This is the long form educational content that I come to RU-vid for, because it is not available on anything like TV anymore - treated sensitively and honestly with great respect for the victims of the tragedy, and without pulling punches on the perpetrators. Thank you for your hard work! Dear RU-vid: Guys, get your crap together.
Just watched this for second time after seeing Catilan's new posting about RU-vid saying it violated "community guidelines." It sooo doesn't. It's educational, tastefully and sincerely narrated, shows nothing shocking or inappropriate, and tells the story of what should be an iconic event that all Americans' should be aware of because of the deaths for sure, but also because of the lives that were cut short by the stubborness of the boat captain and the greed and stupidity of the boat company owner. This should never have happened, but since it did, we must know about it and learn lessons from it prevent deaths in the future due to lack of standards, enforcement, and just human decency. And the heroes of the Eastland disaster, as well as the everyday victims deserve to be remembered. Thanks Caitlan for such quality documentaries like this one.
My grandfather took me to that pier on a visit to Chicago when I was younger. He said “do you know what happened here?” I being younger said no and he simply responded with “Chicago cried but not loud enough to be remembered ” and never explained what he meant. Thanks for the explanation after all these years Caitlin!
There are videos from the Sri Lanka tsunami in which 200,000 people died,, one of an American man and his wife who were above the flood water in a reinforced concrete hotel watching people go by,, screaming for help and totally helpless and her husband was going to go and jump, but she said no you'll be dead... She could only stop him from jumping over to help by saying,, don't leave me... They had to watch totally helpless as thousands of people went by their spot, floating away to their deaths... Absolutely horrible...
@@marinayacenko3107 Shavarsh Karapetyan and others like him are exceptional precisely because of how rare it is. Shavarsh was also an Olympian swimmer. There are many more stories of people trying to be heroes and getting themselves and others killed. Why do you think you're asked to put your own oxygen mask on before assisting others? At the end of the day, the only one you can truly be responsible for is yourself.
Thank you for this on behalf of myself, and my grandmother Anna Bohn who was one of the fortunate survivors of The Eastland that terrible day. She worked at Western Electric and had just turned 20 years old earlier that month July 1915.. It was so traumatic that she tried not to speak of it her whole life, and vowed never to set foot in a boat, and she never did again living to age 83.
So sorry to read that., And watch video. Sister sent that to me last night after I sent her another horrible tragedie at sea but only maybe 20ft off shore. The Artic and The Atlantic luxury cruise liner. I said in comments on the Artic.. if I was captain I'd out right shot my second in command. I resonantly saw new pictures of the Titanic BEFORE it sailed. In the new images.. I'm sorry to report it was out right murder of all those people on Titanic. Look it up!! It had a fire burning inside ship right where the ice burg hit on out side. And they all new before leaving 🤬 I'm thinking they should have Hybrid Luxury Cruise Lines. No humans driving. Completely over seen by satellite and whatever else.
So heartbroken to hear that some of the best content on RU-vid is being buried by… RU-vid. Y’all stay STRONG and keep going I promise this will be put right. This video is stunningly good and one of my favorite videos I have seen this year.
One of the worst things about it is that her content only helps RU-vid when it comes to being a legitimate source of highly quality informative documentary content. If RU-vid shows such hostility towards good educational content, that only serves to promote dis/misinformation.
My great-grandmother was one of those 3 pregnant widows. My grandmother was born in February 1916. She was names Edros Henrietta - after her father Edward Henry Garner. Because my great-grandmother was pregnant she chose not to go on the company picnic. My GG lost the love of her life and never remarried. ❤
What's your great grandmother's name? I'd like to know the name of the woman who loved Edward, and raised Edros, and complete the picture in my head. Sorry your family suffered through this. Edward is a family name in my family as well, all the boys have it as their middle name, so this stood out to me.
She does a real service in presenting the unvarnished story of death and dying and she does it respectfully. In no way does she ever sensationalize these events. She’s an educator of a difficult topic most of us prefer to avoid. It’s healthy to face it and appreciate the human story in all its facets. She’s the right messenger for those who are interested. Not many could pull this off with her experience and knowledge and a combination of grace and humor where appropriate. Kudos.
RU-vid kicks a truly honest and talented content creator in the face and they falsely flag their content? SHAME ON THEM Caitlin, we are here for you and your team! We love you to death. Keep up the hard work and never give up!
@@213_SANCH3Z .. She's got some but I bet she's pretty busy because funeral rites are changing fast,, post- c*vid... Ordinarily I'd think someone was being,, morbidly opportunistic,, for doing videos about death but she's so cool about it,, with the humor being peripheral and all courtesy and sensitivity given to the dearly departed that one can't help but feel,, this is a Calling and not primarily a business opportunity...
