"How in hell do you know all that?" He's seen very futuristic aircraft as well as the Nimitz itself and he's still in the dark. Truly fit to be a Senator.
If you really want to be a stickler for realism, he’d probably say nothing and just assume it was a spy within Japan’s military or a secret military project that had broken Japanese code (which we eventually did) and thus knew ever detail of the plan. As for the “futuristic” planes and carrier, he’d probably rationalize them as contemporary military vehicles with technology he doesn’t understand or hasn’t seen yet. That’s generally how the brain works as long as the objects aren’t too unrecognizable (don’t seem like magic).
I absolutely loathe the political class but my first thought would be some type of top secret project and my last would be a time travel portal. But still a good comment
@@aspenrebel If I saw a plane today with no visual propulsion at all (no engines, propeller, jets, etc), I would not assume it's from the future, especially if there were Americans in military uniforms flying it. I'd think it was new technology. Original poster is saying the Senator is dumb for not instantly figuring out these people are from the future, I don't think that's a realistic point of view to take.
M-16 was selector was on "FIRE" not in Safe...only need it to press the trigger.. but rifle was rubber duckie..have you noticed a movie error !!!! look at the M-16 bending when the Prisoner hit the guard in the stomach. 0:12
Yamamoto was in an impossible position: either he did what the Battleship Mafia of the IJN wanted him to or be fed to the wolves within the IJA. Remember, Imperial Japan's military back then wasn't above killing good officers just to get a good edge against the opposing branch.
"We regret to inform you that your son was killed in action against the naval forces of the Empire of Japan." Parents: *shocked face* But it's 1976. What the?
They'd have gotten the standard "Training Accident" ruse that the Government gives widows and orphans when they don't want them to know what really happened.
"The Navy Dept. regrets to inform you that your son, rank so & so, was seriously injured during a training exercise on the evening of date, month, and year. The medical team did all they could to stabilize your son, however the injuries were to severe. Chaplain Charlie was with him as he passed and administered last rites....."
This movie came out about 40 years ago and about 40 years after WWII. It is strange that the Nimitz of 40 years ago is not totally out classed by today's carriers the way it would have outclassed the Japanese fleet that attacked Perl Harbor
And it's crazy how the Nimitz, the F14 and all planes and equipment in this movie are severely outclassed by our current Gerald R. Ford class carrier, F-35 and F18. This is why I am glad we spend $780 billion on military.
The hull may be the same, the corridors may be the same, but vessels have been so heavily upgraded and overhauled that it's like a brand new ship, just an old foundation.
@Rick O'Shay This is an example of a movie where the story was smarter than the audience. Most people just want to see the Nimitz take on the Japanese fleet, but that's not what the movie is about.
@@nocalsteve you know.... that actually sounds way more interesting and creative than what they did. I haven't seen the film yet but God just image the posibilities of them creating an alternative Time line where WWII gets heavily altered due to the presence of time travel Americans and that one carrier with limited supplies of missiles and fuel, but extremely advanced weaponry for the time.
@Rick O'Shay What I think he's saying is that the simple route is to let Nimitz take on the Japanese fleet. It'd be a massacre. But there's the very important facet of the equation. The attack on Pearl Harbor galvanized the US public to an almost passionate ferver to exterminate the Japanese threat. Without the attack this would not have been possible. It was a sucker punch to the gut of the US. Man, I get it...I want to see that Japanese fleet get sunk down to the last lifeboat, but the more important question is...why would the US of 1941 have the impetus and conviction to carry on the fight without having had that sucker punch to begin with? This movie presents a really gut-wrenching decision. Save the Pacific Fleet or let them rascally Japanese get away with it. This is one of those very few time travel movies that I love for presenting hard choices like this.
@Rick O'Shay I absolutely agree to an extent. Were I Captain Yelland I'd have said, "Screw it...let's proceed with the attack on the Japanese". History would become radically different. Just by the information and knowledge that Kirk Douglas has from the future you could thoroughly rewrite history, changing an enormous amount so that the US alone could crush all Axis powers within a year (and that's being generous). But it was that whole sense of fighting against a naval superpower that provided the US citizenry with a "do or die" attitude that ultimately made that whole future technology possible. It's a thoroughly difficult choice...I would have loved to see how it would have turned out had Douglas gone through with it anyway. I suppose that's for a good sci-fi author somewhere to figure out....
