The FNAF Fan Games That Never Came To Be 

0:45 >surface level fight me i'll make a sequel just to spite you jokes aside, loved the video!! :D

"David is a boring name" Yea thanks bud.

Hey man, I'm still alive and kicking' even if barely. Listening back to what I did and how I approached things always makes me cringe. I felt like I had my entire life pulled away from under me and that got me to overshare and traumadump as a coping mechanism, something I should not have done in the 1st place and something I definetely should not have tried to defend in the ... 2nd? place? It made me lose longtime friends and aquantences and feeling barred from the community. Anyway, I'm glad to see there's still love for Aftonbuilt, and I still hold it too. In a perfect world it would've been out by now, but sadly we do not live in one. I'm hoping that I can finally put something out there again that people can play one of these days. I have not been stagnant, in fact there's been lots behind the scenes but all went nowhere in the end, running into dead ends. Lets see if this year can be a better one.

7:20 i think the issue with phil wasnt really him not "controlling his fanbase" and instead him just not taking the situation seriously from the very start instead of just making jokes about it until, by phil's own admission, he saw his friends siding against him

Im pretty sure phisnom is completely barred from even mentioning fnaf ever, which is why some of his have been taken down, so porkchops horror show aint coming

Phisnom recently said on a stream that he was in a bad part of his life when developing FNAF+, saying that was a reason he did drinking streams so much back then. I feel this definetly played a part in both his slowed down game development and not taking the Twitter situation as seriously as he should have

Whenever a fnaf fangame is announced, there's a 40-60% chance that said game will be canceled. It sounds like a pessimistic thing to say, but I've seen my fair share of good fnaf fangames get canceled to not believe otherwise.

I'm still so mad bout fnaf+

Hey, thank you so much for covering cog! It means a lot that you were really understanding about it, and I'm really sorry it was so hard to find references for the game. That was entirely on me since I migrated the page to my archive page awhile back, so most of the stuff logging the game's development was nuked as a result. Another thing, I've actually been suffering a lot of burnout with GSaF lately and you mentioning it actually helped reignite my want to finish the project so I just wanted to say thank you for that as well. Overall this is a great video, and I'm genuinely shocked it isn't getting more attention. Keep up the good work dude!

While no you can't control your fan base, I do believe a simple, "hey, that's awful behaviour, don't do that!" Post would've been more than enough from Phisnom showing he doesn't condone the behaviour from his fans, however the post he made didn't do that did it? Wasn't supporting it but wasn't chastising the bad people in his audience either and making a joke about the situation, I mean there's no other word for it except self destruct. The man acted in a way that was unbecoming of an influencer and I see Fnaf+'s fate as his wake up call that he needed to do better, sometimes wake up calls, hard crashes back to reality, they can be devastating, I get that, but ultimately if he comes out of this a better person, maybe it was worth it

The fact that phisnom did something stupid once, got his game cancelled as a result and subsequently not only had someone remake the game from scratch from screenshots alone, but someone make a remake in fucking *Geometry Dash* is beyond hilarious. Honestly, if that shit happened to me, I wouldnt even be mad, thats funny as hell

I think with the Phisnom thing it wasn't about "controlling his fanbase" no decently-sized content creator can ever dream of doing it. It's the joke apology that really did it. If he had made an actual sincere apology, denouncing the people who actually sent death threats, it would've been fine. Instead, he joked about something that should've been handled with a more serious tone

I want to add something to Phisnoms' situation, which i think contributed heavily to him stepping away from the project. Scott Cawthon essentially barred Phil from any outside help while projects like Flumptys 3 and Popgoes had mulitple people or even teams working on it. From what Phil has said in the past, Scott was being very protective and picky when it came to the FNAF+ as it could be viewed as an extension of the main brand, meaning who whole project had to be developed solo, including things Phil was uncomfortable or unfamiliar with like Sound and Music. I think this is what i think drove Phisnom away, the main parts of development were finished and he was getting burnt out with doing everything himself.

FNAF+ and Aftonbuilt are really scary examples of how making a fnaf game (or any game in general) can have HORRIBLE consequences when your not mentally fit for the challenge. I know this cause I was a roblox developer back in 2021. And trust me, i've been through some *horrible* things...

