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The Forgotten History of Home Video 

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@turtlecatpurrz
@turtlecatpurrz 3 года назад
Whelp... you sir have just joined LGR, TechMoan, Technology Connections, and 8-bit guy as some of my favorite RU-vid channels... thanks!
@HzH2O
@HzH2O 3 года назад
i follow them all❤😊
@snithereens
@snithereens 2 года назад
Me too! 😜
@KrisDouglas
@KrisDouglas 2 года назад
Check out Nostalgia Nerd as well, his documentaries are excellent
@turtlecatpurrz
@turtlecatpurrz 2 года назад
@@KrisDouglas thanks for the suggestion will do!
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc 2 года назад
he sure has. the effort put into these vids is astounding
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
Thank you to everyone who's commented, I really appreciate the response! I wanted to mention that I have not yet completed the subtitling for this video because I've been working on it for so long that looking at it makes me sick; as soon as I can stomach it I'll get proper CC in place.
@Gloworm17
@Gloworm17 3 года назад
As someone who does have harder time hearing certain sounds, I certainly do appreciate proper CC. However you speak clearly enough that the auto-gen had no trouble I seen understanding you! While no substitute to proper CC, the auto-gen certainly provided to get me through the video with no issue.
@crazEgamer201
@crazEgamer201 3 года назад
Adding my comment to feed the almighty algorithm! This video is great, keep up the good work friend, you've earned a sub.
@johnnymnemonic5413
@johnnymnemonic5413 3 года назад
Hey man, this is a GREAT documentary and you are doing a fantastic and really important job of preserving the history. If you want some insight into 70's media (and the reasons for distrust in them) I can really recommend you "Manufacturing Consent" by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky.
@softchassis
@softchassis 3 года назад
The total gap in communal knowledge about the EIAJ plug is *mindblowing*
@StevenBradford
@StevenBradford 3 года назад
As an old dude who used eiaj VTRs and EIAJ connectors when they were new, i really appreciate your fresh enthusiasm for these topics . I never really thought about how people today are unaware of these gaps, because i used all of these cameras and recorders, but you’re absolutely right ht!
@benullom2301
@benullom2301 3 года назад
Yes when you start breaking it down and realizing initially it took two different devices, plus your wires, the first the camera just to capture the signal and a separate device with your storage tape. Some of those first portable units were only that by name, since you literally had to have a place to set some of it down and even plug it in, because it was not truly mobile, I think that's where the term remote location started being used. It's interesting to see how far the technology has come. Imagine if he had covered the old large reel to reel systems used in professional movie making as well, I think some of the very first were 1920s or earlier. (essentially the same technology seen miniaturized in the very first home video recording systems).
@genius1a
@genius1a 3 года назад
@@benullom2301 You forget about the basic point: Portable meant you could take recordings out on the field, without a generator and a car to give you power and machinery. Of course you could make that before, using a film camera. But that included a constant changing of incredibly expensive to develop reels, waiting for development and time consuming cutting afterwards. So having a portable Video Tape recorder was huge! Of course it was lame, compared to the following camcorders. But as such, we will be loughed at in a decade, with our constant power plug hungry and sunlight shy smartphones that cost a fortune. Remember, there was a time we had portable phones that had a battery that lasted for 2 Weeks. What if a future smartphone generation can do that, including constant use. What will our current 1000 Dollar smartphone be worth then?
@benullom2301
@benullom2301 3 года назад
@@genius1a touching on the two week battery life. That was back before we even had smartphones and a lot of phones were Nokia, I don't even think they exist anymore, at least I don't see them. Lithium ion does have more capacity but the phones just eat up power, it's surprising they last as long as they do. The screen is the big culprit it takes a lot of the battery power to light it.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
@@genius1a Hey, plenty of good budget phones have 5000-6000 mAh batteries! Not everyone wants some $1000 flagship that allocates more priority to performance or features than a battery. [It seems to be increasingly hard to find a budget phone with optical image stabilisation on the camera though. :(]
@joejarvis2497
@joejarvis2497 8 месяцев назад
Same I didn’t know that people were unaware of EIAJ and video camera’s of this era. It’s really not a big deal and saying nobody knows about this or remember it was hyperbolic by this channels creator.