@@saschabach3285 A handful of years ago I had learned that there was a separate Ukranian language from Russian. I was chatting with a women online. She had lived in Kiev, Ukranian for 9 years as a child/teen with her parents and siblings. She lived in many different cities/countries all over. She was white, British and German, but spoke Russian, Ukranian, English, German, some Slovak and Polish too I think. She married an American man and lives in California now. But she has no accent, she sounds like an American, so do her siblings. Very strange. But funny, her 2 sisters made a video speaking in all the diff languages, and also speaking in diff American accents.
He was 13 and in middle school when Japanese occupation ended in Korea. And the Korean language was banned at school. His Japanese was as good as anyone born and educated in Japanese Empire when the Pacific War ended in 1945.
RIP Charles Durning, the actor playing Senator Samuel Chapman. (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) He was a decorated WW2 vet & he was in first wave of infantry landing on Omaha beach during D-Day. He was the ONLY survivor of his unit that day. Just nine days after D-Day he severely wounded by a German anti-personnel mine, taking six months to fully recover. He later saw action in the Battle of the Bulge. By war's end he was decorated with the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts.
The old man wearing a bathrobe is Charles Durning he was a war hero during the WW2 he was awarded three Purple Hearts the silver star and the bronze heart , the only survivor of his unit that landed in omaha beach (D day) also participated in the battle of bulge
I think he was also one of only a small number that survived the massacre of US Prisoners of War. When the SS machine gunned them to death. But yeah, he witnessed, was in, and survived a lot of bad stuff during WWII.
Yes! One year he did a segment on the PBS Memorial Day Concert. Before it was overly eyes were terribly wet. You could see the pain in his eyes as he remembered it all and spoke. This was after I'd already served in the Navy. I joined the Navy for my reasons. But requested duty onboard the mighty Nimitz because of this movie. Serving on this great carrier was awesome.
Eddy Albert also received the Purple Heart & Congressional Medal of Honor, then went on to a distinguished tv/Hollywood career quietly entertaining us. Humility at its best.
Kbflorida888 - 1st of all, there’s NO such thing as congressional medal of honor, it is simply the Medal of Honor and it isn’t won, it’s awarded. 2nd, Eddy Albert wasn’t awarded the MOH
5:10 "26 November, six carriers left the Kuril Isles, north of Japan. The carriers were the Akagi, Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Hiryu, Soryu. Tomorrow at dawn, these carriers will send 353 planes to attack Pearl Harbor. Your code is, Climb Mount Niitaka." "Niitaka yama nobore."
@@Fregulus5 He grew up under the Japanese occupation, which is why his fluency in the language is so good. Japan's policy regarding Korea was seeing it as an outright colony, and they made efforts to supplant the local culture with their own. Learning Japanese was seen as a way to get better work, so some parents who wanted their children to succeed would have them learn the language.
Funny, this Japanese pilot is the sameone who was on an episode of M*A*S*H*. He surrenders to Hawkeye and BJ. He is also the one who wants to defect to America when the other prisoner doesn't want to.
Yeah, he did 5 or 6 different characters on MASH, at least as many on the original Hawaii 5-0, a Bond movie and a bunch of other stuff. And since Hollywood casting people can't tell the difference, this 'Japanese' pilot is Korean.
His name was Soon-Tek Oh. A South Korean born in 1932. Unfortunately, he passed away in 2018 but his list of movies was quite impressive. Among his claims to fame was as a voice actor for Disney's Mulan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soon-Tek_Oh
@@ColdCanuck50 He was the voice of Mulan's father - "I'll keep praying...!" He was actually in several episodes of MASH - they only had so many Asian actors to cycle through at that time, so wait a couple years and you'll see him again...
Semi-automatic fire ... Watch the Japanese airman's trigger finger he depresses the trigger over and over maybe they have it on a three-round burst but those weapons are not set to automatic fire.
A similar battle between modern jet fighters and WW2-ere fighter planes also happened in a Japanese light novel and its web novel version. In Nihonkoku Shoukan (Summoning Japan), 12 F-15J Kais and 15 Mitsubishi F-2s of the JASDF destroyed 85 Antares fighter planes (isekai Mitsubishi A6M5 Zero) of the Gra Valkas Empire.
Okay, if we are going suspend reality enough to accept time travel, I guess we must suspend reality on other things, as well. HOWEVER... I served in the Marines both with the Military Police and as shipboard security on Navy vessels. There are TWO glaring errors in this scene. First, Marine security personnel guarding a single man would be armed with a sidearm (a 1911 Colt .45 in those days) NOT an M-16 rifle, and the 1911 would be holstered. Second, IF for some unknown reason the ship's Captain DID order the Marines to carry M-16s, the weapons would have the selector switch set to 'safe', meaning it could not be fired until that switch was reset to either semi-automatic or full automatic. Even if the Japanese pilot managed to get the Marines rifle, since it was a weapon he had never seen before, how in hell did he know, without any hesitation, how to set the selector to full auto and blast away before the other security personnel could gun him down? Okay, I'm a dick and I admit it. Still loved the movie!