If phisnom would have kept his big mouth shut, FNAF+ would probably never have been cancelled.

Phisnom actually somewhere said he has no problem with existence of this remake

8:37 During one of his streams someone brought it up and Phil said “good for them, go for it.” This was actually made before the controversy happened and he also joked it won’t matter once his version comes out.

Ah yes, Theft king. I knew he would pop up at some point in this video when you mentioned Aftonbuilt. Bro must run on remenant cause hes forever coming back with new controversies. (bad joke ik im sorry 😔👉👈 plz don't hurt me)

Scott has hired alot of people that are either psychopaths or people who have a huge ego. He needs to find creators that are normal people

Kinda of a shame the phisnom situation had to end that way I'll hope he at least finishes Porkchop's horror show

At this point, I'm pretty much done with fangames, 7/10 fangames just end up getting canceled for some reason. I just can't win, it's only official stuff or nothing for me now

Btw a toxic RU-vidr named sleeplive was also responsible for FNAF + to get cancelled, he downplayed the situation more than phisnom taking it as a joke, said that phisnom shouldn't have apologized and to add insult to injury he threw the person that should not be mentioned under the bus by putting his irl face in his thumbnail, accusing them of using the controversy clout and downright bullying and belittling them I'm not saying that you should harass sleeplive but he needs to be held accountable

Phisnom has mentioned he doesnt care that someone made fnaf plus. In fact he said more power to them

I loved the commentary in this one!! Also this has such high production quality but nowhere near enough views and likes 😭 keep up the good work 💪💪

Based for gomo mention, also great video you deserve more views

F*cking theft king, man, always getting into something. Great video BTW, love your style & all that, really great stuff.

4:11 That noise plays when you sumo fight the elder goron and the town leader in twilight princess legend of zelda Like a pig to a truffle, man

I've been watching since the FNAF fan songs video and I feel like your on the right track content wise so keep it up. On another note I would love if you did another FNAF fan songs video but a bit more of a deep dive into more specifics that weren't mention in the first one.

16:08 The game actually did have a Trojan, however, Theresnosteak had no idea how this could've happened since the devs never encountered this issue. She took the page down to prevent anyone else from getting a virus until said problem was resolved. Which obviously never happened.

I sometimes wonder if there's a reality where Porkchop's Horror Show and FNaF Plus actually came out 🥲

I love your editing and music choices dude awesome job

Awesome vid dude. Just stumbled across it on my recommendeds. Hope to see more from you in the future. Dig the outro btw, what is that?

Banger video man you've got some good humour with the editing

"sinister turmoil "is a instresting case of a cancelled fangame, its a massive rabbit hole with a bunch of teasers,demos and some trailers

Phisnom actually is pretty cool with fnaf plus remakes because before fnaf plus was cancelled there was a ton of fnaf plus fan games made and he breifly mentioned in a stream he wanted to do a stream someday where he plays all of them and he was pretty positive about it Also porkchops horror show is completely cancelled he mentioned it on a stream a year before fnaf plus's cancellation

A great video once again!

Love the fact that you show scott talking on the phone as a phone while using a phone🤣🤣🤣

6:44 I think this story shows one of my biggest gripes with the state of the internet today. Back in like, 2016, people would say f-d up stuff all the time, and no one took it to heart because there was no expectation for responsibility on the internet. People knew that youtubers are often just dumb teenagers poking fun with their editing softwares so even if there were 5 dramas a day in the style of the Phisnom situation, it would not result in games getting cancelled and channels going silent, but would just be a "f- you and I'll see you tommorow" sort of deal. Nowdays, people are expected to be perfect and responsible, and the crowd, especially in platforms like Twitter that encourage hostility, is given _way_ too much power over the individuals actually putting in the work to make stuff. This creates situations like this: -phisnom says game is boring -someone jokingly says phisnom's game is boring -twitter is twitter -phisnom doesn't take it seriously -*game gets cancelled for good* This whole situation wreaks of a big lack of understanding in the internet that people can be stupid sometimes and make mistakes or say mean things, because that's the world we live in. And you can't solve things by manifesting a mob around every person that says something you dislike. Instead, you need to be compassionate to the people around you and distance yourself from people that make your life worse. And it honestly pisses me off how much great things go down the drain over the stupidest and most menial shit in the world piling up in the most irresponsible ways imaginable. We aren't in a soap opera nor a sit-com made for children. We are living in a real and complicated human society and we need to accept it.

