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The Four Color Map Theorem (or colour!?) was a long-standing problem until it was cracked in 1976 using a "new" method... computers!
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@jimthompson3053
@jimthompson3053 7 лет назад
It's not just useful for drawing maps, either: the same principle allows cell towers from interfering with each other, by using four sets of frequencies. Using four sets of frequencies, no adjacent cells have to use the same frequencies.
@jimthompson3053
@jimthompson3053 7 лет назад
er.. prevents, not allows.
@Natalie-cd4mf
@Natalie-cd4mf 7 лет назад
Interesting, never thought of that.
@iycgtptyarvg
@iycgtptyarvg 7 лет назад
Fantastic example of applied math. Personally, I like explaining people how the principle of GPS works (in simple terms with as little actual complicated math as possible).
@a24396
@a24396 7 лет назад
That's such a terrific example! You just blew my mind!
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 7 лет назад
Fester Blats And because real countries can have exclaves and enclaves--regions that are legally part of a country while not being connected to that country by any actual land. Such things violate the premise of the 4 color map theorem (regions are required to be contiguous in the theorem), and allowing them is the same as allowing intersecting edges in the equivalent networks--a map could be made to need as many colors as you arbitrarily want by using such territories
@proxy1035
@proxy1035 6 лет назад
I love how all this started with some guy filling out a map with colors and noticing that he only needed 4
@amaanali9525
@amaanali9525 3 года назад
Some maps ACTUALLY don't work with this
@user-zz3sn8ky7z
@user-zz3sn8ky7z 3 года назад
@@amaanali9525 example?
@amaanali9525
@amaanali9525 3 года назад
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z the ones made by Susan Goldstein.
@user-zz3sn8ky7z
@user-zz3sn8ky7z 3 года назад
@@amaanali9525 that was interesting, thanks for sharing! Although I'm not sure if it counts as a "map"
@amaanali9525
@amaanali9525 3 года назад
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z oh okay your welcome
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 2 года назад
I never thought I would say this of a mathematician, but I don't believe I could ever tire of listening to James Grime. I actually find myself smiling far more often than was likely ever the case back in my school days. Thank you Dr Grime.
@a025822369
@a025822369 4 года назад
omg watched this mindlessly 3 years ago when i was in high school then here i am studying graph theory in college coming back to see how it actually works like an hour before midterm
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 3 года назад
The graph solution is much more complicated than mine... In 2D, the maximum number of nodes that can be connected to each other (each to each) without connectors crossing is 4.
@davidyoung6331
@davidyoung6331 6 лет назад
I recall an issue of Scientific American back in about 1974 (more or less) that had an article that purported to show 7 amazing recent discoveries. One was that the best first move in chess was shown to be h4, another was a logical way to disprove special relativity, another was that Di Vinci invented the toilet and another was that someone came up with a map that required five colors. I can't recall the year of the publication, but I can recall the month. The magazine came out on April first......
@edsanville
@edsanville 5 лет назад
@@error.418 April 1st. Think about it.
@galactica58
@galactica58 5 лет назад
I like this comment.
@willyantowilly7165
@willyantowilly7165 5 лет назад
h4 is the best first move in chess? This has to be a joke.
@XenophonSoulis
@XenophonSoulis 5 лет назад
@@willyantowilly7165 April 1st
@expertoflizardcorrugation3967
@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 5 лет назад
I enjoy stork theory of reproduction papers
@mazingzongdingdong
@mazingzongdingdong 7 лет назад
everytime i take a test i imagine that he's looking over me and kinda guiding my way to success lol
@klaud7311
@klaud7311 3 года назад
Sounds like you envy him more than you admire him.
@solarean
@solarean 3 года назад
@@klaud7311 for me sounds like he just likes the attitude of this guy idk lel
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 2 года назад
Wouldn't that be great. His IQ must be off the charts.
@abidhossain8074
@abidhossain8074 4 года назад
0:04 "It's easy to state" I see what you did there..XD
@ontario2164
@ontario2164 4 года назад
6:03 careful dude you're gonna summon the devil
@capy9846
@capy9846 4 года назад
Michael Darrow Nah I just watch video’s upside down for fun
@dondeestaCarter
@dondeestaCarter 4 года назад
JuliasJulian. Cool!! So "Ontario" reads "JuliasJulian" when upside down? Wouldn't have expected that!!
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver 3 года назад
6:14 Exclaves: am I a joke to you?
@bentleystorlie8073
@bentleystorlie8073 7 лет назад
I learned this in a book called "betcha can't" (which actually has a lot of the problems I've seen on Numberphile). But the story was that the father died and his five sons inherit his land. In the will it says they can divide it up however they want, but each plot needs to be all one piece and must share a border with all four other sons' plots.
@sheilakijawani2526
@sheilakijawani2526 9 месяцев назад
Circular tyre 1 wont work?
@branflakes2600
@branflakes2600 7 лет назад
Yes! James Grime!
@branflakes2600
@branflakes2600 7 лет назад
^^^^^ 9th
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 7 лет назад
He's the absolute best!
@bencouperthwaite6735
@bencouperthwaite6735 7 лет назад
I met him :)
@duck6872
@duck6872 7 лет назад
I am jealous
@bencouperthwaite6735
@bencouperthwaite6735 7 лет назад
Duck He came to my college in January. Top guy!
