The First Kings of Iberia: The Argaric Culture 

Excellent video, Dan, I had no idea this culture existed! I've noticed you read "Únětice" with a "k". Únětice are a village near Prague and it's read with a "c" like in "cycling" or "cider" - Czech is an extremely hard language, so I don't blame you for mixing it up, and you've got the rest of the word quite right ;)

remember that they are forced to cooperate with police, so your DNA may help the police bring you or your family to justice if you ever commit a crime (or your child or uncle) :)

Did you see the Reuters article about King Tut having european DNA haplogroup in his Y chromosome?

You should read a book called Yorkshire Folk Talk, the vicar tells of the people of the east coast north of the Humber before the modern age and how they spoke and also his journey across to Denmark in the late 1800s to sample their language and compare it to what the locals spoke.

The closely built buildings in Spain is to keep out heat...

Dan is the best at this I've encountered on my long and wide journeys on RU-vid

Yes, and with professional self-restraint of bias or agendas.

@@notbobrosss3670 ???

Well said!!

As long as you like cultural marxism and loads of left wing propaganda!

The History Channel is why nobody misses the History Channel

The History Channel no longer gives a damn about history

Well said

They should probably change the name of their channel.

The History Channel did everything but history! 🙂

Y yo

Bueno, no hay que caer en lo absurdo.

@@c.a.s.anphorachiclana7434 ñiñiñi

Bueno, Conan se rodó en parte en Cuenca, jajaja

The movie was shot in the ancient kingdom of Almeria, I feel this proves your point :D

I mean, at least the good news with the plastic, is we'll be able to date the trash layers and sort out what belongs with what... But yeah, disrespect for the past begins where disrespect for the present starts.

Aqui en Mallorca se construyo el aeropuerto encima de lo que entonces era la capital de la cultura talayotica en la isla, sin hablar de la cantidad de talayots en propiedad privada sin excavar o en estados lamentables que existen hoy dia.

Don't forget the oldest basketry, espadrilles and use of opium poppy, found in the Cueva de Murcielagos de Albuñol.

The true cultural inheritors are those people that appreciate the history, not those that live nearby or are related physically.

I feel you. I'm originally from the Canary Islands although I currently live in northern Spain. Pre-hispanic archaeological sites in Canary Islands are forgotten or have been destroyed to build touristic complexes 🙃 The tourist industry is more important than preserving our history and natural spaces, I guess. When there won't be any interesting and natural spaces in the islands, tourists will stop coming and the islands will become a graveyard for derelict ugly hotels and shopping centers 🙃✌🏻

Indo european!

And people wonder what our ancestors did to the Neanderthals.

It seems the strategy hasn't changed

Ironically, over 1,000+ years later, the Spaniards did the same thing to the native men in the Americas.

@@TheBigdaddy64 their diseases did at least.

Publications about El Argar are almost exclusively in Spanish. The register used in them is certainly not easy to follow either.

@@richardcook5919 Times like this I regret only knowing English.

La Historia dé España está maldecida por la “ LEYENDA NEGRA “ con lo cual es muy desconocida en el Mundo 😢

Did youREALLY bring the tired and dimwit "underrated" Trope here?

@@briseboy Well, I think calling this topic underrated and underused is completely justified. Compare the amount of popscience content (books, videos on YT, TV shows) about ancient Greece, Rome, Britain, Mesopotamia or even China and India, to content about ancient Iberia. There's hardly anything.

I guess this is probably related to both the Spanish dark legend and that Spaniards are usually not very fluent in English. But in terms of archeology archeology and archeologists it's a treasure trove.

Yes of course the unknown for foreigners of Pre-foreigners cultures of Spain is impresive normally the civilizations for foreigner RU-vid videos in English begining in Román Era or another foreign culture is incredible no known autentic roots of Iberian Peninsula with Iberians ; Tartessians or Celts very advanced cultures demonstred in a large Archeological objects with Lady of Elche and many others objects or historical very important historical facts with Viriatus Hero Lusitanian or brave Iberian Numancia City agaisnt Rome in few exemples

There were hardly any "original Iberians" by the time of Celts. There were only Celt-Iberians and non-CeltIberians at that time. One being descended from the Celts and the others from an ancestral population similar to the Celts. The original Iberian population was kind of wiped out by the Bell beaker invasions long ago.

Exactly, because parts of Spain (and Portugal, where I'm from) have similar weather and geological characteristics to some US states like Arizona or parts of California and Texas. The wildlife differs, but thats about it.

@@TruthMatters9674Like in biological evolution there is a term called "convergent evolution" ... we can make an analogy that regardless of the time frame in a similar environment, culture ends adopting or reaching similar solutions.

Maybe they came here to Europe before. I’m saying this because of the name of mexico which can come from metxico (Meri and Txico) deities from all iberia. Meri and txico they are know nowadays as basque deities.

