80's, me a 15 year old boy. In 8th and 9th grade school, you had a week or two that you spent at some workplace, we called it Praktik. Usually you got a spot at one of your parents work place and tagged along for the week, doing very simple and boring work most of the time :) My dad was an officer in the air force, and he managed to get me a praktikplats at one of the small air bases that don't have any aircraft during peace time. Usually there were like three officers and six conscripts at these bases, taking care of everyday maintenance. And of course I got to do some of the more boring tasks, since the conscripts saw the opportunity to not have to do them for a week. But that didn't matter to me, I got to use some of the machinery that other work places definitively wouldn't allow a 15 year old boy operate. Front loader, motorcycle, Jeep, truck, they allowed me to try out all kinds of things. Not exactly according to the rules, but it was a pretty relaxed place as long as there were no external visitors. One day they told me to trim the grass around the runway lights. All along the runway. There's quite a few of them, so I got the trimmer and some extra gas with me on the moped (flakmoppe, a three wheeled moped with a flatbed). It took me quite a few hours before I finally was done, and by that time I was at the very far end of the runway. Remember that this is a small air base with no air planes and no air traffic control. Planes coming in to the base were announced quite far ahead in time so the personnel would be ready to receive them, so in general the base personnel had free access to the runway. Like in this instance, me cutting grass on the sides of it. So I'm done, packing up the gear on the moped and heading back to the workshop. Of course, as a 15 year old boy with free access to an airfield, I drove down the middle of the runway. 30km/h was the mighty top speed of the flakmoppe. About halfway down the strip, I get this tingling sensation in the back of my neck... I turn around and see a Viggen coming straight at me, about 10- 15 meters off the ground. I had no time to react, the aircraft passed over my head, and an instant later the full power of the engine roar hit me. At the end of the runway the pilot pointed the nose up to the sky and did a sharp turn at the same time. Afterburner activated (thankfully not active when passing over me). Looking at it from my position, in the middle of the runway, it just looked awesome. Back at the base I told one of the officers what had happened, I was afraid I had done something wrong interrupting a planned landing or something like it, but he laughed and explained to me that pilots from the regular air bases sometimes practiced final approach to the runway without landing so it was pretty normal and not something to worry about. I definitely got a great memory to carry with me, seeing a Viggen coming at me at that height is not something I've had the opportunity to experience again :) A few years later when doing my military service, I was of course a Flygmekaniker (aircraft tech). Not on Viggen, but instead on my favourite aircraft Draken :) There were a few awesome experiences during that time as well, but none come even close to that Viggen encounter :)
@skandinaviskman
@skandinaviskman Год назад
Beautiful story!
@TRINITY-ks6nw
@TRINITY-ks6nw Год назад
Awesome
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 Год назад
What a great story! Thank you very much for sharing it with us! It was without a doubt a memory, burned into your brain, but what memory to have! I, and I guess, more than a few others, are no doubt very jealous that you got to enjoy such a wonderful Work Experience! Colour me camouflage green with a degree of jealousy if you will! Mark from Melbourne Australia
@kellzkillz
@kellzkillz Год назад
Amazing story!! What a Amazing memory... thanks for sharing.
@tbarry4990
@tbarry4990 Год назад
That is an incredible story and it's a wonder you didn't get blown off your feet. Me? ..... I probably would've soiled my pants ......to say the least. Thanks for sharing that story and I, like others, are green with envy of the opportunity to see something like that.
@GAIS414
@GAIS414 Год назад
You could see Viggens and Drakens passing by in the sky all the time when I was a kid. The cold war was no joke around here.
@toomanyuserids
@toomanyuserids Год назад
We thank you for that it worked...mostly ...in the end.
@northbreeze0111
@northbreeze0111 Год назад
For sure. Remember my time at my summer cabin. Viggens were regularly practicing there. Was a joy to see them fly by. Actually now the Gripens have started to do the same. Hear them way more now than just a few years ago.
@TrasteIAm
@TrasteIAm Год назад
Well, actually it WAS a joke. as with any serious matter we did have jokes about it to lighten our fears.
@jensstalberg8968
@jensstalberg8968 Год назад
And you felt it was a sign of readiness. Today when occationally a JAS passes a habited area, snowflake parents are contacting the military saying that their kids have been scared and that the environment does not like the flying...
@Pouncer9000
@Pouncer9000 Год назад
In Sweden 500 aircrew perished between 1945 and the end of the cold war simply upholding a credible air defence. It cost about 10% of GDP to set in place, and until the 90's 4% of GDP to maintain. If (as a male) you managed to escape either conscription or civil service you were among a select few.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Год назад
As a half Swedish with my Swedish grandmother very often we went to Sweden at my grandmother's house in the sixties and the seventies and was very common to see the Draken and the Viggen flying over the town. Was absolutely cool to see the Viggen shaking the town 👍👍👍👍👍
@thomassjonnebring
@thomassjonnebring Год назад
Power!!
@Bryanscott88
@Bryanscott88 Год назад
That plane shook up quite a few countries when it was Introduced! Was a sick bird for its time, very capable!
@lordstylesofliwitch
@lordstylesofliwitch Год назад
As a kid a friend and I was out playing in a nearby field. There was an air combat exercise going on at what we perceived as high altitude and we watched with awe at the turns and maneuvers of the circling planes. Suddenly we spotted movement just above the treeline as a Draken fighter silently came straight at us. The sound hadn't reached us yet but it soon did! With a mighty roar the dragon passed over our heads at about 15 meters and it almost made us crouch to the ground. It was a magnificent view and the raw power of the beast dropped our jaws in amazement. The pilot must have seen us at the last moment as he tipped his wings back and forth, as if waving to us before he climbed up to rejoin the fight. It is a memory that has stuck with me over the years and it still puts a smile on my face. ☺
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician Год назад
My grandfather was one of the electrical engineers at CVA ( later FFV Aerotech) in Arboga. He helped design and develop the batteries and electric power units for the Draken and Viggen fighter Jets. Watching this video brings back memories of pipesmoke, graph paper and the mad scientist (at least to me as a kid) workshop he had in the basement. I miss him. Weird how this randomly recommended video triggered all that. Ty for making this and peace.
@rainers.2080
@rainers.2080 6 месяцев назад
If you are perpetually tired maybe you should see a doctor.😮
@keith8liu
@keith8liu Год назад
The story of the 4 ‘guardian angels’ for the Blackbird was quite inspiring. One can imagine the overwhelming feelings of relief and camaraderie wash over the SR71 pilots. Bodes well for Sweden finally joining NATO.
@ohasis8331
@ohasis8331 Год назад
Good to see they were recognised for their actions, if not belatedly.
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Год назад
Thanks Sweden for not shooting down our spyplane which you easily could have done.
@Works_Garage
@Works_Garage Год назад
@@dannydaw59 Not a problem, i heard we got som nice photos of the SR (google the baltic express and viggen) there is one photo that is from below the SR you can se the right engine having problems.
