The Fishfeed (Legendary Battles Of Westeros) House Of The Dragon History & Lore Dance Of The Dragons 

I mean so many battles have been fought there, something along those lines would not surprise me at all

Blood to the Old Gods

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@@Argos-xb8ek Lion's blood is sacrificed to the Old Gods :)

​@@TricksterPoi yes please! Lol

Agreed. The first episode already gave us a glimpse to the committed alliance of the Greybeards to Queen Rhaenyra.

Before Lord Walder Frey they played significant roles given their strategic position

They did indeed control the twins which is a significant strategic stronghold and access point

Unlike that old twart Walder Frey, his ancestors were BETTER. If they were alive and saw how he runs their house, they'll throw him to the Wall.

Hopefully they don't just show the aftermath

I'm going to be pissed if they just fast forward to the aftermath of the battle like they did with other battles this season like Burning Mill.

It should have been the Starks and Arryns with the remenants of Riverland forces to line up against the Baratheons. The Rivermen counting 11 - 12k were annihalated at the 1st battle of Tumbleton, with another 4k during the 2nd battle

The Lannisters would've continued sending in troops if not for the Greyjoys lurking in their ports and pillaging their towns and villages, House Lannister would've been destroyed if not for Casterly Rock's defense.

​@@idontspeakjapanese6289 Agreed, either way Aegon II is doomed. The Ironborn siding with the Blacks was a major factor that prevent the Lannisters to sent more armies after that.

@@TricksterPoi The moment Aemond died, the greens are pretty much doomed

Well, Daymond died and Black was almost destroyed, and the reign of the Bastard Targaryens began, which caused the magic of the dragon to disappear ​@@idontspeakjapanese6289

We'll have to wait till season 3

It's odd because it's a super important battle in the context of the war but with the lack of 'main' characters involved it does kinda make it somewhat easy for them to skip of they really wanted to. I'd hope not as it's a perfect way to introduce the north into the war.

@@WorldOfWesteros I have a feeling they'll make Lord Jason Lannister participate and die in the Fishfeed rather than die on the way to the battle. That way theres a reason to show it on screen.

I'm faily confident the Fishfeed will make it in given how visually different it will be compared to a lot of battles they have done before.

To be honest numbers were never George's strong suit. there are a fair few battles where the numbers don't add up. The Fishfeed maybe the worst though. There is a whole section on the wiki talking about how the numbers don't work well.

​@@WorldOfWesteros oh my, hadn't found that part of the wiki yet😂 but I suppose it has it's reasons, George came up with quite some stuff that doesn't add up

heres the wiki numbers losses that everyones talking about :The description of the numbers on both sides during the battle is oddly worded in the text: when the westermen host set out into the riverlands, it says that Lord Jason Lannister brought a formidable host of "a thousand armored knights, and seven times as many archers and men-at-arms" - thus, at least 8,000. Other green armies, however, are consistently described as having core "regular" armies of knights/archers/men-at-arms, but then supplemented by three times as many sellswords, freeriders, camp followers, and feudal levies: the Hightower army is described as having 1,000 knights, 1,000 archers, and 5,000 men-at-arms...but also "thousands" of sellswords and rabble, and later is described as having 20,000 men in total. Aegon II's army in the Battle at Rook's Rest is described with the same ratio: 600 knights and men-at-arms, but also "thrice as many" sellswords and levies. Thus it is possible that at the beginning of their campaign, the host from the westerlands had an additional 24,000 sellswords and freeriders, for about 30-32,000 men in all. Conversely, this might mean that the number of soldiers on the blacks' side was also four times higher, because the text glosses over sellswords and levies. Then again, the greens absconded with the old royal treasury and controlled wealthy port cities, so it's possible that the greens were able to hire far more sellswords than the blacks. Even assuming the Lannister host only consisted of 8,000 men, the description of losses at the Fishfeed don't match up well: "By nightfall two thousand men were dead, amongst them many notables, including Lord Frey, Lord Lefford..." (listing lords from both sides). It then goes on to say that two thirds of the Winter Wolves died - a force that itself consisted of 2,000 men. This would mean that about 1,300 Winter Wolves died, then barely 700 men from both sides would have died in the entire battle. While the Lannister host took some losses in the riverlands campaign by that point, it couldn't possibly have been whittled down from 8,000 to less than 700. Thus it seems that this line is in error, and that the blacks lost 2,000 men in total, while the Lannister host of around seven to eight thousand men was completely destroyed

also the 2000 only confirmed dead that doesnt add in any that fled , were wounded or who body were not found.

