Hi Sam, It would be good if Hornby were to produce the LNER K4 Mogul, especially “The Great Marquis” as preserved by the SRPS at Bo’ness. The K4’s were especially built for the West Highland Line, to replace the aging ex-NBR Scott’s and Glen’s. FYI the Diamond shaped sign on the smokebox identifies this locomotive as a North British Locomotive Works example built in Glasgow :)
Lamps fitted as they were electric on the 1:1 versions, I think, so would not have been fiited/removed in service. Good looking model ! Another good review!
Cracking loco Sam! As continental H0 modellers it was an absolute steal that time already as an upside in our frame of reference. Downside was of course that H was financially bleeding towards near bankruptcy. But this aside, for that money you can't complain at all, and apparently she has held well over time. Cheerio, and Happy Easter 🥚🐣🐇
I fully agree. I have several running for years now and they crack on as on the first day. As a continental too I can't complain about the Hornby quality of this loco in particular as with the J15's; O1's and even the S15's. Excellent value for the money and reliable in time. Success !
Thrilled you did this one! The K1 has long been one of my favorite locos and I finally bought one from Hattons as well a few years ago. Same comments you have about it - great detail and just a wonderfully smooth runner, absolutely a favorite of mine to run.
The funny thing is I remember seeing you first review this loco some years back and being quite impressed with everything about in particular how well it ran and for some reason, that's always stuck with me. Excellent review as always and I hope to add one to my fleet one day.
I snapped up one of these for cheap a few months back. I totally agree, it’s an absolute beauty. Runs so nicely on my layout and looks great pulling just about anything. A ripper!
I have one of these and they are really nice locos. Think when first produced Hornby flooded the market with K1s with initial release and more in the following year, hence why they stuck around for AGES. 62005 owned by the NELPG wore LNER Green for a time too
As you pointed out in you audio, the loco is in fact a Thompson/Peppercorn design, not a Gresley as your summary description suggests - although the prototype of this class was a rebuild of a Gresley K4.
Hi Sam. The diamond plate at the front shows that the loco was built by the North British company in Glasgow. A great loco. I have seen 62005 hauling the Jacobite in the West Highlands.
I have been waiting for this video for a long time , what a great video it is . Thanks for the great content, your reviews are a real for deciding whether to make a purchase or not .
Your odd one out is the B12, siding at the base of the hill I have gotten to try Hornby's new tender connection on the Dublo Scotsman that I reviewed. The new connection is awesome, reminds me of the one that Dapol have been using
Nice loco! I would like to see it back in the range too, provided it isn't hitting the £200 mark (or, if it is, then I'd want it to have upgrades like a firebox glow and die-cast running plate). I would definitely like to see it in LNER green too. It's even sort of prototypical: it was never carried in service AFAIK, but was carried in preservation for many years (and it looked very smart!)
Fair review of what I always considered to be one of Hornby's best locos (yes it has flaws, but overall it's pretty damn good) and a prototype I've always had a soft spot for, my first ever trip behind steam was the preserved K1 on the West Highland back when she was painted LNER green and hauling the cream and green coaches (that kinda dates it! also I wish Hornby would do a run of her in that livery because it was gorgeous). My example has always been a star performer, never putting a foot wrong and doing everything asked of it with no fuss or drama and it's a shame it's not in the range currently. PS, not defending Hornby here, but the warped running plate may be unintentionally accurate since they are fairly flimsy structures and can get fairly warped and battered over time (especially on locos that lead quite a hard life like these). For example, the gorgeous preserved Caledonian 812 no 828 sports running plates that quite clearly sag in the middle.
PPS, as you may have gathered, the preserved example spent it's early preservation career in LNER pre war green as no 2005. BR weren't keen on preserved steam locos running on the mainline in BR livery at the time (there were of course exceptions). She looked gorgeous in that livery, especially at the head of the cream and green set on the West Highland line.
Hi Sam, It is a 3-pole motor and I can confirm on DCC with a Hornby TTS decoder the crawl is remarkable as is the general performance. I have the two versions and also a weathered one. Top value for the money and one of the finest steamers on my 'working' railway. Together with the J15's - O1's and yes the S15's these are my work horses. Well designed and build, reliable, smooth running and good looking. Compared with my Bachmann 2MT & Ten Wheeler - always stalling on points - the quality of Hornby is superior and matches the Roco, Fleischmann, Trix and Piko engines I run on the layout. Even second hand you can't go wrong with the K1. A LNER version in apple green would be a fantastic addition to the fleet - but maybe not prototypical ? Cheers, Filip
This model has some really nice features and some great detail. Some of the molding is starting to look a bit rough, but overall it is a good looking model. Nice model considering it is a fairly old model in the scheme of things now. This is a great example of what a model locomotive should be like and hopefully what they can be again
A beautiful little loco, one of 2 classes of mogul currrently available in 4mm rtr that I don't have (the other being the Stanier mogul). I really want to get one now. 62005 has carried LNER apple green as 2005 in preservation, so I'd be surprised if hornby don't release that at some point.
The reason for the lamps is that the B1, K1 and L1 were all Thompson designs, and he pioneered electric generators on his locos. These lit the electric lamps which were permanently fitted, but crew also added the white LNER style lanterns above these for daytime running to show the headcode.