My grandfather was a mortician and owned a funeral home in Gary, Indiana when this happened. He was one of the ones that helped out in Chicago after this awful accident. I still have his star badge that he received for his assistance.
I attended school in Illinois during 1966 and we were taught about this in our 4th grade class and had a field trip to the various sites. Our teacher was one of the survivors. Never let the lessons learned be forgotten and never forget the people who gave their lives to teach us these lessons ❤
That photo towards the end of the man with abject terror in his eyes as he cradles the limp body of a baby is beyond heartbreaking....thank you Caitlin for ensuring the story of the Eastland is not forgotten.
It's disgraceful that RU-vid would censure creators/channel obviously interested in the enrichment of its viewers. This was a great piece of work. Thank you for being such a wonderful and committed creator. Welcome to the East Coast.. If you are ever in Philadelphia I'd happily buy you a cuppa tea.
Agreed. I'm very curious as to what exactly triggered it. Documentaries on youtube seems like an impossibility, yet the "big one" on Plutocracy is still up there. Maybe time to consider copying all content over to alternative platforms? RU-vid absolutely sucks as an "employer". No warning. No rights. No dialogue. No nothing. Just unconditional and unregulated capitalism allowed to run amok. Most other countries have limits to what "private companies" can do. US? Absolutely nothing.
I'll share the news here... It's not RU-vid. The ad agencies unionized against RU-vid, and now dictate the rules. The reason RU-vid policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, RU-vid jumps... Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten RU-vid. RU-vid is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free. Pay for you media.
I just reviewed this video again myself and I don't see what RU-vid is going on about saying she violated the community guidelines that is outside of a normal documentary. The only thing I saw was a very well put together documentary on a tragic event done with great respect To the memory of those who went through it.
I cant stop tearing up thinking about reggie bowles, the human frog. He was 18, he was *younger than i am*, and he pulled 40 bodies from the river. He may not have saved 40 people, but he changed more than 40 lives. Im glad he's being remembered. I hope he lived the rest of his life well.
This story is amazing!! My grandfather (I am 71), was one of the men that helped people out of the water. My ancestors were people that did not talk about The Eastland. Thank you all the details and individual stories you put into these documentaries.
My grandmother's plans changed at the last minute, and she missed boarding the Eastland. It's amazing and chilling to think of the course of events( or not a course at all) if she hadn't been delayed in getting to the Eastland.
So did I. The people I asked (who also grew up in Chicago) don't know about it. I hate to tell you but there are different experiences when one is white. Think about who was on the ship. I would say most people don't know about it enough to even forget it.
As a native Czech, thank you for this video. I knew about this but hearing someone to tell it such respectfully, thank you. And don't worry about the pronunciation. Our words are hard :)
Extremely weird of RU-vid to restrict this video for not being educational when it is literally a documentary! And not a sensationalized documentary, but a really thoroughly researched and collaborative effort involving actual survivors, which is above and beyond lots of the documentaries and video essays I often enjoy (even here on RU-vid). Like I love to watch someone simply telling a story, but this is a really thoughtful and thorough video!
I completely agree. It's an excellent documentary, like the kind I used to enjoy on the History Channel back when they still focused on history and facts.
Disgraceful that RU-vid would not allow these people to be properly remembered in the respectful and caring way you've put forth in this video:( Your team is doing amazing work
Someone at youtube needs to be held accountable for such a blatant error in judgement. These souls need to be remembered and their loss mourned. This documentary was done in the most respectful way possible. You deserve an apology and this documentary needs to be on youtube so everyone remembers the tragedy.
@@taylorkeith4400 Or just edit the algorithm! Such a shame that this will now be effectively buried like the original story has been. RU-vid really needs to get it's collective s**t together. Pardon my French but this really claws at me.
It's so incredibly upsetting that their memory is being buried AGAIN just when a team was specifically addressing this collective amnesia. It feels like "no good deed goes unpunished"!
This doesn't appear to be shadow banned any more as it was once again recommended to me by RU-vid. This is so important and needs to be talked about more often. Thank you for making this
Same, it was recommended to my feeds soon after i've watched Caitlin's video about this topic being restricted by YT's "Community Guidelines". I'm glad an actual human in youtube, reverted the video back to its original status.
@@Briarcastle It’s currently less buried than it was a couple weeks ago, even for current subscribers. Hoping to see confirmation of full guidelines strike reversal soon, if RU-vid really fully reverses all aspects of the bot’s massive mistake and sends the confirmation/ apology to Caitlyn, I’ll stop skipping the ads when I periodically rewatch this incredibly educational documentary.
