Just thinking that myself then I saw your message. Alot of these films are all the same with the same actors. Nick Love needs to try something different.
As much as billy would have it toe to toe with anyone begbie would destroy him and probably cut most of the blokes with him Half them blokes in there like the idea of being apart of a firm and will stand together but the moment begbie would cut billy bad and then start going to work on the others they would all melt
@@chrishenderson9826 it’s not even a question, one of the scariest things in the world is a short mental jock(Scotsman), all that firm would about turn and start swimming to France if begbie jumped off a train and started walking towards them
This was pretty common growing up in London in the 70’s and 80’s , banter they call it, always thought it was shit and decided to not be around the wankers who were like that .
That's why it annoys me when people compare this to goodfellas. Goodfellas henry pretty much knew it was a joke but wasn't quite 100% sure and tommy did it in good fun. Here it's about asserting power and being a nasty piece of crap
I've met people exactly like that who will hide their aggression and outright nastiness under the cloak of 'having a laugh'. They can be brutal and if offence is taken, will admonish the person for not being able to 'take a joke'. The trick is to know the difference. Go to some parts of England, and friends will play hard, calling each other names that polite society would recoil from, but they honestly mean nothing by it. Then there are people who behave exactly like Bill does in this clip, who are very, very different.
I remember when this came out when I was in secondray school. Me and my mates thought it was the coolest thing ever. Watching it now, I just find it cringey as fuck.
Roland Manookian is an underrated actor, his slow descend into being properly hurt is very well done, and he's fucking hilarious in Rise of the Foot Soldier 4
I think there's actually 5 rotfs films. Apart from the second one I've throughly enjoyed all of them, and yes the one where Roland gets knocked out by "nigel benn" and then proceeds on a drug fuelled jaunt around Europe with tucker is utterly hilarious.
Man this gives me chills. I had a mate like this and I was always trying to get him to calm down. Because him I lost alot of friends. Every time I brought someone down after a couple of weeks he would pull rank on them. After 20 years of friendship I had to drop him as a friend I see him about but I knew one day he will pull this same crap on me so before it got to that stage I slowly had to let that friendship go.
You find for such people their own importance in life is being the name in that pub someone feared etc they normally have not much else going on for them in life so cling onto that
Frank Harper captures the charachter he plays spot on. Everybody knows a Hale fellow well met type , but inder the surface is a dangerously unpredictable person on a short fuse . Best to have these sorts of people on your side but at arms length .
Not sure about that. Most low-end actors are going to be nice to their fans and lap up the attention because they don't get too much. I know he was a raging cokehead during this movie and for some time after. He is known to fall out with people on movie sets and has had a number of run ins before. That may be in the past though. He's a good actor either way. Not convinced he is as nice as you make out though haha.
@@db7610 cancers gonna get you both mate. Put the fuckin phone down & find your spirituality before it's too late. Fighting is a necessity. Shut your yama.
"I think I should leave you with a spot of ptsd and permanently change your charecter and make you afraid to really be yourself as a result of my fractured ego"
Zebedee says it's just a bubble, imagine if Bill joked and said: just a bubble, oh you are a Hammer arent ya? You are an undacova West Ham geeza on a mission ere son, to have an eye on me and me pals, I'm foreva bIowing bubbles and all that jazz?
This type of seen was more or less replicated in Cass - between Tamar Hassan and Leo Gregory's characters in that case. Still credit to the legend that is Frank Harper - excellent British actor. Anything with him in it is worth a watch
An "accomplished" hooligan with many fights and experience of violence wouldn't feel a flying nut. My speciality when I was young was to grab a hold of someone and nut them repeatedly until they went limp. Better off coming back later and stabbing someone that big up the arsehole.
TheGooners11 funny though. When they come out of hospital attached to a shit bag. My uncle did it to someone who ran my sister over and thought he was a gangster, he didn't sneak up like I would have though. Had to get his balls sewn back on the lot. Hilarious. Killed himself six months later double hilarious.
Nah you've got it wrong pal. All the proper chaps hang about in the youtube comments section. I should know, my old man just had dinner with Danny Dyer and the Krays
"gathering of gathering of arrogant blokes......" I'm intrigued.................................................. Define a gathering of arrogant blokes? Outside the local takeaway on a Friday night Queuing for the taxi home next to some Turkish kebab house On the terraces of your local football team on a Saturday afternoon In the pub surrounded by a bunch of fuckin retards, hang on we've just done that one! My point being, the list is exponential
There are, to date, over 224 million certified movies in existence. There are bound to be a few movies with similar scenes im them, so let's give the producers the benefit of the doubt eh Use your logical analysis skills brothers know you've got em in there, just waiting, patiently, for you to give them an opening to burst out of. You'll find it mate. God willing.
Neil Maskell, saw you at Muhammad Ali's thing at the 02 arena in the gift shop at the end.. Wish i'd come & spoke & had a picture with you mate. Too many problems at the time lol!. You were wearing glasses, which threw me off at the time.. But it was one of them, get back home & then realised haha!!.
You wanna watch Goodfellas again, my friend... Just because both scenes are wind-ups, occurring indoors, doesn't mean The Football Factory is a rip-off... How can we have a film about football hooligans, and NOT have any scenes when the blokes are winding each other up... That's what blokes do, especially when they're in groups, and they're all drinking... The scenes are very different..... In Goodfellas, at no point does Henry try to embarrass, or befool, or taunt Tommy... Henry just says, off-the-cuff, ''You're a funny guy''.... But in The Football Factory, Zeb purposely trys to befool Billy, and it backfires... And in Goodfellas, at no point does Tommy instigate any violence towards Henry... But in the Football Factory we see Billy threathen to take Zeb outside and open-him-up... And finally, the endings to each scene are completely different.... In Goodfellas, Henry and his mobster mates all start laughing like a bunch of loonies when Tommy effectively says it's been a wind-up... But in the FF, they all stay silent, only Billy is laughing when he says it's a wind-up...
That sceene wasn't in the script. Pesci improvise it 100%. After shooting that scee e, Scorsese told to Pesci: Man, that was scary... Pesci replied: Scary how...?
@@LiClan Well, I suppose it does have its fair share of lovable English eccentrics. It could have done with a couple of love songs in it. And maybe a nice supporting role for Julian Clary. Just to maybe broaden its appeal a bit.
I went football for years and had pals like this - violent and unpredictable- but they made up for it by saving your bacon on a good few times when it went off.
I remember watching this scene when the movie came out (I was 16ish) and when I found out their age at the end I was like "You ain't a fcukin kid at 24!"