This scene made no sense at all. Why bring him aboard the ship? Also, since the pilot is an enemy combatant, why wasn't he in some sort of restraints? As cool as the movie is, this scene and the scene where the senator hijacks the rescue chopper kept it from being a better film.
@@killerdoritoWA Given her, um, history of 5 previous husbands, I'm surprised he had anything to do with her. While filming scenes in Key West she refused to even meet the F-14 and other pilots doing the arial scenes. Either anti military or just a snob...
This movie is I watched many times Careful consideration has been given to the Japanese people to feel comfortable from the beggining to the end It is made with exquisite balance It's a great Hollywood movie！
when I saw it in the theater nearly 45 years ago the line that impressed me the most was when the captain confidently expressed that the Nimitz could take on the Imperial Fleet by itself. Imagine, they sink the Japanese fleet then present themselves to Nimitz, Stimson, Stark, and FDR.
This reminds me of the classic star trek episode called "Tomorrow is yesterday " where the fighter pilot spots what he thinks is a ufo and gets beamed aboard the Enterprise. But with a more positive outcome!
Thanks for this, rewatched it last night. I attended the premiere and watched it with the United States Naval Academy Midshipmen, that was amazing by itself. I would love to see a remake of this movie or even something along the lines of the book “Weapons of Choice”
That pilot should have been the translator's father or grandfather who had survived the war. The translator knows this because he was translating in person, tells everyone dont kill the pilot, and when they do, the translator disappears, now thats perfect movie time travel drama!
He'd possibly know the 1911 as it was WWI vintage. What people are ignorant of is that Yamamoto went to college here in the US. He even warned that America had a gun behind every blade of grass. After Pearl Harbor he said "I fear we have only awoken a sleeping giant". He KNEW this countries ability regarding their failed attack.
Nov. 2, 2019----Always thought this was one hell of a good movie. I also read the book and at the ending where the 3 of them met each other at that guys limo on the dock has additional info. As in the commander was not only a multi-billionaire, he figured out how to travel thru time and as far as I know, return to the time of origination. Thanks for the video clip.
They are some fanfictions written about this scenario such as The Final Countdown: World War were the Nimitz and the Missouri from 1985 are transported instead
There's a story where a Japanese pilot crashed landed on one of the smaller Hawaiian island during Pearl Harbor, he waged a one man war on a village. He used a machine gun from the fuselage to kill people, then he ran into the village tough guy. He took a couple slugs from the pilot's sidearm but kept coming. It didn't turn out so well for the pilot.
The actor playing the Japanese is actor Soon-tek Oh! He’s not actually Japanese he’s Korean! He had a long acting career. Did I several episodes of MASH, Black Sheep Squadron, this movie and was in the movie Beverly Hills Ninja. RIP brother!👍
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams
I don't understand why a potential prisoner of war wouldn't cuffed or chained, or how would this guy even operate a assault rifle. Truly old movies don't make sense
I don't think he's Korean, I think he's Japanese/American. Let me look him up. OH, I guess you are correct, I was mistaken. I always thought he was Japanese. Soon-Tek Oh as IJN pilot Shimura. He is speaking Japanese quite well. Watashi wa Nihongo sukoshi o dekimasu.
Yes, he’s Korean. He was 13 and in middle school in Korea when the Japanese occupation ended in 1945. And only Japanese was allowed at school at that time. His Japanese is as good as anyone born and educated in Imperial Japan in 1940s.
As far as we know - most Westerners have no ear for Asian accents or their significance. My understanding is that Chow Yun-Fat's Mandarin in Crouching TIger, Hidden Dragon sounds on a native's ear like Hamlet being done in Mississippi. I agree with you - it sounds very brusque and clipped, but a native Japanese would probably hear Korea in it.
@@RevBoose It is a bit clipped, but the pronunciation and tenor is completely on point. (I'm Japanese btw) Soon grew up in Korea while it was under Japanese occupation, so I think it's entirely possible he might've picked up some up at a young age.
He was 13 and in middle school in Korea when the Japanese occupation ended in 1945. And only Japanese was allowed at school at that time. His Japanese is as good as anyone born and educated in Imperial Japan in 1940s.