@@8S1ns It shouldn't have been taken down to begin with. And they never would have done anything had it not been cut the audience tweeting at youtube so much.
Just finished watching the video. I sat virtually motionless through most of it, shedding tears. I am 68 years old and had NEVER heard of this awful tragedy! Thank you for bringing this to so many people who did not know either. I for one will never forget.
I just found this video and had to click on it immediately. I wrote a paper and did a project about the Eastland disaster when I was in high school in Chicago. I was amazed that no one had ever mentioned it in our history classes and decided that I would. The story has stuck with me all these years and I am so happy that others are now speaking about it and trying to preserve the memories of those involved.
Shame on RU-vid for suppressing this. Such a well done, educational video. My partner lived in Wisconsin and Chicago his whole life and had no idea about this tragedy. Your ability to discuss death at such a mass scale with such care and respect is always amazing to me. Have all of your books & watch all of your videos. I hope this gets sorted for you.
I just saw this on my recommended list as well. I hope your video about youtube's mistaken censorship had an effect. I see the views have gone way up over 600K as well. Great job, wonderful, sensitive treatment of a difficult topic, as usual!
Same here, I wanted to actively look for this video after Jessie Gender mentioned that you were having similar problems than those she had with some of her videos, but there it was already in my recommendations. I hope Jessies video is, or will soon be back too.
Shame on RU-vid for flagging this. This was beautifully done. I honestly cried a few times during this story and it’s a shame this tragedy doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.
This broke me, I cried the whole way through. My heart goes out to all those who suffered, who lost their lives, who had to live with the trauma and loss and may all of them be resting in true peace together again. I hope that fireman (and others like him) managed to find some sort of peace and happiness in their lives after… ❤
Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story. I’m from Australia and have almost no ties to America yet I felt this no less strongly. I will never forget this.
It's hard for first responders to process that. My brother pulled bodies out the water after the Taki-Tooo accident (off the Oregon coast). He had not spoken to our mom for years before that (they'd had a falling out) but he called her. He needed his momma, you know? He doesn't speak of it still. It was 20 years ago.
An amazing re-telling of this story, thank you Caitlin. Unfortunately we are once again reminded that corporations aren't our friends, whether they're RU-vid or the owners of the Eastland.
Ms Doughty is a master story-teller and documentarian. She provides her viewers with INFORMATIVE content; stories that are forgotten in time and need to be re-told. We are EDUCATED by Ms Doughty with every video she produces. She always respects her subject and cites her sources. RU-vid is VERY LUCKY to count her as one of their creative content providers.
This is an incredibly important EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTARY that portrays the Eastland Disaster with care, respect, and professionalism. Good work, Caitlyn and crew! You hit this one out of the park, and YT’s dumb algorithm blew it entirely by mislabeling this fascinating content.
This is the best historical depiction of this disaster ever told. The quality of this documentary is unsurpassed. The amount of detail in this production is just off the charts amazing. Caitlin they're not forgotten they will live on in this historical masterpiece.
I literally stopped what I was doing and just stared out in to the room with an open mouth. Never taking it for granted that my baby is safe and happy ❤️
I wanted to know if the baby made it out to safety Odds are that their entire family was on the boat, and possibly died Hopefully a someone managed to grab the baby from the water and got them to safety...
Caitlin, I love this video. It's insane to me that youtube has falsely labelled this video as having violated community guidelines. The first thought I had after finishing this video the first time around was "Wow. Why have I never learned about this before?" You TAUGHT me about this disaster. EDUCATED me on this tragedy whereas I would have otherwise never found out about it. So thank you everyone behind this video! Amazing, hard working and dedicated people behind the scenes!
I saw nothing that would violate community standards. It had no gore, violent imagery. I was more disturbed by the accounts of the police holding the people back from rescuing passengers. Caitlin provided a needed look at the past.
My grandfather worked for Western Electric in Hawthorne. While Western Electric didn't force the employees to go, according to relatives, the leadership of the social club "strongly encouraged" workers to go. My grandfather had to help identify the dead. This was so upsetting to him, he left Chicago permanently.
Thank you very much for this. My great auntie survived the Eastland Disaster at age eight. She lived to be one month shy of 100 years old and was the last survivor alive at that time. You may have come across her interviews in your research. My family is of Bohemian descent and my auntie lived in Cicero for the whole of her life. I’m so grateful she survived.
my family is czech and my great aunt was also in chicago at the same time, but she was about 14, that must have been terrifying for your great auntie, and I wouldn't have been surprised if my great aunt had known people involved in the incident because she was living in the czech community at the time
My great-grandparents were children of Bohemian immigrants. When they moved from rural Grundy county Illinois to Chicago in 1919 with my grandmother, who was only two at the time, their neighbor was a survivor of the Eastland. She taught my grandmother to swim because she lost her own daughter on the Eastland. Her daughter was just two years old when she died.