True. Kind of similar to that of some West African groups like the Dogon, Tellem, and ancient Toloy (and the ancient towns of Djenne Jeno and Dia) too (and somewhat the Lobi, Gurunsi/Talensi, Bamana, and Soninke - also West African), who also lived/live in a semi-dry rocky environment). It's also like that of some ancient Middle Eastern towns like Jericho in Neolithic Anatolia.

The Portuguese live in the Iberian Peninsula, the peninsula has that name because the greeks first encountered the Iberians when sailing towards the peninsula from greece. But the iberians habitated the southern east of the peninsula, not what’s nowadays Portugal. The portuguese are not ethnic iberians, even though they live in the Iberian Peninsula (the same for galicians or basques)

@@Tusiriakest What in the world are you smoking lmfao

My Portuguese brother

Awesome, thanks so much for watching.

Cheers Pete, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah I was holding off making this until I could go to the sites but I couldn't wait any more. La Bastida should be a good visitor experience when it's all done.

You could add a visit to Cancho Roano and to La Motilla de Azuer

I spent four months in Moscow and I was told it is not well mannered for visitors to stand at the door way because in ancient times they buried their families right at the door way, I guess it was as a form of protection (ancestors protection) but I have not found texts about it. It might have a tradition in other European countries.

On the contrary all European s have Iberian blood-lines especially the Irish and

No eres Español?

Sí, ¿por?@@Benito-lr8mz

Sí, ¿por? @@Benito-lr8mz

I couldn't agree more. Firmly in the top. The way he is able to transport me with his storytelling, honest accuracy, visuals and narration to the worlds and lives of peoples and cultures long past to a degree unequalled on RU-vid. Can't wait untill I can afford his books and be transposed accross time by this storyteller

Dan Davis, Cool Worlds, and Anton Petrov for me.

@@shantiescovedo4361 damn that's close to my top 3: Dan Davis, Cool Worlds and Isaac Arthur. If I am even able to honestly condense it to only 3 😅

@@jezusbloodie I think I have listened to almost every Isaac Arthur talk for the last three years, but I typically listen to him as a podcast, while I watch the others as RU-vid videos. Cool Worlds has a good podcast now as well. Dan has such a positive feeling to his videos and it makes me wish I could I could spy on these ancient cultures somehow.

@@jezusbloodie did you see there odd also a new Cool Worlds video today as well?

Yes, me too. I keep trying to figure out which way up it should go, as the photo of the skull showed it moon “down” while illustrations showed it moon “up”. But maybe it varied according to whether someone was of childbearing age, or married or not - or maybe alive or not.

No, it was an artistic licence, it was used in the down position.​@@eh1702

It looks so like irish torc to me.

Great input!

just cut the crap , olalde , published his studies twice meaning he does not have a clue to Iberian gene pool , iberians today are not the iberians of 4000 years ago

@@robertolang9684 I think you replied to the wrong comment, mate.

@@robertolang9684 i am at a loss as to why this is a reply to what I said.

@@JustGrowingUp84 na all that crap is based in olalde studies that is just rubbish, he dna tested samples of 1400 in andaluzia calling them berbers , and most of that samples were male r1b , only females were mtdna berber, the guy was a joke , there is a sample j1 in ampurias that he even did not published the results , they distort the findings of the tests to suits they narrative like saying basques 100% iberian and then saying the iberians are different from basques carrying the same amount of iberian , ha ha ha

That's actually a really interesting observation. Perhaps the sea peoples would not have been as successful as they were, had there been massive forests blocking their way. And for that matter, maybe the disease and strife that unleashed them would not have been as easily spread.

Nah your uneducated even feeding some evil force in your brain some phantom trying to keep you misinformed yeah you don't study enough

How was any of this being suppressed?

You've confused not being popular with suppression

Y vives en Islandia?🤔

It is not suppressed, it is merely something most people have very little interest in.

No, los tartesios tomaron el alfabeto de los fenicios. Eso es seguro, puesto que antes de la llegada de los fenicios a la península hay inscripciones fenicias en oriente. Es verdad que hay algunos charlatanes que consideran que las inscripciones alfabéticas que se hayan en monumentos megalíticos del bronce probarían una existencia anterior de la escritura en España. Es obvio que esas inscripciones son posteriores a los monumentos en sí. Y probablemente fuesen realizadas por los fenicios o por los propios tartesios.

That would be awesome

Oh wow I'd love to read a story like that. I find history doesn't stay in my brain until i have read a story set in that time and place and then it draws a picture that sticks in my mind. Hopefully when you've finished the story you will post a link to it here.

There is also something else about R1B1. Rhesus disease. Populations where it is common have a relatively high incidence of rhesus-negative blood groups. If rh- women have a rh+ partner, (especially if he has a double inheritance of the relevant antigen) then these women they have a fair chance of an immune reaction - usually after the first pregnancy - which can severely affect subsequent pregnancies. Without modern medicine, that is. Her immune cells cross the placenta and start attacking the baby’s red blood cells. So what if there were plenty of women that came along with R1B1 males, but took local partners (similar to how the Normans got their feet under the “peace” table after the Conquest). Over just a few generations, their lineages could well die out. No doubt about it, they were…acquisitive and, er, forceful guys. But anyway, it’s a thought.