While I do think Phil was in the wrong for how he handled the situation, I think people (mainly ultra-hardcore fans of FNAF) were just looking for any excuse to get him out of the community. FNAF+ just happened to be caught in the crossfire since he was developing it

Great video! Loved how you tackled the topics and the drama, i felt it was respectful enough ^^ The Fnaf+ situation as a whole is sad, while i know creators can't be expected to control each and every follower they have when they are doing stuff in the name of the creator, the way Phil handled the situation was really bad The consecuences of basing your internet persona on being an annyoning and hateful dude that makes problematic/controversial comments (even if it is just a persona and not your real personality) is that you'll attract people who are annyoing, hateful and problematic as your audience, combine that to the way phil decided to not take the situation seriously soon enough, and it's kinda obvious something like this was gonna happen This is why i deter myself from following Content Creators with that kind of personality as a selling point, a lot of the times they are bad people or their followers are bad people or a combination of the two, it's just safer to not get close to that kind of content creators for your mental health I never cared much about Fnaf+ tbh, but still it's sad the og game will never be finished bc a lot of people were really excited for the game, i hope Phil learnt from this experience as is more careful of the way he treats his audience, and i hope he keeps creating stuff bc he might be annyoning, but he's really good at his job 🙏 About the fnaf+ Fangame situation i have to say that: I am super against AI voices and all of this AI generated Content trend that has become popular lately bc it is mostly trained and based on stolen content made form real artists and actors. I am very happy that Scott is also opposed to AI voices, but i am ever happier that the Fnaf+fangame dev owned up to his mistakes and decided to contract a real voice actor for the game, even if at the end the game wasn't allowed to be published (which is understandable tbh) People are allowed to make mistakes, and while i dislike AI voices and such, i don't think we should execute people for using them or smth, specially if it is small creators that may even not know the damage these AI tools are provocating to the industry, it's not a sin to not know every single problematic backstory of every new popular product, specially one that has been sadly really normalized by a lot of people these past years. I am glad the dev learned from this experience and i wish them the best of luck in future projects they decide do make or participate on ^^ The Afton build situation is sad bc how it was handled, it doesn't help the fact that theftking became involucrated lmao, i wish the best for the devs of the game and Jeli, i hope their work is able to be properly appreciated and published in the future if they decide to continue doing games, be it as a team or as separate people Seeing a complete vision of what Afton Built was gonna be it's gonna be it's probably impossible, but i'd still love to see projects inspired of ideas that weren't able to be used in the game yet Also, what's with Scott hiring problematic people lmao? Scott seems like a good dude, but i think he needs to take more care of the Fnaf fans he decide to work with in the future

I genuinly love your videos man

wow this is such an underrated channel!! love your content :D

Oh damn I didn’t even notice cog forever spinning got its page deleted since I was following it and installed it once it was uploaded

19:09 reminds me of the games Patty & Mr. Miles and HetaOni. Both were games/sequels that were cancelled due to their computers failing after some well known natural disasters in Japan. It’s always sad to see games end cuz of this issue, esp Patty & Mr. Miles since it was left on a cliffhanger

Personally, i wouldn't have any issue with Phisnom, i do admit that Ruin isn't scary, and it gives more questions than answers, but he really could've gone about it differently. PLUS, he said that he delays FNAF Plus' release by 1 day everytime someone asked him for a release date, so that's already pretty petty if it isn't a joke, and the way he addressed the situation on twitter... I don't think it's that hard to tell your fanbase 'hey, don't sent death threats to people over a game with killer robots', but for Phisnom, seems like it was.

While I generally agree with your opinion on Phisnom and FNAF+, I do think he’s accountable for his own actions. He can’t control his fanbase, you’re totally right. Ppl shouldn’t expect that. The main issue was that he said he wasn’t going to play Ruin. He knew he wasn’t as into FNAF anymore, but he played Ruin for some reason. And of course he disliked it. This whole thing began cuz he couldn’t stick to his own decisions. He can’t control his audience but he can control his own actions, and he refused to do so. All he wanted was an excuse to vent his frustrations out on, and I doubt FNAF+ would’ve been made, like you said.

