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The Future of British Politics: In Conversation with Simon Heffer 

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In this new interview as a part of the In Conversation events, Tom Clougherty, Executive Director of the Institute of Economic Affairs, sits down with Simon Heffer, the renowned historian, journalist, and political commentator. Heffer, a prominent conservative voice, shares his incisive perspectives on British politics, economics, and society.
Heffer delves into the struggles of the contemporary Conservative Party, offering a scathing critique of recent leadership and the party's ongoing civil war over Europe. He also explores the challenges facing the country, including an ageing population, pressures on the welfare state, and the need for economic reform and deregulation to spur growth.
Heffer's insights span a wide range of topics, from the failures of corporatism and state overreach to the importance of incentivising hard work and self-reliance. He advocates for a renewed debate on the role of the state, calling for a transition from a welfare state to a "welfare society" rooted in Victorian values of self-help and mutual aid. This thought-provoking discussion is a must-watch for anyone interested in the future of British politics and economics.
00:05:32 - The state of the Conservative Party
00:10:43 - Brexit and the Conservative civil war
00:33:07 - The role of the civil service and "the Blob"
00:35:58 - Britain's decline from great power status
00:44:22 - The need for economic deregulation and incentives
00:50:09 - Reforming the welfare state and transitioning to a "welfare society"
00:50:34 - Fixing the public sector pension system
00:59:42 - Qualities needed in politicians/the next Conservative leader
01:04:57 - Concerns about the future U.S. presidential election
01:07:54 - Anecdotes about interacting with political figures
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@keithsewell8389
@keithsewell8389 Месяц назад
Rent levels render many British people unable to adequately provide for themselves.
@anthonyferris8912
@anthonyferris8912 Месяц назад
Same in US, Canada, Australia and many countries across the EU.
@chris-eq3sx
@chris-eq3sx Месяц назад
And their taxes being used for just about anything else apart from looking after the people of the country while the country falls apart
@jdg9999
@jdg9999 Месяц назад
Yep, but the problem is, neither the mainstream left or right know what to do about it.
@brightonduder
@brightonduder Месяц назад
The cause is inflation caused by government intervention Savvy people borrow money and buy homes Homes keep their value and money doesn’t - so after 20 yrs the mortgage value has disappeared Don’t blame smart people for navigating government incompetence
@futures2247
@futures2247 Месяц назад
hurting people is just another opportunity for neoliberals but it never hurts the rich
@locke230
@locke230 Месяц назад
He's right about Johnson's cabinet but it's the same old freedom for those who have money and poverty and vulnerability for those who don't .
@jnielson1121
@jnielson1121 27 дней назад
Exactly the way the neoliberal propaganda machine of the IEA intends it to be. Why don't they tell us who funds them?
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Месяц назад
Democracy is not the public just voting but more important getting what they want. Liberal Democracy is just rule by international finance and the Merchant class now.
@importantjohn
@importantjohn Месяц назад
That’s called the tyranny of the majority. Or mob rule
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 Месяц назад
Democracy does not exist...
@stevefrith9924
@stevefrith9924 29 дней назад
quite so, as delivered by mrs Thatcher. Isn't that the point?
@importantjohn
@importantjohn 28 дней назад
You do not get what you want in a democracy, you get what the majority want. Not the same thing, dear.
@redwine2664
@redwine2664 28 дней назад
@@stevefrith9924 and your alternative is what? Revolution!
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 Месяц назад
You can sum up the politics of the UK easily:- Democracy does not exist! There you go!
@laralsofia
@laralsofia Месяц назад
I enjoyed this interview. A testimonial of the failure of neoliberalism
@importantjohn
@importantjohn 28 дней назад
I don’t think you were listening. His argument was that left wing social and economic policy had failed
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 27 дней назад
I got more out of it as a pointed failure of Heffers views and brexit
@drew699
@drew699 26 дней назад
UK, by most metrics has got progressively more socialist over the past 25yrs ie. State spending as % GDP has grown from 34 to 44%. We see the results of a bigger state, all around us now from NHS to economically inactivity.
