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The FIRST Kong 2650 Supercharger... | RPM S8 E27 

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On Today's Episode of the RPM Web Series, we get our hands on the first Kong Performance 2650 supercharger for CTS-V. In this video we give you and in depth before and after test as well as head to the track for further testing.
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@davidconley3610
@davidconley3610 4 года назад
You just sold Kong a bunch of his blowers!!
@EliteOnTheBeat
@EliteOnTheBeat 3 года назад
The whipple 2.9l supercharger system is better. 😎
@421ssrida
@421ssrida 2 года назад
@@EliteOnTheBeat whipples are known for locking up. And the 2.9 will only make abt 1030-1050 max. Twin screw blowers can't produce the pwr of small Roots blowers. It takes a 4.0 whipple to produce the same pwr as a Maggie or kong 2650.
@khuramsayeed8429
@khuramsayeed8429 2 года назад
Mad Props Gangster at Tuning!
@NickySull
@NickySull 3 года назад
Kong powah
@keefespencer1173
@keefespencer1173 4 года назад
That is great numbers out of that blower built by Kong and good gain of hp and tq just switching over to his blower I knew it was only a matter of time on when he was going to come out with his own blower and a good comparison of the 2 on the dyno but I do think it would be more of an apple's to apple's comparison if you had the same exact pulleys on Kong's blower as the LSA blower even though it already blows the LSA blower out of the water I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking isn't Joey the same guy who has the ATS-V for his wife to race? If so she is going to want Kong to build a blower that will fit her car now and I know that Kong mainly does porting work and up until now he only has a few products that he's made and has his name on it but now these blowers is really going to get his business off the ground and he's really going to be making money now and I can't wait to see what he comes out with next I think it would be awesome if he came out with like a 3.0 liter twin screw blower to go on an LS7 or LS3 that you can use a factory hood with but I will leave with saying this that is one hell of a sleeper-grocery getter atleast now he don't have to worry about his ice cream melting before he gets it home because he can make it home in about 9 seconds flat now lol
@IlIlIIllIlIlIIll
@IlIlIIllIlIlIIll 4 года назад
I read that as it was written. Two. Sentences.
@jonnyonwheels
@jonnyonwheels 4 года назад
Something tells me Fran is making calls trying to come up with a shortblock for the ZR1! And that steering wheel IS sick!
@MrMikevazquez
@MrMikevazquez 4 года назад
A couple of mustangs are running 8's with Kong ported Edelbrock 2650's and stock short block. Crazy what this world has come to. 8 second cars use to have to get trailered to the track now daily driver..
@jerryb9591
@jerryb9591 4 года назад
mike vazquez that’s a fact. The race world has gone wild
@Ruthless-1699
@Ruthless-1699 4 года назад
The REAL muscle car era is NOW!
@kylerichards677
@kylerichards677 4 года назад
@@Ruthless-1699 no the technology era
@jm361
@jm361 3 года назад
lol and to think waaaay back in the day (1996-2003) high 11's to low 12's was "fast"..
@kylepayne2120
@kylepayne2120 4 года назад
Well, back to the corner holding a sign "Kong has new blower, need money!!!"
@doozerchuck8625
@doozerchuck8625 4 года назад
They are half the price of an lsa
@TheAcepete1
@TheAcepete1 4 года назад
@@doozerchuck8625 what??? An LSA bare blower new from gm is 1800 and this new blower is almost 6 grand.
@Dr.RichardBanks
@Dr.RichardBanks 4 года назад
No shit man I need to start hoeing and get my cash up.
@patrickm.blanchard8497
@patrickm.blanchard8497 4 года назад
holy shit, Greg is in the money now! I wanna see one on the ZR1
@mericafreedomland3583
@mericafreedomland3583 4 года назад
Patrick M. Blanchard the guy is the super hero us LS9 and LSA guys needed....
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 4 года назад
@@mericafreedomland3583 wats the difference between ls9 and lsa GO !!!
@mericafreedomland3583
@mericafreedomland3583 4 года назад
Mr. TAMW well LS9 is basically a forged LSA, rods crank pistons are all stronger, lsa has a 1.9 blower ls9 has 2.3, im sure there are some more but thats the main differences i believe
@ElijahWash
@ElijahWash 4 года назад
He did the zr1 already it picked up 130whp. Went from 940whp to 1070.