@hamhouke
@hamhouke Год назад
I could not be happier that Sweden and Finland are joining NATO. One for all and all for one. If our cranky uncle in Turkey could get over himself, we would be done by now. You two agreeing to join is a big win for the rest of NATO, as we all admire and appreciate how you will make the alliance stronger. We are also glad that you can formally count on us to stand shoulder to shoulder against anyone who would threaten your countries. Not that we would not have come to your aid anyway, but having the formalized process in place and the legal requirements set just avoids unnecessary coordination problems at a time when uncertainty would cost lives. Welcome, friends. It’s good to have you onboard.
@slartibartfast2649
@slartibartfast2649 Год назад
@hamhouke not one for all. Just all for one.
@yngvesamuelsson
@yngvesamuelsson 5 месяцев назад
I did my military service as an aircraft and weapons mechanic in 1978. It was only 7 years after the AJS 37 Viggen was deployed to Sweden's Air Fleet. Most of us conscripts had no previous experience with aircraft. For 1 year we were trained to service, clear and arm fighter aircraft. The work included receiving the aircraft and the pilots. The plane was connected to a monitoring function and refueled. Various gases were added and they were armed. We hung on to robots, rockets, cannons, bombs and extra tanks. Then we checked that the cockpit was ready for the next flight. It was also included in the service that we inspected rocket seats at regular intervals and would be helpful on major service occasions, when the engines were inspected and serviced. It could also happen that we had to come along to exercises in other places. But also possibly participate during sharp exercises and surveillance of airspace. One of our officers told us that a military delegation from the United States had come to visit a military airfield in Sweden.They had been both amazed and impressed that with so little training we could be given such great responsibility over the fighter planes. In the US they had long-term staff who performed the same tasks.
@HjuvikLabs
@HjuvikLabs 5 дней назад
I too was a conscript aircraft & weapons technician on AJ 37 at F7 Såtenäs 1974 with same experience.
@martinhertsius9282
@martinhertsius9282 Год назад
Fun facts: The fuel capacity of the Viggen was ~7 cubic meters including the 1000 liter external tank. It took 7 minutes to fuel it up, and 7 minutes to empty the tanks at full afterburner. /Former Viggen mechanic
@strikerorwell9232
@strikerorwell9232 Год назад
Where were you stationed? I dont know how many divisions of fighters Sweden have today, I heard t´he figure 150, but that sounds a bit to high?
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
​@@strikerorwell9232 I've read that the figure is about 100 JAS 39 in different configurations.
@jesperwall839
@jesperwall839 Год назад
The amount of Gripen varies as the JAS39 A/B are being modified/refurbished to E as we speak. But currently it’s around 90 in service.
@martinhertsius9282
@martinhertsius9282 Год назад
@@strikerorwell9232: I was at F16, Uppsala in 1999. No idea of how many fighters we have today, but most likely waaaay too few. Because of stupid politicians not understanding that the risk of war _increases_ without a national defense. :-(
@bennylofgren3208
@bennylofgren3208 Год назад
@@jesperwall839 No, the A/B are *not* being modified to E; the first-generation Gripens are mostly already scrapped or being scrapped. The E aircraft are all new-builds, they are very different from the A/B/C/D variants and it is not possible to upgrade those earlier aircraft to E standard.
@tommywahlstrom
@tommywahlstrom Год назад
- [ ] The bikers ( 1:30) were part of the Airbase 90 system, a development of the earlier Airbase 60. The development of small ground attack aircraft and cluster bombs in the 60s demanded even faster relocations and more flexibility then Bas 60 could provide. In Bas 90 a small group of conscripts equipped with radios and on Husqvarna 258 off road motorcycles acted as traffic controllers and guides for the aircrafts. When a Viggen returned after a mission the TLBi group were dispatched. Very swiftly they drove their bikes to the road that was designated for landing at the particular time. They closed the road for traffic, checked the area for obstacles or anything dangerous and then acted as traffic controllers talking the plane down. When the Viggen was on the ground, it was guided to the service spot by another TLBi acting as a follow me car (or bike) where a group of conscript mechanics waited to refuel, rearm and preform simple maintenance on the aircraft. When the plane was ready for its next mission, another TLBi showed up and guided to the road that had been selected for take off. It was a little intimidating to ride a few meters in front of a fully armed Viggen as they sometimes were during exercises. There were rumors that the automatic gun had malfunctioned at times. Or maybe it was just what the pilots said to scare us… 😆 TLBi872.
@christhut8140
@christhut8140 Год назад
Wow. Cool info. You were part of that or was that a quote?
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 Год назад
@@christhut8140 I would say that he was one of the guys on the ground as he signed it TLBi872.
@tommywahlstrom
@tommywahlstrom Год назад
@@markfryer9880 You’re right. I was one of them. My military service begun in 1987. I was part of the second group that year. I had a really great time. Besides normal training as a soldier, we learned to ride our bikes practically every were all the year around. We put skies on them during the winter. Sounds crazy but it worked well as long as you didn’t stop in deep snow… We we’re also trained as air traffic controllers and served as assistants to the air traffic controllers on air bases around Sweden as part of our training.
@megapet777
@megapet777 Год назад
@@tommywahlstrom Never thought of bikes having skis :D but did you guys use spiked tires in the winter?
@klutttmuttsprutt6087
@klutttmuttsprutt6087 Год назад
Not axvigg, åskvigg, åska from the Norse asikkia meaning thunder. Åskvigg translates into thunderbolt. Thor didn't throw axes around, he wielded a hammer and according to the mythology thunderbolts was the result of him using it in battle with giants. Viggen either means the bolt (of lightning) or the tufted duck, another terrifying enemy...
@null.dev.
@null.dev. Год назад
Ye, never trust an American to "explain" anything from anywhere.
@northbreeze0111
@northbreeze0111 Год назад
It's true though, it's called an 'åskvigg' which literally means lightning strike or similar. A Vigg is a bird also though so it has two meanings. Just like the current Gripen (=Griffin) it plays on the supernatural. As did the J35 draken which means dragon.
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician Год назад
I am Swedish if that helps lend some credibility and this comment is correct. Partially because yes that's what a åskvigg is/means. It's the lightning strike and/or the thunder crash. Also it says so on Saabs own site in Swedish. It is also a minor referens to the canard "duck" v formation shape of the nose wings. But the name "Viggen" is basically older Swedish for "the thunder crash" or "the Lightning strike". That in turn is a nod to "Tor" since he was responsible for thunder happening when he rode his chariot across the sky. The Swedish word for thunder and lightning is "åska" which has the likely etymology of the as-eykja meaning "Asens åkning" ( the god Thor riding his chariot) which means the aesirs ride. So "Asen åker" became "åska" and hence "åskvigg" and not "axvigg". A "ax" is where a seed sits directly on the stem and have no branches they grow from like wheat for example. I Hope that was mildly interesting to someone at least. Peace, stay safe and happy Holidays
@mathiasandersson4153
@mathiasandersson4153 Год назад
I work at the national Air Force Museum in Linköping, Sweden and before that I was in the Air Force. Actually: The name alludes to two different things: Both the thunderbolts that Thor used and the thunder-wedge (just like the narrator says). The dual meaning was intended as it was to be a multi-faceted planetype..