@iancopple5649
@iancopple5649 5 лет назад
11:06 I'm currently studying Actuarial Science at the University of Illinois (same awesome school as Appel and Haken). You wouldn't think the Four Color Map Theorem would show up in an insurance internship, but I showed this theorem to a few of my coworkers and they made a colorblind-friendly map of the U.S. for me to use in a project. Thank you Numberphile!
@coleabrahams9331
@coleabrahams9331 3 года назад
@Ian Copple OMG!! Actuarial science. I’m 17 and I would also like to study actuarial science as I’m tremendously interested in maths. Please tell me about it. I couldn’t do job shadowing during the school holidays (vacations) due to the coronavirus pandemic, but I would really like to know what it’s all about. People have been telling me that I should study actuarial science, but I don’t really know what it’s about. Please provide me with some idea of how it is like, etc.
@TheOfficialCzex
@TheOfficialCzex 5 лет назад
Enclaves and exclaves can not be considered as the theorem requires *contiguous* regions. The term "map" in the theorem refers to a physical map as opposed to a political map. This could be confusing to grasp after watching this video as they refer to real-world examples as well as abstractions.
@error.418
@error.418 5 лет назад
Yes, this video has a restricted problem space. But it's still interesting to then talk about an extended problem space and consider what the solution is to that new problem space. The four color theorem doesn't work in the new problem space because the country and its disconnected exclave must be the same color. Because you now have two areas that don't share a border that must be the same color, you've added a rule which can require more than four colors.
@error.418
@error.418 5 лет назад
@@carnap355 No, it doesn't work because the country and its disconnected exclave now must be the same color. Because you now have two areas that don't share a border that must be the same color, you've added a rule which can require more than four colors.
@TruthNerds
@TruthNerds 5 лет назад
​@@carnap355 That's not what *exclave* means, you are confusing it with a specific type of *enclave* I guess. Exclave is an *additional* territory politically belonging to one country but completely surrounded by foreign territory. Enclave, on the other hand, is any country territory completely surrounded by another country. The theorem allows for any enclave that is not an exclave, otherwise you'd run into the problem mentioned by Anonymous User. Here are some real-life examples for all cases: US mainland - neither an enclave nor an exclave Vatican city - an enclave (of Italy) that is not an exclave (because it is the sole sovereign territory of this state) Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic - an exclave of Azerbaijan that is not an enclave of any state (i.e. not completely surrounded by any other state). Karki - an Armenian exclave *within* the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic, so it's both an exclave of Armenia *and* an enclave of Azerbaijan. Featured in the movie "exclaveception". ;-) (West Berlin is another. historic, example of an exclave that was also an enclave, because it was an additional territory of the FRG aka West Germany, but was completely surrounded by the GDR aka East Germany.) The latter two would impose additional constraints (i.e. if Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan, or Karki and Armenia, rsp., have to have the same color) and therefore might "break" the four-color-theorem.
@AK-dp8uy
@AK-dp8uy 5 лет назад
What about water? Why is water, the "background color" of a world map, not considered a color that counts?
@Rannos22
@Rannos22 3 года назад
That's a cheap cop out given the first examples were political maps
@thepip3599
@thepip3599 6 лет назад
What if it was in 3d? like, with colouring 3d spaces instead of 2d shapes. Maybe filling hollow glass chambers with coloured liquid. How many colours would that take? Would there be a limit?
@thepip3599
@thepip3599 6 лет назад
On second thought, I've realized it would almost certainly not have a limit. In 3D, you can have tunnels going through stuff to other stuff. That doesn't really work in 2D.
@MikeRosoftJH
@MikeRosoftJH 6 лет назад
It's even worse: even when we require that each region of space is a rectangular box and the boxes are orthogonally arranged, it's still possible to create a division which requires arbitrarily many colors.
@sergey1519
@sergey1519 6 лет назад
no because you just can take map, then get line going from first country to every other country at next z(if map is at level(z coordinate) 0 just connect first country to every else country on level 1) then connect second map to any other at level 2, then connect third map to any other at level 3 etc. You have infinite plane so you can connect every country to any other country if your lines are are small enough(so you can just say that they are have width of 0). I hope you understanded what i writen there cuz i don't really know this language.
@ethendixon4612
@ethendixon4612 5 лет назад
I'm gonna assume it would be 8. I can't back this up . . . but I think it's related by 2^dimension.
@greysquirrel404
@greysquirrel404 5 лет назад
Or in the other direction let's consider the problem in 1d. If you had a series of connected line segments and a line segment had to be a different colour to the one(s) connected to it. How many colours would you need?
@aurelia65536
@aurelia65536 7 лет назад
"Let's try making a map that requires five colors" *second map drawn only has four sections*
@o76923
@o76923 5 лет назад
Technically the space outside counts as a region as well (and can include lines that continue for eternity).
@dancrane3807
@dancrane3807 5 лет назад
ikr
@lilyfm7152
@lilyfm7152 4 года назад
That was drawn to illustrate the network.
@lockjawwas_take3403
@lockjawwas_take3403 4 года назад
Four Color Theorem: Exists Enclaves and Exclaves: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@montanafisher8996
@montanafisher8996 3 года назад
Exclaves and non-contiguous countries might throw a wrench into the cogs, but I think you might just have to shift the colours used to make it work in four
@williamchaney448
@williamchaney448 3 года назад
@@montanafisher8996 But you could certainly conceive of a map rich in exclaves and enclaves such that you'd need more than 4 colors... If a map includes 5 countries, and each country has an enclave in literally every other country, they'd all need to be different colors.