Reading this comment hits me like a brick after seeing Caitlin's humble (yet impressive) document about the tragedy. May God have and reunite their souls 😢♥🙏
@@SableRain I always cry when I hear about horrible things that happened to children. My son is 30 now, but he was kidnapped at 14 months and was missing for a year. Worst time of my life, and his too. I'm glad he can't remember what happened to him, but his PTSD affected him for life all the same.
police blocking people from helping 100 years ago (or the Texas school hijacking) is ridiculous. Police forget they are Servants of the People not our masters .
It saddens me that this video has been pushed back by RU-vid when you and your colleagues worked so hard on it. It deserves twice the attention than it has gotten 🥺
I must weigh in here, given the recent YT designation: I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL, INFORMATIVE, and most importantly, was produced with the utmost respect to the victims and families of this tragic event. One can tell a lot of work went into this video, and, as an observer of history, I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL and INFORMATIVE. Period.
Such an amazing and sad story, and well told. All those young lives lost on what was meant to be an enjoyable day out. Being in the UK I've never heard of this tragedy before...a massive thank you for educating me.
This is my third time watching this. It's one of my favorites by you and it's so infuriating that RU-vid tried to kill it. I love local history, and it was incredible to learn about something this major happening in my state that I had never heard about. I actually visited the site of the Eastland disaster when I was in Chicago last month. It was such a somber place; I ended up just sitting there for a few minutes and processing everything.
I'm back here again after Caitlyn said this video breached community guidlines and I just want to say to everyone who worked on this that I will do my best to share this video because it is such an important story. I really hope that you are still able to keep making death positive content because, while I am a new fan of the channel, I have always wanted to know more and so long as you make the content I'm sure myself and other death positivity advocates will stand with you.
My great aunt worked for Western Electric. She and my grandfather, her brother, were to be on the Eastland that day. My mother said my aunt was late, as per her usual, so they didn't arrive on time. I am here are living proof that being late isn't always a bad thing. I think my grandfather always kept the killed in his prayers everyday. Like all the others he never spoke about it.
This silence is not only for self preservation, but to let dead dogs lay. I am indigenous American. We you learn, don't ask don't tell or you suffer the consequences.
This was absolutely heart wrenching to watch, but thank you to every person involved in making this because these stories truly do need to be remembered. I grew up near Chicago and never even heard of this before today and that is a shame. What's even more shameful is that RU-vid tried to bury this, especially with the aim being to make sure this story isn't completely lost to time. Thank you Caitlin for all that you and your team do
I'm a year late, but I will continue. My grandmother was born in 1903. For some reason, (and sadly, I can't ask her) she was there by the water when the Eastland went down. She was 12 years old. For the rest of her life (she lived to be 85) she was haunted by what she saw there. She rarely talked about it, but when she did, she usually ended up in tears. What a tragedy! I just found out that YT decided that history is not to be watched by anyone. I often wonder if YT even watches the videos they strike. I just started watching your videos, I think you are great! Edit: after watching the entire video, I still do not see any reason for this video to be taken down by YT.
It's devastating but also gives a sense of comfort because the six of them shared an unforgettable day/ceramony with the girls especially being the ones to help carry the caskets which usually isn't done by friends and family for what I know
@@katewuzhere3794 for me it's important because I got to be the only female pallbarer for both my maternal grandparents and only wasn't for my paternal geandmother because it was under covid restrictions during lockdown x
I cannot believe RU-vid have a problem with this. This tragic event was handled in a reverent and sensitive way. There was nothing gratuitous, nothing sensational, nothing gruesome, this was a factual and sympathetic summation of the facts surrounding this terrible tragedy. It's an absolute travesty that you've been treated this way by RU-vid. If you do decide to use an alternative platform, I, and I suspect most of your subscribers, will follow you there. Keep up the good work.
As a fellow medievalist and history lover, I love this documentary-style production. This is respectful, engaging, well-researched, and educational. Thank you for working so hard to create this content.
The Museum Ship Valley Camp in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, has some history on the SS Eastland. I read about it over this past summer. Thank you for elaborating in more detail. The victims of this tragedy should not be forgotten
Everything about this is beyond sad but hearing that the children had to identify another child's body was chilling. May all the victims rest in peace.
