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Just make sure you *are* developing your own thoughts and not just copying the opinions of others on topics you can't be bothered to research and ponder yourself.
@@julesdudes853 I've taken philosophy courses at university where people sit around, acting all intellectual while basically repeating RU-vid commentary videos all day long, not processing any of the information they're given. Actually thinking is harder than you'd think.
I just made it go from 1k to 1.1k . Feels good. BTW great video. Needs more views. I am always impressed at how much footage you manage to find from over a century ago.
Police will 100% of the time side with the extreme left or right wing statist that hold captive the rest of society. I met a cop once at a party and he told me he is completely cool with civilians not having rights to bare arms because he's a "LEO" and he would never have his arms taken away. I'm sure this channel isn't the greatest supporter of the 2nd amendment but this comment goes with the theme of the video, so I figured I'd post.
They'll either be fondly nostalgic for our time of unwavering liberty compared to theirs, or think of us as living through the dark ages of a backslide into feudalism.
One must note that all human social orders have about them a coercive domain of activity, whether through exhortation, physical enforcement of cultural & political, yet always largely 'local' norms as to place & time. Wittvogel, in _Oriental Despotism_ ( to-day an 'racist' title ) provides an extended commentary of the historically perhaps most common mode of social control of masses through forced labour on public projects such as dams & irrigation. Indeed, since our species-urbanisation the majority of humans to have lived may be said to have passed their lives, 'brutal, short' AND ordered about, under such despotic conditions. All the more remarkable then the brief half-millennium of the Renascence civilisation, that over time fostered the moral, social, creative & political cultural individual of now-waning North Atlantic world. Whereas to-day said 'individuals' have declined into legions of grossly diabetic 'consumers', all slyly 'ordered about' by a new DIGITAL despotism; this, of course, marks the end of the Late Modern human 'individual', now lost amid clouds of CO 2 emitted by ever-larger 4WD motor vehicles, the apotheosis of 'self-expression'' by these end-time western [ or, abroad, westernised_ ] 'personalities. Therefore, the historical question emerges: MUST all social orders centered above all on material expressions of ( rivalrous ) )individualism necessarily subside in to ensuing environmental ruin? *****
Astonishing video essay, replete with facts regarding the brutality, the violence ,of the state and capitalist class war as set in stark contrast with the inclusion of transparent historic pseudo-educational police propaganda. Highly recommended.
Love that you touched upon the intersection of race, class, economics, capitalism, and an ongoing inability of a certain type of people to see what can cause poverty. However, there was little said about the relationship of imperialism to the creation of police forces; the techniques that were built, improved and perfected in the control of colonial "subjects", soon to be imported and used back home upon their own citizens.
@@SeanWinters My man, if there's any concepts in there that need clarification I am more than happy to help you figure out the tomato from the lettuce.
I just want to say your work is amazing and please keep it up! These videos are truly amazing and you deserve hundreds of fold more views. Love your work man.
Power, in the sense of the police in the video, seems to be something that requires an opposing force to consolidate itself (in this case a largely imagined criminal class). Something that cannot exist without reminding what it is against. Then what could be a kind of freedom that could provide an alternative to such power? It is, I think, a freedom that denies any fixated opposition. If power puts two things into conflict, prioritizing one over the other, we should not stop at pointing out the irrational nature of such hierarchy. We should also disrupt the very opposition by throwing new terms, acting in an unexplainable manner by the traditional structures of power. What I expect from such activity is not an elimination of power, but of a different structure of power that hopefully has more room for change. In other words, replacing one symptom for another. I believe this is the best we can do in the current situation where our thought more or less operates upon traditional logic that can only think two things in terms of opposition. But who knows, maybe thinkers like Irigaray will bring about fundamental shift?