@hmwh
@hmwh Год назад
@@RubiconDota as a Swede, I can tell you he's on point and you are talking outta yer arse
@keithbuddrige5064
@keithbuddrige5064 Год назад
Absolutely wonderful video on this. The HUD in the Viggen was so simple but packed with an incredible amount of information too. It was the first single seat fighter jet to have an integrated flight computer as well. This aircraft was very capable from its ability to conduct shipping strikes, drop both high and low drag bombs (16 of them), Rockets, Mavericks (RB-75) as well as variants of the Sidewinder Heat seeker missiles and the AJ-37 could use a Radar version A2A missile. Just incredible what they made for such a small country.
@northbreeze0111
@northbreeze0111 Год назад
Yeah especially given how unadvanced computers were at the time. Kb's of memory but they still managed to pull it through.
@Plastpackad
@Plastpackad Год назад
Also used a lot of sound signal to the pilot making him able to fly by ear and focus visually on combat tactics and navigation.
@Plastpackad
@Plastpackad Год назад
It wasn't entirely a Swedish product. Some of its hi tech was secretly provided by US and hence it had a lot of export restrictions. One unique thing about it was the versatility. It was a truly multi purpose aircraft like no other. The JAS 39 Gripen is even more versatile.
@arvalb0
@arvalb0 2 месяца назад
@@Plastpackad wasnt that the later modules tho? And that was just the cpu unit, the rest was swedish made, the reason i tought it wasn't exported because the missiles (us made)
@Mattiniord
@Mattiniord Год назад
The Viggens who came to the rescue of the SR71 in distress were two AJ37 ground attack Viggens out on a training exercise when they were told to stop what they were doing and intercept an unidentified aircraft closing in on Swedish airspace. Usually this would be done by the QRA unit of JA37 interceptors but the two AJ37 happened to be in the right area. Most likely the swedish air controllers already knew it was an SR71. They basically knew everything that went on over the Baltic and the SR71:s pattern was well-known. The AJ37 would not be ideal to intercept an SR71 in normal circumstances. However, it is possible that the air controller knew something must be wrong since the SR71 slowed down drastically and dropped in altitude. Sweden had lost aircrafts, including a sea rescue aircraft shot down by Soviet fighters over international waters in the Baltic during the 1950:ies, and while it had yet to be confirmed, a swedish signal intelligence aircraft had disappeared over the baltics the day before. It was later confirmed that it too was deliberately shot down and that the attack on the sea rescue plane was because it happened to be searching in the very same spot were the former attack had taken place. So the idea of the Soviets trying to shot down or force down an SR71 was not far-fetched. That can be why the AJ37 were sent in being the closest asset. They were later relieved by a pair of JA37 interceptors since the AJ37:s were short on fuel and it was clear the SR71 had big problems and might not even make it to NATO airspace.
@b2a1a1
@b2a1a1 Год назад
Agree totally!
@rumbust7793
@rumbust7793 Год назад
If I remember the article I read about this incident the first Viggens intercepting weren't event carrying live ordinance as they were on a training mission. This wasn't known by the eastern block so they didn't dare approach or attack.
@Bald_Zeus
@Bald_Zeus Год назад
When I was little during the late 90s/early 2000s I lived close to an airbase. Would sit out in the yard and would occationally hear jets fly by. Most were Gripens at that point. However I have a vivid memory of when something "different" flew past. Made every bone in my body shake to its core and I looked up to see what beast could produce that sound. I was only 5 then but the silhuette of a Viggen is still burned in my mind to this day. Probably kicked off my life-long interest in aircraft
@matsv201
@matsv201 Год назад
There never was gripen where i lived. They first had Draken, later they had Viggen, then after that they had Koenigsegg.
@carlkolthoff5402
@carlkolthoff5402 Год назад
Actually thought of that earlier this week. Stood outside and watched the traditional christmas tree formation, consisting of 8 Gripen and they were nowhere near as loud or brutal as I remember the Viggens from my childhood (still love the Gripen, though!). Grew up close to lake Vänern, where the pilots from F6 Karlsborg and F7 Såtenäs often would meet up for combat training. A pair of low altitude, high speed Viggens above the playground on a regular basis definitely doesn't go by unnoticed.
@Bald_Zeus
@Bald_Zeus Год назад
@@carlkolthoff5402 during an airshow some years ago I had the pleasure to see all the historic swedish aircraft in the air. What surprised me was that by far the loudest then was in fact the Draken, not the Viggen as I had expected
@carlkolthoff5402
@carlkolthoff5402 Год назад
@@Bald_Zeus Draken is extremely loud too, but if I remember it correctly it's got a much brighter sound than Viggen. Loudest thing I've ever heard was when a British Sea Harrier visited Sweden for an airshow and demonstrated a vertical take off.
@Bald_Zeus
@Bald_Zeus Год назад
@@carlkolthoff5402 Yeah, heard a harrier vtol during RIAT one year.. that thing is loud as all hell
@karna6982
@karna6982 Год назад
As a kid in the early eighties my mom and I were driving in the countryside when all the traffic were stopped by the military. Out of the woods 2 Viggen emerged and took to the sky on the road. Both mighty and scary for a little boy 😀
@petter5721
@petter5721 Год назад
Some called the Viggen pilots “the pine cone pickers” since they were experts in low level flying. Often resulting in branches stuck to the fuselage after low level missions.
@stoopingfalcon891
@stoopingfalcon891 Год назад
When I was a kid, I was obsessed with building models of as many planes as I could get my hands on. Then I found a model of the Viggen, and instantly fell in love with what I thought then was one of the most beautiful aircraft I had ever seen.
@anthonypetty9288
@anthonypetty9288 Год назад
I've always loved how Saab manages to make their fighters look just that little bit more interesting. As a kid, I always wanted to get models of the Draken and Viggen because of this.
@CKW10001
@CKW10001 Год назад
Their cars were different too, as a proud owner of 2 Saab's cars, their history is brilliant and I love Saab planes also.
@nightwolfnordberg9476
@nightwolfnordberg9476 Год назад
I have build a model of a drake one of my favorite builds
@Danne89
@Danne89 Год назад
@@CKW10001 Saab sold the car division in 1990 so any car after that is not a "real" Saab.
@beardedmanchild5816
@beardedmanchild5816 Год назад
Its always interesting to see all the cool designs other countries come up with for their aircraft
@christhut8140
@christhut8140 Год назад
The US literally gave them the design lol
@jjjr.1186
@jjjr.1186 Год назад
@@christhut8140 no we gave them some technology. And we are allies. U com bloc guys just don't understand. WE work together.
@Rudysmismans
@Rudysmismans Год назад
@@jjjr.1186 they will never listen.
@jeffpollard7304
@jeffpollard7304 Год назад
@@christhut8140 Ya right! Just like the CF Arrow!!