@FreshBeatles
@FreshBeatles 5 лет назад
I love this mans enthusiasm
@zombiedude347
@zombiedude347 7 лет назад
Back in the windows xp days, I'd make images in paint by making one arbitrary continuous path both ends on an edge of the image. The curve would intersect itself at many points, but never intersect itself multiple times at the same point. I found that you could always cover the "map" created using these restrictions with exactly 2 colors.
@tfae
@tfae 5 месяцев назад
I think this is the "even-odd rule" in computer graphics.
@teh1tronner
@teh1tronner 7 лет назад
What really bothers me is that countries exist on a spherical surface, but the four color map theorem only works in a Euclidean space. Theoretically if a country stretched around the planet, planar graphs that include k5 and k3,3 subgraphs become possible.
@vangildermichael1767
@vangildermichael1767 7 лет назад
Awesome point. I hadn't thought on the 3 dimension thing. I like the brain treat. yum.
@ZayulRasco
@ZayulRasco 7 лет назад
/dev/zero You can map a sphere to a 2d surface and preserve the properties we care about regarding the 4 color theorem.
@andreashofmann4556
@andreashofmann4556 7 лет назад
But you lose the looping around bit, which i think is what he's going for?
@rubenras1399
@rubenras1399 7 лет назад
/dev/zero ii
@Korcalius
@Korcalius 7 лет назад
And what if a country has a colony or more? Its technically still the same country.
@XiaoyongWu
@XiaoyongWu 3 года назад
While watching this, I thought at 3:23, you could leave the last quarter circle border unclosed and make a bigger circle around everything. With the existing coloring, it looks like that would need a fifth color. But, after more thinking, it's doable by some shifting on the colors used earlier
@luizazappala3572
@luizazappala3572 2 года назад
Thought the same!
@shivpatel8288
@shivpatel8288 3 года назад
Conjecture: Every video of Numberphile requires extensive recursion.
@p.mil.1147
@p.mil.1147 7 лет назад
14:14 look above the o there are 2 yellows
@brokenwave6125
@brokenwave6125 4 года назад
There are six colors on that "map" so its not really meant to be an accurate example.
@Joe-qm9cp
@Joe-qm9cp 4 года назад
Gasp
@uxleumas
@uxleumas 4 года назад
culd have been pink
@IHaveaPinkBeard
@IHaveaPinkBeard 4 года назад
That's pretty bothersome given the video topic
@janprevratil1015
@janprevratil1015 4 года назад
@@brokenwave6125 I think he wanted to be colored with 4, but he gave up :D
@patrickhodson8715
@patrickhodson8715 7 лет назад
0:16 Dang foreigners colored Michigan two different colors lolol
@ilfedarkfairy
@ilfedarkfairy 5 лет назад
@@yesno1498 that is true, but has nothing to do with the fact that Michigan is to large.
@starwarsman333
@starwarsman333 5 лет назад
but then at 1:47 they have it right XD
@theblackwidower
@theblackwidower 5 лет назад
@@yesno1498 So when factoring in enclaves and exclaves, how many do you need?
@leonhostnik9516
@leonhostnik9516 5 лет назад
@@ilfedarkfairy Take up all complaints with the state of Ohio on that one, regarding the Toledo War
@the_real_ch3
@the_real_ch3 5 лет назад
Yoopers gettin no respect
@Wolfsspinne
@Wolfsspinne 3 года назад
The system doesn't work for exclaves. In an infinitely complex map each country would have infinitely many exclaves, connecting it to each other country. 1) Make a map that has 7 countries, put them wherever you want on your map. 2) For each country create 6 exclaves, being enclaves to each of the other countries. 3) Color the map using only one colors for all territories each country.
@juanignaciolopeztellechea9401
@juanignaciolopeztellechea9401 2 года назад
The theorem only couts CONTIGUOUS countrys.
@LuKaSGLL
@LuKaSGLL Год назад
I thought about that too, when I noticed on every map Greenland and French Guyana were coloured differently than Denmark and France, respectively. But another comment on here asked about three dimensional "maps" and the answers were obviously you could make objects on 3D touch infinitely more than on a 2D plane, and I came to the conclusion that exclaves essentially make the map "3D", since an exclave would basically mean a tunnel outside of the plane is joining two or more objects. This theorem only applies in 2D.
@richarddeese1991
@richarddeese1991 6 лет назад
Really interesting video; great job! I myself spent a lot of 'doodling' time back in the 80s trying to find a counter example. I also don't like the computer proof for the same reason you stated: it doesn't teach us anything but that some result is true. We don't know WHY it's true. But to me it boils down to a topology problem, not a color problem. I state it thus: The greatest number of closed figures which can be drawn on any 2D surface such as a map or globe in such a way that every figure touches every other figure along a side, is four. You'd literally have to put another figure into the third dimension, making it go above or below the 'plane' to connect it to other figures, thus forcing a 5th color. You simply can't do it any other way. That is what makes the 4 color conjecture true... but, of course, that is not a proof in itself. But I can tell you that I'm done doodling with it. I'm satisfied that eventually, someone will prove it with geometry or more likely topology. Rikki Tikki
@AlbySilly
@AlbySilly 7 лет назад
3:40 Aww I was hoping for the Chrome logo
@grantcarrell
@grantcarrell 7 лет назад
Albin9000 I was too.
