People distort preaching with being a pastor. They do it on purpose. But we're all called to preach, share the gospel, present the gospel. There's a big difference between that and being a pastor. It's a deliberate distortion.
Explain this? Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
@@EmeraldDove1743 The only mention of Phobe is as a servant/decon(depending what transition you read but its basically the same thing) of the church in Roman 16:1 never in the Bible will it say she led in assembly. Decons are mentioned in Act 6:1-7 as people who help in business not related to ministry. Like serving tables to widows.
This is why it was dangerous for Bishop Wooden to say it was ok for women in his church to preach before men cause they were married. This is a thin line, its the little leaven that leavens the whole lump. This is it right here
@kathleenking47 It's a dangerous line cause even if I the Pastor or Bishop don't see a problem, and I give you my wife permission to teach or preach where men are present in our today church today, it goes directly against what Paul said
Many COGIC pastors/bishops add these clauses to affirm women pastors/preachers, and they're wrong to do so. These are man made rules that completely go against the word.
We are in a fallen world. Right is wrong, and wrong is right. God help us to have discernment. God help your children who are blindly being lead astray to see and turn away. Amen ❤
The word is the word no one can go beyond what is written! You are 100% correct we can share it, explain it but we CAN NOT hold the position of PASTOR-POINT BLANK! They get on my nerves with this it is CLEAR AS GLASS what GOD MEANS!
@@Ha-Thinkfirst23 Help me with this please ma’am. Why are certain You-tubers (women) claiming to be pastors. They start out with a channel, they gain a following, and then they offer for people to become members only. The members only I guess is their church that they pastor. They thank people for paying tithe to them. What kind of spirit is this. Are these women deceived or are they just false? Thank you.
The Samaritan woman ran and told people in her town about Jesus. Just like Mary ran to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen. There was no preaching involved. 🤣 They act like these women were in front of a large group of people on a pulpit somewhere. 🤦🏽♀️Anything to made the Bible say what you want it to say. SMH
Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
@@EmeraldDove1743 Proof, Pentecostalism and Progressivism are based on sloppy hermeneutics. If God speaks to or through a woman one time, or if she speak wisely, that doesn’t mean she occupies the office of prophet. You’ve stretched words to the point of meaninglessness. Deborah was a judge, not a prophet. And that was during a time of apostasy. She only did so because no man would step up. She gave them every chance to assume the office. Huldah was prophetess in a time of apostasy, too. Taking that as normative, or even as applicable in the church, is bad hermeneutics. The bit about Phoebe leading assemblies is pure fiction. Talking to the women at the laundromat wasn’t the same as leading assemblies. Diakonon literally means servant. So, you have to choose between the action of serving and contradicting 1 Timothy 3. If your god contradicts Himself, He isn’t God, and you worship an idol. If God does not contradict Himself, then you must interpret the word as meaning Phoebe was a servant. Mentors: So what? Mary Magdalene and Joanna taught Jesus? Are you a false convert, or just a mistaught birdbrain, Dove? This is why 1 Timothy 2:11-14.
@EmeraldDove1743 you've named some very prominent women that were used in very different and good ways by God! However, none of them were pastors/elders. A biblical prophet/prophetess is simply someone who repeats a message they are given for a group of people or person by God. They don't have a continuous word for the most part when you see them in scripture as opposed to a pastor. All of the women you named are also not all a prophetess. Esther for example was a queen who was chosen for a specific moment in history to save her people, but she still had to submit to the will of the king. The word used in Romans to describe Phoebe (diakonos) is where we get our word deacon, but it simply means servant. And all she did was deliver Paul's letter for him b/c he was locked up. No scripture says she led assemblies. Regarding the "mentors", Timothy's dad was not a believer, so of course his believing mom and grandmother would teach him about Jesus. That's just good parenting. They too were not in front of a congregation. Priscilla did not teach Apollos by herself. She was a tag team with her husband Aquilla, and they pulled him aside afterwards and sat down over a cup of coffee and had a convo. No one is EVER disputing women cannot be used by God, b/c that is a false narrative. However, they do not have the biblical clearance to be pastors/elders/shepherds over a congregation. When Paul says, "for it was the woman that was deceived" he's letting us know this isn't a battle of the sexes, rather a creation, from the beginning issue. Also when the disciples were commissioned to go out and preach and they chose Mattias as a replacement in Acts 1, they were in the presence of men and women. A woman was not even considered. Biblically they are not called to SHEPHERD a flock, but can absolutely share the truth of the gospel as we all should.
