The Forerunners Would Dominate in 40k - HaloHammer Part 2 |  

Fun fact before the forerunners lit the halo array they saw another civilization in that 1% of the galaxy that was untouched by the flood reaching space for the first time . It only made them feel what they had to do even worse

To give more context on the sheer scale of technology the forerunners have, a single forerunner can manage the harvesting of raw minerals across an entire solar system with everything automated with trillions of drones and teleportation to move the materials, and that same forerunner is considered a lowly miner in their society. To the forerunners creating artificial suns and creating pocket dimensions and harvesting the energy from other universes is just a regular thing for them. 40k would get trounced by them no competition, forerunner wouldn’t even have to fight they would send quadrillions of robots to fight all the factions at once, all of which they are assembling at a rate of billions an hour because remember, they have the power of suns at their very fingertips. Only faction that could bloody their nose are the necrons and even then they aren’t exactly at full strength as they were during the war in heaven. Many tombs were destroyed by eldar and exploding suns during their nap and the ones that do wake up find a lot of malfunctions and many necrons just not operating.

18:10 Because the cornerstone of Forerunner culture was the Mantle of Responsibility. Abandoning the galaxy was out of the question; the Flood would, eventually, pursue. And even if they didn't, anyone who ever found the Flood after they devoured the Milky Way would place the entire universe at risk.

The Halo's effective range is 25,000 light years in an omnidirectional sphere.

If you want to know how they lost, watch part 3 of Warhammer vs Halo which will tell you about it. They killed themselves along with everything else in the galaxy because basically they were to blame for what was happening, let's just say galactic genocide is a little heavy on the conscience.

34:20 Actually he's not wrong, their power center is made up of 3 individuals, we know them well enough to assume that.

You’ll learn how the flood beat the forerunners next video. Flood are not to be messed with.

7:01 three galactic radii for the whole array and 25,000 light years for a single halo ring. To cover the entire galaxy, they need seven. 34:27 no, this is actually a fact. A forerunner in the book is offered a very similar deal and turn it down.

The current Halo array has a span that usually near max settings is about 1/6th the entire galaxy but if you go to full max settings it would kill everything in over half the galaxy if not the whole galaxy itself. Mind you, they don't do that because it would also destroy the Halos and make them a one time use only. Also, it doesn't take too long to fire the Halo array. Depending if you want one or multiple to fire in their current position or the ark, and the range of which you wish to effect. It takes maybe at most a few minutes One last thing some forerunner do look similar to the didact but he is extremely mutated because of the flood gene he added into his helical structure of his gene-song. So he can be immune to flood infection, or so he thought. Also the chaos gods influencing the AI while possible they wouldn't want anything from them. Plus the other AI would immediately detect if one has gone AWOL or was corrupted in any capacity.

At 10:45 when you said they look like vampires, note that Forerunners had different castes thats they genetically perfected for their role. The didact in the scene is a warrior servant so hes designed to be a fighter. The builders and life servents looked different

Interesting thing about the Forerunners, their Point-Defense Guns were capable of destroying the Halo Rings. For reference Point-Defense guns are guns used to shoot missiles out of the air, and are generally very weak, only being used to knock missiles out of the air and shoot down enemy fighters and bombers. Meaning that their main guns are likely hundreds of times stronger than that. The Covenant were capable of using Plasma weapons to Glass Reach (turn all of the top layer of dirt and sand into a crystalline substance) in a matter of days (It was hours in the books, however the games are the primary source material). And while yes, it was hundreds of ships the Forerunners possessed far greater firepower than those of the Covenant. They had individual small ships that could cloak and chuck asteroids (Harrier-Class) that were more the size of a Phaeton and could be deployed in the thousands by Fortress Class Ships. They also had War Sphinx's that had enough firepower to level a Forerunner city individually (Which would be made out of incredibly durable alloys and Hardlight) and were deployed in the thousands by Fortress class ships and oftentimes would appear as clouds due to the sheer number of them. War Sphinx's could also transform into walkers and fight on the ground like Vikings from StarCraft. Speaking of their Fortress Class Vessels could be on average 50 to 100 kilometers long and wielded Heavy Ion weapons that shot exotic matter at a significant fraction of the speed of light, were considered impossible to dodge or stop, and could with a single shot buckle a continental plate, multiple shots could render a world uninhabitable. Many could even Combine their fire (As seen in Halo Legends), which in Ghosts of Onyx is shown to be more than just addition, as the power multiplies when they combine fire.

The Forerunners have access to extremely powerful capabilities and sheer scale and optimization adapting skills. The Domain is extremely insane and would put the Noosesphere to shame. I wouldn't be surprised if the Forerunners could defeat a C'Tan. And the amount of resources they have access to and how quick they would their proactive responses would be would outpace and outproduce all the factions on the end overtime as they slowly clear and pave the ways of the frontiers. And their Slipspace travel would be able to easily avoid Warp Storms. And they easily have better battle tactical and strageic doctrines and field better equipment and powerful weapons on their ships. The contender class ai would easily outclass Primarchs and Magos in processing entire settings and condition scenarios.

to answer your question, the forerunners committed suicide by firing the halo array because the majority of them felt great shame for the things they did to ancient humanity and felt as if they no longer deserved the mantle of responsibility. there was a small sect of forerunners who sided with the original didact and sought alternatives to the halo rings firing like the Prometheans but by the time they could do anything it was too late for them. That was also part of what Pancreas meant by saying they were "politically infighting."