@ayanshah2621
@ayanshah2621 7 лет назад
I thought it to be a pokemon
@erikplayz8192
@erikplayz8192 7 лет назад
Albin9000 same
@jamesbatley173
@jamesbatley173 6 лет назад
Me, too!
@Robertlavigne1
@Robertlavigne1 7 лет назад
Thanks for the nerd snipe numberphile. Every time I see this theorem stated I always end up taking a stab at finding a weird case to disprove it. Today I was so close to calling a math friend to show him my counter example, before realizing I had a colour wrong.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 7 лет назад
Real maps can require more than four colours, if there are exclaves that need to be coloured the same as the main part of the country.
@martinwood744
@martinwood744 2 года назад
I thought I'd broken this when I first heard of it. I imagined two concentric circles with the inner one being split into quarters using a line going from top to bottom (the whole diameter of the inner circle) and another line going from right to left across the circle(again, the whole diameter), forming a cross. The inner circle then resembles a cake cut into four roughly triangular sectors. My (erroneous) thinking was that all four quadrants of the inner circle touched at the centre and so would require four colours, and then you'd need a fifth one for the outer circle! BUT......although it may look as though the four quarters touch in the middle, they don't. They can't. If two diagonally opposite triangles touch, then they sever the connection between the other two diagonal areas.
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 2 года назад
The problem with this is that not all countries are contiguous, and so enclaves can force a hypothetical map to use more than four colors.
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn Год назад
do you mean exclaves
@tylerbird9301
@tylerbird9301 11 месяцев назад
@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn an enclave is just an exclave of a different country.
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn 11 месяцев назад
@@tylerbird9301 no it's not. an enclave is a country entirely surrounded by a different country
@tylerbird9301
@tylerbird9301 11 месяцев назад
@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn enclave noun a portion of territory within or surrounded by a larger territory whose inhabitants are culturally or ethnically distinct.
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn 11 месяцев назад
@@tylerbird9301 a portion can be 100%
@homopoly
@homopoly 7 лет назад
0:15 Did they just colour Michigan wrong?
@jakec904
@jakec904 7 лет назад
what?
@hjorth3387
@hjorth3387 7 лет назад
The purple and blue state?
@homopoly
@homopoly 7 лет назад
Yeah.
@optimist2301
@optimist2301 7 лет назад
Unchi what?
@lyndonhanzpernites5860
@lyndonhanzpernites5860 7 лет назад
Michigan was filled with two colors. (Being separated by the Great Lakes.)
@douira
@douira 4 года назад
"I don't know why, but he was" seems to be true for a lot of math
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 4 года назад
This is an excellent, clear presentation by Dr. Grime.
@sophieeula
@sophieeula 5 лет назад
i don’t know why i’m watching these math videos at 3 am bc i truly don’t understand them but everyone in the vids seem to so i keep on comin back
@toonoobie
@toonoobie 6 лет назад
I found a map which requires 5 But the comment threads are too small to hold the answer!
@tit-bits6197
@tit-bits6197 5 лет назад
Ghost of Fermat! 😜
@notquitehadouken
@notquitehadouken 4 года назад
images deathshadow images
@commenturthegreat2915
@commenturthegreat2915 4 года назад
Same
@samwarren6008
@samwarren6008 4 года назад
The map at the end of the video...
@RamsesTheFourth
@RamsesTheFourth 4 года назад
I did too actually... but i cant post picture here :)
@malik_alharb
@malik_alharb 7 лет назад
i love how hes always so happy
@ajpdeschenes
@ajpdeschenes 7 лет назад
I love the fact that this was a problem that I loved to do in my school books since the age of 9 maybe, not knowing that it was a well known mathematical problem! Reaching 30... I realise that I had deep questions about many things in science, like the prime numbers sequence, the problem of perception vs. attention in psychology, the philosophical question of time and other type of questions that if I had spend time on it... who knows what I would have found!
@thommunistmanifesto
@thommunistmanifesto 3 года назад
The picture of the map at 1:40 is actually in correct, you can see that both the netherlands and france are colored green but on the island of saint martin they border. The island is split between them both.
@MistahPhone
@MistahPhone Год назад
But here we are talking about mainland Europe
@manioqqqq
@manioqqqq Год назад
1. The islands are (i think) not a part of the countries 2. That is clearly yellow
@thommunistmanifesto
@thommunistmanifesto Год назад
​@@manioqqqq neither france nor the netherlands are yellow, and saint martin is considerd thier territories
@manioqqqq
@manioqqqq Год назад
@@thommunistmanifesto either i am colorblind or you are, but they're clearly yellow. And, in the problem ignore the island border.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 9 месяцев назад
You're allowed to color a country in two separate colors. It's just that each region individually has to be a single color.
@GreRe9
@GreRe9 7 лет назад
Is there a reason why James says "network" instead of "graph"?
@lucashenry2556
@lucashenry2556 7 лет назад
I think it's because he's focusing on the importance of the vertices, not the edges. That's just my guess though. I would have though he'd have called them graphs too because they would all have Euler characteristic 2
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 7 лет назад
Green Red The average person recognizes the word "network".
@1990rockefeller
@1990rockefeller 6 лет назад
gwuaph. Just kidding. He is awesome!
