The First (Staggering) Siege of Vienna 1529 

Still best channel of its kind. Thanks m8

@N Fels what church might that be kind sir so that my Nigerian princes may join you on your quest for justice

@@vardekpetrovic9716 *we* the people, will always remember, even if it's just a few of us..

The friend who made this video drew a picture of Sultan Suleiman by looking at his own ass. bro, do it like a man, have respect for your job, take some care. let's say well done

@@MegaDuckmonster the turks were there twice. They say it in the intro

They must have been really old by then.

The second also included a large coalition relief force composed of the HRE states and the Commonwealth. Whereas the first one was mainly just the Habsburgs and the Ottomans.

No, in this one there were Spanish troops involved as well

@@Almirante1741 sent from Habsburg-controlled Spain ;)

@@SeverusFelix hahaha, good one

Extra historyyyyyyy 🤘

Damn that's poetic

@@pingusingame I am certainly not the first one to point the irony of it out. The historical note was made by men much wiser than I.

A better way how to say it is, that muslims, in this case, the Ottomans, attacked anybody on sight, if the enemy was not too strong. In that case, they paid for peace just as the Byzantines before them.

I'm sure neither thought they would die fighting side by side with the other centuries later

I was wondering if that meant something.

Is it something like “old man! “ Vienna slang of alte mann?

@@ronhuppert2410 Yes. Alter / old one, verbatim. Often used as a cry of anger or astonishment.

fresse cringer spast

There are a couple of this style of history focussed chanells in RU-vid. Invicta is Great, Kings and Generals is good too, but SandRhoman will always be my favourite. SandRhoman's balance of history, storytelling, and analysis is damn near perfect!

Absolutely spot on.

WINTER IS COMING

ahhh! the ultimate adversary: logistics.

it has more to do with the lack of heavy canons.Without them there was no way to damage the fortification. they instead had to relly on minesr to breach the wall which is deplorable to say the least

@@abdelidrissi7241 And those big cannons couldn't be transported all the way to Austria, because of the hilly, muddy Balkans.

​@@BrahmdaghRome would have built rock roads and wooden causeways

Never known stockholm was under siege. Video about it would be great! Until then: any more info about it?

@@mariushunger8755 Well, at that time Stockholm was mostly located on one island, so it was hard to cut it off for the peasant army, and mercenaries and ships were also very expensive. Hardship after hardship basically. The year prior, Stockholm had been blockaded and taken by the Danish, who controlled Sweden at the time.

@@deteon1418 interesting! Hope he covers it one day

i want one too: Siege of Brno (1645): Swedish Army of 28 000 men against 500 soldiers and 1000 peasants, Moravians(Czechs) lost 250 men and Swedes lost 8000, ending in victory for small garrison

If the Habsburger wouldnt hide in Linz with more than 200 k soldiers and fought against the Sultan Suleiman they would loose for 100 percent. Suleiman attacked Vienna only to intimidate the Habsburger and lock them to a open field battle. After the ottomans couldnt find the hiding soldiers the Sultan wrote a message to Sharlken where he said come to Vienna to fight me like a man and don't hide but still the Habsburger didnt answer and kept hiding. If they dared to face him probably whole Europe would belong to the ottomans💀💀. That was just unlucky for the ottoman empire

What does Bratislava means in slavic?

@@urosmarjanovic663 The city's modern name is credited to Pavol Jozef Šafárik's misinterpretation of Braslav as Bratislav in his analysis of medieval sources, which led him to invent the term Břetislaw, which later became Bratislav.

@@urosmarjanovic663 Brat in some, if not all, Slavic languages means brother, and the ending - slav is often used in many names, like Branislav, Radoslav, Miroslav (braniti- to defend; rad - labor, work; mir - peace). The word Slava could mean glory or celebration

Sandrhoman gets peerreviewed in the comments, thats how high quality they are

I would not disagree with anything mentioned here, however there is a certain value in using modern names when referring to towns and cities as well as geographical features since they can serve as reference points for people who aren't familiar with the older names. It's a matter of which best serves the educational purposes of the material.

thanks, and yeah that was a stupid mistake :/ actually one that we have made before I guess. But while reviewing and revising these videos our focus is usually on other things (positions of cities / rivers for maps and error / layers for artwork). These is a lot that needs looking at, so sometimes we just forget to look for the simple errors.

@@SandRhomanHistory the map was phenomenal. Big time cheers! Happy to see independent creators close in on stumbling pc beasts like Kings and Generals. You are criminally undersubscribed! And just got yourself a new subscriber.)

@@SandRhomanHistory more fq,in

I was just thinking that. Must have been a nightmare clean up job.

Free wine cellars!

Just filled in probs....would be easier to do at the time than turning it into anything else. Also somewhere to put the bodies !. Good question though.

Probably just collapsed, seems easier than refilling them

The Maltese filled them with huge rocks to seal off the mine sites of the Ottomans. It was right before one of the Vienna sieges.