@SeadogDriftwood
@SeadogDriftwood 3 года назад
That transition music and blue screen with flying text really does lend this the feel of one of those classic 80s/early 90s documentaries. I applaud your research on the topic, as well as the passion and humour in your narration. I hope you keep producing content like this: it deserves to become required watching in college and university classes on the subject.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
thank you so much! wow this is such a compliment
@benullom2301
@benullom2301 3 года назад
Crap another blue screen, damn you Windows 95...
@JamieEC96
@JamieEC96 3 года назад
@@CathodeRayDude where did you get this music? Im sure I recognise it from somewhere and it's driving me mad
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
@@JamieEC96 it's from a xerox training tape
@Nathan219
@Nathan219 3 года назад
@@CathodeRayDude it made me think of the laserdiscs we used to watch in my middle and high school classes 😂
@TheQuickSlash
@TheQuickSlash 3 года назад
This better get blessed by the algorithm
@GeoffreyGore
@GeoffreyGore 3 года назад
Better, kinda, the channel has been blessed by Technology Connections.
@Left-Earth
@Left-Earth 3 года назад
Spread the good news ! 👍✨
@F-Man
@F-Man 3 года назад
It’s been blessed - by Technology Connections! 😁
@sonarun
@sonarun 3 года назад
It did. For me at least. Don’t worry. :)
@emagotis
@emagotis 3 года назад
A blast to hear from this guy!
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 3 года назад
LOL, I am OLD. When he was first showed the Camcorders, I thought "Those are camcorders, NOT video cameras. A camcorder is a video CAMera WITH a built in reCORDER." - And then he went on to explain, LOL. PS Your web cam is a "modern" example of a "video camera" -sans recorder.
@PureFalcon1
@PureFalcon1 3 года назад
it feels like every single advertisement before like, 1995 was just some variation on "ey have you guys seen these broads, amirite fellas?"
@fluffycritter
@fluffycritter 3 года назад
The instant you showed the camera and said that nobody would know what it was made me feel very old, as I definitely used that exact camera as a teenager and had not, in fact, forgotten about the original split camera-recorder systems that camcorders were an improvement over.
@S7EVE_P
@S7EVE_P 2 года назад
There’s a guy on RU-vid who seemed to record alot of his life starting in the 1980s when he was about 14 and for about 20 years after. Him and his friends on BMX bikes, later his cars and parties etc. I love watching these things and seeing how life was all thanks to these cameras
@ZGGuesswho
@ZGGuesswho 3 года назад
this video is dry but you keep it in your mouth a while and it melts
@arantes6
@arantes6 3 года назад
This is Technology Connexions-level quality. And yeah, it's high praise.
@fisqual
@fisqual 3 года назад
At least... I can't believe I only found this channel last week.
@SirRobertDole2
@SirRobertDole2 3 года назад
@@fisqual the algorithm decided it was time
@locke103
@locke103 3 года назад
ah, a fellow fan of alec. i see you are a man of culture as well.
@bchoward0000
@bchoward0000 3 года назад
@@fisqual Agree!
@PassengerPigeonsLE
@PassengerPigeonsLE 3 года назад
I picked up an old camera like that at a garage sale, has the same EIAJ connector, and I later picked up a box to power it and convert it to RCA. Never really looked into the connector, never knew how obscure but universal it is!
@turtle_soda
@turtle_soda 3 года назад
I love this. It went from a history lesson on tape to making me want to take down “the man”.
@Leo9ine
@Leo9ine 3 года назад
This is seriously one of my all time favorite video essays. So much history that never made it into the "mainstream" of youtube tech retrospectives. Thank you for this, I never knew how much I needed to have those gaps filled.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
And thank you for watching!
@RedMeansRecording
@RedMeansRecording 3 года назад
Ok but that intro tag is fucking rad also the production quality on this is absolutely wild
@JesseDEngland
@JesseDEngland 3 года назад
Thank you for this. If you're curious, the short film "VTR St-Jacques" documents an early activist exploration of the social possibilities of portable video equipment (specifically those Sony CV-2000s and Video Rovers.) It was produced by the National Film Board of Canada in 1969 and can be found on their website to view for free, if you wish.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
wow, thank you! i'll check this out!
@Oniontpf
@Oniontpf 3 года назад
Aesthetically perfect blue gradient and public school synth. Now I know why my parents basement has plastic tubs of 8mm reel, a Sony VHS camera, and how we got from one to the other.