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 26 дней назад
@@drew699 When the economy fails - due a right wing non socilaist governement of the last 14 years and its right wing antics (brexit anyone?) then state spending is the only answer to keep eveyrthing from failing apart to the point of societal collapse and civil war. The collapse of the banks and financial system was pure anti-socialist 'adventure' - allowed by a purely ultra capitalist failure to control the banks. You could have let them fail - and if had been only the ordinary people that were hurt they woudl have . But it also would mean the rich elite capitalists would have lost their money as well. Thats not allowed!----- so the banks got saved by £1 TRILLION of tax payers money. It looked like a massive socialist action but in fact was entirely brutally capitalist In short --it is the non socilaists right wingers that screw things up and the only options that are available appear socialist to the uninformed but are not. The UK in the 1990s was far more socialist in practice and by nature than it is now (e.g. NHS spending was highest ever in those times) - and the economy was stronger for it.
@importantjohn
@importantjohn 26 дней назад
@@bbbf09 The financial crisis was caused by State regulation that mandated banks pursue sub prime mortgages for 'societal reasons', kept interest rates artificially low (overruling the market) and implemented a lot of other regulation that distorted the effective functioning of the market. Not intervening when the system went broke would of meant the total collapse of the economy, that would of hit the poor more than the rich.
@sluglife9785
@sluglife9785 Месяц назад
Had to sell his Mother's house, because her care cost over £100,000 a year... I hope you all heard that number. He is living in a parallel dimension to the vast, vast majority of the country, and has no clue. This is such a warped perspective.
@shaunmac6851
@shaunmac6851 Месяц назад
It was when he pointed out that we all know people who've inherited vast amounts of wealth that's corrupted them..... er, do we??
@sluglife9785
@sluglife9785 Месяц назад
@@shaunmac6851 Indeed. I don't want to appear to be attacking the man because that inevitably takes us nowhere good, but a saner politics requires a more balanced perspective where we try to understand and account for each other. It's a complicated task, which is why simplifying ideologies like Neoliberalism never work.
@anthonyferris8912
@anthonyferris8912 Месяц назад
Can't imagine many capable people who've had proper jobs, would ever want to be an MP.
@bobstephenson8747
@bobstephenson8747 Месяц назад
As an ‘average’ salaried worker in my late 50’s, with two teenage kids aspiring to go to uni, mortgage etc I simply don’t have the capacity to make provision to save for care I may potentially need in my dotage. I don’t have a lavish lifestyle, drive a knackered old car, rarely take holidays, pay as much as I can into my pension etc there’s always some month left at the end of the money. Until we start taxing the super rich and disincentivise the squirrelling away of billions into off- shore bank accounts we will never make any progress!
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 28 дней назад
Very well said sir!!
@mtrhodesy
@mtrhodesy 21 день назад
Did you choose to work for others of your own free will, or did you take a risk and start a business? What steps did you take to learn skills that translate in you being able to profit directly? Why not tax the risk adverse, or people who sacrifice their shot at wealth over security? I’ve spent years learning skills that profit me directly, I’ve then used these profits, bet on myself, and risked losing everything if I got my pricing wrong. This isn’t a dig at you but at that mindset. You’ve just described all the things that mean your decisions would never bring the wealth you wanted. That said I’m in agreement about some having billions and hoarding it away in a tax haven etc. How much is enough if you’ve already got a billion, you could live a lavish life and give anything else to improving your community and really do some good. A social capitalist if you will.
@rossscott7260
@rossscott7260 27 дней назад
People living paycheck to paycheck can't take risks if the price of failure is starvation. The reason why the rich can succeed is that they can fail again and again.
@guydreamr
@guydreamr 28 дней назад
Well, I for one am shocked - shocked! - that the party taking such a turn toward unbridled self-interest would itself be riven by politicians out for...their own self-interests.
@johnvale295
@johnvale295 Месяц назад
When the Prime Minister and government ministers are hamstrung by obstructive civil servants and, in some cases, the High Court, it is easy to see why few of the issues in the UK are ever solved. The worst part of this is that no political party seems to have an effective strategy to remove these obstacles.
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 Месяц назад
No such thing as democracy... Just the illusion of it!
@pedalinpete
@pedalinpete Месяц назад
So you think that they should be above the law?
@gordondavies7773
@gordondavies7773 Месяц назад
UK should be thankful for the dedication and real patriotism of the civil and public servants over the last 14 years of Tory induced crisis.
@johnvale295
@johnvale295 Месяц назад
@@pedalinpete When a law is not fit for purpose, yes.