@patrickm.blanchard8497
@patrickm.blanchard8497 4 года назад
@@ElijahWash he already put on on his white C6ZR1?
@alexpohl6435
@alexpohl6435 4 года назад
So will one of these 2650 be going onto frans Zr1 ?
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 4 года назад
Incredible
@klarkqent
@klarkqent 4 года назад
Denmah approves
@julio_rm9233
@julio_rm9233 4 года назад
Who else is waiting for the Mightnight ZR1 to get one? 👀👀👀
@winchracing64
@winchracing64 4 года назад
I can see the "Domonic toretto" memes already !! "It's got a kong 2650 blower ! Not a bad way to spend $5000" haha
@tracewallace23
@tracewallace23 4 года назад
Fran's ZR1 is about to be renamed King Kong when he gets that "special one off" Kong blower for all of this work😏😏😏😎
@BB-fv2dw
@BB-fv2dw 4 года назад
My wife tried taking my phone in middle of video she almost lost a ✋ Awesome work and yes that would look good on Fran's ZR1
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 4 года назад
LMAOOOOOOOO
@williammccloud7126
@williammccloud7126 4 года назад
🤣🤣
@eastoakland-S65feen
@eastoakland-S65feen 4 года назад
Yea thats a nono. My wife & 6yr old daughter know when im watching racing vids nothing matters😂😎
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 4 года назад
So this full weight CTSV with all the options still in tact, still rocking a 6 speed auto and IRS, with no crazy amount of money thrown into the suspension runs 9.1 at 150+ shortly after putting on the 2650. What has Guitarmagedon run with his LSX block, TH400, thousands in suspension, hole cut in his hood, and plenty of weight reduction run in his ZL1? If I remember correctly he hasn't run an 8 yet and if this setup was in a car like his with all the supporting modifications he's done it should run mid to low 8s easily. I've never felt like his car was setup by competent shops anyway.
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 4 года назад
@@msw7021 oops
@ronmcbee4743
@ronmcbee4743 4 года назад
He just set the record for a gen 6 zl1. But before that happened I was of the same opinion. I think it’s his smug attitude
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 4 года назад
@@ronmcbee4743 I am glad he set the 6th gen record but his 5th gen has never performed anywhere near what it should. Imagine if this CTSv had as much weigh reduction and quarter mile prep poured into it as his 5th gen does. It would easily be a mid 8 second car. His car has never done what it should and every video of his I have watched when he takes it to the track he seems to be taking open step forward and eight steps back. RPM swapped the supercharger out on this car, Fran tuned it, they went to the track and within 2 passes had enough data to leave the line hard and make a full pass. It left the line and made a full power pass without issue. The last video I watched of him racing his 5th gen he was having throttle body or MAF issues after he spent all that money on upgrading the suspension. His car makes the power on the dyno but has yet to put it down for 1320 feet.
@ronmcbee4743
@ronmcbee4743 4 года назад
06 TrailblazerSS no argument, point taken. I’m going to get one.
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 4 года назад
@@ronmcbee4743 a CTSV or Kong 2650? Since this Caddy went a 9.1 I wonder if a 5th gen would be any faster and if so how much. Or if this setup was in a 5th gen with some weight reduction (not insane race car level weight reduction) a torque converter, suspension, and drag pack would run. How far in the 8s this setup could go. Personally I would love this setup in a no option hard top 4th gen SS Camaro with tubular suspension, coilovers, TH400, converter, 9" rear, lightweight brakes and a 15" drag pack. I had a 6 speed hard top SS 4th gen with manual seats, windows and locks no cruise. With only tubular K member control arms as the weight reduction and a Moser 9" and coilovers (not sure if lighter or heavier than stock shocks and springs) offsetting some of that weight loss but it was pretty damn light. I don't remember exactly the weight but with a TH400 it would probably be lighter than a T-56 but the LSA with the supercharger and heat exchanger and all would weigh more than the head and cam NA LS1 I had. I've seen the LSA supercharger under a 4th gen cowl with the K member spaced so it could fit. A 4th gen with this LSA, TH400, suspension and 9" should weigh less than 3500lbs 1000lbs less than this CTSv. So 7s shouldn't be difficult at all and while this is an optimized LSA build it isn't a ludicrous extreme setup so it doesn't seem like something that couldn't be driven a good bit and not be unbearable. Hell you could even keep AC and heat and have a 4L80E instead of a 400 and drive it anywhere. Damn, now I want another 4th gen to put a LSA in.