@bennylofgren3208
@bennylofgren3208 Год назад
@@christhut8140 Not a single screw of the Viggen was "given" to SAAB/Sweden. The engine is based on the commercially available P&W JT8D, but licence produced in Sweden by Volvo Flygmotor and equipped with a Swedish-designed afterburner, as the RM8A/RM8B. The aerodynamics and the general layout of the aircraft is all-Swedish, dictated by the uniquely Swedish requirements of combining short-field take-off and landing performance, high-subsonic low-altitude and Mach 2 high-altitude flight, flexible weapons loadout and accurate weapons delivery in an era before precision-guided weapons were common. The central computer and most of the avionics including radios, radar and electronic countermeasures were Swedish-designed and built as well.
@remigiuszbloch
@remigiuszbloch Год назад
I always have this cool feeling when I drive my Saab Turbo Viggen on the road, cool legacy, and burns almost the same amount of fuel as fighter 😂
@guygabriel6251
@guygabriel6251 Год назад
And near mach 2 capability too!? 😊
@Desire123ification
@Desire123ification Год назад
A potent and highly capable fighter that was way ahead of its time. Stored in caves as a reserve.
@fridaybot
@fridaybot Год назад
En svensk 🐅🐯 Onödig att sprida för mycket info.
@silentabove119
@silentabove119 Год назад
@@fridaybot if the above individual and myself, as well as many, many more people know about the keeping of Swedish aircraft in caves, then it's to say that the bad guys of the world know also. Just my point of view.
@lanatana3867
@lanatana3867 Год назад
That’s a fighter jet USA , NATO new which cave Bin Laden was living they even did a CNN interview with him. Just took twenty years to climb the mountain to get him though lol 😂
@NN1Ckl.
@NN1Ckl. Год назад
Canada still should’ve built the Arrow
@mattandrews8528
@mattandrews8528 Год назад
@@silentabove119 Yet almost nobody knows about the fleet of anti gravity air/spacecraft in D.U.M.B.’s all over the American desert and as well as off planet, the things I’ve seen with my own eyes in the, well let’s just call it the Navy 🤫
@seatroutadventures9492
@seatroutadventures9492 Год назад
I had always been a big fan of Viggen. It was first after I learn to fly it in DCS I understod how advanced it actually was for the time. Fantastic engenering with the sole purpose to stop the Sovjet invasion fleet in their tracks.
@archangelmichael1978
@archangelmichael1978 Год назад
I worked with the C-17 in the desert and it has the same STOL (Short Take Off & Landing) capabilities with reverse thrust, which is wild for a cargo jet. The 37 was an incredible little fighter jet for it's time.
@freas8520
@freas8520 Год назад
As a young kid in the eighties, I really felt we had air superiority over most of Scandinavia. Loved the looks and performance of that plane.
@CircuitCatWT
@CircuitCatWT Год назад
I have to say that this is my favourite cold war jets alongside the Draken. They are quite unique aircraft
@KumaBean
@KumaBean Год назад
The Draken is one sick aircraft, if I had the funds I’d buy one, have it painted matt-black, and call it Darkstar, lol (We can all dream, 🍻)
@morisco56
@morisco56 Год назад
But truly gorgeous
@ribivast2338
@ribivast2338 Год назад
A part of me is still in grief with the Viggen gone. It was my childhood dream and my powerful protector from above. The skies are and will forever now be empty from the silhouette and sound of the Viggen. I will forever be thankful for living in an era where I could witness such awesomeness..
@jonathansanchez1138
@jonathansanchez1138 Год назад
When Your Swedish Brothers come in clutch to have your back!!! Much love and gratitude from Texas!
@cf6282
@cf6282 Год назад
The Swedes have impressed met with their incredible fighters…the Viggen was one of them. The latest the Gripen is said to be the best fighter around. I saw American high ranking military checking the plane out. And they were shown around by Swedish conscripts that did the maintenance on them..explaining all in English. It impressed me…I guess the Americans were impressed too.
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
Sweden has a long history of punching far above their weight when it comes to making fighter aircraft. Tunnen, Lansen, Draken, Viggen, Gripen; all were/are aircraft that were strong competitors (sometimes clear superiors) to aircraft being produced by nations with far larger budgets and industrial bases.
@notafrog2040
@notafrog2040 Год назад
Tunnan is whatever
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
@@notafrog2040 It is truly a privilege to read such a well thought out and intelligently composed reply. Your mother must be proud.
@KungCrister
@KungCrister Год назад
@@notafrog2040 Tunnan held the world speed record twice.
@Aenonar
@Aenonar Год назад
@@notafrog2040 Tunnan was in many ways superior to the contemporary Mig15 and F86
@korpen2858
@korpen2858 Год назад
I've heard that our Uboats are worldclass aswell 🦐
@jaxsmith1744
@jaxsmith1744 Год назад
When my dad was with the Navy and Vought in the 1960's and into the end of the company the engineer's and test pilot's often exchanged information with other companies . The Viggen was often used in opponent simulations. Way ahead of it's time.
@Gruntos
@Gruntos Год назад
You mention the Dracen I was on FAC work in Germany with the RAF and had one doing low level attacks 250 ft at 420 kts. After he finished his run he pulled straight up and lit the Afterburner from 250 ft it was sooo loud one of the cows prolapsed and we had to pay damages to the the farmer. I also saw the last 104 too great times.
@decadent5341
@decadent5341 Год назад
hahaha poor cow :(
@tor2919
@tor2919 Год назад
To my knowledge the JA37 fighter version of the Viggen was the first fighter in the world with a modern data link in 1985. There was not anything like it anywhere in the world until 10 years later. The fighter link in the Viggen enabled, for example, one airplane in a flight of four to paint the sky with its radar and guide the weapons of the other three airplanes so that they could fly silent, without emitting any signals that would give them away. The silent Viggens would get the same radar picture on their screens as the lone Viggen using its radar. It was the next generation of sensor sharing and I dont think there was anything like it until the F-22 came into service much later. This meant that an enemy pilot would get indication from their systems that a radar was illuminating them from one direction, and then suddenly BVR-missiles would attack them from other directions without warning. I don't think its fair to sum up the Viggen without mentioning this game changing capability.
@Jason_The_Man
@Jason_The_Man Год назад
This is one of the most interesting and neat looking planes ever made.
@jeremybledsoe7225
@jeremybledsoe7225 Год назад
They still fly low and fast. I was living in Gothenburg in 2017 when Gripen’s did a VERY low pass straight over downtown at an incredible speeds. I remember thinking how the Air Force would never do that in the United States because of all the complaints, but in Sweden no one would complain.
@Aenonar
@Aenonar Год назад
Oh people complain here as well, not many but a few... People have gotten far too used to peace and the military practicing, hell they even complain that they're "wasting tax money" while practicing... I don't understand some people... I used to work at a remote place where the Gripens regularly flew over on the way to their training area in the Baltic sea, awesome seeing them fly over down to like 150 meters. (probably less a few times but don't tell anybody... 🤫) I think the current regulations are 500 feet AGL, but this place was basically uninhabited so who cares 😅
@AlexKall
@AlexKall Год назад
People with horses constantly complain, even after they buy a "farm" right next to an air force base 🤷‍♂️
@AlexKall
@AlexKall Год назад
@@Aenonar the lower limit is the same as before 20m / 30m.