You don’t have to look at the world to know we are living in the end times, just observe the proliferation of false prophets, preachers, teachers, self proclaimed apostles, evangelist, etc.
They all did!Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
@@EmeraldDove1743But they were not pastors. They were sent to do wonderful things and they played their role that God had for them but they were not Pastors
Pastor Corey I almost got cussed out one time cause I respectfully told her the Mary needed a Savior as well.She didn't like that one bit. Sweet lady though but she was visibly upset. Pray for Mrs Judy to get saved. Thank you brother for your videos ❤❤❤
I never understood the argument that Paul's teaching concerning the role of women in Corinthians was only directed to the church at Corinth. If that was so, why do we need to believe the rest of the book?
That's been my argument as well. Many of the very same people who believe in women being able to preach and attempt to explain away women being silent in 1 Cor, say it was for that culture and time but will still lean on the same book for tongues.
This happens when you don't have full revelation of the word and take it literally, missing the hidden meaning When the Bible says to hate your mother and father, do you hate them. What criteria do we use to take a scripture literally and not. There is a mystery behind what Paul said in Tim and Corinthians about woman and most on here are missing it by a mile.
Explain this Corey? Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
@@EmeraldDove1743No female was an elder or a pastor. Period. You’re trying to excuse your own behavior and it simply isn’t going to happen. Pray earnestly for clarity from God and get out of your own way.
Praise GOD Corey I am SO tired of FALSE teachers taking Scriptures out of Context, Matthew's 4/17 said JESUS began to PREACH REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND, women are not preachers they do other GREAT things in the BODY OF CHRIST, let's please 2timothy 2/15 and try to Stay in your Lane, the HOLY SPIRIT gives you. Love you always D and C
Explain this ? Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
Corey please listen to Angela and do a video on third Adam. Women are not being ministered to by lame and fake money hungry preachers. We men know we are accountable but male preachers have failed Godly men by not doing there job in preaching our roles
The most mis-used words currently are "God is love". I didn't say it's false, I said mis-used. God is love but he also wishes that none should perish(2Peter 3:9).
Simping doesn't stop because someone is a preacher. It's pandering to the world and embracing a spirit of feminism. When we go against God's order, we are simply out of order.
How is literally just talking considered being a pastor???? Does anyone know what a pastor does? It's not just speaking. They act like we think women can't talk. So bizarre.
Amos was the first prophet to proclaim the coming salvation to the gentiles. Somewhat irrelevant but fun fact at the same time. God Bless and Maranatha!
The man who said “after you read the verse about Paul saying women be quiet in church, run over to the old testament and look at Debora and Esther etc”. Ok. But does that negate what Paul said? No. Because women being in leadership was a sign of Gods judgment! And those women were not the heads of churches etc. Thise women have nothing to do with what Paul is instructing!
Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
To say a woman today can't be an elder in a small church makes no sense, except to Paul and his followers, who have to discount what God did with Deborah, so they can accept a false teaching. How ironic that if Paul lived at her time and his case was sent to Deborah to be judged, he would have to go...and be judged by a woman. Else executed. But the person who acts insolently by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that person shall die; so you shall eliminate the evil from Israel. -excerpt Deuteronomy 17
@chilichill7252, Men & women are equal in value to God, yes. However, that has nothing to do with the differing roles and responsibilities for men and women. There is a clear distinction between men and women that is explicitly stated and understood throughout Scripture. In church, when it comes to teaching and exercising authority of a man, women are expressly forbidden! No qualifications for a "female pastor/elder" are given in Scripture because it is not permitted for a female to be a pastor/elder. The qualifications stated are for men.
@@ThomasJones77 also there is no disqualification that women can not and are forbidden do so whoever wants to praise the lord shouldn’t be silenced wasn’t lady Mary Madeline not an apostle of the lord
@@chilichill7252 You sentence is a bit garbled, but if I understood you then you are very much incorrect. Scripture explicitly forbids a woman from teaching and from exercising authority over a man in church. Period. The reason Scripture gives is rooted in creation. There are *ZERO* qualifications for a "female pastor." The qualifications given are explicitly for men. Women are to be quiet and submissive when it comes to leadership roles in the church. (1 Timothy, Titus, 1 Corinthians, etc). There's no such thing as a "female Apostle" that is of Christ. There is no place in Scripture that supports that. Absolutely no where.