Yeah I agree these are great loco's. I've got a few of them now and they are all brilliant especially as I managed to get them all under a 100 quid each, they do put some modern releases to shame. I've never seen one in BR or LNER green but I would love to see a what if LNER green livery, I believe the Hush Hush LNER apple was a fictional livery (i could be wrong on that) but a repaint for a model they've already paid off the tooling costs wouldn't be to stressful for Hornby to pull off I think especially when they are willing to pay license fees for coca cola stuff. anyway great to see it get a spotlight Sam looking forward to the next one :)
Sam , I would paint one green myself and call it a “ Parallel Universe “ loco 😊 I taught Physics in college in the 90’s and the science behind this idea is solid 😊
i paid mine around GBP 130 from Gaugemasterretail in 2020 or 2021 (I have to pay the VAT apart at reception in France, that put a buying date after the B event...), and I have no issues with her. With Hornby nowadays, it is something to note... Mine is the 62065 in BR 5 black. As is, a good model overall. There is not a lot of things to do better : die cast footplate, modern tender-loco connection, a slower gearing, a five poles motor and a 21 pins DCC socket. Everything else is fine for me. This one will become a must-have on the second hand market.
Hi Sam, Great review, Just out of interest the Hornby Catalogue for 2014 lists the K1 as a new model with 3 pole motor.. Also new that year was D16/3, J15 and Drummond 700.....😱... Pity they can't release quality models like that every year..
The motor looks like a Mabuchi FK050 series (or a clone of it), which is a 3-pole design. The low speed is surprisingly good, but not quite as good as skewed or 5-pole motors.
hi sam. been awhile i watched your vids .. yes the K1 is a hansom loco to look at has a great finish, for its age it was built well. should hornby reintroduce these yes! as long as they dont over price them....
Nice engine, looks a lot better than the newer stuff, the warping on the running plate appears to be an I’ll fitting motion bracket being slightly higher than it should be , maybe lowering this will allow the running plate to straighten out, the loco lamps were electric, like the larger LNER express engines, the Southern also employed these, but engine men used to slip paper over the lens , to take the “ glare “ out of their brightness…most would turn these off and use the standard oil lamps…
This Hornby K1 is a pretty good model because it is simple to use and maintain. The price for the K1 from Hornby is reasonable for a 10 year old model Sam.
Great review of a model i've owned for years. I did have a problem with part of the motion of mine which I think is a weak point on this model and, as you mentioned, the eccrentric rod on your model has a siginificant bend in it which bears that out!!. I have mine renumbered as 62005, interestingly this sole preserved example carried 'LNER' green for years in preservation service and I'd love Hornby to model it in green too. Hopefully one day. Cheers, Luke
I've noticed sam that the valve gear is different on the other side it's the same for the S15, 8f, & the bachmann jubilee, why is that? Cheers Jasper & Willow
Nice locomotive overall but I would have to be in the mood to buy one because I’m not really a fan of mogul steam locomotives, in my entire collection only have one and it is an old hornby lms 2MT, also recently I have just been able to get hold of an LMS 10000 but it is made by dapol.
I’m a bit late to this video. Looks like a great model and interesting to see that Rails of Sheffield are selling pre-owned examples in excellent / as-new condition for just under £90, and it’s advertised as a 5-pole motor so perhaps it does deserve that extra star!
Yes, I can see it's the B12. Happy Easter, Sam. Hope you've been enjoying an Easter Egg or two. I take it you watched my ghost train video, and were too scared to comment. Don't apologise, I'm sorry if it was too scary.
Following the K1s, the very similarly sized BR standard class 4MT mogul of No. series 76xxx was redesigned under Riddles direction by Doncaster locomotive drawing office in the early 1950s and 25 of the 115-strong class were manufactured at The Plant there, the very last new steam locos constructed at Doncaster. The standard 4MT was based very closely on a previous design by George Ivatt, the last LMS CME, who was the son of the former GNR CME Henry Ivatt, Sir Nigel Gresley's predecessor.
Well there was already another K1 before this designed by the famous Gresley and introduced to the GNR as the H2 Class but when they were absorbed into the LNER they were reclassified as K1 but then Gresley rebuilt the K1's into K2's cause of a shortage of Gresley K1 boilers thus making the K1 slot vacant until Thompson designed the K1 shown in this video but was given modifications by Peppercorn before the production batch were finished Edit: I think Peppercorn just finished the production of the Thompson K1's
I have thought for a while this is one of Hornby’s best locomotives over the past 10 years. I’m hoping they do an LNER green one at some point as the real life example used to have this livery on the NYMR
I have issues with the body removal on my example of this model. I undo the two screws as per the instructions and the body is still firmly in place! Any ideas?
Sam, I have a question. I remember having a train set (way back when) and I am sure that you used to put some drops of liquid down the funnel and it used to make smoke. Am I imagining it and can trains still make smoke? Can't say I've seen any do it on RU-vid.
There was another K1, designed by Gresley for the GNR. In LNER days all of these were rebuilt as K2s, leaving the K1 slot empty until these ones came along