@zymelin21
@zymelin21 Год назад
@@AlexKall darn "city-slickers"!!
@stefandedalus4097
@stefandedalus4097 Год назад
Yes, I do remember that very day...😁
@entiaskaso3319
@entiaskaso3319 Год назад
"Are we there yet? Are we there yet??" Viggen- I WILL TURN THIS JET AROUND!
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
haha. lol
@Merecir
@Merecir Год назад
One funny aspect of Viggen is that it started out as a VTOL project very similar to the F-35 of today. The thrust reverser is basically a simplified version of the attempt to redirect the engine thrust downward.
@Mortac
@Mortac Год назад
👋
@Merecir
@Merecir Год назад
​@@Mortac 🛸
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Год назад
It's my dream to go to Sweden and see the Viggen in one of the underground roadside hangers they had. What a fantastic concept, sensible Swedes!
@andreas_petersson
@andreas_petersson Год назад
You should visit Aeroseum just outside Gothenburg. It's located in an old mountain base with lots of planes and helicopters.
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
If you're ever in Sweden you should check out Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping. There they have this hangar in the mountain with lots of cool planes.
@andreas_petersson
@andreas_petersson Год назад
@@kristofferhellstrom Flygvapenmuseum är i byggnader över mark, inte i bergshangarer
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
Ja men under mark har de ett bergrum med flygplan? Eller har jag fel? har tyvärr inte själv varit där men hört polare prata om det.
@andreas_petersson
@andreas_petersson Год назад
@@kristofferhellstrom Tror inte Flygvapenmuseum har något bergrum i Linköping. Däremot finns ju Aeroseum utanför Göteborg. Det är en bergshangar.
@johnearle1
@johnearle1 Год назад
The Viggen was a beast. The last interceptor version upgrade JA-37D was as capable as early Gripens. They lacked its range, but were a formidable weapon for its generation. Swedes make excellent fighter jets.
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ Год назад
The SR71 incident was common knowledge in Sweden ever since it happened. The most memorable Viggen mission was in 1981 when the air force scrambled to medd a soviet raiding force believed to be attempting an armed rescue of a grounded USSR Submarine off the Swedish Naval Base at Karlskrona. Weapons Free had also been given by the political leadership if the Soviets crossed the border.
@eurogael
@eurogael Год назад
This was one of my favourite aircraft as a kid in the 70s - nothing else really looked like it. I remember making an Airfix kit of it and having a poster, which had both a Viggen and Draken next to each other in flight, on my wall.
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
R.I.P all the Swedish pilots who gave their lives for Sweden
@sheeeitmayn4384
@sheeeitmayn4384 Год назад
Lol, is there even a handful?
@kristofferhellstrom
@kristofferhellstrom Год назад
@@sheeeitmayn4384 Over 1000 pilots. There's a memorial in Stockholm.
@genericusername5909
@genericusername5909 Год назад
During the cold war hundreds of pilots died in accidents due to poor discipline and macho attitudes. Pilot education improved with time.
@theskepticalnegativist1004
@theskepticalnegativist1004 Год назад
They died training in combat mode. Taking the planes to and beyond what they was constructed for. Creating for the time, the best pilots in the world. Flying down IN firebreaks and 30feet above water will absolutely create accidents but it will detere enemies to. A price the swedish airforce at the time, was willing to pay.
@oddjonsson2815
@oddjonsson2815 Год назад
​@@sheeeitmayn4384several hundreds during the cold war. The safety handbook is written in blood
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Год назад
Not just "predictable patterns" were used to lock on to blackbirds, but they developed a head on attack vector, and managed to get around the electronic counter-measures. In a real situation it would have forced the SR-71 to take evasive action, which it wasn't designed to do, and pilots weren't trained to. The SR-71 relied entirely on being able to outrun everything. But yes, not even the fastest Russian planes managed to do this.
@Robert-nz2qw
@Robert-nz2qw Год назад
This was pretty good. You missed a few very important facts. The AJ model was geared towards anti ship missions and used what at the time was the foremost AS missile, the Rb 15 (preceded by the not too shabby Rb 04) . The existence of the Viggen and these missiles secured the Baltic Sea during that era. The Viggen’s navigation system was developed based on the US TerNav system first developed for the canceled SLAM missile. The same system was also adapted for the Harpoon missiles. The Viggen is the only aircraft using it for navigation The JA model was a compete rework of the AJ model and even has a different engine (modified). What’s more it was the first jet with an integrated datalink capability that still surpasses Link 16 still in use in NATO. And also the Viggen was the first aircraft to be equipped with a HUD from inception. There were a few aircraft lying with HUDs before the Viggen but they were retrofitted and the aircrafts were not designed with HUDs in mind.
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia Год назад
Amazing aircraft, and I always liked it ever since I could fly it virtually in Fighter Bomber / Strike Aces back in the early 90s on the Amiga. So glad it came to DCS in the AJS variant, but I'd love to have a JA as well, maybe even the D. Too bad you left out the story of the incident with the Su-15 Flagons over the Baltic Sea in 1985 where one of the Soviet interceptors basically was manoeuver killed by the Viggens.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
I have also heard of cases where Hind helicopters have been downed by booming past under them to make the rotors hit the fuselage. Not sure if it was only stories though.
@williamporter7596
@williamporter7596 Год назад
Excellent video about the Viggen, one of my favorite designs from the Cold War era.
@TheRocketSurgeon_11
@TheRocketSurgeon_11 Год назад
Saw a pair of these at an air show this summer, the sound of that engine is superb.
@AchtungKarate
@AchtungKarate Год назад
The sound of the Viggen engine is earshatteringly awesome. The roar alone should send potential enemies running. Sounds like some mythical dragon.
@777swed3
@777swed3 Год назад
My moms grandpa worked on developing the Viggens engine. Definitely one of my favorite aircraft of all time
@macjonte
@macjonte 11 месяцев назад
This fall when our king celebrated 50 years on the throne with a parade with hundred of thousands of people, he was celebrated with several flyovers of the classic Christmas three formation, but the planes wasn’t only Saab 39 Gripen, it was one of each from his 50 years on the throne. Including Viggen and Draken. Impressive to see!
@vismundcygnus2800
@vismundcygnus2800 Год назад
I never knew Viggen pilots got at least 450 hours of diplomacy training. And while in flight, no less!
@LennartEkdahl-e1k
@LennartEkdahl-e1k Год назад
Very fun to watch this movie. In 1977 I worked as a conscript on the F13 as a camera mechanic. Have countless times loaded and looted movies from Fl 02 from F13 Bråvalla. So watching these movies gives me a sense of belonging even though it was a troubled time even then. Thanks
@theallmightyego6756
@theallmightyego6756 Год назад
the double-dorito wing plane
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 Год назад
In school we visited F14. I got to sit in a Viggen in a hangar, it was so cool..