@forestaeon
@forestaeon 3 года назад
That JVC commercial at 19:54 is a big yikes. Great work! I'd definitely watch any follow up rabbit hole you jumped down around this, or likely any other subject
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
subscribe if you haven't and keep an eye out! at a minimum i'll be doing videos eventually about my army of old tube based cameras!
@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire 3 года назад
No that’s awesome, come on. It was the 80s, dude.
@TetsuDeinonychus
@TetsuDeinonychus 3 года назад
@@brantisonfire The guy's being a creep, but that's the joke. He just ends up with video of bikini girls telling him to buzz-off.
@trinitron384
@trinitron384 3 года назад
As an A/V enthusiast, this video is an absolute blessing! Amazing work!
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
thank you! I'm here for my fellow Enthusiasts
@AntiPseudo
@AntiPseudo 3 года назад
I'm impressed how every since video I've seen of yours so far has been touching on a topic I thought I knew a lot about, and still manages to drag me through a rabbit hole of history that I didn't even know existed!
@FunkyKong
@FunkyKong 3 года назад
Great video. It might be good to include "EIAJ connector" or similar in your description or even title just to help with those searching about it in the future!
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
you're right, this reminds me that I completely forgot to create any keywords! whoops! thank you!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 3 года назад
Well, I don’t think it’d be wise to try and establish “EIAJ connector” to refer to the 10-pin camera connector, because “EIAJ connector” is already firmly established as the term for the EIAJ-defined system of DC barrel plugs. (It not only defines the plug dimensions, but also pairs each size with a specific voltage range, so that devices don’t get damaged by overvoltage.) It seems that “10-pin camera connector” and the like is the most common term, but if it does have an official name, it’s not easy to find.
@tvamsterdamonline
@tvamsterdamonline 2 года назад
Sony introduced a 14 pin connector, (HVC3000), to plug it into a VHS portable (with the J10 plug) you needed an adapter (this was in 1981).
@DJAllOut
@DJAllOut 3 года назад
Just stumbled on your channel, great stuff! I'd love to see more like this, where you dive into the details of forgotten tech history. Since the 90s, I've been fascinated by analog TV descramblers for cable and satellite, and it seems no one has done a full video on how they work and how it started. It would be awesome if you did something like that.
@purplegill10
@purplegill10 3 года назад
I'm genuinely shocked that this has only 6k views. That's an absolute _travesty_ for the quality this brings. I've sent this to a few of my tech chats to hopefully get this more traction. Hopefully you'll get your break soon enough.
@olddisneylandtickets
@olddisneylandtickets 3 года назад
This video was outstanding! I feel like I just visited the best Home Video Museum ever - Thank You for all the hard work and research, wow!
@quieky
@quieky 3 года назад
Watching this video makes me realize how fortunate I was to come across a working Sony AVC-3400 with it's portable recorder 10 years ago. When I turned it on for the first time I was hooked on how the quality of the image looked and enjoyed its limited quality atheistic. Thank-you for putting together this history and it was really cool to see how the device that I have fits into it!
@ChristianKoehler77
@ChristianKoehler77 3 года назад
Please don't forget the system called "VCR" released by Philips and Grundig in 71/72. It used cassettes, offered full frame rate, full resolution, color and even stereo. Quality was like VHS. It was aimed at consumers and it had some commercial success. Video cassettes for consumers did not start with beta. There were portable machines and there was even editing equipment that allowed editing with single frame precision. It was only released in Europe and Africa, PAL only. Tech history tends to forget things not sold in the USA.
@lev3k
@lev3k 3 года назад
I should note that I became a Patreon supporter based on this video. I know this can't happen every time, but I appreciate the piece at the end discussing what people actually tried to do with this tech.
@natethefighter
@natethefighter 3 года назад
I've been curious about those early home-friendly open reel video machines. Thank you for FINALLY putting them in some sort of historical context!
@DJignyte
@DJignyte 3 года назад
I want you to stay motivated. I see your videos as being like Technology Connections or Techmoan, but with your own unique style and look, which I hope you continue to refine. The first video of yours I came across, I enjoyed - and it was surprising to see that you only had ~8k subs given the level of information and research that went into it, as well as the production quality. I'm sure that if you keep it up, you'll be as well known as the aforementioned. Keep it up, mate. You're doing beautifully!