@@chipkolat4055 I read somewhere that George later said that the 2000 dead were from the Black side, and that the Green's losses were up to five times higher (which makes sense, given that the Westerlands army was completely annihilated)

It's pretty much impossible to send more men from the north because of the size of the north. If they waited for more north men to show up they wouldn't have showed up at all. Just getting from winterfell to the neck is the same distance as getting from the rock to harrenhal.

@@B1ackWolf I mean if north had provided the continuous flow of the man. If it required in the installments. Vale provided bulk of the men's in first host of daemon but if they had provided riverloards more mans then I think fishfed would have been less bloodier for the blacks. Also if nettels had been sent to the riverlands.

@@AdityaSingh-iz5zs How would they provide continuous flow of men? Some of the castles are so far north the distance between them and the neck is the same as the neck to the border of Dorne with the Storm lands. By the time the second group arrives to help the first group the battle would already be finished and if the victor is the enemy it means you just send thousands of men to die with no hope for backup because the nearest backup is 3 months away.

@@B1ackWolf my friend I know about the size of north. Right when cregan stark declared for rhaenyra, northmans should have started moving south. It is far away but not infinite away. Also north could have asked vale for the ships. Vale had ships in past.

@@AdityaSingh-iz5zs Bruh I don't think you understand English. To just send word to the other Nobels of the north takes a huge amount of time let alone to constantly march armies down the neck. And as for your "send ships from the vale" If it takes a huge amount of time to just send the men south how long do you think it would take to just send word to the vale to prepare ships to send them to the north so they can bring them back south? Also you're just forgetting that 90% of the north would still have to march for months to even reach the ships in the east. And this is without mentioning that your nobles need to gather the men first. Would you like me to explain to you that the story isn't set in a crusader kings game? The armies don't just pop up where you want them to.

You are spot on in your analysis of Martin's sympathy for the Blacks. But in reality, ALOT of it doesn't pass a simple logic test.

Its because Martin cant write a militarily sound story for shit.

@@markoguillermo6873I think at the field of the fire Lannister’s had 10 k. And we know they participated in dorne with Daeron. In which they brought a sizable host. 7k is so little

Even if the greens weren’t the best military wise, just by pure numbers and supply they should have put more of a fight on the ground.

​@@aaronford4159They actually brought twice as many to the field of fire. The lannisters and Gardners had a combined strength of almost 55k. So the lannisters brought around 20k. So they should have been able to raise another army to try to push back the ironborn

They did I haven't seen the show yet that's a real shame

Gullet is too expensive so this must be that. Or season 3 we got battle in every episode.

They didn't have Tywin. The Lannisters only really prospered under Tywins leadership. His father, grandfather and predecessors were never really as strong as Tywin.

She wins the war

I'm glad you enjoy the content. I love the concept of the Fishfeed and i do think it often gets overshadowed by a lot of the other cool battle is the Dance. Rooks Rest, Gullet, Both Tumbletons, The Butchers Ball. But this battle really is significant in the war for both sides.

@@WorldOfWesteros You are absolutely right. I as well feel like it does get overshadowed by some of the other battles. It wasn't as pivotal for the Blacks as say The Butcher's Ball was. I don't think it was as much loss as life as The Sacks of Tumbelton. This video is now one of my favorite battle videos from your channel. This one and your Battle of the King's Road. I was thinking with the announcements of H.o.T.D announcing several significant characters being cast I was hoping to get one of your awesome opinion piece videos on the subject. I would love to hear your thoughts on the casting of Alys Rivers, Alyn of Hull, the two Hightowers,and the Eldest Strong. I am more than content and happy with your Great Houses and Battles of Westeros videos but your opinion piece videos are really well done. I greatly appreciate them. They always leave me with a different take and perspective that I had not taken into consideration. Regardless, I am glad I found your channel. Definitely the best of it's kind.