@florky_01
@florky_01 Год назад
Swedish fighter jets look very nice, especially the Viggen, Draken and the Gripen.
@BustaHymen
@BustaHymen Год назад
Great video, I'm impressed with the research. Not many get it right, it's quite an obscure aircraft to anyone not Swedish :D
@CircuitCatWT
@CircuitCatWT Год назад
I'm an Australian and I only knew of it from War thunder obviously but now they are my favourite cold war aircraft beyond just War thunder.
@paulbrown3302
@paulbrown3302 Год назад
@@CircuitCatWT it’s an insanely awesome looking plane, would strike fear in enemies when they see it coming
@paulbrown3302
@paulbrown3302 Год назад
If they see it coming*
@alex190alex
@alex190alex Год назад
@@CircuitCatWT When Sweden first got added to WT I mostly wanted to play it because of it's tanks which are arguably the most powerful in the game(I mostly wanted to play the cheese wedges tho) but when I started to focus on the Air side of the nation I was absolutely blown away by how unique its Airforce was and is. I cant wait for Sweden's Naval to be added to WT
@amazingjarl7147
@amazingjarl7147 Год назад
he mostly read off of the wiki article of it but still it’s much better to watch a video about it than read the entire article
@mcguckin13
@mcguckin13 Год назад
Didn't it have some sort of short-range encrypted comm system based on an early form of Bluetooth tech? It allowed wingmen to communicate completely securely with each other without being intercepted or jammed by enemy tech of the time. I also remember reading about some sort of target sharing system; one fighter could lock and another fire 🤔
@customizer2
@customizer2 Год назад
That's correct, it was called data link.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
It's mentioned in the video, it was called STRIL 60, later 70 etc. Today it's called TIDLS.
@fytebantastic
@fytebantastic Год назад
It was called Jaktlänken (fighter link) and was used by the JA37 fighter version, it let aircrafts share target data. Allowed one aircraft to target the enemy, and the others could see it without using radar. STRIL-60 was a larger system that integrated ground-based radars and computers with command centers, that could send targeting data to aircraft. The Saab Draken used it and had a cool, very early digital datalink to receive commands and targeting data.
@patrikfloding7985
@patrikfloding7985 Год назад
Radio tech. Certainly nothing like bluetooth, thankfully. There are many kinds of radio systems (wifi being another).
@chrisshannonmoeller781
@chrisshannonmoeller781 Год назад
Always loved this plane.
@CircuitCatWT
@CircuitCatWT Год назад
Same
@antonioeltigre4465
@antonioeltigre4465 Год назад
Saab make some very special aircraft, big fan of the Viggen in particular, what a beast.
@ThorKarlsson
@ThorKarlsson Год назад
Good video. But you missed a rather important bit on the Blackbird story.. Two Foxtrots was already trying to intercept the Blackbird when they were met with a squadron of Viggen. Meanwhile, another squadron of Viggen from another airbase was ordered up to protect the Blackbird while the former squadron had the Foxtrots in check.
@SP3NTT
@SP3NTT Год назад
Most underappreciated airframe ever
@jimmyandersson4599
@jimmyandersson4599 Год назад
3 fun fact about "Viggen": 1. Yes, Viggen means tufted duck, but it was named after the lightning that Thor's hammer created when it hits the earth in anger, called ÅskViggen in Swedish and thunderbolt in english . 2. If you are driving around the country side of Sweden you can literally see these small runways created for "Viggen" and later on for JAS 39 "Gripen" absolutely everywhere. We have probably thousands of them, so a invading force would not be able to destroy our airforces landing sites. There is a fun clip on how they land a "Gripen" on a road, refueling and reloading, and after a few minutes it's airborne again, full combat ready! 😊👍 3. The only plane in the world that actually flew and intercepted a Black Bird in flight that was intruding on swedish airspace and escorted it out of there. Amazing plane.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
Draken, Viggen and Gripen all follow a naming convention of using words that can mean different things. Draken can mean "kite" and that fits with it's shape, but it can also mean Dragon. Viggen as you mentioned can both mean Tufted Duck, but also Thunderbolt. Gripen can mean Gryphon but also "arrested"/ "caught".
@jimmyandersson4599
@jimmyandersson4599 Год назад
@@znail4675 correct, but it was always the fairytale name in mind that was the idea. The way we pronounce "Gripen" is not the same way we say "gripen"/arrested. We have another plane also, that was called SAAB 32 "Lansen" and it could only mean one thing, "the lance". And probebly got the name from it's spearheaded shape.
@FN1980a
@FN1980a Год назад
@@jimmyandersson4599 As a swede it's of course second nature but for non-swedish speakers it must be hell to try separate the pronounciation of gripen and gripen as in arrested. I'm glad i don't have to learn this language as an adult xD
@jimmyandersson4599
@jimmyandersson4599 Год назад
@@FN1980a yep I agree. I have a friend that is married with an American female and she think's it's almost hopeless to learn this "impossible" language. 😂 And just because of that reason, same word but different meanings depending of how you pronounce it, in "gripen" case, a slight tone change and the speed of how you say it. I agree with that, it's a hopeless language! 😂
@BD4V1S1
@BD4V1S1 Год назад
Awesome, thanks for doing a SAAB video! Keep up the good work.
@gaian2000
@gaian2000 Год назад
Loved the story about the Swedish pilots escorting the wounded Blackbird. I heard a Blackbird pilot speak in the 1980s and he mention that when one engine flamed out there was an automatic restart immediately. In spite of the speed of this correction the fantastic velocity of the aircraft caused a serious jolt which pilots called a "train wreck." Some helmets were damaged and some crew members were injured like that but it was a phenomenal flying machine. Thank you Sweden for being a true ally.
@akidshistoryandaviation
@akidshistoryandaviation Год назад
I literally just searched for good short documentaries about the Saab viggen so thanks!
@GIZALARF
@GIZALARF Год назад
One of my all time favourite jets to fly in DCS world. Absolutely awesome to fly and very forgiving.
@WolfVidya
@WolfVidya Год назад
Loving the DCS thumbnail, I own the module and it-s undeniably fun and unique too, which pretty much describes all swedish aviation.
@peterp4037
@peterp4037 Год назад
That won't last against a true opponent.
@WolfVidya
@WolfVidya Год назад
@@peterp4037 Well their only design philosophy was pretty much to defend against Russia, that's unique enough, and very much aimed at a true opponent.
@paulbrown3302
@paulbrown3302 Год назад
@@peterp4037 the viggen would hold up against any mig I bet lol, it looks high quality at first sight
@simbadooo9055
@simbadooo9055 Год назад
I think it's from War Thunder, could be wrong but nowadays the two games look surprisingly similar
@Mini_is_Drunk
@Mini_is_Drunk Год назад
@@simbadooo9055 It is from DCS from the looks of it the WT variant doesn't have drop tanks and the armament looks different from the WT version
@sentinelDJ707
@sentinelDJ707 Год назад
I can see this plane being in a old top-gun movie. Because of its ability to reverse. I skilled pilot could gain a good advantage in dogfighting if no missiles were involved. like just machine gun vs machine gun. The advantage being going in reverse mid dogfight and confusing the opponent because in the opponents eyes you disappeared only to catch ‘em off guard.