The German town name, _AUJENTITZ_ it used to be much more common to read, in the earlier decades of that culture discovery and studies.

@@pendragonU that's because we were forced to use German as the official language during that period, the land, however, has always been Czech, and so were the archeologists, so what's your point?

That’s a logical conclusion to come to when enough is known about a culture.

Ha!

Probably not. Ireland and Spain has a very, very long relationship. During the horror of the Irish Famine, the second European places to emigrates for the Irish was Spain. You could be a descendant of a marriage of an Irish and a Spanish who came back from Spain to Ireland. If you has a 15%, it could be one of your grandparents...

The Celts are now proven to have come from Iberia up and not the reverse. That's a possibility as well.

One of the possibly location of legendary Atlantis

@@Benito-lr8mz The most logical location in my opinion. Plato says it was buried under mud and we know that the Guadalquivir Marshes used to be a lagoon. This would have made a perfect harbor for trade flowing through the Pillars of Hercules.

Good point!

It’s only like that since the French Revolution, when men decided to stop being peacocks, be discreet (for the sake of keeping their heads) and just let their ladies do the flaunting of their wealth. Women in the Iberian peninsula had a prestigious role even before El Argar; the Millares Culture during Copper Age was led by a queen, the so-called Ivory Lady.

Thank you. There is some debate on which way they were worn. Reconstructions show wearing it downward doesn't fit properly over the nose. Some believe the diadem was inverted in death - as death is an inversion of life, like the setting of the sun or moon - and worn upwards in life.

Yamnaya culture a misterious culture is posibly the Ukraine-Russia región the "male ethnic clean" ocurred in vast part of Europe for this misterious culture

The researcher whose study was the base for that sensationalistic theory was so horrified that it was so misunderstood by the press (“they killed all men!”) that refuses to speak to the press again. He says that it never was a slaughter, but a slow, gradual process that lasted 500 years.

No signs on the hard facts Archaeological records proving such genetical shift by massacres or warfare. Most probably, and easier by economic advantages livestock breeders had, disease or social blockers and rural vs. urban remains found in different proportions. Scant number of remains in those centuries (only around 200 specimens from the 2 millions estimates that lived in 4 centuries in the whole peninsula)

Ancient ethnic cleansing models are mostly mythical. Being shot down more and more by actual, real evidence. It's a common mistake to think that "oh they killed all the males!" When male DNA becomes absent. In reality; new blood type emergence/ differences seem to be the reason why Denisovans couldn't reproduce well with humans. Merging peacefully with them - explains why we have so much of their DNA in us. Many probably took humans as partners, but without modern science, wouldn't understand why the mother would miscarry and go into preeclampsia due to baby/mother blood type mismatch. This is brand new research. Cutting edge. Remember the ethnic cleansing story/rumor of the Neanderthal dissapperance? (Ironically, here in Iberia?) Well, in today's Portugal the "last refuge of Neanderthals," they found mutations in Neanderthal DNA that made it impossible for male Neanderthals to have a male baby with a female human. It doesn't take more than a few generations of living / merging together as a species for the male DNA to completely disappear. So what about human on human, post advent of civilization migration and violence? Ethnic cleansing is pretty rare in the ancient world. There are no crusades, not much religious fervor/hate... as pagans don't care what other pagans do and believe. Migrants can bring new diseases to populations without immunity. Native Americans did not get wiped out by war. 94% of their population loss - credited to new epidemics. Also - The bronze age is an age of slavery. Very little ethnic cleansing ever existed when people were worth money to sell after battle. Abolishing slavery - had the unfortunate side effect of popularizing ethnic cleansing. More holocausts have occurred in modern times than in the distant past, where it was anomaly. Lastly, people in the crowd of ethnic cleansing have to explain one thing that they can't. It takes pretty much true psychopaths to commit mass murder. That's why Jews had to be sent off to camps, the average German soldier would absolutely refuse orders to make mass graves, and shoot civilians into them. Of those that obeyed, most of them killed themselves. In depression. Our basic human psychology has never changed. Many Romans were ashamed/appalled at what happened to Carthage. Most Roman soldiers did not kill innocents - but the city caught fire, and it became an urban fire storm. Roman hatred was evident, but most couldn't bring themselves to commit mass murder. I feel if the male DNA disappeared, for the bronze age, the most likely explanation is the slave trade. Male slaves are the strongest and the most valuable. Underground mining in the ancient past was very unsafe. That could be key to the mystery here. Bronze. Bronze itself. For the first time in human history, hard rock, underground mining occurs - and must be sustained for modern life. There's a new demand for robust slaves - in quantity. Just like in other cities of the bronze age, the captives become slaves. If the healthiest males and females were shipped off to the mines that would explain pretty much everything. The ones that are beautiful and delicate, those are kept by the captors.

I dont think the iberians spread all the way to Portugal =\