People tend to confuse testifying with preaching. Women were never called to preach. A woman can only testify and prophecy, praise and worship in the church.
Why is it that when people quote certain scriptures in the Bible to say women can't preach, teach or hold office in the body of Christ, especially the one about let them silent. It's my understanding that was during a certain dispensation were there were women prostitutes, worshipping Diana, etc. When other passages are mentioned to support women we want to say oh that's wrong. We need to check ourselves before we wreck ourselves, folks tend to take scriptures twist them for whatever reason. Look at how in this century there are and have been women that are definitely preaching, teaching under the power of the Holy Ghost Himself. Now, I may understand about certain offices, but if we any discernment at all, we can't deny the anointing and calling some women walk in. And my final sentiments and comments are don't for these in the Bible for example Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, The Samaritan Women, Phillips Daughters, Phoebe, Priscilla, and Lois and Eunice. I'm sure folks will even try to discredit, or something. God help us all❤❤
Amen! We have to follow the truth of God's Word. He's a God of order. It would make no sense if i submit to my husband in the house but my husband submits under a female pastor at church.
Guys. This debate is already settled in scripture. In these last days we have 2 types of Christians. The few that tries to adhere to the teachings of the Scripture and the majority who do not. One is wrong, and one is right. You can not argue with someone who thinks God is telling them to go against scripture. As long as they know what the scripture says and willfully ignore, you are speaking to a rock. Go speak to people who are not a part of the faith yet
Brother it would better if you use your time lifting up Jesus and yielding your body to the Holy Ghost to glorify the Most High God our Father? The Holy Ghost it the teacher not man!!!
Did Christ not instruct His disciples to TEACH and INSTRUCT fellow believers? God chooses and equips men to faithfully and fearfully preach and teach His Word.
Wow I didn't expect that from cliff at all..... cliff added to the scriptures I respect this man deep for his work of evangelism but he is dead wrong here
You might be measuring from the wrong cup. He sounds like he sounds, and I'm sure you might sound like you have a little bit of this AND that in your tank.
Act 2:17 “’In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, Deborah called as prophet, and the only one described as performing a judicial function, meaning that she was a shepherd of God people. Deborah also lead men.
What I have been brought to understand in this last year is how one understands Genesis chapters 1-3 determines/shapes how one understands and interprets the entire Scripture, especially Genesis 1:27-28. What is the "it" that was to be subdued (NKJV)? Was it only the male that was to subdue it alone? One area where this specific subdue is found is Micah 7:19. A few others include Num 32:22, 29; Josh 18:1, 2 Sam 8:11. If the woman was to subdue as well, how? Were the man and woman to subdue together?
I agree with you on this. Why do you not ever hear a woman preach on this scripture? And why are they still forcing the issue? If these women who say they believe in God, why not do what God says to do, search the scriptures for in them you might find life. It's like trying to put a pair of shoes on that doesn't fit. Women come back to the Bible.
Explain this? Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
People want to be the latest and the greatest instead of just telling the TRUTH...Im going to exegete my own reference... God and Jesus want us to tell the Gospel TRUTH...
Thank you brother; that’s Bible truth. Women cannot be preachers. They cannot be the head of a man. Truth is for those who have ears to hear. Good teaching. Praise God
You're not going to hell because you preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God uses whom He chooses to do His bidding. "Your sons and daughters shall prophesy,...And also upon My menservants and My Maidservants I will pour out my Spirit in those days." Joel 2:28,29. I refuse to get involved in this argument. I do know that if The Holy Spirit directs you to speak out and you quench the Holy Spirit you better be ready to answer to God. I've said my peace and I'm not going to respond to subsequent replies
Romans 16:1-2 I do need help with these verses brother and how it fits within the ideas that women don't hold titles, not pastors, but I'm still seeing title and regard. I'm almost 100 percent with you but I still think that I need a deeper study. I am working on it though brother. Great videos brother. Keep pushing.
Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really. I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God. In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting. Read time: 12 minutes free
Mary Magdalene was ORDERED by Jesus to preach of His resurrection to men. The resurrection of Jesus is a key part of the gospel. But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied. -excerpt 1 Corinthians 15 When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and yet she did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Thinking that He was the gardener, she said to Him, “Sir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you put Him, and I will take Him away.” Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!”. Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene came and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and that He had said these things to her. -excerpt John 20
Look, they word it as people “don’t want women in the ministry “. That’s not true. They’re already lying to make themselves look more knowledge about scripture, as well as more inclusive etc. women should not be in positions of leadership in the church! Pastors deacons elders etc. that’s all were saying because that is exactly what scripture says. Man was made first. Woman sinned first and caused her husband to sin. Women can not be head of their husbands at home, why would we think that would be allowed in the church? So a woman pastor, is she also the head of her husband at home? Probably not. Why does she think one is permissible but the other isn’t?
A woman could only be given the authority by God to execute a man for his sin, if women are spiritually equal to men. A Judge could judge homicide cases according to Deuteronomy. Therefore Deborah, as a Judge, could execute a man for his sin. A Judge's verdict could not be altered or appealed. A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
Mary Magdalene simply told other believers that Jesus had risen, that's not preaching but merely reporting to her Fellow believers that Jesus saying He would rise, happened. Besides this, telling this to the other converts is not being a Preacher like Ephesians 4:11. Also the woman at the well simply said could this be the Messiah, there's no preaching the gospel there at all.
Mary Magdalene was ORDERED by Jesus to preach of His resurrection to men. The resurrection of Jesus is a key part of the gospel. But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied. -excerpt 1 Corinthians 15 When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and yet she did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Thinking that He was the gardener, she said to Him, “Sir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you put Him, and I will take Him away.” Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!”. Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene came and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and that He had said these things to her. -excerpt John 20
Women were so oppressed prior to Christianity that they were treated poorly at times and disregarded. So after the resurrection of Jesus, Jesus took the opportunity to appear to Mary first. It was this appearance to Mary to let women know that we're all the same and that Jesus can reveal himself to a woman as well. This, however, wasn't a point to affirm that women can pastor a church. I really hate hearing this argument because it's wrong. I hear it all the time, and I just shake my head. It's a huge difference.
Women were so oppressed that they were queens in other nations and had a goddess in Ephesus and almost all of Asia. “And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,” Acts 8:27 KJV “And when the queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the LORD, she came to prove him with hard questions.” 1 Kings 10:1 KJV “Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands: so that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth. And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.” Acts 19:26-28 KJV “But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?” Jeremiah 44:17-19 KJV “The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.” Jeremiah 7:18 KJV
This why I don't argue the word anymore, there's so much being added as if another road has been added to a street.the way-but this road leads off a cliff.
The pastor functions in roles of authority and is a picture of Christ. Paul said he does not allow a woman to teach or usurp authority over the man but to be in silence. Therefore when we assemble women aren't allowed to function in any of these roles once men are present. Funny how the actual roles for women are sidelined.
The scriptures doesn’t give women the authority to preach, study the book of Titus the entire book teaches the qualifications, and one of those qualifications is to have one WIFE that alone eliminates a woman preacher or to whole office over the man in the church
So what are the qualifications for the title/position of 'father'? Paul believed he was a father, and that there were others. He regarded the title/position as valid and also special. For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers... -excerpt 1 Corinthians 4 KJV -words of Paul And do not call anyone on earth your father; for only One is your Father, He who is in heaven. -excerpt Matthew 23 -words of Jesus Paul never states the qualifications for being a 'father'. Even though this title/position is rare and special according to Paul. Be careful of the teachings of Paul.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 thank you for this. They are too much and so cringe every time people use this to put a woman in an ordained position in headship in Gods church.
It appears to me that we're conflating words and terms. In Ephesians 4:11, Paul makes a distinction among several positions including prophets vs pastors and teachers. Can't someone prophesy(be a prophetess and not be a pastor). Can't someone teach(impart information) and not be a pastor(leader of a flock). Moreover, according to 1 Corinthians 12:10, isn't prophecy a separate gift outside of pastoring? According to 1 Corinthians 11:5, Paul doesn't have a problem with women prophesying. Isn't prophesying different than pastoring . Also, if a deacon was the same as a pastor, why did Paul specifically outline the qualifications of a deavon in 1Timothy 3:8-13. Finally, if someone carries a message, could that be considered pastoring?