@PrimedEvil388
@PrimedEvil388 4 года назад
Low 9's in a fully dressed ctsv... Doesn't get much better
@adam0bt
@adam0bt 4 года назад
and no cage
@obezzyjohnson9680
@obezzyjohnson9680 4 года назад
Factz shiiii fast asf for full weight n all except for wheels n tire
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing 4 года назад
Exept caddzilla ran 7s in a qtr with full interior and working onstar lol..1320 has video proof..lol
@raypowell5268
@raypowell5268 4 года назад
I have a 3.6 kenne bell blower. I would let you put it on the same car and see if it makes any more or less power.
@detoxx03
@detoxx03 4 года назад
Ray powell probably make less and create a lot more heat
@larrysanders5606
@larrysanders5606 4 года назад
I’ll take it😅
@mauricecooper176
@mauricecooper176 4 года назад
Would have like to seen what the 2650 would have made with 15 PSI
@wesleybeeson1818
@wesleybeeson1818 4 года назад
My guess is similar to lsa but cooooooooollllerrrrr!!
@ESFoxwell
@ESFoxwell 4 года назад
Greg seeing that slip and knowing he's about to make bank on this. 😂 Hats off to everyone. This shit has me so energized to get my car where it needs to be to handle that blower.
@williamstanfield1216
@williamstanfield1216 4 года назад
Fran “just the facts nothing else”.
@Jgezy
@Jgezy 4 года назад
Fran is a tuning wizard! This thing is Full effort 1010hp on stock trans and converter! That's crazy! Just shows what a good shop and tuner can do! 🤙🏽
@keefespencer1173
@keefespencer1173 4 года назад
That run where he spun the tires he also toted the front wheel for a second I seen light between his wheel and the concrete
@obezzyjohnson9680
@obezzyjohnson9680 4 года назад
Yea I caught that also bro. Caught lil air time
@lee_tammynormandy4096
@lee_tammynormandy4096 4 года назад
The day this was sneak released, my Lingenfielter parts showed up...If I had only waited a week.... FACK me! I need this setup! I want this setup!
@jeremykonieczny4887
@jeremykonieczny4887 4 года назад
They switched from a 1.9L to a 2.65L, which is a 40% larger supercharger. It's no wonder the boost pressure increased 36%, and the power went up 17%...
@n5yiz
@n5yiz 4 года назад
At least somebody on here is paying attention.
@thaspaatz_1158
@thaspaatz_1158 4 года назад
Would the 150hp gain still be the same on a 376ci vs the 416ci?
@austindoud273
@austindoud273 4 года назад
It would be a precent gain
@justalsa421
@justalsa421 4 года назад
Finally the video we been waiting for 🤙🏽
@GNX157
@GNX157 3 года назад
I ran some numbers that say the engine was making more than 1010hp, I’d say closer to 1200hp at the track. That was a fast mph for the ET so there’s more left in the ET if it can get hooked up and 60ft better, probably mid 8.8’s, but in the process the mph will likely be a bit less. It would seem odd but when the same car gets a better ET the mph will drop, because it had less time to build speed. This can be seen just in the two runs where he launched easy but still went 152+ and then the better ET it was just over 151.
@fbanda20
@fbanda20 4 года назад
About time the LSA guys get more options. This is exciting!
@outlawperformancegarage5211
@outlawperformancegarage5211 2 года назад
Hell yeah it’s an amazing supercharger. I can’t wait to get mine on!! I am in for 1100 rear wheel
@micahbuchheit1283
@micahbuchheit1283 4 года назад
Definitely a keeper!! Time to collect cash on the streets and sell tickets at the track. Beast Mode!! Love seeing power/torque increases like that from bolt-ons.