The whole scene is pretty dumb and full of errors... but who cares was still a great "what if" film. Two obvious ones....The guard standing way too close to an unsecured prisoner, the fact he WASNT IN THE BRIG. A less obvious one is the empty pways. The only time a carrier is that quiet is during GQ and they are obviously not at GQ.
I love this movie. It would be awesome to see a remake where one of the 10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers goes back to December 6, 1941 and sunk the entire Japanese fleet about to attack Pearl Harbor, and then actually does sink them instead of being pulled back to the present.
And create a future where the Nimitz class never is built, because there wasn't a big war in the Pacific, thereby creating a paradox, eradicating the entire crew. You see, if you are sent back to the past, changing anything about it, could mean that you might not be born and many other decisions would also be made in a different way, leading to a quite different future. Which is why, in that movie, they opted to try to change as little as possible.
I am well aware of the paradox of traveling through time. Doesn't mean that a movie has to abide by it. I find time travel confusing, but I was disappointed when the Nimitz and her complement of planes didn't destroy the Japanese fleet.
Or just get Pear Harbor on high alert at the right time to be ready for the Japanese. There would still be losses, but probably about 1/4 of what actually did happen, and it probably still would have been enough to get the US to join the war effort.
+Ygor Nimoy Except for the electronics,the interior of USN ships in WWII pretty much look the same as modern ships,even the Nimitz,which was a brand new ship when this movie was made. Same paint scheme to denote which pipe does what & what compartment that you're in & which Division has cleaning responsibility for it.
and so, if Nimitz had been able to stop the Japanese fleet, the USA wouldn't have declared war on Japan, Germany wouldn't have declared war on the US, no invasion of Italy, no Overlord, no second front. USSR would have had to fight the only land war. Would Germany have won the 2nd World War?
your chain of logic is flawed. Nimitz attacking the Jap fleet IS a declaration of war. cant conclude from this that Hitler would not have declared war on us. Also Hitler was already at war with UK & France so he still would have a 2 front war and had already invaded USSR with divided forces. Hitler lost the war when he lost the battle of Britain. USSR would still have beaten Hitler since they had 18M troops to his 8M. But without the USA in Europe, the USSR might have run amok and taken all of Europe. A commie EU.
i would always catch this film on the late late show this movie joins the ranks of late late show cult classics like the changelling , trilogy of terror ,dillinger ,st.valentines day massacre, the long riders,and gargoyles ,great great film
I first saw this great film in 1986 while working freelance on a BBC drama up in the wilds of Scotland and the bloke who rented me the house had the biggest collection of sci-fi movies I'd ever seen. Wonderful though this film undoubtedly is, it suffers from a gigantic plot hole which is endemic to all time travel movies ... but I'm not saying what it is in case you haven't seen it yet. It's a long way down the list of plot hole films, that disgrace being forever 'Lord of The Rings.' I always wondered how many guys became fighter pilots after seeing this picture. Superb music score And Kirk Douglas! Awesome.
The Japanese Imperial six aircraft carriers, Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku. These carriers will send 353 planes to attack Pearl Harbor, on Sunday morning December 7, 1941 began at World War Two.
The hammers cocked and locked on the 1911 and it can't be fired. Plus, the japanese pilot is holding it in his left hand making the pistol very tough to operate or activate quickly...
Wasn't that four? Also, the first one to be done in held his 16 like he was on parade ground. He should have been a bit farther and with his rifle pointed towards the hostile prisonner. So much plot-convenience BS in this scene.
And that sailor did the right thing dodging the Marines running down the passageway. When a security alert goes down, you get the F out of the way or the response teams react as if you're part of the problem. It won't end well for you.
@@troysponsler504 Well, even tho you didn't ask, my next door neighbor was fatally shot 6 plus times across his chest by a relative over a domestic squabble. Sadly this happened during his young daughter's birthday party. The damage inflicted by that small handgun was considerable. So I can only imagine what the results of a larger calibre weapon would be.
I love how realistic they approached the whole situation in the entire movie, where are all those movies today with crappy storylines and dead plots, movies like these are rare.
What's funny about this, Marine guards generally wouldn't keep their weapons off safe, and also wouldn't stand that close to an unbound prisoner. But even if they HAD stood that close due to the somewhat cramped conditions you get on a ship, the weapon being off safe was a big nope, and if his weapon was safe as it should have been, he wouldn't have been able to just open up like that. He would have had to at least somewhat familiarize himself with the weapon first and in that time the other two marines would have beat the ever living hell out of him.