What a beautiful tribute to the victims of this historic tragedy. I am so proud of this channel. This is what I wish more of RU-vid was like. I don't need more makeup gurus, prank videos, or consumerism-based vlogs. Thank you for making quality content that is timeless. Educational content with this level of care and attention to historic fact and cultural significance should NOT because censored or removed.
Thank you for this excellent video on the Eastland disaster of 1915 in Chicago. I forget the Czech word for "family burial plot" but lots of family plots got filled after this disaster. I see no reason for RU-vid to have flagged this video except someone somewhere made a terrible bad mistake. This video is an educational video that would take a book or two of reading to acquire all the information contained in the video. I have been a history student all of my adult life. I have seen numerous documentaries on RU-vid about the Eastland disaster. I study disasters, especially maritime disasters. We can see many similarities between the Eastland disaster of 1915 and the Sultana riverboat explosion of 1865. The Sultana riverboat explosion occurred in April, 1865. The Sultana exploded about six miles north of Memphis. The Mississippi River has shifted so the spot where the explosion happened is now in a farmer's field. But the point here is 1800 plus people died on the Sultana. The worst part was most of the passengers on the Sultana were Union soldiers who had been prisoners of war at Andersonville and other notorious Confederate camps. The captain of the Sultana was paid PER SOLDIER and MORE FOR AN OFFICER. However, the Sultana had had boiler problems in bad need of a major overhaul and serious inspection. Instead, piece meal patchwork repairs were made on the boilers because the captain of the Sultana did NOT want to miss his windfall to make a small fortune hauling prisoners home. We see the cost of greed here in both the Sultana and the Eastland disasters share greed, negligence and the fact no one was ever held accountable. The Sultana captain was killed and other Union officers involved resigned grom the service or escaped court martial. So trials seldom bring justice to the victim's families when the disaster is a huge one. Few people except history students know about the Sultana disaster. President Lincoln's funeral train was coming home to Illinois at the same time. The Civil War had just ended in the East and the Lincoln conspirators were being rounded up by Union authorities. It is so sad that our history textbooks almost never mention the 1800 plus soldiers and civilian women and children who perished on the Sultana disaster. Few memorials and few reminders exist today to tell the story. It is ironic that many of the Union soldiers who were saved were pulled out of the water by Confederate veterans. Something has to happen to make a disaster iconic. Neither the Sultana disaster, the Eastland or other steamboat disasters like the hundreds killed on the Lady Elgin steamer on Lake Michigan in 1860 made it to the "iconic" stage. However, the victims and their families deserve to be remembered for what happened to them and for any lessons history can teach us to prevent other disasters in the future.
Thank you for sharing Rex. Now I and many others have known a little bit about the hidden history of those disasters. I've never heard about them before. I do believe storytelling content creators will cover these stories in the future because of the barely known factor. I mean their stories are underexposed as much as the Titanic story is overexposed. All of these disasters should be remembered and learned from so it won't happen again. Again thank you and God bless you.
I’ve seen your comment almost 6 months later but I want to thank you for sharing the story of Sultana and it’s victims. I’ve never been in USA but my heart breaks the same. It’s morbid to say but I almost wish they had a quick passing as imagining otherwise is torturous. I hope wherever they are now they’re at peace.
Here is a video on the Sultana disaster of April, 1865. One note here is recent scholarship seems to support the concept that the steel used in the boilers of 1850's/1860's steam river boats was inadequate and brittle to deal the high pressures in the boilers. MANY boilers of steamboats of this era exploded on the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers including the Great Lakes steamboats of this era. American engineering understanding of thermodynamics and steel quality improved markedly reducing boiler explosions. The human factors aside, all the passengers and crew on the Sultana were doomed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5DLKI4VltuE.html
An excellent documentary on the SS Eastland. I'm ashamed to say that I was not really aware of this tragedy. Thank you for creating this video and not letting the people who died, to have died in vain.
I was born and raised in Chicago and have known about the Eastland. This is a great documentary that tells it like it is and does not deserve the treatment it's getting. It's real life, not a Hollywood movie. You did a wonderful job, Caitlyn. Thank you for keeping their memories alive.
This video is both respectfully done and educational. RU-vid's decision to censor it makes absolutely no sense. Thank you for shining a light on this tragic event and for all the educational work you do on your channel!
It’s so ironic because I just recently discovered your channel, and what drew me to it was the incredible job you do telling stories and educating me on history others overlook. I hope you will keep doing what you do and don’t let the ill informed and ill intended get you down!
I'm rewatching tonight because I went by the memorial this afternoon. Felt surreal standing in a spot where 800 plus people were gone in a matter of minutes.