@jojib7621
@jojib7621 3 года назад
Thank you for this video a few years ago i worked in my high school theatre and there was a 10 pin in the tech booth that nobody knew what it was for (this theatre was built in the mid 70s) and now i realize how cutting edge that mustve been to have wired in video capability with the recorder being in the booth and the camera being wherever the director wanted considering the flexibility of the overhead wiring network. I'm now the only one who knows what that connector was for
@kewlkiddekottle
@kewlkiddekottle 3 года назад
What a video! The way you have demonstrated the mass forgetting of such a ubiquitous device (the "half-inch") and related technology is certainly something I am going to keep thinking about as I continue to learn about all the many things we keep forgetting.
@Wolf359HeavyIndustries
@Wolf359HeavyIndustries 3 года назад
When I was a little kid and first heard the word I thought it was "camquarter" because they were about a quarter size of the professional cameras at the time. Then I saw it spelled out.
@StevenBradford
@StevenBradford 3 года назад
There was an attempt by Bosch to sell a news camera called the QuarterCam. It used quarter inch tapes. The prototypes were tested by ABC at the 1984 Olympics but Betacam had already established an unbeatable lock on the broadcast camcorder market for another 12 years.
@christopherfairfax64
@christopherfairfax64 3 года назад
I watch one youtube video a year and I'm really glad it was this one, great work!! I am always glad to watch your latest documentary about technology I've never heard of
@trueilarim
@trueilarim 3 года назад
Wow, I was amazed to see so few subscribers since this felt like content produced in 500k subs channel. Subbed
@hunterdawson7718
@hunterdawson7718 3 года назад
This channel is criminally underrated, your content is top tier man
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 3 года назад
I am old enough to have witnessed the advent of home VTRs firsthand, so this video was quite nostalgic. 😁
@mattsword41
@mattsword41 3 года назад
Love how densely packed this video is and the pace maintained throughout. Never gets dull or waffley!
@sonarun
@sonarun 3 года назад
Seriously though, you should become RU-vid famous and rich because you are producing incredible content. Subscribed.
@BravoCharleses
@BravoCharleses 8 месяцев назад
This is my favorite video on RU-vid. Thank you, Gravis, for making it.
@brreeaad
@brreeaad 3 года назад
This is honestly astonishing, everything about this video is so damn good.
@douglashero3261
@douglashero3261 2 года назад
I just found your channel here on RU-vid and have been power watching dozens of you programs for 2 or 3 days now. My gosh my man, so good. You're just great -- keep it up!
@futuremutant
@futuremutant 3 года назад
Your narration and the general structure of this is Aces man! Really enjoyable.
@adityasanthanam1945
@adityasanthanam1945 3 года назад
Thank you for this amazing documentary. It was wonderful and provided little-known information that is fascinating and interesting. Now I feel like I should try filming on one of those cameras.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
they're great fun to collect, lots of them used! thank you for watchign!
@NiemandKatzchen
@NiemandKatzchen 3 года назад
This is it! This is great! Thanks for collating all of this information into one place. "Typical" in that title provides a lot of tension. Also, excellent points about how home film vs home video were recorded.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
let me tell you , in re: "typical", i had to back off my verbiage like 4 times to make sure i wasn't inadvertently insulting anyone. the original script was basically me going "everyone just lies about all this!" when that isn't true at all!! but yeah, "typical" is carrying a LOT of weight here, and I much prefer it as implicit rather than an explicit callout, heh. thanks for watching!
@fevengr9245
@fevengr9245 3 года назад
Good information! Another company involved in home video recording in the early 70s was Cartrivision in San Jose, CA. Their machines used ½” video tape in a stacked reel cartridge format and recorded in full color using a skip field recording technique. The machines were too expensive and not packaged or marketed well (along with a host of other problems) and the company went bankrupt. A lot of unsold machines (along with a black & white camera AND microphone) were sold in the mid 70s for dirt cheap. I got one then and still have it. After a few years of use it sat idle for about 40 years. I replaced a belt and did some other minor repairs and got it working again.
@TheKingScrod
@TheKingScrod 3 года назад
I'd be very interested in talking to you about your CV player, especially if it does still work.
@ecnepsnaiold
@ecnepsnaiold 3 года назад
Good gravy, that JVC advertisement... Great video!