@talimartinez6707
@talimartinez6707 Год назад
Awesome awesome videos. Love the narrative. Very pleasant and I formative. As an aviation enthusiast this is much appreciated.
@xinixini1826
@xinixini1826 Год назад
"Viggen" makes it sound less like a Duck and more like a "Meatless" aircraft.
@williamhall667
@williamhall667 Год назад
Newark air museum in Nottinghamshire England. Has both the Viggen and the Draken on display along with the Harrier that was forced to land on a container ship during the falklands war. They also have a pair of mig 21s (one in polish markings) and a Vulcan they sometimes give cockpit tours of.
@jonathanmimnagh8956
@jonathanmimnagh8956 Год назад
I believe the Sea Harrier incident took place in the med a little while after the Falklands conflict. It destroyed the captains van and a sidewinder missile fell off its launch rail onto the deck.
@ThePsihopatul
@ThePsihopatul Год назад
You can see one of these beauties near Turku airport, you go past it if you take harbor-city center-airport bus. It's amazing to see it up close.
@finntastique3891
@finntastique3891 Год назад
The one on display in Turku is an ex Finnish Airforce J-35 Draken.
@jayc2469
@jayc2469 Год назад
0:35 look at that wing flex!! Saab are built like Tanks - whether a plane, a car, or even a tank!
@Blashkyrk
@Blashkyrk Год назад
I hade a tech-teacher in ground school that used to be a Viggen pilot. He described vividly how the wings would flap like a bird under certain situations. The flex at the wing tips were almost a meter according to him.
@aaronp9928
@aaronp9928 Год назад
Now that's a hell of a story, what those Swedish pilot's are nothing more than remarkable people and how they trained was even better. They saved are American pilot's from a possible bad situation.
@cellpat2686
@cellpat2686 Год назад
Sweden has had the distinction of being neutral, but finding itself in the middle of the action without even asking for it. A hand salute to those military pilots.
@milton.karlsson
@milton.karlsson Год назад
"In europe" it was the worlds most advanced fighter jet.....
@sczygiel
@sczygiel Год назад
I like your work very much. You have specific style and do the research very well. Thank you for all the content!
@nielsdorhout058
@nielsdorhout058 Год назад
I sat in the cockpit once, there is so much room you can almost fit two seats side by side 😂. One of the best looking jets ever made. Especially in the splinter camo
@Biljoona
@Biljoona Год назад
According to a very unverified story, once upon time, Viggens were having exercises and pilot started looking for an airfield that was set up on a stretch of highway. After a while he spotted what seemed the temporary landing stretch he was looking for. He landed and everything went fine except it was the WRONG HIGHWAY! But no matter. Since the Viggen was able to reverse, he would be able to do a three point turn at an intersection, power back to air and proceed to land to the correct temporary base without anybody noticing. He would have never been caught but a single car appeared just as the pilot was about take off. The plane cleared the car and only damage was bruised pilot's ego. 😆 No idea if the story is true. 😆
@Aenonar
@Aenonar Год назад
It is true and fairly well documented. Wednesday 16th November 1994, JA37 Petter 19 from F16 was landing at Byholma road base. The visibility was a bit poor and the pilot landed, reported on the radio that he was on the ground and asked for taxiing directions as he didn't see anyone to guide him. He reported various landmarks he saw at which the ground controller got really confused as there wasn't any aircraft coming down his road. Ground controller replied he has no visual contact with any aircraft and the pilot asks if he may have landed on the wrong road. Ground again says he has no contact and asks if the pilot is in the air or on the ground. At this point a lady in a car comes down the road and meets the Viggen, so the pilot just turns around and responds "I'm coming" and took off (and blasted a few road signs away and cracked the chimney on a nearby house with the noise of the afterburner) and then landed on the correct road... Pure luck that no one was injured and the pilot of course got reprimanded for it. Not just the wrong landing but that he was stupid enough to take off again on an unsupervised runway.
@AlexKall
@AlexKall Год назад
@@Aenonar 1944?
@Aenonar
@Aenonar Год назад
@@AlexKall ....I might have ended up 50 years off with that typo 😂
@jeremybledsoe7225
@jeremybledsoe7225 Год назад
On a side note the SR-71 was designed by a first generation Swede Kelly Johnson, his parents were from Mälmo in Skåne, the southern tip of Sweden close to Copenhagen, Denmark.
@catd11ng74
@catd11ng74 Год назад
Other famous American things with Swedish heritage. The Coca Cola bottle and the Indian motorcycle were developed by Swedes. Bronx was also devekoped by a Swede
@jcwoods2311
@jcwoods2311 Год назад
I had no idea there was EVER a plant-based fighter, let alone a cold war era model. Ability to blast gas to achieve reverse thrust is a very novel idea for sure!
@jdsheleg8332
@jdsheleg8332 Год назад
That is why they named it "the Vegan".
@ohasis8331
@ohasis8331 Год назад
@@jdsheleg8332 clever :)
@PaulJohnson-vn7eh
@PaulJohnson-vn7eh Год назад
@@jdsheleg8332 outstanding
@iowasucks9494
@iowasucks9494 Год назад
Even if it wasnt the first aircraft to employ reverse thrust by a longshot the fact they added it to a fighter for ease of use is a really genius idea
@radekc5325
@radekc5325 Год назад
I don't think the plane was plant-based, but rather designed to eat plants. It was a novel attempt at making a plane that doesn't chase after birds.
@ryanm.191
@ryanm.191 Год назад
Love that the thumbnail is a screenshot of dcs world
@MBBurchette
@MBBurchette Год назад
Very glad the Swedes decided to officially join the team. Collective Security for the win! 🇲🇵🇸🇪
@MXSSF_ACTUAL
@MXSSF_ACTUAL Год назад
Security from what?
@HinFoo
@HinFoo Год назад
@@MXSSF_ACTUAL russia
@tituslaronius
@tituslaronius Год назад
Viggens used to fly over my grandparents' summer place all the time when I was a kid. Now I live really close to a Gripen training area and they often fly over my apartment. Life is good.
@aragos32727
@aragos32727 Год назад
I don't think Saab ever made a ugly plane. The Draken, the Griphon, all beautiful.
@AntorAntor
@AntorAntor Год назад
Eh. They also made SAAB 29 Tunnan. "Tunnan" means "the barrel", and it's quite a fitting name considering how ugly that thing was.
@aragos32727
@aragos32727 Год назад
@@AntorAntor better looking than the J-21r. I mean for a design that came out of the late 40s, the 29 wasn't that bad.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
I consider Viggen more menacing and dangerous looking while Draken and Gripen are beautiful.