@EMETRL
@EMETRL 6 лет назад
because real life applications of this idea often come in the form of actual networking
@cheesebusiness
@cheesebusiness 6 лет назад
Because he speaks the British language
@azimjaved3243
@azimjaved3243 7 лет назад
"So, Let's talk about the Four Colour Theorem!". James Grime video, After all this time!
@richm6633
@richm6633 5 лет назад
This one took me nearly the whole video to wrap my mind around. Just trouble visualizing. But it just shows how amazing these videos are that before the end they got me there ;)
@user-mt9ux2di6u
@user-mt9ux2di6u 3 года назад
I found a map that needs five colors but it's only in my mind, the map is too big for the observable universe.
@mathtexas968
@mathtexas968 7 лет назад
Congratulations on 2,000,000 subscribers!!!
@tiffanie5012
@tiffanie5012 4 года назад
Thanks for the video this was really interesting, especially about the first case wich has used computer assistance as a proof, and just as a remark the guy in the video seems very passionate that gave more value to the video
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 5 лет назад
11:51 paper shows 1936... Reading it out loud: "one thousand nine hundred and thirty _eight_ ". Eh well, close enough. :-p
@coleabrahams9331
@coleabrahams9331 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣Close enough
@filipman
@filipman 4 года назад
At the end those *yellows touching* in the top right are annoying me
@danielsantos3254
@danielsantos3254 3 года назад
And the single purple section on the left
@damamdragon73
@damamdragon73 4 года назад
Easy to... “state.” *brings up and starts coloring map of US*
@saabrinaadan3110
@saabrinaadan3110 5 лет назад
But what if you have 5 different counties/countries meeting at one point?
@man-qw2xj
@man-qw2xj 5 лет назад
Saabrina Adan points have no area. While a convergence, the fact that the convergence has no area invalidates it.
@o76923
@o76923 5 лет назад
Those 5 countries cannot all share a side with each other one; only a point.
@CalifornianMapping
@CalifornianMapping 5 лет назад
Though such things are possible in the world, here they are simply not considered to be borders.
@zahidhussain251
@zahidhussain251 5 лет назад
Actually this leads to the answer. In whatever way you draw four areas where each one is touching all the three, there is no way you can draw a fifth one which touches all four.
@ProfessorX
@ProfessorX 5 лет назад
Zahid Hussain are you sure? What about a circle with four divisions nested inside a larger circle (like a ring)? Edit: I redact the above. I just learned about enclaves and enclaves.
@earth11116
@earth11116 4 года назад
I always thought of this when looking at maps of me in class. Like "hmmm i wonder if i could force two of the same color to be beside each other with only 4 colors"
@jimmyfitz-etc7031
@jimmyfitz-etc7031 2 года назад
i tried coming up with a counterexample with some very strange shapes and i found that no matter how you shift around the shapes and borders, every door you shut will open another. it reminds me of that impossible puzzle where you have three houses and a source of oil, electricity, and water and you have to try and connect all three sources to each house without interesting pipes
@riccardopratesi7943
@riccardopratesi7943 7 лет назад
What is the least number of different texts for students at an exam, so that two nearby students don't have the same text? Obvious: 4. It's an application of this theorem.
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 5 лет назад
Depends on what you mean by "nearby"... if it were to only apply to orthogonally adjacent, the answer would be 2. :-B
@relaxnation1773
@relaxnation1773 5 лет назад
And if they are in a star formation this is even more wrong. Students don't have borders like counties do, so it is how you decide what their "borders" are.
@DheerajAgarwalD
@DheerajAgarwalD 5 лет назад
@@relaxnation1773 I think the statement holds. It's the same as map coloring. You can fill star formation or any planar formation with less than four colors, so "at most" you'd need 4, no matter how you choose your seating arrangement.
@coling1258
@coling1258 5 лет назад
I know I'm late to this conversation, but it got me thinking. I think it can be put more simply, actually, although mathematicians might not like it as much. Here goes... With all of the parameters already set (contiguous borders and the like), the question becomes, can you: 1. Create a theoretical map that requires 1 color? Yes, duh. 2. Create a map with 2 colors? Yes, you just need 2 touching areas. 3. Create a map with 3 colors? Yes, like a pie cut into 3 slices, each piece touches both of the others, so 3 colors required. 4. Create a map with 4 colors? Yes, take the pie from before and make the center its own area that touches all 3 of the original slices. 5. Create a map with 5 colors? No. Here's why. Imagine 5 squares arranged into a cross or +. One in the middle, and one each on the top, bottom, left, and right. Right now, you only need 2 colors, as the outside squares don't actually touch. So, let the outside shapes bulge a little and touch their neighbors (top now touches left, right, and center, left touches top, bottom, and center, and so on). Now, you need 3 colors. Why not 4? because right now, the shapes on opposite sides of the center square don't touch and can be the same color. Let's try to fix that! Take the top shape now, and stretch it around to touch the bottom shape. Awesome, now we need 4 colors, since the top and bottom cannot share anymore! Now, let's go for 5! Currently, the only shapes still sharing colors are the left and right shapes, so we need to get them to touch. But wait, to get the top and bottom to touch, we had to go around either the left side or right side (we'll say left, but it doesn't matter). The right shape has no way of getting to the left now! Well, what if we cut under the top? Oops, the top and center are not touching anymore! Well, what if we slice through the arm connecting top and bottom? Well, then we're back to where we just were with top and bottom not touching. Feel free to play with it and make the shapes weirder, but you cannot get all 5 shapes to touch every one of the other shapes without breaking a connection that you had previously made. Even if you add a sixth shape wrapping around the outside of the whole mess, it will still be separated from the center square and will be allowed to use that color, unless you break one of your earlier connections (at which point, what have you accomplished?). All of the nightmare with proofs and computers and whatnot may be needed for mathematical certainty, but if you cannot get a mere 5 or 6 shapes to need 5 colors, then adding additional shapes just aggravates the issue of fighting for connections. I tried to keep that whole thing simple enough to sketch along if anyone cannot follow in their head. My apologies, and thank you for coming to my talk.