@GataZGinkgo
@GataZGinkgo 3 года назад
so well done! big thanks for crediting all of your sources, this is a goldmine of research that was as entertaining as it was intensely interesting to watch! also gotta appreciate the network shoutout, one of my favorite movies.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@timrb
@timrb 3 года назад
I grew up with my grandfather having a camcorder. I want to say it was a National branded VCR that had these great big NiCad or sealed lead acid batteries that slotted in the front. It had a faux leather over the shoulder case that held the VCR, with a clear vinyl window so you could see the buttons and protect it from the elements. He always had the neatest gadgets.
@oldpolishguy253
@oldpolishguy253 3 года назад
Geez my grandfather had a Brownie box camera...
@RabbitEarsCh
@RabbitEarsCh 3 года назад
This video is an absolute blessing and I had no idea about almost any of the camcorder history, as my family was mostly involved in production broadcasting so I only really knew the professional side until my uncle showed up with his fancy VHS camcorder many years later. Very well put together and very worth it. However, I have one thing to add to the timeline, and I don't fault you for not including it as I only found out about it through a series of strange coincidences. The first home video cassette format, i.e. something actually aimed at consumers and not U-matic, was made by an American company, the format called Cartrivision, released in 1972. This system allowed not only for timeshifting on a cassette-based system, but also allowed for home movie recording (provided it happened within your home, as you needed to plug the camera into the unit). The problem, and why you've never heard of it, is that it was only sold integrated into certain television sets, which were really expensive, and most of the tapes were rentals with a "rental-only" switch on them, a historical predecessor of the self-erasing DVDs the MPAA tried to push for in the early 2000s. I personally found out about it via the fact that the only taping of the last time the New York Knicks won the championship was on a home-recorded Cartrivision tape, as the broadcast videotape had turned to mush. Here's a source on the Knicks: www.creativecontentwire.com/duart-relies-on-nucoda-to-get-lost-and-found/ And here's videolabguy's transfers of original Cartrivision material, including a video "manual" for the device: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bClJ12fHl5A.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pXEiJ1e6Iqk.html His website is quite informative on the development of the device as well: www.labguysworld.com/Museum017.htm (his site is also full of references to some of the VTRs you noted!) On a final note - really, U-matic came out in 1969? My dad had some archive videotape from a live performance that went on TV in 1984 that was recorded on U-Matic, and a couple other U-Matic broadcast tapes from that time...that's quite a lifetime for that technology; they were still using it very actively for archive work in Venezuelan TV through the 80s.
@burnerwolf4401
@burnerwolf4401 3 года назад
thank you for this! lately i've been interested in learning about home videos, and technology from when i grew up/even before me. this was very cool.
@brhfl2812
@brhfl2812 3 года назад
Wonderfully comprehensive history. Quite a bit of this was familiar to me via working with broadcast equipment and rummaging through miscellaneous electronic artifacts at amateur radio festivals, but I've never seen such a thorough & comprehensive retrospective. Bizarre to me that the EIAJWTF cable didn't even get a seat at the Wikipedia table, and the preservationist in me continues to wonder what obsolete tech knowledge is still a gap in this internet that we tend to think Has It All.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
the internet does not have all the answers! in fact, it almost DENIES you the answers! when you try to search for this stuff, google tends to prefer results about newer, more popular stuff, so it implicitly, unintentionally erases this history. if people were to spread this knowledge around, google et al would sprinkle in a few more results about older tech!
@kerzwhile
@kerzwhile 3 года назад
This is historical internet Gold!! Great work!
@jupo42
@jupo42 2 года назад
My dad started an editing studio out of our house in 1990, when I was 10, so I grew up around prosumer grade equipment... Hi-8 camcorders, big SVHS and 3/4"SP decks, Toaster/Flyer, and so on... but it blew my mind when I saw corporate video footage being recorded circa 1995 at my mom's workplace with a portapak-style betacam setup. Even that late in the game, footage was still being captured with discrete video cameras and battery-powered VTRs. Any time since that I've seen equipment like this, I always assumed it was high end studio gear, so It's remarkable that it was a consumer-oriented technology that far back. Thanks for presenting this history of it here.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 3 года назад
22:30 Ad for the Sears C131. A peeve of mine: When discussing home movie cameras: People who call 8mm or 16mm FILM cameras "video cameras" or "camcorders".(not uncommon on Craigslist and eBay, LOL!) UGHH. "Video" is an ELECTRONIC form of motion picture. Film cameras do NOT make "video". While it IS perfectly OK to call a film camera or an analog (or digital) video camera or camcorder a "movie" camera, (as "movie" is slang for "motion picture") it's NOT ok to call a film camera a video camera.