I came here specifically because of your other video about this one being shadow banned. Incredibly moving narrative of what happened that day, and I can definitely say I'd never heard of the Eastland before. Thank you for digging up the story and spreading it the best way you can. (Also, happy to hear you'll be moving to the east coast! You and your content are a big reason I'm heading into school to become a grief counselor!)
I wish you well and pay you great respect for the path you're going on; we need more people like you, and with mental health not being taken as seriously as it should be in a lot of places (the Twilight Zone of the East Coast is my home, not by choice, and getting help with my mental health has been a frustrating, nightmarish fight)...I just wish more people got the help they needed. So again, thank you for wanting to help those that are struggling.
Me too! I actually did hear about this disaster in passing on a history channel documentary about disasters following the Titanic but this was more in depth and humanizing. Thank you!
How can this video be accused of ‘violating’ anything???? It is a heartfelt memorial to the thousands who died that day and I commend you for the sensitivity you brought to it. Thank you Caitlin and your team.
All it takes is enough ignorant (likely butt hurt) people reporting it, unfortunate... & For the record Tweeting @RU-vid does actually help, regardless of if they know who the creator is or not. Twitter is actually the best way to get their attention. When through this trying to help Heels in the Air not long ago & Brunt Toast before that. It works! They had their entire channel suspended & not just a warning & shadow ban. Just saying
Hey Caitlin et al! Just to let you know, this video doesn’t appear to be being suppressed any more. I live in the U.K. & recently started watching your channel & last week I watched this video as it was on a suggested videos list when I opened your “ask a mortician” page! So fingers crossed they have now removed the ban! I love your content & I find it really interesting! Thanks for doing what you do!
My grandfather was adamant that I and my brother learn how to swim and made our mom take us to swim lessons. He said it was a survival skill everyone should know because you never know when you're going to need it. Idk why but that always stuck with me and was part of why I ended up developing such a love of swimming.
Wow, I am being EDUCATED for the second time about the short comings of law enforcement and non-graphic display of bodies WITH EDUCATIONAL INTENT because I am an adult capable of making my own decisions about what I watch on RU-vid and I choose to watch this incredible video by this incredible channel who took so much time and care to make this piece, even if it's slightly grim! Love you guys! Great video!
I wouldn't have known of this disaster if it hadn't been for this documentary. That feels like the definition of educational to me, and I can't think of anyone who could have handled this as respectfully as you have.
I live a few blocks from the river and I've passed that exact spot thousands of times and had no idea about this happening... This city is full of so much history I'm completely ignorant of
this is so crazy; I've only heard of this disaster in passing and with the context that it was passengers all rushing to one side that doomed them. It was when I was a kid, and as sort of a "don't be stupid" warning. :/ Now that I'm an adult and aware of just how often people blame the victims of tragedy (especially when there are larger issues woven in to the cause, or a loss of profit is involved) I'm really shocked that this one story stayed in the back of my mind, uncorrected. Thank you for covering this, truly.
I’m watching this again because RU-vid doesn’t seem to understand how educational you have always been and all the hard work everyone put into this it’s so professional
What an EDUCATIONAL video! I have learned so much about the SS Eastland because of how EDUCATIONAL this video is. This video truly does pay tribute to those who tragically lost their lives to this accident and I am grateful to the many people that spent months working on it. I am sure the victims and family members of the victims are glad that their story is being told in an EDUCATIONAL MANNER. Keep up the great work Kaitlyn and friends!
Exactly! Completely agree. It is the very definition of EDUCATIONAL! And so well and respectfully done. Shame on RU-vid for trying to censure it. It warms my heart to see so many here commenting the opposite of RU-vid's very wrong verdict.
No reason to flag the documentary, what were they thinking?? It's very respectful and professional, you can see the amount of time and effort that went into making this. It makes you feel for the victims so much that I cried watching it.
When I was a young kid, I had a relative who worked at Western Electric at the time, and who had planned to go on that excursion. On the day of the sailing, some friends of his convinced his to go with them down to Montrose Beach to chase girls. When he got home, his parents were relieved that he wasn't dead. He hadn't heard of the disaster.
I have been so roundly EDUCATED by this video I can hardly believe it. The way you guys EDUCATED the viewer about how a heartless and clueless corporate entity can do some of the worst things and still not care is amazing. This video is so EDUCATIONAL on the subjects of shipwrecks, tragedy and oversight it should be at the top of the recommended, fully monetized and held up as an example of how good, well made and EDUCATIONAL some RU-vid channels can be.
I’m 70 years old, raised on my mother’s Western Electric salary and benefits. I went to many annual company picnics in Indianapolis and they were a great company to work for. I’m surprised I never heard of the Eastland tragedy. Thank you Katelyn.