@williamfstackjr
@williamfstackjr 4 года назад
Can you use a interchiller on the 2650?
@LaseredIllumination
@LaseredIllumination 4 года назад
Awesome and informative comparison. What's funny about it though...you could provide every single piece of information possible and people are still gonna b%@!$. Haters gonna hate
@RaceProvenMotorsports
@RaceProvenMotorsports 4 года назад
100% fact haha
@bennett1586
@bennett1586 4 года назад
You know it's a good day when you can send a non-gutted four door sedan down the track and run loooowwww 9's and probably even lower if need be..
@slow.muscle
@slow.muscle 4 года назад
Damn, insane results the guys over at kong performance really know what theyre doing. Really impressive gains and awesome video explaining the two systems.
@eddied.2100
@eddied.2100 4 года назад
Designed and manufactured by Edelbrock in Torrance CA USA!
@rasro
@rasro 4 года назад
What?
@adams733
@adams733 4 года назад
Gentlemen. The only people that are experts in supercharging are Eric, myself and anyone who likes this comment because we owned GTP’s. And we can firmly say this is bad ass blower.
@cornfed_zed7327
@cornfed_zed7327 4 года назад
I'll see y'all soon @raceprovenmotorsports muhahahahaha
@aumetalmental8403
@aumetalmental8403 4 года назад
Awesome performance with that swap. Especially, without a cam change.😎
@Joeymack5959
@Joeymack5959 4 года назад
The labeling of the stock mufflers is fantastic.
@seanowen3762
@seanowen3762 4 года назад
Awsome, great work RPM and Greg. Now make one for the 2017 Camaro ZL1.
@slowvette7189
@slowvette7189 4 года назад
Solid video guys 👍 It’s been a while since I watched an entire 40 minute video without skipping.
@Slappnutz
@Slappnutz Год назад
Erectuon as well
@detoxx03
@detoxx03 4 года назад
Great stuff guys, very informative. Btw what idiots disliked this video? Nothing to not like about this. Keep up the great work.
@brandonpanozzo86
@brandonpanozzo86 4 года назад
#TRUTH
@Luckytmj97
@Luckytmj97 4 года назад
I wanna a v2 or v3 they are sexy omg they sound as good as they look
@n5yiz
@n5yiz 4 года назад
So you made more power with an additional 6 lbs of boost? Maybe I missed something, but why is that revolutionary?
@RaceProvenMotorsports
@RaceProvenMotorsports 4 года назад
Keep watching
@n5yiz
@n5yiz 4 года назад
@@RaceProvenMotorsports I'm not trying to be smart or anything....just trying to see what I'm missing.
@RaceProvenMotorsports
@RaceProvenMotorsports 4 года назад
Lsa blower is maxed out. So if your thinking in your head “make 6 more psi with the LSA blower”. We can’t. That’s why a bigger blower.
@ESFoxwell
@ESFoxwell 4 года назад
It's making more boost spinning the blower less. Pretty much exactly why the LSA isn't the supreme blower all the nut swingers say it is. This is badass. Interested to see how much boost this blower will make for guys willing to push the limit.
@drewdalesandro672
@drewdalesandro672 4 года назад
Wait that damn Red Station wagon @2:24 was legit!
@travisemmerton874
@travisemmerton874 4 года назад
Are you gonna put on of these on the ZR1 when you fix it ???
@carlosmendiola8874
@carlosmendiola8874 4 года назад
416 been finished with in this month, LSA has been sold expect a phone call soon and a customer from Texas ordering one. This will be going on a SS sedan that already had an LSA swap with a stock LSA blower......Question though reason you all launch in 2nd.
@MrMikevazquez
@MrMikevazquez 4 года назад
Kong does good porting for the Edelbrock blowers also
@charlesheatherly9164
@charlesheatherly9164 4 года назад
Is there any chance you guys will open a motorcycle division to build and tune bikes?
@spdkilz9997
@spdkilz9997 4 года назад
I have watched this video every day of the quarantine
@MichaelBacon212
@MichaelBacon212 4 года назад
Way to go Kong Performance. Enjoy seeing your products here and on Complete Street Performance channel.