@hxdmain
@hxdmain 3 года назад
my parents have been recording weddings since the 70's. They had a recorder, or a battery pack and audio set up, in a messenger bag well into the early 00's. Nice to learn about the predecessors.
@schmatzler
@schmatzler 3 года назад
That was really enjoyable. Very good production value, too! You deserve way more subs! :)
@williamwilliam4907
@williamwilliam4907 3 года назад
Yet another RU-vidr that deserves at least two orders of magnitude more attention
@LowellMorgan
@LowellMorgan 3 года назад
It’s like you’ve discovered a lost civilization
@jimmyguy428
@jimmyguy428 2 года назад
I'm re-watching this again in January 2022. Your videos are always great quality, and keeps me glued to the monitor the whole time. Please keep up the good work! Your channel is vastly underrated!
@AuntBibby
@AuntBibby 3 года назад
love seeing those acid-inspired diagrams. im sure they seemed at the time like they needed to be communicated to others!!! reminds me of the mspaint scribbles in jordan peterson’s “maps of meaning” LOL
@tombuck
@tombuck 3 года назад
This is unreal. Thanks for putting all the work into it!
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 3 года назад
"Great sound too~" Keep it in your pants mate.
@SnoopJeDi
@SnoopJeDi 2 года назад
Thank you for teaching me about the history of home video (and a whole bunch of other stuff)! This is so wonderfully produced, the amount of effort and love that went into it is palpable.
@gammaboost
@gammaboost 3 года назад
Kind of dissapointed that it was all from a North American perspective, no V2000 and "VCR" formats, but the video was still very informative.
@casbrin9373
@casbrin9373 3 года назад
I'm glad you released this against the odds.
@altastral
@altastral 3 года назад
anything else? any other,, details? really though, great story, thanks for telling it!
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
ANYTHING ELSE??? ANY OTHER < < < DETAILS ?
@ospididious
@ospididious 2 года назад
Thanks for filling in the gaps that most had forgotten. I, being in my middle aged times, knew about a lot of this but even I learned something today. Keep up the great work.
@Jasonliggett69
@Jasonliggett69 3 года назад
You’ve got a great thing going! I love the nostalgia and forgotten information. From one creative to another, don’t be afraid to venture out of your comfort zone, I believe you have real knack for informative content and could make interesting works on anything your interested in. Way to go!!
@_ata_3
@_ata_3 Год назад
The conclusions were great, thank you. You are not only a consumer electronic historian but a good media culture commentator as well.
@tylerzerbe6861
@tylerzerbe6861 3 года назад
I had one of those rover cams with the goofy plug back in the late 80s/early 90s. It had a power brick/some kind of signal processor. Never got ahold of the tape/recorder unit for it as i picked it up at a yardsale. I managed to adapt it to my little black and white tv and i could see a live feed of whatever the camera saw on my tv. My buddy managed to find another one in his grandparents' attic but again no recorder. We ended up stringing a bunch of coax cables together with barrel connecters from radioshack to connect the feed from my camera to the tv in his room and vice versa.....strung the cables out my window, thru a tree, and into his window. Viola video conferencing. ....then our parents got pissed off that we'd swiped every unused coax cable from both our houses to create what they thought would be a nice lightning rod and made us take the whole thing down. Still, 12 year old me thought this was the raddest thing ever. The picture quality sucked, but man, we thought we were the jetsons.
@timrb
@timrb 3 года назад
Finally got time to watch the whole thing. Subscribed and hit the bell. Lots of interesting stuff in here. Thanks for making this!
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
Thank you for subscribing!!!
@benedwards1047
@benedwards1047 3 года назад
Great video - I really do appreciate all the work that you must have put into editing this - not to mention the research - top notch! It just shows that great TV programs can be made completely independently. I have a few 80s JVC cameras, also really into the Panasonic switchers - its a great hobby as stuff can picked up so cheap on ebay still. Keep it up!
@tasmanjones84
@tasmanjones84 3 года назад
Dude, great work on filling in those gaps, any info from the 60's on video tech is largly unsaid or forgotten, thank you.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
thank you for *appreciating* it!
@IsmaelIszlonn
@IsmaelIszlonn 3 года назад
I'm so glad I found your channel. Its exactly the type of content I like and usually consume but with loads of info I've never seen before. Thank you for putting so much effort into this videos.