(not this channel) My quick answer is here: ...because the hair instead of a covering hath been given to her... In your own selves judge ye; is it seemly for a woman uncovered to pray to God? doth not even nature itself teach you, that if a man indeed have long hair, a dishonour it is to him? and a woman, if she have long hair, a glory it is to her, because the hair instead of a covering hath been given to her;... -Young's Literal Translation (YLT) Does even nature itself not teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her as a covering. -NASB A woman's long hair is the 'covering'. If a fabric covering is actually required, then all references to hair are totally irrelevant to the subject. It only can make sense if the long hair of a woman is the 'covering'. She should be covered, with her long hair. To have short hair, like a man, means that she is basically bald. Therefore uncovered.
She wasn’t the first woman to be a preacher, but I would say she was the first witness of a risen savior hallelujah. Praise God he lives my Jesus lives amen.
This is such a dangerous and polarizing subject, and I don’t know why! The Bible says women are not to preach or pastor. “They have eyes and they do not see they have ears and they do not hear!”
I know why it's polarizing. Feminism, equality, and the fact women have been mistreated for centuries. So when a man tells us we can't do something, all of those feelings come up again and we try to justify our position. But we can honor and recognize women without changing the scriptures.
Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really. I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God. In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation A woman could only be given the authority by God to execute a man for his sin, if women are spiritually equal to men. A Judge could judge homicide cases according to Deuteronomy. Therefore Deborah, as a Judge, could execute a man for his sin. A Judge's verdict could not be altered or appealed. A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
Explain this ? Prophetesses: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Abigail, and Esther Church leaders: Phoebe, who was a church deacon and led in assemblies Mentors: Lois and Eunice, who taught Timothy, and Deborah and Huldah, who mentored in the Old Testament Other women who taught: Priscilla, who taught Apollos, and Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary, mother of James, who taught of Jesus .
Exactly many females that say they are called to preach it always starts with them leaving and breaking up congregations for females to follow, then they come out with songs, books, some form of talent....ppl are looking to pimp out Jesus by twisting and defaming His Word...
There is one God and one mediator between God and men...it isn't Mary, The Samaritan woman, it isn't the Pope, it isn't any tele-evangelist....the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5).
A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting. Men and women were created in the image of God, as written in Genesis 1 before the Fall, and Genesis 5 after the Fall. Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the livestock and over all the earth, and over every crawling thing that crawls on the earth.” So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. -excerpt Genesis 1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. On the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them “mankind” on the day when they were created. -excerpt Genesis 5
Paul commended Timothy's mother and grandmother for how well they trained Timothy up in the knowledge of the Scriptures. That's where women get to teach. It's an admiral and vital teaching role. Why is a mother teaching her children so overlooked and under vaued?
2 Timothy 3:15 is likely what's being referenced here, but that passage doesn't actually say who taught Timothy, could it have been his mother and grandmother? Possibly: they are the ones referenced in 1:5.
Many women are showing their disobedience because looking at society children were not trained and young women were not raised properly, that in itself should be an indication if that wasn't done well why do women want to run the church wen the home is out of order .... someone once sd a clear indication of what society looks like is what was taught or not taught in ones home
It's interesting how scriptures like 1 Corinthians 13 are not culturally based, and Proverbs 31 and Romans 5:12 are not gender-specific. Why are we so obsessed with a scripture and command that is very clear? It seems that unless it offends a woman, we must obtain a PhD from Oxford to demonstrate that the Bible didn't mean it that way.
