The Frozen in Time Effect! 

Lol sees red cam and automatically thnks it's impossible. Well aftereffects cc comes with c4d and it has a decent tracker. Or you could just get the student version of maya and motion builder is also free just go to autodesk's site. So all you really need is people standing still with aftereffects and modeling 3d objects is easy. If you don't get a good track just put contrasting markers all over the place to get you 3d to stick better. You only need the expensive camera if your digitally zooming or putting it up on a biggscreen and you only need the motorized rig if your doing a long complex shot.

I know this late but it is possible. The only reason they need that rig with the camera to do the same motions over and over again is because there are mutiple shots of Kessler fighting people and he has to be in a new location. If you had two different people interacting at different intervals just standing in their positions already then you can do it in one motion. Then if you do some research and learn how to use 3d software viola! I did the same effect but went about 360 degrees around my actors and Bammy Wham!

***** The medium difficulty is for the first part, combining the actors together, not the second half. The second half was in there just to give a look at a higher end way to do that. Half of the 3D assets (Flames, rocket, bullet, etc...) were put in using only After Effects with Element 3D (which we use on the show all the time and is very affordable)... Those assets were also tracked in using AE's built in tracker... Also, if you have AE you have Mocha, which has one of the best trackers out in my opinion. For the camera, you don't need a RED Epic. Any DSLR would be just fine. Makes me sad to see so many people miss the point of an episode like this. You might not be able to do this right now, but this is good info to take and make your own, in your own way... And to give you a leg up in the event you find yourself with this gear.

***** What are you talking about? You don't need a RED to get a good track. A DSLR works just fine. Get a good lens and go outside in the daytime. Look at that, no noise. If motion is a problem then bump up the shutter speed and don't wave the camera like a madman. Problem solved. But lets say you do have some noise. Do you think these 3D tracking programs are weak. They are powerful tools and that is why they are expensive. If you get rid of bad tracks, average out your high and lows, and make sure the best tracks are on screen for long periods of time then these programs can usually handle it. Better yet, before you go home and pop the footage into your computer make sure you have a clean shot before you start to put effects on it. Nobody said it was easy but you also don't have to make it this difficult.

***** You mentioned a very clean noise free output. Also, about chroma sub sampling, you are making things more difficult than they need to be. Talking about an encoding scheme doesn't help your argument that this can't be achieved. I can understand peoples frustration that many of the things used in this video were high end products but the reason this was medium difficulty was because the concept is not hard. Good equipment doesn't automatically mean it's difficult. Look you are already familiar with 3D software(I watched your little video of particles) and you know that you can do this effect so why argue it. Are you still arguing because you truly believe people can't do this or are you at the point now where you see a notification to this conversation and feel you have to defend your opinion?

Chris Wolfe / MysticNRG 531 You forgot to mention the kidney.

Lowkey Chris yeah , I hate seeing everyone freakin complaining , if you can't do it ... than don't do it !

I'm sure somebody could build it in wood with some gears. For this one shot that would make do. No need for "fully controllable", if you keep the set simple. If you have some money left over, you could buy the controllable slider from Edelkrone for 2 Grand, it's more than enough.

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Or you could rent it, just saying dude from 1 year ago. I doubt they bought it.

***** Yes, renting is a fantastic option for those who live in a country where this is available. I work overseas and there's not a chance in hell I could rent something like this. Not to mention the idea that if I did rent it and have it sent by mail, I'd probably have to pay 20% just to get it into the country. Not everything that requires a camera happens in big cities in the US.

I haven't tried it, but you should be able to make trade offs like using Film Riot's diy slider if you don't need such a complex shot, or using blender for the cg + motion tracking. I agree though, to pull off this type of shot you need a lot of 3D training

***** There's a very good reason there are no serious international equipment: A person could just rent stuff and keep it. A $25000 RED? Pocketed. Want to put a lawsuit? Don't think for a second it will cost anywhere near that. A partner company with ours is involved in a lawsuit for 1.3 million dollars against a US defendant and a TW defendant. They are considering it "not worth the effort" to go after the TW defendant. The only alternative to it would be to go the insurance route - which often ends up costing the insured more than the cost of the equipment in the long run. Also, consider the fact that the renting person would probably have to pay both ridiculous shipping *and* (which often approaches the cost of the stuff for the stuff that isn't RED cameras) possibly get stung for import taxes (can *sometimes* be claimed back later, but paperwork and initial outlay...) I am constantly trying to buy stuff from the US like man-sized shirts, underwear and deodorant and it's often just as much for shipping... If I also had to send it back.... Imagine renting a $500 jib crane, renting it for 50 bucks for the weekend, paying $150 for shipping, $150 to send it back and getting hit for $100 on taxes and import fees. $450 for a crane for a weekend. That's why it's not that great of a business idea. That's why I own all my own equipment and DIY most of my accessories. I have full 4 foot tall soft boxes (made by me), sliders with weight based timers, specialized tripod heads, a Merlin II (and a better DIY version as well) as a "50 Cal" and many other goodies. DIY on a setup like in this video is a bit more than my wrench-twisting can handle though.