@Meguminimal
@Meguminimal 3 года назад
This was an excellent timeline that produced a fair bit of fodder for chatter for me and my friends, and it's information I can keep tucked in my pocket as I dig through the myriad bygone junk my father has collected over his long life. Still, excellent framing of the video and good job keeping it interesting and moving forward throughout the whole length. I really do miss this era, when technology was something you could see and touch.
@meowcula
@meowcula 3 года назад
Excellent episode. I just discovered your channel and you're making some great content. I'm a big fan of both Techmoan and Technology Connections, and you distinguish yourself with this wonderful, original research and your own unique style and humour. It's a pleasure to share your fascination with old tech. Love it.
@The_Future_isnt_so_Bright
@The_Future_isnt_so_Bright 3 года назад
Your transition screen music gives me PTSD from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on NES. The beginning of the music from the underwater section of the Dam, that transition music must have been what inspired that music. Awesome production quality by the way.
@zonoscopePictures
@zonoscopePictures 3 года назад
Fantastic review. Love all these old machines. My favorite part is the ad, you can't beat "Buzz off, buster!" thanks for including that gem
@GameCrazed45
@GameCrazed45 3 года назад
This channel is a hidden gem and I will share and promote your content as it deserves more eyes on it.
@k2rcb
@k2rcb 3 года назад
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to document this. We have a video transfer business (digitizing old tapes) and had a few of those early Sony 1/2" VTRs - never had a lot of demand - maybe once every few months someone would inquire about that format. Umatic was definitely an industrial & commercial format but we do get an occasional early adopter who spent a ton of money to film his family on Umatic. The 10 pin camera connector is cool - had one on our first VHS VCR in the early 80's - I remember my dad would rent a camera from the local video rental store for the weekend if we were having a party. I've gotten involved in amateur radio the past few years and I'm fascinated by what hams were doing in the 1980s and 1990s with fast-scan TV. I'd like to eventually set up a station with some of the old equipment we've acquired over the years.
@ryandary
@ryandary 3 года назад
That was an insanely great rundown of video history, and I loved that revolutionaries got some coverage, too.
@asprinwizard
@asprinwizard 3 года назад
Agree with you re the EIAJ plug. It's a godsend. I have tons of old cameras I wanted to use but had no recording device for them (plus I didn't want to carry around even a VHS-C VTR). So I developed a device that would record the signal from these camera to SD card, and still allow the use of the record button to trigger the recording. It works with all the cameras that have the ten pin connector, and I've build it so that I can use a variety of sd recording devices with it. I'm surprised there wasn't a device like this already (or maybe I'm not based on the scarcity of info in the internet), but there must be tons of enthusiants around looking for a way to record these cameras without bulkiness and unreliability of tape recorders. I'm curious about that switch unit too. Will have a hunt for it on eBay. I presume the switcher doesn't provide smooth cuts between sources? That would presumably require all cameras to be synched but I'd be interested to hear more. Thanks for this video. I learned a lot.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 2 года назад
Can I just say I love the presentation of this, you made me feel like I was back in school watching an educational VHS with those title cards and synthy music.
@leifclaesson2470
@leifclaesson2470 3 года назад
About halfway through I remembered that there's a subscribe button, pushed it, and kept watching. This was excellent! Nice work.
@coreynorlander5596
@coreynorlander5596 3 года назад
So glad to finally see you having some success. I sent technology connections a tweet about this video and it looks like it worked! Also love the PUP shirt! Once things settle down you should come up to Vancouver BC for one of their shows.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
Thanks! Think he followed me on twitter after my last video, but I appreciate the effort. I'd love to see PUP again, I missed their last couple Seattle shows.
@jarekjagielski366
@jarekjagielski366 3 года назад
Fantastic video, thanks for making it! Nice to see yet another person on YT sharing the interest in vintage video equipment. I knew most of the stuff you mentioned, but it was still a pleasure to watch. Never heard of the Videofreex - definitely a topic I have to dive into.
@bunk-o2495
@bunk-o2495 3 года назад
I love how in depth this all goes. I found it fascinating! thanks for your hard work!
@umangmalik
@umangmalik 3 года назад
An excellent video. I especially liked the part about the tech-counterculture group making the pirate TV station. Keep it up!