I thought exactly the same. Bet you he's never shot a weapon in full auto before either; most of those shots would be in the roof. But it's just a movie, a good one, but just fantasy.
Well,the 1911 had been in service for enough time that other countries could have gotten hold of them to familiarize their troops to some extent on how to use one. The AR15/M16's grip and safety are located in the same position for ease of use.
I just watched the whole movie for the second time after many years. One of my projects in recent years has been learning Japanese. So when we first see the Japanese pilot being interrogated by the Japanese speaking crewman, I was floored to find myself understanding most of the dialog in this scene and just before. The interrogator asks for the pilot's name. He replies, "Wasureta.", meaning "I forgot." The interrogator asks for either his serial number or his group name, and he replies "Omoimasen," meaning "I don't remember." He's playing tough. A little later, they messed up. The pilot says that if they tried to pull any more tricks on him, they'd regret it. The problem was, he used the word "trikku", which is a borrowed English word. As I understand the Japanese language and its history, a real Japanese pilot would not have said this in 1941. In those days, though the Japanese borrowed a lot of words from other languages, English was not a huge source of them. That only happened after the war, when we did not treat them as they expected we would. That, combined with a general belief that if you lose, something must be right about the winners, has led to modern Japanese treating English as something fashionable, or cool. So this pilot was using the language he would normally use: 1980s Japanese.
Japanese soldiers during WWII were actually trained to use automatic weapons mainly light machine guns but also the Type 100 submachine gun but even then was only issued in small numbers beginning in 1942 and many were destroyed because the ships transporting them were sunk en route by Navy submarines. The Type 100 is familiar to people today in games like Call Of Duty
By December 1941, WWII already started in Europe. In regards to the USS Nimitz taking out the Japanese fleet, I doubt it. The Nimitz is outnumbered, and even with more advanced weapons, it will suffer great losses....if not destroyed. An entire carrier battle group would have a much better chance.
@@dannytse8767 one carrier couldnt have simply because it wouldn't have carried enough ordinance for EVERY Japanese ship, but it could have taken out all of their capital ships and carriers, effectively neutering it as an effective threat.
It you have U.S.S. Enterprise together no more Wars starting as well as Germany will be destroyed in less time ! And make a movie about a modern 2020 U.S.A. Tank in a World War 2 Germany against the Hitler's Nazis socialist army . Travel back in time.
So.....if they go back in time to 1941, they kill a Japanese pilot. When they return to their own time, is the pilot alive again? These time travel paradoxes give me a headache. A "temporal migraine" as it were.
No, he would still be dead. I would assume that the only real problem would've been if he wasn't supposed to die at that moment or if he originally survived the war if it wasn't for the US carrier having gone back in time.
I remember seeing him on a couple episodes of M*A*S*H* back in the 70's. One when he surrenders to Hawkeye and BJ and the other when he wants to defect to America when the other prisoner won't.
All the people going on about the fact the actor isn't Japanese, wow, are you all triggered much? Does it really make that much of a fucking difference. Its like complaining that a British guy is playing an Italian guy. Its not a big deal. Its not like Samuel Jackson is playing the Japanese pilot. Or like having John Wayne play Genghis Khan (oh, wait, he did and its almost universally considered awful).
Poor ol' Soon-Tek Oh, biting the bullet(s). Sadly he actually passed almost a year ago, RIP While Korean by birth (under Japanese rule), he almost was cast as Japanese characters.
Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and Vietnamese. Hollywood casting agents don't know there's a difference, and a lot of Asian actors don't care as long as they're getting parts.
If this scene were to be seen, members of the navy military police would be very annoyed. They would never leave a prisoner with so few security measures and an idiot guarding the way the soldier who is distracted by a dog does. They lack military advice
when this movie was made there were not very many Asians in the screen actors guild so the same ones appeared everywhere the dude that just got shot was a regular extra on mash and kung fu
I was on this ship, 1980, The Marine Detachment, was to guard, NUKE on-load, Magazine, My work space, was right above, Magazine, to break, "Boredom" would have "SNIPE" Boot, kill Lights, to magazine, have Marine Duty, Section, respond, with M-16, to Power load center, and , Interrogate Unsuspecting "NEWBIE" . That was our "HAZING"
Soon Tek Oh, the actor playing the Japanese pilot is well traveled. He has played a pilot in WW2, he was a North Korean soldier on MASH and he was in the Vietnam War as a POW Camp Commander in Braddock: Missing in Action 2. Must have found his own time warp as his age hadn't changed much from movie to movie. lol