@johnvale295
@johnvale295 Месяц назад
@@gordondavies7773 I disagree. Senior civil servants have frustrated the progress of Prime Ministers and parliamentarians who were elected to pursue certain mandates, such as Brexit, and have provided obstacles to any meaningful change. For example, an attempt to stop illegal migrants from making the dangerous Channel crossing in small boats, through a strategy of flying them to Rwanda if they attempt to enter the country illegally, has been blocked at every turn. In the meantime, more attempt the crossing and drown. What's the point in voting for any political party if they cannot deliver on their promises due to red tape?
@nigelhard1519
@nigelhard1519 Месяц назад
Talk about serious dinners
@Johnconno
@Johnconno Месяц назад
A man of large appetites.
@nigelhard1519
@nigelhard1519 Месяц назад
Pretty impressive analysis.
@bradleyholland4881
@bradleyholland4881 29 дней назад
Keeps several local carveries going singlehanded.
@epluribusu9430
@epluribusu9430 Месяц назад
"Don't mention the Brexit !!" - Basil Fawlty. Pontificates on everything but not 40 seconds on the mega disaster he foisted on his countrymen.
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 Месяц назад
What Heffer seems oblivious of is not Britain’s lack of work ethic; it’s what’s BEHIND work ethic! There needs to be INCENTIVE to work hard! What incentive IS THERE?!? Young men can’t hope to find a loyal wife or buy a house! They’ll be lucky to have one child, let alone 2.1 - The replacement rate!
@markferguson7563
@markferguson7563 Месяц назад
Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris. I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP. The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also. However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations. Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.
@th8257
@th8257 29 дней назад
Russian troll
@phillpotts9047
@phillpotts9047 Месяц назад
Wow... This is what's missing out of politics today. Will NEVER EVER beat common sense. Bravo 👏👏👏👏
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
Ah the common sense myth, anybody with an advanced understanding of macroeconomics knows that the "common sense" of running a corner shop does not work at the macro scale. Just like in physics where everyday life can be explained by Newton but when you want to talk about astronomy you need Einstein.
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 27 дней назад
Common sense yesterday is the nonsense of later years - e.g. the transatlantic slave trade. Although maybe you still believe that was good old 'common sense' and the woke crowd went mad to believe otherwise. I'll hazard a guess Mt. Heffer 'Enoch Powell is the greatest' probably does believe that. Anyway - there is no absolute timeless benchmark of 'common sense'
@peterwatson3944
@peterwatson3944 6 дней назад
Keep the state out of our pockets
@modestproposal9114
@modestproposal9114 28 дней назад
It's rich the IEA complaining about the state of affairs crafted in their own image
@mikedunn8104
@mikedunn8104 Месяц назад
Thatcher was a disaster! The policy of privatisation has had catastrophic consequences for every citizen of the U.K. Hayek and Friedman have been thoroughly debunked.
@markferguson7563
@markferguson7563 Месяц назад
(*** A.S. Yes, indeed, Mike, privatisation - which, effectively, is part and parcel of the globalisation bandwagon - has been a disaster. I suggest you get a copy of Ernst Schumacher's, 'Small is Beautiful: Economics as if People Really Matter', which was published in 1972, predicted the looming madness of globalisation. ***) ************************************* Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris. I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP. The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also. However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations. Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.
@lonewanderer3456
@lonewanderer3456 Месяц назад
Simon Heffer, Douglas Murray and Dr David Starkey should have been key advisors for the Govt.
@xtc2v
@xtc2v Месяц назад
Douglas Murray supports the genocide in Gaza
@jumblestiltskin1365
@jumblestiltskin1365 Месяц назад
Well said, considering the utter mess they've made in 14 years, even the teletubbies might have provided them with better, more coherent advice.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Месяц назад
All Classical Liberals with no solutions.
@richardwhite1120
@richardwhite1120 Месяц назад
Should be
@rosendo3523
@rosendo3523 Месяц назад
Three cheeks of the same arse. You must be joking....
@drc4563
@drc4563 15 дней назад
Wise guy. Speaks his mind. Like this.
@larslarsen5414
@larslarsen5414 Месяц назад
Like so many highly educated Brits this guy is very likeable and very smart. Only problem is that his sort rarely have any political viable solution to anything: "Deregulate" :-) - That word is pretty empty by now "culture war" - this is an empty attack on.... well, someone else....