I would guess part of why people didn't talk about this disaster might actually be because the company was good to them, good to work for. Like she said, it's not too often we hear of a company simply doing things without having to be begged. Funerals, and the traditions we share with our communities about how we share grief and mourn together, go far toward helping people begin to heal. People knew who was at fault, the captain was being publicly vile the hour it happened. Not a lot of scandal or disregarded anger left to fester. I can't imagine how it would have felt to have all those neighbors grieving in all those houses with doors open.... I think it went a long way that the company made sure everyone had funeral costs and arrangements accessible. A lot of the disasters we know about, it feels like victims have been fighting for decades to even find out how they got hurt or who actually is responsible. Often neglected by their systems and dismissed. No one had to hold onto the story like that here
I really hope this video doesn't get removed. It was so informative and EDUCATIONAL and a fascinating, tragic topic that I'd never heard of! It's amazing to hear from family members of victims and true experts of the topic. I can't believe RU-vid had the gall, the absolute audacity, to say this video wasn't educational.
Just got here from the video about this documentary being buried by YT. Such a shame for that! This is one of the best documentaries I've seen. Educational, engaging and respectful. Thank you so much for continuing this kind of work, Caitlyn! I would have never found out about this event without it. Hoping these kind of documentaries can still continue
I’m shocked that I’ve never heard of this tragedy, it’s strange to me how some tragedies have 100 years of airtime such as the titanic, and this has been so under wraps. Absolutely heartbreaking that so many young people lost their lives in this way, a completely avoidable incident. I’ve only recently found your channel, and watched the RU-vid community guidelines video before, but thank you for what you do. This is the most sensitive and educational documentary I’ve seen on here. Keep doing what you’re doing!
As a lifetime Titanic buff who lived in Chicago for a decade, I passed the Bohemian Cemetery many times and yet had never heard of the Eastland until now. 💙 Thank you for this.
This reminds me of the South Korean Ferry Disaster that killed almost 300 high school students. The difference is that there are videos from inside that ferry showing people who would inevitably drown laughing and joking about the ship even as it was sinking. That line about people treating it like a carnival ride is just so tragically human to me. Even today, we're still just as bad at recognizing dangerous situations.
That South Korean Ferry incident made me so mad, because the students (out of trust and respect for people with more authority) ignored their own instincts to escape and stayed put as instructed. The person who was supposed to have handled that situation hardly did anything close to the bare minimum of typical safety protocol, and had been more focused on saving themselves. It infuriates me. To make it worse, they lied to the parents of the deceased at first, saying that the students were safe and being rescued and inspected for injury elsewhere. The parents were rightfully suspicious of this claim, seeing as they 1. Weren't allowed to see them, and 2. Weren't receiving any texts or messages from the students. Many of the parents had pushed past security to wait at the docks for their children to come back. The ferry's upkeep and safety inspections had been lacking, if I remember correctly too, for the sake of cutting back on costs. The whole situation was so poorly handled that I was shocked that the company of the ferry was even permitted to run their business.
@@lexyshannon9428 yeah, unfortunately just like the Eastland disaster, the ferry Sewol was also dealing with a dangerous distribution of weight (including luxury items) that should have never been allowed. Greed taking innocent people's lives in both stories.
the tragedy also got the current president of the time impeached for trying to cover it up too, and the captain was sentenced to life in prison for murder and abandoning ship.
I was living in S Korea when this happened. It was incredibly infuriating to see how it was dealt with, watching the captain get off the ship, learning of how preventable it was, news of suicides, etc. There are no words to express the anger and sadness.
And the fact the government kept lying and even refusing to try to rescue the kids. The American coast guard was literally in the area and the Korean government told them they couldn't help. The sinking boat was surrounded by rescue vehicles - that wasn't allowed to approach/were told everyone was off. The kids inside had a high chance of still being alive, but the government just wouldn't let anyone dive in. Parents were even told that the kids lived but they went to the site anyways where they were told lies over and over again. Till this day - parents are still looking into why it was all hushed up. I watched so many documentaries of this sinking that it's just depressing.
Wow, what a beautiful and informative documentary. This story of this terrible day for these hardworking people, their families, volunteers and emergency services has really touched my heart. Thank you
I was a lifeguard for 5 years, and in training they teach you how to slip out of someone's grasp, because even when you're a strong swimmer, someone grabbing onto you can be deadly. The mentality was always "you need to be able to stay alive if you're going to be able to help others"
I remember learning about this in my gym class when I was about 14. We were taught to have the life ring between us and the one we were saving because someone who is drowning will (understandably) grab onto anything to stay alive.