W video definitely subscribing

FNAF 2 took 4 months, Candy's 2 took 7 months, Flumpty's 2 took "about 4 weeks" how did FNAF Plus, a reskin of FNAF 1 take over 2 years to develop there was only 2-3 ways FNAF Plus was going to end Phisnom shadow-dropping the game after everyone gave up and him barely talking about it Phisnom getting into a controversy cuz of his shit personality and canceling the game Scott forcing Phisnom to release something

What about fnaf tycoon

Really sucks to hear that about Aftonbuilt. I remember watching Markiplier play it and thinking it looked really interesting, if not a bit janky and poorly balanced, more or less. I also hope someone either picks it up and takes the idea and makes their own spin on it, maybe releasing it in "chapters" since there were 4 pins on the map.

4:43-4:52 Yeah i gotta agree on that situation involving that person being very ironic. I tend to look at that part is two wrongs not making a right. It overall feels like the drama between Phisnom and this fan really got blown out of proportion and both sides did stuff to make themselves look bad. It's sad FNAF+ got cancelled by at the same time it does feel like a blessing in disguise on Phisnom's part. At least there's the version by LostPaw that came close to Phisnom's vision of the game so FNAF+ technically does have a happy ending.

Will you do five nights at Freddy's final hours 3 which did have a demo but was cancelled too

My thoughts on these cancelled games + the unofficial remake is cool 39 II neat Cog bot disappointing but fair Aftonbuilt i was sad about this one for a while and the reason the mechanic helps Afton is cause Afton promised to the mechanic to make his family immortal ( or something along those lines )

Hey! This was a really good video dude! But I do recommend turning the music down in certain bits, it’s a little hard to hear you sometimes, especially in the beginning. Other than that, this was a great video!!

Posted 2 days ago!? How did I not watch this already!?

Cant wait for ur next upload gurl

awe man... i wish aftonbuilt ended up cookin. loved workin with that team n everything about the project, and i dont blame the homie liam at all. we were all angry but we shoulda just kept our cool and not let our emotions get the better of us

I still see the fnaf + cancellation as a everyone's too blame for what happened. Phisnom forgot even if is his persona is supposed to toxic, that people will have buttons push if it involves kids and them being exposed to something. fans because they acted inmature and did behaviour which instead of making them the ones to paid it fell on Phisnom instead and finally the other side of community which where saying Phil got what he deserved but showed hipocresy and the same behaviour they were calling him for. I agree this whole thing should't had cost him the spot in the fanverse, and I actually knew he wouldn't like ruin before his stream because when I saw dawko's playthought I knew it had the things Phil does not like in a horror game and even he made clear at first he was not gonna play ruin but gave in just because people were telling him it "fixed security breach"

I would really love someone to talk about Pyro Illusion That was like the most hyped one from the early days

I might be the only one, but I always thought it was "The Cog Forever Turning" and not "Spinning" 😭 probably because I didn't pay attention to that fangame as much

I think it's a real shame that fnaf + got scrapped. I know what Phisnom said was wrong but I still feel sorry for him. He lost so many hours of work by having all his fan games and streams removed and was forbidden from ever talking about a series he'd previously loved. I can't imagen how painful that must have been.

Na, i dont give a crap if people remake taken down games no one bitches when open source dropped

Sadly, fazbear tycoon has to be added to this list

4:45 I know that person being mentioned(I know them online) since I talked with them during that other controversy. I wanted to know both sides of the story since I felt it was a situation where the truth was somewhere in the middle. I also think Twitter went way too far as usual as a doxxing happened. I won’t say anymore as it’s not my place to say anything, and both parties just want to move on.

fnaf plus was cancelled because the creator coudn't get out of twitter for some time and finnish the sound effects

Scott: Afton Built is too ambitious. You're not allowed to make it. Also Scott: Let's release Security Breach! People are gonna love it. I specifically said this because some people criticised security breach and one of the points they made was that it was too ambitious and there wasn't enough time to flesh it out which probably led to the weird story and so much cut content that probably would have made security breach better. Also the glitches. Sucks that Afton Built got done dirty like that.