Yes. Unironically, only great leaders can make quality copium.

Coming to you again when russia loses in Ukraine and Putin says the exact same shit on live TV. We won! Trust me, don't ask questions or you'll be executed.

@@Brslld True, no one can think you're a bad leader if all the ones who do are in prison.

typical musIim move

Truly staggering

Yeah Ferdinand was only made Archduke of Austria on behalf of Charles in his position as German-Roman Emperor, he was only made King of Hungary on behalf of Charles in his position as head of the Habsburg family, and his forces were only funded on behalf of Charles in his position as King of Spain and its European and overseas possessions

@@TheLocalLt yeah exactly, Charles even was the senior archiduke of Austria, not Ferdinand, because as you say Charles was the head of the house of Habsburg

Im starting to realice why most of the world dont take us in consideration when it comes to history, besides "killing a lot of natives"

That’s very true

It usually happens that in many foreign videos specially in english there underestimated or ignored very important historical facts that they would have to know;so they become simple e inexactly videos to satisfy a certain type of public that does not like the very important history of spain due to ancestral stereotipes and rivaltries or people ;who do not care for what is safe and the videos that suit them exaggerate them have it very verified and the videos that suit them exagerated them i have seen many videos of these and most do.

bc non needed

Very true

hey thanks so much for the nice comment!

that's just the stock artwork we have access to. there's pretty much only one artist that we can use for that. Personally, I don't think that they look bad. And in no way shape or form was it intended to look worse than any of the other characters.

Yoooo i knew i recognize it somehow. Only Abu is missing.

they would have raised the city to the ground and then leave. that was the actual goal. Vienna is too far away from the border. they could not hold that city.

@@hawk-eye654 think about throwing so much of your men and materials just to raze a city. Surely the small wars in the Balkans were a better template to follow. Maybe the sultan got some good hashish in the earlier winter and smoked with the entire court.

@@Contractor48 okay my english is not perfect but let me explain. War is about economy and politics. When you destroy a city especially a f...ing capital. you severy damage your enemy's reputation and economy. People start doubting your ability to rule them and give them safety. Ferdinand was trying to show Hungarian nobles he is the legitimate king and he has the power to force it and the Ottomans could do nothing about it. so the Ottomans could not just sit and wait. they had to show force. they had to punish Ferdinand. How do you do that? Ferdinand is not stupid he is not gonna engage the Ottoman army. so Ottoman had to damage his reputation and economy. They had to show everyone (enemy and friends) that they are not to be fuck with. you can accomplish both of them by invading your enemy's land burning their city to ground (which means their economy ,security and their image) killing their farmers and taking their people as slaves to try to force your enemy into open battle. and if not people will see their king is not gonna protect them. Hungarian noble could see this and side with the stronger side which is the ottoman Also, the sultan had spies everywhere. He and his council probably the knew horrible condition of the city defenses . They also knew division inside the HRE. They probably had thought it would be easy. And it should have been easy to take that city. Just imagine the impact of destroying the capital city of Habsburg.

Who knows. Maybe they would've eventually taken all over Europe. Maybe they would've been crushed somehow in 50 years all to way to Syria. We will never know.

​@@hawk-eye654Im glad that there still people that know what really in the history happened

Nah, just a bit early is all.

@N Fels That is a good point. Without the Leadership of the Habsburgs the Catholics would have had a very difficult time in that mess.

France would have been stronger, it was ally of Ottomans during this period.

Please make a video about it

@N Fels -age of explaration already started -I don t see how an Ottoman Vienna or an islamic+protestant Europe would have started a "science era", not like Renaissance and Humanism were already a (catholic) thing and the islamic world was on average not anymore as open minded and opened to science and innovation as in the past while most of the protestant and reformed countries were made of not so rational and innovative zealots

@N Fels most of protestants were so opened minded during the XVI-XVII century that they favourite hobby was burning witches and destroying art I didn t say that all protestants and their rulers were ignorants or zealots during that period but turmoil, zealotry and instability are not favourable to science and progress Listing some protestant scientists doesn t mean that more protestant countries would have created a scientist revolution which on the other hand was already happening and the Church and the catholic scientists were also the one contributing to it (e.g. Copernicus was one the fathers of the scientic method) Also the same Church and its orders had always been interested in financing progress and knowledge and this not only saved most of the greek and roman culture and science during the Middle ages but also made it flourish during the following centuries thanks to its well established, centralized and wealthy structure...I could list dozens or hundreds of famous scientists who thanks to the support and education provided by the catholic Church made the nowadays science and world the way it is No Church or a weaker Church would have probably slowed down the progress during the XVI-XVII century P.s. I know someone might reply with "but what about Galileo Galilei?" Well his position was rejected not because "The Bible says so" but because the tools and the scienfic findings of the time couldn t fully support the heliocentrism (something that happened only a century later); at that time Church and science could accept it as an interesting model but not as a fact due to weak evidence

Not sad for me but nice Love dat

ottomans were dumb to not colonised americas