@ThankNephew
@ThankNephew 4 года назад
As a computer science student currently learning Boolean algebra, de Morgan’s name sends me into a fiery rage
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 года назад
I don’t know why. His theorems are so straightforward. It’s like basic knowledge that every programmer should have absorbed into their DNA.
@noide1837
@noide1837 2 месяца назад
Thank you. I'm writing a paper that involves this, and I was really struggling to explain it. This video will be added to my citations.
@DrSnap23
@DrSnap23 7 лет назад
Summoning Satan at 6:06, I see what you did there.
@Squideey
@Squideey 7 лет назад
This is Numberphile. They were summoning Pythagoras.
@JimSteinbrecher
@JimSteinbrecher 7 лет назад
surely, 5474N
@CH3LS3A
@CH3LS3A 7 лет назад
They were summoning Fermat's "I have a proof of this..." proofs.
@gyrfalcon23
@gyrfalcon23 7 лет назад
this shape is a pentagram, but not inverted as in satanism
@unity303
@unity303 7 лет назад
I think it had to work @11:06 where it's actually 666 seconds, what did he do there...
@foomark21
@foomark21 7 лет назад
Small point: Dr. Kenneth Appel is pronounced Dr. Ah-pel not Dr. Apple. (Source: he was my independent study teacher in high school - he had retired by that point)
@emilyp7362
@emilyp7362 4 года назад
Hmm wow it really is impossible. I tried it for a while, and after a minute, I realized that once you get to the fourth color, no matter how you draw the last section, it either cuts across one section(which means that the cut off section can be changed) or it doesn't touch all other sections, meaning I still use four colors.
@donherrick6562
@donherrick6562 6 лет назад
Irrational maps: subdivided maps that have no end 3D version: imagine it like a puzzle; how many colored puzzle pieces would you need to fill a given shape so that no two colors touch
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 2 года назад
Infinitely many in 3d.
@canadiannuclearman
@canadiannuclearman 7 лет назад
you should talk how the 4 color map problem can be used for scheduling. examples like students time slots for exames.
@Pseudo___
@Pseudo___ 6 лет назад
so this is assuming maps cant have non contiguous sections? Some coutries/gerrymandered districs/ect can get weird and have breaks .
@heimdall1973
@heimdall1973 5 лет назад
If the map is such that in any point where more than 2 countries meet an even number of countries meet, you can always colour it with 2 colours.
@andordee1616
@andordee1616 Год назад
Just begin from the worst case scenario: where each of the countries touch , you cannot put in any other node which touches all other nodes without crossing a vertex.
@SashaPersonXYZ
@SashaPersonXYZ 7 лет назад
so sad he had to use 5 colors to color the square space map.
@parad0x448
@parad0x448 7 лет назад
Sashamanxyz 6
@lockrime
@lockrime 5 лет назад
Numberphile: It's possible to paint a map with only four colours. Exclaves: *I am gonna end this man's entire career*
@EricTheRea
@EricTheRea 5 лет назад
You don't understand the problem.
@OleTange
@OleTange 3 года назад
@@EricTheRea @Lockrime understands the problem that Numberphile stated. You can blame Numberphile for not stating the problem they look at correctly. (Hint: They are not looking at political maps).
@albertfuster6847
@albertfuster6847 4 года назад
What about enclaves and exclaves? This could create some of the situations you presented as "impossible"
@OleTange
@OleTange 3 года назад
Yes. And they should have mentioned this.
@jankisi
@jankisi 3 года назад
When I was in middle school (Year five or six) I thought it was the three colour theorem and proved on a map in the back of my exercise book that it wasn't possible to colour it with only three colour
@archiehellshire1081
@archiehellshire1081 6 лет назад
This wouldn't work in Terry Pratchett's Discworld (completely flat planet sitting on the backs of 4 elephants, standing on top of the giant turtle, A'tuin), in which borders also have height and depth. The Dwarf Kingdom is entirely subterranean and runs underneath Ahnk-Morpork, Sto-Lat, Borogravia, Uberwald, Lancre, et al. Because their map is three dimensional (four dimensions if you count the Fair Folk, let's not) you couldn't swing it with just 4 colors.
@TheOfficialCzex
@TheOfficialCzex 5 лет назад
Lol
@hevgamer6087
@hevgamer6087 5 лет назад
the 4 colors theorem is only for 2D maps, if you go to 3D, you can make maps that require infinite colors
@TheThunderSpirit
@TheThunderSpirit 7 лет назад
this problem is all about 'graph' theory in particular colouring of 'planar' graphs but u never mentioned any of these terms and the Euler's famous formula R=e-v+2
@marios1861
@marios1861 5 лет назад
its an example showing how connected graph theory is to topology.