No editing was handed off. But I did have help with the 3D animation, is that what you meant? Either way, the main idea behind this is the actors frozen in time, which I did. The RED EPIC wasn't needed for this, a DSLR would have worked fine, just would have taken a bit more set up. For the CineDrive... Are you saying that we should never show how to use pro gear? Or teach anything beyond beginning amateur projects? How would that help aspiring filmmakers? The episode following this one gives an idea of how to do the same thing with none of the high-end gear. The point here is to see behind the scene of how we did this so others can do the same if/when they get the budget for the gear... What makes me face-palm a bit from your comment is... Would you want to go to a film school that only showed you how to do things using your iPhone? We are trying to offer info to hopeful filmmakers, it may not all be for you.

Film Riot Oh I was just being cheeky about the fact that it was described as "difficulty - medium". I'm totally fine with using better gear and more advanced equipment. Perhaps my word choice was wrong when I said "editing" was handed off. I should have said "a big chunk of the post-processing workflow" was handed off. Certainly this is acceptable as it is the standard for how these types of specialized FX shots are done in many film efforts. I just found some irony in the idea of a "how to" showing step 1, step 2, step 3, then hand it to a company that can do this sort of thing, step 5 step 6... It's a bit like saying "how to install cabinets - clear your kitchen, set up a ladder and an extension cord, then call a cabinet installer, and clean up when he's done". I'm a pretty small scale video maker, but as the complication factor goes up, I usually find that I have *less* available resources/friends/money etc that can help me do that stuff, so I just have to buckle down and learn it myself. I think I am not alone here in your audience. Let's face it, not everyone is going to have the chance to go to film school. For the purposes of a video like this though, I think it's fair that the wildly complicated 3D anim portion was handed off. I just thought it was ironic. The comment above about the RED was in reference to the idea of an international rental company. High dollar items would never be returned and it would be very expensive and difficult for the company to do anything about it. Moderately priced and lower priced items wouldn't be worth it due to shipping costs and import duty hassle.

Lol same af

you are not alone lol soon as he got to the lighting in the 3d software ..i respectively stop watching because clearly I'm not on that level yet *sad face * lmao nah seriously I'm really crying fr

you are not alone...

haha right!

welcome to the club 😂😂

I know aye

I feel sorry for your brain mate... :P

gaminger1 dont feel sorry for his brain m8 , its jus phantom pains trickin him as a ghost ;)

Too many dots 😂

The medium difficulty is in the technique, not obtaining the gear. You get the gear through renting, etc... This specific tut is not a DIY tutorial. Our show covers everything from DIY to pro. If you want to be a filmmaker, you need all of that, not just no-budget ideas. Hope this helps.

Of course it's about the technique, and i was actually intentionally sarcastic seeing what amount of work you consider "medium difficulty" On my bachelor (game audio design) i did a lot of work using advanced game engines what included building an entire working game level with all its mechanics, playability, user interaction, all working audio and all the stuff. Some parts of it were pretty similar to what u showed in the 3d software part, It took me 3 years of studying to get to that point and i was rather good in that! So after watching this tut i asked myself if this is medium then what is "expert" building my own a camera? ;-) Don't get me wrong, i like your videos and i like ur sense of humour but i think in this one u got too far beyond what a youtube tut really should look like and i think you dissapointed some or made them feel like total amateurs :) It should generally be something that any smarter casual film maker will be able to do... other than that ...keep doing the great job ! :-)

Nah man. That's the wrong attitude. Our show is about showing how to make films - from every department and experience level. If someone just wants to do it as a hobby on the side and never really go pro, that's fine and we have plenty of videos for that. But this episode is for those that are looking to go beyond that, or are at this level and just need inspiration. Episodes that are too simplistic will disappoint our more advanced views, and episodes that are more advanced will disappoint our more amateur viewers. It's a balance, and a needed one for sure.

I thought so too in the beginning but tbh even if you can't get the expensive gear I think you can really use some aspects of it in a DIY way. I mean of course not everything exactly, but you can figure some out right, ;) that's where the fun is

+Film Riot well done nearly 900000 subs

gamelerfish well shit...

you can always film normally without any kind of rig, all you need to is stabilise the footage later

Peter Valente Then you wouldn't be able to get the exact same shot needed to recreate the original clip (thus after effects masking process)

People who are professionally considering this as a career.