@JustinTheJT
@JustinTheJT 4 года назад
Science Fran is very informative. We need more Science Fran.
@larrynewberry3500
@larrynewberry3500 4 года назад
Very impressive. Spinning a blower slower and making that kind of power. Can't wait to see what happens with more track time and tuning. 👍
@adambrooks2297
@adambrooks2297 4 года назад
Fran I love your videos, it's the only real GM channel on here,by the looks of it you run a series shop too,I will be sure to bring my toys to you this spring for tuning!
@christophercaruso448
@christophercaruso448 4 года назад
That supercharger is AWESOME!!! GREAT WORK KONG... and RPM
@Keitho07c6
@Keitho07c6 4 года назад
I have a 4.5 whipple with a built motor. The whipple is such a disappointment. Oversized pos
@CamaroThings
@CamaroThings 4 года назад
Greg... you need to stop. You make things that make me 🥰 you
@cthornsburg5
@cthornsburg5 4 года назад
Will you do a test with the ls9 and the Kong 2650
@mrnonamenobody6910
@mrnonamenobody6910 4 года назад
🤔 Wonder how competitive the price will be.....looks to be a great piece...👍👍
@EliteOnTheBeat
@EliteOnTheBeat 3 года назад
Whipple........no need to speculate the youtube videos speak for themselves.......
@richgendron9999
@richgendron9999 4 года назад
Great show everybody😎👍 so informational love it!!
@gsppuffer
@gsppuffer 4 года назад
Little slip or flare on 3-4 shift?
@I5ZQ8
@I5ZQ8 4 года назад
Cant wait for a built LS9 and ome of these on max effort.
@BBossman1
@BBossman1 4 года назад
Yeah, well... I bet he drank ice coffee that morning, so...
@z0sicktanner619
@z0sicktanner619 4 года назад
Nice test, Thanks for posting. great info
@rohanberry6015
@rohanberry6015 4 года назад
Absolutely Perfect data comp! Hats off too all you guy's!!! 🤙 content.
@Rhett.Castillo
@Rhett.Castillo 4 года назад
So I have a question, can this Kong LSA 2650 benefit from porting?
@DSRE535
@DSRE535 4 года назад
from what i could see it obviously has a CNC port match and probably comes pretty well sorted out from Kong already but as with all race parts if some is good more is better lol
@deon9513
@deon9513 3 года назад
Cadillac CTS-V vs ANYBODY!
@TheAvengedJoker
@TheAvengedJoker 4 года назад
HELL. YEAH. BROTHER. DO IT FOR DALE!
@myzislow
@myzislow 4 года назад
Liked before I even watched
@chopn_v3345
@chopn_v3345 4 года назад
Great video Fran!
@Does_it_come_in_black
@Does_it_come_in_black 4 года назад
So what you’re saying it’s a bad bitch
@davidray4128
@davidray4128 4 года назад
King Kong.
@isaacpargas5158
@isaacpargas5158 4 года назад
Would’ve loved to seen it tested with the DDP intake
@35057
@35057 4 года назад
Gotta love Fran tho, no bs this is what it is, tell it like it is and if you don’t like it then go somewhere else.. 😎seems to be a typical pro tuner trait tho. Lol 😎 but I’d pick him and RPM Over most to work on my car tho. Sounds like that 2650 just helps produce more dense of an air charge all around.
@elevatedperformance
@elevatedperformance 4 года назад
What laptop does Fran use to tune these cars? I had to get a old pc computer but it’s so slow lol trying to upgrade
@musclepits
@musclepits 4 года назад
Best NEW PRODUCT video to date. You can't dispute the facts. I'm basically sold. Just have to wait on a big check to buy it.
@DevNoyes11
@DevNoyes11 2 года назад
I don't think it was mentioned in the video, but is this all on E85? Not pump 93 I'm assuming?
@adambrooks2297
@adambrooks2297 4 года назад
I saw another company's 2650 on a LS2 on a GTO and it was pushing over 700hp to the tires,the shop that did it said it's a must to upgrade the fueling to the motor at those numbers,none the less these 2650s are no joke! The LS2 only had a blower cam in it,and that mf screamed!