@baileymendel2979
@baileymendel2979 5 лет назад
at 6:03: you can draw a map of the five countries if you imagine the polyhedron from the top. It would be a bit weird, but the countries could theoretically intersect at a single point
@philipphaselwarter2287
@philipphaselwarter2287 5 лет назад
What a regrettable choice not to mention Gonthier and Werner's work on establishing the correctness (and improving) of the proof.
@lagcom
@lagcom 4 года назад
What about exclaves? Shouldn’t they be the same color with their mainland?
@piguy9225
@piguy9225 4 года назад
I was just thinking about that. If you color enclaves the same as the mainland, you could forces a situation where you would need more than 2 colors. I don't think there is any case a something like that happening on real life, but it is possible.
@piguy9225
@piguy9225 4 года назад
*4 colors, not 2.
@jako0981
@jako0981 4 года назад
@@piguy9225 Yes there is you mongoloid
@RazvanMaioru
@RazvanMaioru 3 года назад
@@jako0981 I'm sure I don't need to tell you how racist using "mongoloid" as an insult is... you're lucky more people didn't see that
@DemianNuur
@DemianNuur 7 лет назад
13:11 Wow! New haircut!
@johnsalkeld1088
@johnsalkeld1088 5 лет назад
I think it would be interesting to have a video on coloring maps on surfaces with higher genus or to colour empires on a plane
@kingoftadpoles
@kingoftadpoles 5 дней назад
This has always been of interest to me.
@huub9009
@huub9009 7 лет назад
What about exclaves? They could produce crossing lines.
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 5 лет назад
A lot of commenters think they've found a counterexample, when what's really happened is they either didn't examine what the theorem considers "adjacent" ("What about five countries that meet at a point?"), or they tricked themselves into thinking their map needs more than four colours when it doesn't ("What about one country surrounded by four countries?").
@normanhairston1411
@normanhairston1411 Год назад
The first thing you learn in crystallography is the number of tilings that can completely fill space. A tiling would be taking some shape and translating, rotating, and or flipping it so that it completely fills an infinite floor with the same pattern. There are only about 120 of them and there is a proof that involves 4 dimensional geometry. I always thought that the tilings problem with its 4 dimensional aspect somehow related to the 4 color map theorem.
@MathsWithMelv
@MathsWithMelv 6 лет назад
Love your videos!
@lolsluls995
@lolsluls995 7 лет назад
Yeayy james grime! james grime! james grime! Forget about Terence Tao, James Grime is the sexy mathmatician celebrity we need.
@jonnygat1580
@jonnygat1580 7 лет назад
Until you start considering enclaves/exclaves. Then you can require more than 4 colours.
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 7 лет назад
True. For example, 4 exclaves can already enforce 8 colours.
@Colaman112
@Colaman112 6 лет назад
The thing is, mathematicians don't want to be bothered by real world things such as exclaves. They just want to do theoretical stuff.
@afterthought9
@afterthought9 6 лет назад
Jason King How? Imagine 4 circles spaced around inside 1 large circle
@afterthought9
@afterthought9 6 лет назад
Jason King Damn. You’re totally right. That’s where late night thinking led me!
@afterthought9
@afterthought9 6 лет назад
Jason King actually just drew one that needs 5 colours. Though it would be a pretty unusual map.
@wesleydeng71
@wesleydeng71 5 лет назад
Moral of the story, not every mathematical proof is beautiful. In other words, not all theorems have a well understood underlying argument - sometimes they just happen to be true.
@eggynack
@eggynack 5 лет назад
@an_il_ I'm skeptical that the simplest solution is that piles of mathematician from all fields of study, all of whom are near certainly familiar with the problem, just missed some simple proof. It's entirely possible that mathematicians missed some incredibly complex proof that could nonetheless be done with the human hand, but the scenario you propose is outlandish. It's not a more complex assumption that there exist mathematical statements that lack simple proofs.
@Nilslos
@Nilslos 6 лет назад
I would say I'm also a bit numberphile (that's why I study computer science), but I'm far from being as numberphile as you are. When I watch you're videos I get more numberphile, but I can't keep up that level. If I could get near to being as numberphile it would really help me at university, but although I can't I really enjoy watching you're videos :-).
@TheWeepingCorpse
@TheWeepingCorpse 7 лет назад
im writing a compiler and this reminds me of cpu register coloring. @QVear for some reason I cant reply to your comment, I've created a language that mixes together parts of C++ with BASIC.
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 7 лет назад
TheWeepingCorpse For what language?
@mihailazar2487
@mihailazar2487 7 лет назад
I would imagine that if you wanted to make a map that requires 5 colors you might wanna try drawing it on a donut because of the specific priorities that the toroidal shape has this making it possible to make said map
@slothfulcobra
@slothfulcobra 4 года назад
The thing I kept thinking for all of this is how this is a fundamentally geometric approach to the issue of mapmaking, and countries, counties, and other things represented by maps often don't follow geometric rules with things like exclaves. And don't think I didn't notice how most of your four color examples still reserved a fifth color for the sea.
@r3ked272
@r3ked272 2 года назад
You can use a fifth color for the sea if you try hard enough.