The people that rent out cameras for indie films...

yea, with a rig it's not hard to do it. Without the rig it's nearly impossible the get the same shot. they did it with a rig

xD "Its So Hard We Agree"

Which song is used? If you know than please tell me

ikr

I have no idea why they even made this tutorial. If people are getting this for their filmmaking then they probably and should already know how to do this

Film riot is amateur when it comes to vfx.

Weird you're right

Because this video is frozen in time :D

+AshTheMinecraft you're right

+AshTheMinecraft It both has the old player, and it won't play for me What is happeninggg

+AshTheMinecraft yeah??

I mean.. Yeah. xD I was joking because its the same idea. xD

"The other guys" made first at 2010.

@@kartikeysrivastava7864 and u too

Ant Vic lol

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+Ray Digital All those lines and geometry haha

Lol

Olov Svedjeland Ödlund 6:50 gods software is why

+Bryce Washburn Haha! Or the Taj Mahal all over again, real time, real life!!!

SaNiN Ek right?

That's how we did the paddle ball in the back.

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+Marian Iancov Ott is a slang for weed in germany :D

Hi. Im not sure I understand why you say this sir.

Marian Iancov You said the budget is ott :D

Elijah Greg yeah

He did

+vincetoms like in slow motion??

Yolostabber99 no, his qs scene was more like flash or when qs played ping pong

Really?

Hello

exactly what I was thinking

same here! xD

Difference was that that entire sequence was CGI. So they could actually animate that in slow motion from the get go. :P

You don't need a RED. A BMPC4K would handle the scene absolutely fine.

+theeltea even a camcorder could do

LMFAO

thank u so much

***** God bless you, I couldn't find it anywhere.

+piyush sharma i agree

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Yeah! Never saw this before..

yeah... its weird

lmao yea

its weird

Glad I'm not the only one lol

add into that the gears he had. :/ They are not cheap gears!! Anyhow.. I think you can pull this off by seamlessly stitching in clips. Much like how you do panorama with images.

Actually, rendering for projects like this usually happen on workstations, but rendering is a very procedural thing. Even a slower computer can do it, if you are prepared for a bit of a wait. And by "slower", I mean something like what I run, an i7 Ivy Bridge 6 core with liquid cooling, 24GB fast DDRIII, all matched, 2x 500MB/s+ SSD's in RAID0 for OS and scratch and another 2 for program and a pair of SLI nvidia video cards and very, very good ventilation. Seriously, I've also got about 10 grand in camera gear and a bunch of DIY rigs and lighting stuff too, but this project made me feel like it's all just a bunch of rinky dink toys. Of course, it *is* all just a bunch of rinky dink toys when compared to a pro setup, but I'm usually comfortable with that. This "Difficulty: Medium" took me down a notch or two.

eschelar I hope clients understand that your gears/rigs ain't cheap. Some clients demand like you do it as easy/cheaply. -.-"

Hydrokat lol. it's my personal gear. I'm just a hobby shooter. Most of the value is in glass, but I've got a couple of bodies too. 10 grand ain't much when it comes to a bag full of L glass. For work, I do a bit of commercial video here and there and quite a bit of work with stills, but I'm just getting my feet wet and I don't have much in the way of artistic talent, so I'll never be a creative sort that makes thought provoking masterpieces. Just some basic 5-10 minute promotional spots. I still remember for my first wedding shoot back in the day before DSLR's could do video and I had spent around $1500 to fill in the gaps in my lens collection so I could actually do the thing right. The wedding shoot was for a friend, so I told her not to worry about it. They didn't have a lot of money, but they gave me a little something... Around $15. They asked "Is it enough?" *sigh* people don't really understand... That didn't even cover the cost of the eneloops that I bought for the flashes. I am not a pro and I was up front with them about it and I was expecting $0 (which was probably their original budget for a photog), so it wasn't a problem for our friendship... Oddly, about a year later, they had a few of the pics on their walls and were happy with them... and totally out of the blue, they slipped about $100 into my jacket when I was at their house (which was probably a lot for them considering I was there because they were moving back to her parents house because she had gotten sick and they didn't have the money for treatment). It's the thought that counts! :)

eschelar From where I am from, 10 grand is a fortune! To be giving that wedding service almost free is very thoughtful of you. They must be really close to you as a friend for them to have that treatment. I just do hope that the clients (by client I mean no where related to you) you have understand that "thank you" won't pay the bills. This goes not just to photographers and videographers but to other kinds of artists as well.

me

It's b/c it's frozen in time. Duh.

IKR

me

How did he do that?

My dude, if you're willing to get a little "creative" you can still get it... And other software as well as games, movies, and other media that's become unavailable. And also stuff that's available but is a little too expensive for you... If you catch my drift ;)

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This was well worth it

yes

Yeah why is that?

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