I still don't know the reason of FNaF Plus being cancelled, I think I have to find out myself

One thing I can appreciate is how you tag everything in your description

What’s the name of the font on the thumbnail?

Am I the only one who doesn't feel like supporting Liam after learning the full extent of the Aftonbuilt situation?

FNAF Plus was honestly something I was excited for. Im not a fan of the dev, but the game looked great. Its such a damn shame.

honestly he did nothing wrong, no creator is really responsible to their fanbase, they have free will, just shows how salty and petty people are to express opinions on things simply cause you're a popular face, if he was a no one, him playing Ruin would do nothing, just shows rabid fanbase and brand bias sheep attacking anyone, a shame

so pissed fnaf plus got cancelled

Using Scott Cawthorne's voice without consent was going to happen eventually unfortunately. I've said it before, just because it's 'easier and cool' doesn't make it ethical and legal. Taking somebody else's stuff without permission isn't right.

Ngl putting the faith of an entire remake of something as big as FNAF in the hands of one kid was never going to end well. Scott himself has got into massive amounts of controversy and he’s a good man with an established career

Wait what other controversy did the kid who got death threats from phisnoms fans get himself into?

My Fnaf game is canceled

All i learned from this video is geometry dash map creators are on a higher level of thinking than us.

This is a great video and all but in future ones please balance you music and voice volume better, the music is so much louder than you.

I always had a feeling from the beginning that phis would get into some kind of controversy and the game would get canceled

So. About phisnom and Fnaf plus. It's a standard situation called "someone said something so it's YOUR problem" flipping WORDS are problem. And that was the reason why fnaf plus was taken down. Maybe he was unitrested maybe not. Us ut your decision? Or someone else's? NO. Then why people care about it? He could just have a brake because of some private stuff. Someone would ask "shouldn't he say it?" No, private means private. Who are YOU to judge? But he was accused of something he wasn't even controlling, because how do you controll how other people act? I saw something in your video, you constantly say "feel, I feel this, I feel like that about this" start thinking dude.

I'm mostly on Phisnom's side with regards to the controversy, but, as pointed out in the Minaxa video, he seems like someone who based his whole persona off of being an abrasive asshole. The problem with doing that is that, when the person gets into a controversy, no one wants to support them since people don't like them due to how abrasive and dickish they are.

i seriously love your videos man, never stop

This vid just serves to remind me how wild the Fnaf fanbase is sometimes.

24:06 i actually saw this situation and it was so dumb and easily disproven, one of the rare Theft King Ws

I actually have a youtube and Twitter dedicated to keeping the teasers and trailers from fnaf plus om the internet lol

couldn't even edge, just busted immediately 😔😔😔

0:11 There was originally a FNAF 6 planned, but it ended up being cancelled and instead we got Pizzeria Simulator.

Amazing content bro, you’ve earned a sub! When you get huge on YT please don’t dm minors

You forgot Jollibee's As above so below ?

no wait the geometry dash fnaf plus is hilarious i love that.

And he doesn´t even know WHAT was created in 2.1

FNAF+ looked so promising and to see it go down in flames over stupid comments like that is so disappointing. wish it could move developers or something like that

You’re like one of my new favorite youtubers you better not be grooming anyone

The way I see it, the reason these games never came to be is because of one single word. DRAMA: We can never get enough of it.

Theftking is still the king of theft to this day 😔

Phisnom disliking ruin starting all that shit is wild.

10:08 that's the scariest momment of the video

I think LostPaw FNAF+ is like the GTA Underground case. If you don't know this mod made by combining multiple GTA 3D era on which got cancelled because of Rockstar. Not everyone is a sadboy giving up because of one controlversy. Some other team gonna bring the torch and make that a reality. Now we have GTA Mixed which is a open source variant of GTA Underground which not the exact copy but it makes it into a reality.

I'm kinda sad that Aftonbuilt could never be finished it would have been the best fangame ever. I hope it gets revived by someone someday and it was such a perfect fit for the Fanverse even though Scott rejected it it uses somewhat original designs, the story is unique and the gameplay is something we've never seen before. Scott technically had no reason to reject it due to it following all the Fanverse rules