Many pastors are trying to gain new theological studies so they can twist words not actually to preach, many want to modernize to keep numbers yet joke is there are less ppl being saved and staying saved.... God Almighty is not a man therefore what He says is wat He says whether it offends or not....many women want to be the boss and that's a feminist movement and furthermore it's a proven fact that majority of women that say they are to preach etc don't have a Christian household, husband's are not in church or they have none, children are of the world etc so what ppl should question if this is the call for women then y are these the outcomes
I agree with a lot of what you say here and I just want to raise some points to clarify and where I disagree. As you pointed out, women were certainly not the first to preach the Gospel. The disciples were (Mt 10:5ff). However, the Scriptures are clear that women were the first to carry the Good News of the resurrected Christ. (Mt 28: 1-8; Mk 16:1-8; Luke 24:1-10; Jn 20: 11-18) All four Gospels give an account. Funny that. Might have something to do with the fact that culturally a women's testimony meant little, and that they would require 2-3 witnesses. So God gave them four. One of the prominent controversies of Jesus' ministry was the length he went to in displaying a shift in paradigm for women in His kingdom. Now concerning the woman at the well (again I agree, she certainly wasn't the first to preach the gospel). Yes, men did tell her that they 'now' believe after hearing for themselves, but v39 still states that men believed 'because' of the woman's testimony. There may be some overlapping or differences in the causes of their belief. But v39 still stands. Shall we rob the sower of due honor because she's a woman? Moving on. 1Tim chapt 2. The subject of women teaching and having authority "over" a man and qualifications to be overseer are two totally separate topics. I agree 100% that you cannot argue against the text that only men are to hold office as Elder/Deacon or Pastor. However, verse 12 shows that a woman's teaching is juxtaposed with her having authority "over" a man. The key word is "over". That is, a woman's teaching does not usurp, or over-rule men's teaching. Why? because Eve was deceived, not Adam. If the men in the church say she is wrong, she is wrong, they over-ride her every time. It's not a prohibition, it's a boundary. Now in 1Cor 14:34,35 the text says that women are to remain silent in the churches. However, not only doesn't it sound like Paul, but it contradicts his statement at chapter 11:5 where woman can pray and prophecy with conditions (head-covering) I believe (as do others) Paul is quoting a Corinthian idiom (as he does elsewhere. 1Cor 10:23) pushed by the Judaisers, and that Verse 36 is a rebuttal. The KJV, RSV, WEB, ASV and the HNV (Hebrew Names version) start v36 with the word "What"? was it from you only....etc which turns the verse into a rebuttal, which is the only translation that makes contextual and grammatical sense, allowing the context to flow. That's why most theologians (using the other versions), believe these verses don't belong there and are a scribal error. I believe they do belong there, just change the first word, which the Greek makes applicable (allows for), and it all makes sense. It's ironic that the issue of women teaching is raised in a letter to Timothy who is overseeing a church where Apollos was instructed (taught/teach) more accurately (his theology was fine-tuned), by Priscilla and Aquila (Acts 18:26). I don't think it's coincidence that Priscilla's name is intentionally mentioned first. It was culturally inappropriate to put the wife's/woman's name before the man without a specific reson. It makes sense that It was placed there by Luke, deliberately, to emphasis she was the dominant figure. We must not play down her role, simply because it doesn't suit previous interpretations regarding women teaching, which is easily rebutted. Not sure who those people are that you used to raise your counter-argument. But to have sat through hours of that would have been nauseating to say he least. Not sure I could have done it. Cliffe (Knechtle) on the other hand, is usually good to watch But that episode was surprisingly exegetically appalling. Somewhere in there you quote Gen 3:16 'the man shall rule "over" you' and state He (God) didn't change that. I beg to differ. Throughout the Gospels Jesus sets the stage for a complete shift in paradigm for women, in the way He treated them and presented them to the Old Testament religious culture' Pointing to a return to the ideal in the garden of Eden. A significant message of the Gospel is that we are ALL "sons" of God. No male and female, "all" are Christs and all heirs according to his promise (Gal 3:26-4:7) It is also undeniable that there are women out there who carry the gift of teaching by the Holy Spirit, for the edification of the Church. Don't misunderstand me, I'm fully aware that there are women out there who do, that aren't. In saying that there are just as many men as well, as your videos pointed out. I know this is long. But it was bugging me. Blessings to you and yours.
I have never heard anyone quote the scriptures like this before! Woow! That was amazing and well taught! ❤ I have heard very similar things as you stated ,but you gave proof from the scriptures on all ends.
Mary was the first to preach the gospel and where would we be now if she hadnt and the disciples went back to fishing? she said He is risen! Jesus is alive!
Galatians 3:8 claims that the gospel was preached to Abraham. The gospel is yes that Jesus was crucified and resurrected. And also that the goal of this is so that all nations would be united to Christ one day through the universal sacrifice of Jesus Christ - eons beyond the sacrifice of goats and bulls. And no, this is not a pro- everyone will be saved comment lol, just saying the entire world has had a sacrifice provided by God Himself if we believe. So the gospel was not necessarily first preached by anyone in the NT scriptures. The gospel has always been God’s message of hope to humanity since Genesis 3. Thank you for your channel Corey and all you do, creating a space for us all to keep one another encouraged.