@VideoCityLimits
@VideoCityLimits 3 года назад
I'm so glad you took the time and care to do this, I had always had this kind of nebulous idea that there had been home movie cameras with separate recorders, but I had never followed up on, or imagined, that the market was so competitive and innovative up until the first camcorders.
@CathodeRayDude
@CathodeRayDude 3 года назад
Thank you! Yeah, this is something that I think we could arrive on by thinking real hard about it, but nobody ever seems to (including myself) until it's right in front of them. I felt I had a duty to help!
@Decimalcoder
@Decimalcoder 3 года назад
I appreciate that you made this short documentary. I was in a frendly dispute with a buddy of mine on this very topic. terns out I was right we knew what the 1/2 in plug was but we couldn't find any good info on what it was called. Thank you and keep up the good work
@SixArmedSweater
@SixArmedSweater 2 года назад
You have opened my eyes to entire new realms of history here. Spectacularly done!
@BlakeNaftel
@BlakeNaftel Год назад
It's great you allocated a section for the 10-pin [14-pin for prosumer/broadcast] EIAJ camera/recorder era, of which ran up into the early 1990's with the Panasonic AG-6400 VHS, AG-7400 SVHS, and Sony BetacamSP portable VCR decks. In the mid-late 1980's it was common for people to use a mix of gear, from Super 8mm film, two-piece camera/vcr combos and solid-state camcorders until technology began to drop in both price and size when camcorders really became popular on a mass scale. I recall seeing portable video camera/recorder combos in use at school plays, soccer games, etc from childhood, but it wasn't until the mid-1990's when Internet forums, websites and eBay arrived that I began purchasing/backtracking through tech to learn more about the functionality of such equipment. Glad to see the trend and interest in old tech continue. Nice documentary on the faded formats of time!
@Paraphen
@Paraphen 3 года назад
Been following you on twitter for a while and I've always enjoyed when you'd post about some weird thing you noticed, dug into and found all these unseen details of, so it's great to see that but with a little more polish. Hope you'll have time to make something like this again
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 3 года назад
Around 1980-1981 I recall a family acquaintance that had the portable Betamax system consisting of camera, shoulder carried recorder and a same size electronics box that handled some signal conversion stuff (maybe tuner/modulator for TV hookup and time shifting). Oh, and this is in Europe, with no commercial networks needing the 2/3 hour timezone shift used in the US, anything broadcast Europe-wide was actual live events through the Eurovision collaboration network, such as their song contest. Their logo was a stylized microwave relay network like the one assembled on each occasion from state broadcast network infrastructure. Oh, and at school, educational videos were sometimes played from the schools movable U-matic machine getting rolled into class with a TV on top, they had an identical rig with VHS, all under lock and key.
@StevenStaton
@StevenStaton 3 года назад
Fascinating! Enjoy the reference to Tech Connections. Kudos for finding the early video news advocates. The offbeat uses of technology are often the forgotten starts for later trends and you stitched that together wonderfully.
@karenweiner1857
@karenweiner1857 2 года назад
I think you should feature this video on the front page of your channel. Watching it has helped explain so many things that you mentioned in your more recent videos that I was confused by.
@captorofsin86
@captorofsin86 3 года назад
I have no prior connection or interest in this hobby but coming here after your nintendo broadcast video was recommended to me, this little documentary is fascinating throughout. Thank you for making this!
@LongPeter
@LongPeter 5 месяцев назад
We used to have a JVC separate camera and recorder when I was growing up. The tiny CRT viewfinder blew my mind. My dad took it on a few camping trips in the 80’s. Hard to imagine how he got the battery to last long enough to record four hours of Australian desert vistas. The recorder was our main VHS deck for many years. It didn’t have RCA so probably had an RF output for TV connection.
@jonglass
@jonglass 2 года назад
I think I saw my very first video camera in another of your videos. It was an RCA CC010 with a _heavy_ portable VCR (not VTR, because it was full-sized VHS). It was a great tool, what was called a "pro-sumer" camera. One feature it had was manual controls as well as automatic. And a 10x zoom, which was a fair amount for those days. When I got my camera, portable VCRs were already getting a lot lighter. And something you didn't mention (because it wasn't part of your video) was that they came in two parts. One was the portable part you carried with you, and the other half stayed at home, and remained plugged into your TV, and typically also had the tuner built into it, so you could also use the portable as a home VCR. I'm a bit late to the game, commenting. Sry. I just discovered this channel--and it's amazing!
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