@@katlasdahgreat My dad drummed that into us as kids too. As a teenager, his sister almost drowned because she tried to help another girl who was drowning. In her panic, that other girl basically tried to climb on top of her and was pulling them both down. Very fortunately, a couple nearby saw what was happening and came over with an air mattress which saved them both.
@@katlasdahgreat I'm glad you said "understandably", because I do hear plenty of people quoting the phenomenon of drowning people dragging down other victims or rescuers, and suggesting that THEY wouldn't be as foolish or selfish in that situation. Realistically nobody is in control of themselves while suffocating, and certainty not capable of assessing the situation objectively or morally. I just don't believe anyone who is actively dying that way could think "my death is probabalistically nearly certain, and by grabbing this other person I would not only be greatly reducing their chances of survival, but it would absolutely be a bad look for me if we both die". And of course even if you knew that clinging to someone would greatly reduce their chances of survival, and somehow had the presence of mind to make that calculation, you might still understandably choose that risk over the screaming pain in your lungs... because pain (and the death that often follows extreme pain) is a horrible thing that humans have evolved to fear and avoid.
I hate to add this to the mix, but I was taught that if someone gets to violent, to punch them in the face or head, knocking them out. Then dragging them to shore. I've only had to do it once and it was heartbreakingly terrifying because you are dragging a lifeless person. But, it was either that or die trying to save them. When scuba diving, you are taught to fill the vest with air and kick or push the person away. You also drop their weight belt and let them float to the surface. But all of this is in open water. I can't imagine having furniture, hundreds of people, and pollution to contend with.
As someone born and raised in Chicago I never heard of this or ever seen any tributes to this disaster. I hope RU-vid fixes their mistakes because I feel strongly that more people needs to know about this. Thank you and everyone part of the making for the amazing video.
This certainly does not violate the community standards. Everything is educational and the only bodies shown were in pictures. This topic needs to be discussed more because nothing about it was ever taught when I was in school and I graduated in 2011. No warnings were given about it. We barely learned about the Titanic. I learned more about the Titanic from the movie than from school. If anything, we need more videos from Ask A Mortician than less because there is no one else that we can really go to for free for questions or information about such an important topic. So please RU-vid, let her be in peace. She barely cusses, which you e even relaxed your rules about, and the public needs this information. Please make more videos if you have the time Miss Caitlin! I love your videos and love the Death positive movement!
As a former Mortician, I appreciate your channel being here. I am not as up-to-date as you so it's nice to have reliable, educational, and tactfully done content to share with curious minds.
I'm Czech and I have never heard of this disaster. Seeing the tombstones and funeral records written in my language and all the familiar first and last names hit very close to home for me. It really humanized the people that lost their lives and the lives of their loved ones... For a moment I felt like I've just lost a close relative. Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story with us. My prayers go to the surviving families...
I'm Czech and I have never heard about this neither. I am deeply touched by this video because the girl from the story of two engaged young people had the same family name as I do. Have to start my own research. I feel shaken by this whole story. Thank you for sharing!!!
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Radek and her father was from Prague. He immigrated to Chicago in the late 1800s where my grandmother was born. This story now has me wondering about the Czech citizens who died on the ship.
I came here thinking the gore must be bad if this video was flagged. It wasn't, we were shown what needed to be shown of the disaster, no self indulgent graphics or jokes, just facts about what happened and the people involved. Shame on RU-vid for flagging this, this video is masterful.
I wasn’t expecting to see this today. One of your other videos kinda randomly popped into my feed today and I found this upon checking out your channel. This hit home - literally. I grew up right near Cicero; several members of my family - including my grandfather and great grandfather - worked at Western Electric for decades. I played grade school sports against Częstochowa (it’s still there). So I’ve been aware of the Eastland but a shocking number of Chicagoans aren’t. Thank you for telling this story brilliantly. Extremely well done.
Fabulously educational. As a British person I wouldn't ever come across this kind of thing normally so very happy to come across and learn more about it!
Caitlin this documentary was excellent. You told the story of the Eastland so respectfully and you clearly did your research. I had never heard about this disaster before and can't fathom why. What I also can't fathom is why RU-vid has such an issue with this documentary. I can't see anything about it at all that was the least bit contentious. I hope you don't allow their views to discourage you from producing documentaries like this in the future. Well done.
This is one of the most educational productions I've seen on RU-vid- especially since I've studied a lot of history, but NEVER heard of the Eastland. Here's to the survivors of this disaster, and rest in peace to those who have long since died. How do you prevent the showing of a documentary like this? Good, good, good work Ms Mortician.
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@@debbylou5729 HHHolmes, the Chicago Fire are well known, as are some other disasters. But many are lost to history that’s why it’s important we keep these stories alive to keep their lessons from being forgotten