@benjaminwalters6703
@benjaminwalters6703 6 лет назад
If hypothetically you had a region divided entirely into two separate parts but must be the same color because they are considered the same region, then you would need 5 colors
@laurencewilson6163
@laurencewilson6163 5 лет назад
What if u have a country that is split ip
@daande97
@daande97 7 лет назад
6:09 but what about enclaves? It would work out if you use them.
@DeathlyTired
@DeathlyTired 7 лет назад
Yes, my immediate thought was, "But what about a map with many a Kaliningrad'"
@screw0dog
@screw0dog 7 лет назад
Yep, the four colour theorem doesn't apply to maps with arbitrary enclaves. I suspect you can create maps that require an arbitrarily high number of colours if enclaves are allowed.
@daande97
@daande97 7 лет назад
The 4 colour theorem does not apply for the network James has drawn @6:09. If you insist that every piece of land which is surrounded by a border has got its own colour the 4 colour theorem is true.
@stevethecatcouch6532
@stevethecatcouch6532 7 лет назад
If all of the territory of a country must be colored the same, an enclave could force the need for a 5th color. Look at his map at 3:58. Add a 5th country on the outside that touches all three of the countries not in the center. Now imagine an enclave of that country situated within the center country. What color can the 5th country be colored? It can't be the same as the outer counties, all of which it touches. It can't be colored the same as the middle country, because the enclave would be that same color. A 5th color would be needed.
@migueldp9297
@migueldp9297 7 лет назад
Yeh, I also was thinking on enclaves, but anyways, is a cool theorem, right?
@fladmus
@fladmus 6 лет назад
This one guy, on this channel. Is making me care about more interesting aspects of math. Seems his name is James Grime. Man I hope he's a teacher.
@anglewyrm3849
@anglewyrm3849 2 года назад
Does this rule also apply to vertex/edge networks? Could I take it as given there are only four colors of vertex?
@schonerwissen2013
@schonerwissen2013 5 лет назад
This video and the problem were quite interesting! But the end was...somewhat unsatisfactory! :(
@georgebuzea6879
@georgebuzea6879 4 года назад
6:19 it makes sense if you have exclaves/enclaves. Right?
@manioqqqq
@manioqqqq Год назад
They are off in the quadracolor theorem And, 🟥🟦 🟦🟥 Is valid.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 9 месяцев назад
In the real world, yeah, but not in the context of this problem.
@davidwilkie9551
@davidwilkie9551 5 лет назад
Intuition/Conjecture:- 4 Colours/Dimensions of Identification would seem to be the Rule of Geometric Drawing and Perspective, mapped/substantiated in QM-TIMING Vanishing Point Vertices => CofG type relative Location, ie that's why 3D+T has these dominant characteristics, as Perceived.. In other words, the phase-states of QM-Time modulation proceed in frequency dominance 1, 2, 3, 4, etc such that the Unitary-Duality 0-1-2 ×3, 2i covers the map, or topology of the dominant probabilities of relatively coherent / observable scales.
@jsax4heart
@jsax4heart 3 года назад
Do other countries math courses prefer the term graph or the term network? Its interesting how he mentions the petersen graph and planar graphs.
@shinjinobrave
@shinjinobrave 3 года назад
11:00 The final solution was done by significantly more than two guys :s
@CoolExcite
@CoolExcite 7 лет назад
Anyone else try to draw a counterexample is ms paint and miserably fail?
@erichiguera
@erichiguera 7 лет назад
the network at 6:08 can actually be drawn as 5 countries. just make a circle and divide the circle into 5 parts. since all 5 touch in the middle, you need more than 4 colors
@orionmartoridouriet6834
@orionmartoridouriet6834 7 лет назад
Throbbin So Hard Frontiers cannot be made only by one point, so the center of the circle doesn't count as a valid frontier
@skyr8449
@skyr8449 6 лет назад
yeah, I have basically shown to myself how things need to warp to do it, and as I knew it would be impossible, I have found something so sadly close that it kept cutting off the strands of color of other things.
@CraftQueenJr
@CraftQueenJr 6 лет назад
I succeeded in makng one on my channel..
@JohanBregler
@JohanBregler 6 лет назад
I found one, but I don't know where to submit it
@steves3948
@steves3948 2 года назад
I love these videos.
@thomasmiller8289
@thomasmiller8289 5 лет назад
Do spherical maps have a different color theorem? Or do they still count?
@souravzzz
@souravzzz 7 лет назад
So it took a German guy to find the final solution?
@mihirkamat504
@mihirkamat504 7 лет назад
U Wot M8 U wot m8?
@Leo.Labine
@Leo.Labine 5 лет назад
He had the final solution 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@nihel3144
@nihel3144 5 лет назад
Yeah... Germany is the country that really likes to mess with borders...
@chlorinegivesmelife9792
@chlorinegivesmelife9792 5 лет назад
@@nihel3144 Germany also borders 9 other countries... NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
@therealdave06
@therealdave06 4 года назад
The key to breaking this: Enclaves and exclaves
@seanleith5312
@seanleith5312 4 года назад
and draw three lines that intersect at one point, his law is broken.
@DennisHodgson
@DennisHodgson 6 лет назад
This only applies to plane surfaces or the surface of a sphere. I seem to remember that a map on the surface of a torus requires seven colours.
@whywelovefilm7079
@whywelovefilm7079 4 года назад
I didn’t think it was possible. Congratulations, you have made coloring complicated...