@armandopatane5343
@armandopatane5343 4 года назад
I see ur facts/ looks like kong isn’t bad/// I have 9.5 mustang all day/ but looking at ur Kong deal / I might have to invest
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 4 года назад
Time to up the ante with titanium exhaust, carbon fiber bodywork (painted to look unchanged), and performance brakes.
@ramairetransam
@ramairetransam 4 года назад
thank god you stopped with the previously shit . That got old . Keep up the great work and videos .
@jpprind
@jpprind 4 года назад
For real! One bad bitch!!
@michaeln.7083
@michaeln.7083 4 года назад
Yep bigger blower, bigger pulley= more efficiency and lower IAT's... less stress on the blower as well= power!! Great video
@ormondscott191
@ormondscott191 4 года назад
Imagine how much colder it would be if the car made 900 instead of 1010. So ur making more power and the car staying colder. Cant complain about that
@transam2002ws6
@transam2002ws6 4 года назад
The real question is. Will Fran swap out his LS9 supercharger for a Kong 2650. When he puts his ZR1 back together?
@hidog420
@hidog420 4 года назад
The Boss laying down the FACTS for the internet and probably just sold a bunch! Awesome, super awesome video and Kong congrats.
@outlawperformancegarage5211
@outlawperformancegarage5211 2 года назад
Amazing amazing video. I love the contact keep it up guys. I have purchased the LSA 2650 kongs supercharger with my new engine a 427 LSX LME Built Motor. I’m starting off with a 3.0 upper pulley and a 9.45 lower pulley. Trying to get in the 1050 or 1100 hp range at 20 psi. Does anybody know what lower pulley Greg was running on this Cadillac? And does anyone have any ideas what kind of boost I would be pushing with my combination a 3.0 upper in a 9.45 lower?
@TheAkstewie
@TheAkstewie Год назад
I’m gunna run my 7.88 lower and a 2.75” on a 408 I’ll let ya know how it goes
@Jasonkartracing
@Jasonkartracing 2 года назад
I didn’t think a stock converter and trans in that black CTS-V could handle that much power on top of racing at the track
@carlosmendiola8874
@carlosmendiola8874 4 года назад
What are you all using for fuel.... I know it says RPM fuel system but what does in consist of
@adamfrbs9259
@adamfrbs9259 4 года назад
Argh just window shopping with my regular old '14 SS 2SS Camaro NA engine. Arghhhhhh
@nataliedeyton6829
@nataliedeyton6829 4 года назад
Hey @23.30 was that josh driving Top Cat behind him? Yeah I’m a Mopar guy 😉
@eternalempath9817
@eternalempath9817 2 года назад
Where y’all located?
@mauryamckendrick5446
@mauryamckendrick5446 4 года назад
The Dyno pull in the intro of this video was nuts!!!! How hard it compressed the suspension and those tinny tires!! Looked like the rear end was about to jump out of the car too when he let off, it was that compressed!! Fricken rad man!!!!
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 4 года назад
Great job on the data presentation. That's how you do it. The 2650 blowers are definitely efficient. C7 Z06's are loving them as is from Magnusson. With good porting on top of that - wow
@bobgreene5460
@bobgreene5460 4 года назад
Would have been cool to see, the 2650 max port job blower sameday..Nice video, lots of work by all
@dannyr3346
@dannyr3346 4 года назад
Literally just watched this to see how the 90mm tb fit with the new blower. Im predicting a lot of sleeping on the couch in my future!!
@LeslieAnneCookSustaita
@LeslieAnneCookSustaita 4 года назад
He's got big shoes to fill. Record is 6.23... I think. He's not even close.
@thegonz7833
@thegonz7833 4 года назад
Way cool vid............we will be in need of a KP fix before much longer.🙋‍♀️
@davearmstrong5226
@davearmstrong5226 4 года назад
I'm a ford Guy.... Great Video Love this channel. You guys Rock
@thelucky0239
@thelucky0239 4 года назад
more mas flow and less heat due to friction.. this is an easy science. more power. nice work guys! great vid!
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