@th8257
@th8257 29 дней назад
Simon Heffer was always a very strange eccentric, and that has only increased with time. He belongs on the lunatic fringe of a past era.
@bradleyholland4881
@bradleyholland4881 Месяц назад
Was it gut instinct that swung Heffer from left to right on the political spectrum?
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
He's certainly got the gut for it.
@paulcook7986
@paulcook7986 25 дней назад
It's not all about Brexit, the UK has been going downhill since Thatcher's time.
@edwardmclaughlin7935
@edwardmclaughlin7935 Месяц назад
Dinners cannot get more serious than his.
@paddyhalligan28
@paddyhalligan28 Месяц назад
He looks like he’s eaten a lot of them.
@masoodahmed2041
@masoodahmed2041 Месяц назад
Brexit could have worked but BJ made a complete mess of it, I voted remain as I was hypnotised by economic orthodoxy over radical ideas.
@matthewbell4200
@matthewbell4200 Месяц назад
This is superb and one of the best political discussions I’ve come across
@simony2801
@simony2801 16 дней назад
He’s nuts
@christopherfisher8748
@christopherfisher8748 28 дней назад
Massively interesting talk and I totally agree with most of his comments
@edwardmclaughlin7935
@edwardmclaughlin7935 Месяц назад
How can such an established and respected political observer be so out of touch with what is actually taking place on the political scene?
@themajesticmagnificent386
@themajesticmagnificent386 29 дней назад
The U.K is at the mercy of landlords..The majority of the economy is for the benefit of estate agents..Small industries here are again forgotten..The U.K needs to produce and grow as producers of a variety of products and services..Part of the problem is we have forgot or choose to think we’re not good enough or others can and we can’t..This thinking must change..But can only change with new thinking from the top down and incentives in tax ..
@chriswhite1417
@chriswhite1417 Месяц назад
Is this the IEA: architects of Liz Truss' disastrous mini budget??
@daraorourke5798
@daraorourke5798 Месяц назад
Pretty much.
@gordondavies7773
@gordondavies7773 Месяц назад
Yes... and they still have not declared who finances their sinister propaganda
@adriancurtin6012
@adriancurtin6012 Месяц назад
The problem is the Home Office .Not the Treasury.
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
Sadly our Civil Service has been so politicised that ministers receive the advice they want to hear not what they should hear. Any Civil Servant who tells his minister that a policy won't work is sacked. The FCO and Treasury warned the government about Brexit and it lead to all the best Civil Servants being replaced.
@adriancurtin6012
@adriancurtin6012 Месяц назад
Very informative!
@maryfountain4202
@maryfountain4202 Месяц назад
I haven't listened to so much common sense for a long time, and agree with everything including the quality of cabinets; saying a lot other than the seriousness of what they're doing.
@TheGatesOfFire
@TheGatesOfFire Месяц назад
Thatcher was a complete disaster. Squander north sea oil and gas, and gave away all national treasures.
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
Thatcher sold off the nation's family silver and gave the money to the City of London.
@hodgebodge
@hodgebodge 29 дней назад
It wasn't squandered. It was used to facilitate some of the fastest sustained real terms growth we've seen in the postwar era, certainly since 73 and not seen since.
@TheGatesOfFire
@TheGatesOfFire 29 дней назад
@@hodgebodge it was squandered to buy the next election.
@hodgebodge
@hodgebodge 29 дней назад
@@TheGatesOfFire it allowed for well over a decade of low taxes and greater wealth for individual citizens. What would you rather the money was used for? Please don't say sovereign wealth fund
@welshskies
@welshskies 28 дней назад
@@hodgebodge Rapid unsustainable growth for some. The capital wealth of the nation was bought up by foreign interests and now we are seeing the consequences.
@anomadhunter
@anomadhunter Месяц назад
This poor chap looks like he’s going to explode.
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 27 дней назад
Just looking at the physical state of Heffer is somewhat symbolic of Britains decline and of his precious brexit. (Moaning about the working classes as 'slothful' is priceless in that regard) You don't even to think too much about his odious views and ill thought out shambolic 'logic' to wonder at what makes people sit there and listen to it. I have no idea why is deemed to be some sort of respected journo or thinker. By the way, 'Enoch Powell is the greatest man ever' . Says everything about Heffers inclinations. Powell was criticised back in the 60s by even conservative papers and Edward Heath was so appalled he dismissed him. If you are getting called 'racist' by Conservatives in 1960s - when the Black & White Minstrel show was considered accpetable TV the you can be sure you are racist. Powell was - and by elevating him to the status of 'greatest' can only suggest he is also. He's right on Johnson. Thats about it. Otherwise a waste of space.