In the context of now when the "class of business men" are taking claim of all production and value in society this historical depiction of judicial implementation is timely. For the institution of policing to be continuous it would need to be adopted by broad social structures. Despite the lack of these structures existing in the initial justification of the formation of said institution they would have in some sense be absorbed. They likelihood is that they came from the people organising the institution. My thinking that the reason why the "class of business men" is abandoning the policing structures now is for the same reason "they" helped create the institution in the first place. When the institution absorbs more of the societal functions, the evidence of the criminal class becomes less apparent. Therefore the remarkable similarity of the language and project within the justification for policing used by current conservative politics means that somehow their place, class, in society is be undermined. The lack of evidence for their claims and projection onto others not in their "class" says more about their detachment from societal engagement than anyone else's morals.
Policing and prisons have existed for as long as the state has existed. The modern prison industrial complex, as far as I know, did not exist prior to the formation of the modern capitalist state. This video barely does anything to actually substantiate the argument that the institution of policing itself is what's unjust. Even when overlooking the rampant bias-and assuming that the findings of the single study cited are actually borne-out across multiple studies-policies like punitive justice, the war on drugs, segregation, criminalization of prostitution are more morally bankrupt than the mere existence of police (at least from a consequentialist standpoint). End these policies and you've already ended the bulk of the war on poverty. Police are law enforcement first and foremost. If the laws the institution enforces stop being unjust, then the institution itself stops being unjust. The only "truly" unethical aspect of policing is that its often structured vertically-in the form of a police state. If it were done via mutual aid, or through the creation of a policing task-force alongside a civilian oversight committee, it wouldn't be unjust. When I as black American am more likely to get killed in my own neighborhood-by my own people-than I am to be killed in war or by a cop, you can't sit here an tell me crime ridden and impoverished communities wouldn't benefit from policing. Not only are black Americans considerably more likely to be killed in their own communities from black on black homicide than they are cops, black homicide cases receive considerably less funding for investigation than white homicide cases. Nowadays it seems like the left is too proccupied with petty moralizing, and citing outdated literature to posit in worthwhile perspectives on city. If you want to know more about the systemic and historical under-funding black homicide cases, I highly recommend you read Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America by Jill Leovy. The world would be a much better place if people stopped pretending not to be racist/classcist and actually did something ameliorate these issues. "With violence at every turn, you’d think that cops must be churning out case after case. But they’re not. As it turns out, most homicides involving black male victims go unsolved and unpublicized, despite (or perhaps because of) their prevalence. The conviction rate - that is, the number of convictions divided by the number of cases - for black homicides is significantly lower than those of other demographic groups. For instance, in the early 1990s in Los Angeles, around 36 percent of perpetrators of murders of black people were convicted. That’s not much better than the 30-percent conviction rate in Jim Crow-era Mississippi!"-(Ghettoside Key Idea #2: In most cases, the perpetrators of homicides are never prosecuted: lifeclub.org/books/ghettoside-jill-leovy-review-summary) Crime is just as much a war on poverty as policing. If capital, and order aren't protected and maintained within a community, it will be impoverished. Capital will from instead of to it as a destination.
it makes me think about how much of what is stated as fact now will be laughed at, how much unnecessary suffering continues until we discover, or admit, that we don't have it right
it isn't whether you are beign rational or not. It is what is your end goal. Acting rationally simply means acting in a way condusive to achieving your goal.
You should take a look at the origins of US policing. From what I can gather there is a regional split along the Mason-Dixon Line. Policing in the Deep South originated in the slave patrols that enforced the laws supporting chattel slavery, while the police of the Northern states evolved to police the rapidly industrializing cities. Great video and channel, btw.
Maybe I'm just weird but I have to watch the vides on this channel at 1.5 x speed. Not just this channel but all videos on RU-vid. Relatively, it's like I'm watching videos made by people travelling at 3/4 the speed of light, or are on a planet that look's like Earth but instead has a mass 1000 time's the mass of the Sun. A theory is that as gravity increases so does entropy. In psychology, increased entropy of thoughts and behaviours are associated with increased anxiety. I dunno...? It seems heavy man.