Chaos has an inconsistent track record with tech. You could pull the plug on old Mechanicus computers to stop the corruption. Chaos can control tech, but it's like playing Craps.

Ur Didact is a heavily modified Forerunner warrior servant commander. They don't all look the same. They genetically modify themselves throughout stages of their lives. And each Forerunner is born and raised within their caste. The Flood are Precursor which are basically Halo's God race. That created everything originally including the Forerunners. The Flood are a physical manifestation of the Precursor which are theorized to be a physical manifestation of the Living Universe. Instillation 00 has a lore and theory series on this . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jqGLwWSq10U.html So basically the Forerunners attacked their creators , their creators let it happen then came back to curb stomp them . The Flood in the games is holding itself back. Also there was no where for the Forerunners to run. A quote form the books sums it up. "Ur-Didact: "We are no longer the same. Look at that forsaken sky. The shadowy dust of old suns glowing deep inside with young light. New stars being born. Planets condensing like rain, covering themselves almost immediately in a velvet of life. When I was young, I saw a universe filled with threat and constant danger. It took the Librarian to teach me it was more beautiful than I could bear... Beauty second only to her own." IsoDidact: "And now?" Ur-Didact: "All I see are the colors of nightmare. Every star turned against us." IsoDidact: "What else do you see?" Ur-Didact: "What I've always seen, what we've always seen. But now it's different." IsoDidact: "The light is over a hundred years old. What could change?" Ur-Didact: "Something deeper than frequency. Look again. The way it invades our eyes. Piercing. Slicing. Concealing. The light shuns us, space itself wishes to expel us. Can't you see? We are no longer welcome here. The Flood changes everything. Not just flesh. Space itself is infected. That's the power the Precursors once had... isn't it? They shaped and moved galaxies! They created us! How did we ever manage to defeat them?" So the Flood are Precursor and they are very angry to put it lightly. Oh and their entire culture and the reason for the infighting is based around the Mantle of Responsibility, aka Mantle. Which is a philosophy originating with the Precursors and later associated with the Forerunners.Bridging the social strata between an interstellar Marshall Plan and a religious, but allegedly benevolent, stewardship, the Mantle was the Forerunners' entitlement and responsibility for the protection and cultivation of the species and planetary systems within their ecumene. The core tenet of the Forerunners' belief in the Mantle was that the most developed species should hold stewardship over all other life. In theory, the Mantle allowed competition and conflict as long as this did not threaten biodiversity in the galaxy. So their entire core ideology is the opposite of Chaos.

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Something I would make a great challenge for the Forerunners to fight is if they had to face a Stellaris nation from the Ancient Cache of Technologies mod where you can gain tier 9.5 Sigma technology. There is a ai character in that mod that can help guide your nation to research and obtain higher tech tiers past Dark Matter tier 5. She has access to alot of knowledge and can produce alot of overpowered fleets if you make her your enemy in the beginning. I think she may make quite the adversary to a Forerunner Contender class ai such as Offensive Bias. Especially with her capabilities and what she knows of higher tier technologies.

Comparing Forerunner political disagreements to ours isn't really accurate. They don't fight each other, they just disagree about how certain goals should be accomplished. And since in 40k experience reigns supreme, there are more than a few that would be millions of years old.

10:29 the forerunner shown here, called the didact, is was heavily mutated resulting in his current appearance.

The reason the forerunners chose mass suicide instead of survival is two fold. The first is they didn’t want to risk any chance of the flood gaining any mass at all. So they (almost) all chose to die by the halo array. The second, even more important reason, is their culture and ideology. They held the Mantle of Responsibility. This is a figurative but also kind of literal title or position bestowed on the race best suited to care for all life in the galaxy. The forerunners valued all life and defended all being equally. When they were literally forced to end all life, they saw as an affront to their beliefs and saw themselves as evil being who could not be allowed to survive their own massacre. That being said, there was a very small group of ships that left for interstellar space before halo was fired as they believed they should live. They called it the Great Journey. It’s unrelated but the covenant found this little nugget of information about this very small group leaving, the halos being fired, and them all dying and mistranslated it to mean the halo rings allowed believers to ascend to godhood via said ‘Great Journey’. Just an unrelated tidbit

you wont see this but to answer your question the forrunners would need seven halo rings to end life in the milky way

You chaos is sentient being halo ring can kill them since they possess brains to kill them

In short the Flood got a chance to scale. It got smarter the more it consumed and integrate the knowledge. The Flood learned how to use all Forerunner tech, managed to subvert their most important AI and by the end was using technology left by the Precursors. For perspective they were to the Forerunners what the Forerunners were to the Covenant if not more so, they literally created the Forerunners. They were effectively eldritch entities, the reason their tech is no longer around is because the Halo rings destroyed it when fired. The Flood, when give a chance to scale, is effectively unstoppable and likely the scariest thing in sci-fi outside outright evil gods, period.

No, that the Didact and he looks like that because he's heavily mutated.

It's funny he tried to latch onto something even tho the halo ring would just wipe everything out

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Tyrannies the same possess brain and it still in the capacity of halo rings to kill them all the forerunners can whip the other galaxies of them

The Necrons would be able to defeat the Forerunners, stop it. They have actual gods on their side. The Forerunners had to fight tooth and nail to stop humanity for goodness sake.