@davidmoore8741
@davidmoore8741 Год назад
Just taking my sunday drive in the woods in my fighter jet lol
@vladdracul9813
@vladdracul9813 Год назад
Robert Clotworthy is such a great narrator with an instantly recognizable voice. Dark Skies is very informative and weirdly addictive, as Robert brings a certain urgency and importance to his voice work.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 Год назад
He doesn't seem to think much about what he's reading though. It was either this video, or the one about the Draken, where he said something about pilot "conversation" training. There are some right howlers in some of his narrations.
@joelmulder
@joelmulder Год назад
For anyone wondering, yes, the thumbnail is from DCS
@dmg4415
@dmg4415 Год назад
Swedish pilots in training, often looked UP to the treetops in the archepilago of Sweden, there are some official videos on the Tube look these up, some in Swedish, a good reason to learn this language?😊
@09jt1
@09jt1 Год назад
Thx for your factfilled film. This is the plane I, as grown up in Sweden, seen most time in the sky and in air shows. As I said, a nice film . Thx
@phantom0456
@phantom0456 Год назад
Saab: Born From Jets Interestingly, Saab actually had a higher-performance version of their 9-3 called the Viggen, which was named after this particular jet.
@hondaman4423
@hondaman4423 Год назад
The Saab 9-3 was largely a GM production, which is why it was such a piece of s**t
@phantom0456
@phantom0456 Год назад
@@hondaman4423 I’m aware that it was. If I know that such a relatively obscure car exists, it’s a good bet that I also know that Saab was owned by GM by that point and that the 9-3 was also based on a GM platform and used primarily GM parts. I brought it up because it was named after this aircraft and also because even the GM-derived Saabs still interest me, but that’s also true of just about any car or aircraft. That being said, GM definitely mismanaged the brand and the death of Saab at their hands is a travesty. The older, true Saab automobiles such as the 99 and 900 were incredibly well-engineered cars and extremely quirky in a good way. I remember seeing 900’s on the road fairly often when I was a kid, and I like that Saab had such unusual (for the day) tech such as a front-wheel drive layout with a longitudinally mounted engine, turbocharging, console-mounted key ignition and (I also believe) the first side-impact door beams. They truly were an automobile manufacturer that focused on engineering and safety, as well as quality. It’s a shame they’re no longer around.
@jokervienna6433
@jokervienna6433 Год назад
I grew up in Sweden (born 1970) and we saw quite a few Viggens fly by when I was a kid. They where very loud, tore the sky apart. The Draken and other Swedish jets where nothing in comparison. In my early teens I got the chance to see them practicing shooting ground targets. They came in very low, rolled onto their back, aimed, rolled back and shot. Then they went straight up in the sky and disappeared. The control tower asked one of the pilots (a Biggles type, that does no longer exist in any airforce I guess), to make a low pass. He did it, and came in so low so the trees moved. That was a roar.
@stevenhoman2253
@stevenhoman2253 Год назад
SAAB are still going strong, with their unique approach to fighter development. Sweden is a small country with a small population, so they must achieve far more with far less.
@peterp4037
@peterp4037 Год назад
Comedy.
@ros8737
@ros8737 Год назад
Viggen is a formidable veteran and kept by enthusiasts, this beast can still be experienced live in air shows around the world.
@Frobard
@Frobard Год назад
I once watched what I believe was a dog fight exercise with two 37s close to Arkösund in the Swedish archipelago. Quite impressive maneuvers with very tight turns. And very noisy!
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Год назад
The Viggen has amazing turning performance because of its wing configuration, even compared to many modern aircraft. Canard delta wings can produce awesome turn performance but at a cost of sustained turn performance. A good example of this is the F-16, a Viggen may be able to out turn a f-16 in one circle, but it will bleed off allot of speed doing it and can't sustain such a turn without stalling. In contrast a F-16 will turn less tight, but can sustain that turn for a long period of time while maintaining speed or even accelerating. However for a Viggen in a ground attack role the sustained turn performance was a non issue since the single tight turn it could make was all that was needed, drop ordinance, turn and burn as fast as possible. Awesome aircraft, one of my favorites of all time.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
@@-Zevin- Viggen also had an auto-aim system where the autopilot took over and made whatever maneuver needed to get the clear shot making that one turn all that was needed for an assured kill.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Год назад
@@znail4675 Kind of, the navigation computer could have preset coordinates in the heads up display so it could guide you directly to target and give you cues when to release weapons and target location even in complete darkness. Really advanced stuff for the time period. I only know this because I put a ton of time into the Viggen on DCS lol.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
@@-Zevin- That is not what I am talking about. That is nav points, those are useful for doing ground attacks and other things. I am talking about pressing a button and the plane does a max G turn in what ever direction needed to land the perfect shot and shoots a burst. That is not in the DCS version I think as it was the JA version that had that. According to pilots so was it both terrifying due to the sudden maneuver and for it's effectiveness.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Год назад
@@znail4675 Ahh I wasn't aware of such a system, it must have been on much more modern Viggens, It certainly wasn't available on the earlier generations.
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 Год назад
I have actually witnessed a Viggen go backwards it was the Farnborough Air show (England) absolutely atrocious weather on and off torrential rain and huge gusts of wind as part of its display the Viggen came in over the runway at maybe 150 - 200 feet and presumably throttled back facing into the wind and to everyones surprise went slowly backwards under complete control
@marksanney2088
@marksanney2088 Год назад
A very impressive aircraft which was definitely ahead of the curve. One of the mistakes made regarding the flight of aircraft is that of running the same flight paths. This is what contributed to the loss of an American F117. Fantastic aircraft in the hands of extremely capable pilots. 👍🏻 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪 🇸🇪
@greghall4836
@greghall4836 Год назад
During it's early develpment, Viggen was planned to be able to be armed with nuclear bombs, for possible use against invasion beaches, river crossings and Warzaw pact embarkation ports. As a child during the 80:ies I lived closed to a Swedish airbase. These birds were very noisy indeed. I especially remember how sometimes my elementary school teacher would need to pause talking during classes, because she couldn't be heard over the intense noise. When I got older and took my bike to town, I got to cycle on a very wide bicycle lane, along a very straight piece of road with underground fuel tanks next to it.
@pwdajjal
@pwdajjal Год назад
Saab jets are one of the most underrated fighter jets out there. Not all country can afford a fifth gen or stealth jet fighters but a more reliable and robust ones are as good as they come.
@awmperry
@awmperry Год назад
Good video on one of my favourite aircraft - it was still the primary fighter when I did my national service in the Air Force back in 2001. One note, though - it’s “åskvigg” (pronounced “oskvigg”), rather than “axvigg”; it’s not cognate with the English word axe.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
The best translation for "åskvigg" is Thunderbolt.
@cdncitizen4700
@cdncitizen4700 Год назад
Love me a good Saab Story!... Always LOVED the aggressive look of the Draken, one of my favourite looking flying beasts of all time. The Viggen is equally gorgeous, with VERY impressive functional capabilities. Eventually evolving into the Gripen which was successfully sold to other friendly countries for their defense systems.
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