Policing and prisons have existed for as long as the state has existed. The modern prison industrial complex, as far as I know, did not exist prior to the formation of the modern capitalist state. This video barely does anything to actually substantiate the argument that the institution of policing itself is what's unjust. Even when overlooking the rampant bias-and assuming that the findings of the single study cited are actually borne-out across multiple studies-policies like punitive justice, the war on drugs, segregation, criminalization of prostitution are more morally bankrupt than the mere existence of police (at least from a consequentialist standpoint). End these policies and you've already ended the bulk of the war on poverty. Police are law enforcement first and foremost. If the laws the institution enforces stop being unjust, then the institution itself stops being unjust. The only "truly" unethical aspect of policing is that its often structured vertically-in the form of a police state. If it were done via mutual aid, or through the creation of a policing task-force alongside a civilian oversight committee, it wouldn't be unjust. When I as black American am more likely to get killed in my own neighborhood-by my own people-than I am to be killed in war or by a cop, you can't sit here an tell me crime ridden and impoverished communities wouldn't benefit from policing. Not only are black Americans considerably more likely to be killed in their own communities from black on black homicide than they are cops, black homicide cases receive considerably less funding for investigation than white homicide cases. Nowadays it seems like the left is too proccupied with petty moralizing, and citing outdated literature to posit any worthwhile perspectives on socitey. If you want to know more about the systemic and historical under-funding of black homicide cases, I highly recommend you read Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America by Jill Leovy. The world would be a much better place if people stopped pretending not to be racist/classcist and actually did something ameliorate these issues. "With violence at every turn, you’d think that cops must be churning out case after case. But they’re not. As it turns out, most homicides involving black male victims go unsolved and unpublicized, despite (or perhaps because of) their prevalence. The conviction rate - that is, the number of convictions divided by the number of cases - for black homicides is significantly lower than those of other demographic groups. For instance, in the early 1990s in Los Angeles, around 36 percent of perpetrators of murders of black people were convicted. That’s not much better than the 30-percent conviction rate in Jim Crow-era Mississippi!"-(Ghettoside Key Idea #2: In most cases, the perpetrators of homicides are never prosecuted: lifeclub.org/books/ghettoside-jill-leovy-review-summary) Crime is just as much a war on poverty as policing. If capital, and order aren't protected and maintained within a community, it will be impoverished. Capital will flow from instead of to it as a destination.
You got a source for this judge's ruling? "14:56 streets exist is passage a judge ruled 15:00 in 1913 there is no such thing as a 15:03 right in the public to hold meetings as 15:05 such in the street "
Really cool video. Honestly probably one of the better ones I've seen from your channel. I like these videos where you seem to explore topics more so than a specific thinker, or a topic from the perspective of a thinker. Your ideas hold up on their own merit.
Were you inspired by any of Foucault’s work on this? (Or any theorist or Philo in general?) Also, have you read any of Orwell’s essays or books and been influenced by them in creating any content?
Can't you be against a system that works in your favor? The fact that people in Bangladesh are exploited to make cheap clothes that I can buy in The Netherlands, works in my favor. I still wish it would be different.
It's said that grip of the pan is made out of wood so one doens't but their fingers, but ACTUALLY *describe situation as nefarious process of capitalism.* It's claimed that the seats at a bus station often have a cubicle and roof to prevent a wating person from bad weather, but ACTUALLY *describe situation as nefarious process of capitalism.* The issue I have with those narratives is that it's just far too easy to wrap them on any topic. One can for sure see that the upper class would want to argue away that crime is a symptom of class differences, but why does this history lesson convey that having policemen on the street is a bad idea? Sounds as one must either imagine that human nature is such that in principle we could live in absolute harmony, or that coming together and planing how to police justice is always a slippery slope that ends badly. There's an interesting dicussion about the extent to which a community should set and demand virtuous behaviour. And I'd not by cynical about a tool just because it can be used to hit people. I support the ideal of a smart and respectable executive staff.