@angusdesire
@angusdesire Месяц назад
'Arse from their elbow': in North Lanarkshire we say Boris Johnson didn't know if he was going for a shite or a haircut.
@harrying882
@harrying882 Месяц назад
Brilliant
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
Johnson and haircut in the same sentence?
@salamanders6969
@salamanders6969 Месяц назад
Boris couldn’t organize a piss up in the brewery!
@des_bloom
@des_bloom Месяц назад
The Great British brain-drain, we are loosing all the bright minds & becoming a state of grifters.. In a heartbeat I would migrate to Europe, but that opportunity sailed with Brexit
@richardwhite1120
@richardwhite1120 Месяц назад
Losing
@hannahb950
@hannahb950 29 дней назад
Terrible - EU takes many non-EU citizens yet, as you say, UK citizens cannot be included and can rarely get the ability to work in the EU. IMO if you want to work in the EU, have a skill the EU needs esp engineering and physical healthcare (higher, medium and lower level) - and don't even attempt with humanities, media, social sciences, arts etc as Europe is SO BRILLIANT in those areas... ie experienced people who can mend/fix things properly are far far far less common.
@dixiedean1955
@dixiedean1955 29 дней назад
You can still settle in some EU countries if retired or are a digital nomad
@alexiosi2646
@alexiosi2646 29 дней назад
Because the EU member states are doing sooooooo well aren't they... Especially now the US has hobbled the Euro by crippling Germany's economy.
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 27 дней назад
...and we are left with the Heffers of the world. Would that he would take a hike elsewhere.
@adriancurtin6012
@adriancurtin6012 Месяц назад
Brexit . The self inflicted wounds are the most deepest and most debilitating.We are still a generation away from another vote but maybe with a change of government at least we will start tallking to Europe again.If M.T .wanted us to leave she had 11 years to do it Brexiters ,the enemy is in Moscow not Brussels! !
@turbolevo8703
@turbolevo8703 Месяц назад
Wrong. And Putin isn’t Hitler either.
@RogueWJL
@RogueWJL Месяц назад
Enthralling and enlightening. Hearing those thoughts, views and reflections in the current political and social climate, was akin to being in the desert and finding an oasis
@christianecoughlan7392
@christianecoughlan7392 Месяц назад
Tax all dividends and chase heavens for money. ReDistribution is the best way to look after people.
@edgeyt1
@edgeyt1 Месяц назад
This video was brought to you by the tobacco industry and other secret funders.
@paulfr6768
@paulfr6768 27 дней назад
Truly bizarre to hear a Brexit supporting admirer of Powell and Thatcher say 'I believe in a compassionate society.'
@MrJohnfoster70
@MrJohnfoster70 Месяц назад
The 364 economists were proven right. As we take the Tory waters of privatisation.
@1526andrews
@1526andrews Месяц назад
Re old people, if they have houses and assets then sell them and pay for their care.
@thomasalexand
@thomasalexand Месяц назад
But they've paid their national insurance and taxes. Why must they be penalised?
@paulcassidy8130
@paulcassidy8130 Месяц назад
@@thomasalexand An ironic comment, I assume.
@importantjohn
@importantjohn Месяц назад
And if you have no assets you get your care for free?
@thomasalexand
@thomasalexand Месяц назад
@@paulcassidy8130 The nanny state encourages parasites.
@thomasalexand
@thomasalexand Месяц назад
@importantjohn Yes. Not everyone can earn the national average wage. Some people, for various reasons, can not work. But everyone should have an affordable roof over their head. This country has been broken for many years.
@roygardiner2229
@roygardiner2229 Месяц назад
For me, the most important issue by far is the very damaging high level of immigration. Its impact on culture and identity is more important than on the economy. The account of the Civil Servant asserting that "we" would stop Brexit speaks volumes. They are SERVANTS. I enjoyed the interview immensely. Mr. Heffer is simply a highly intelligent, interesting and, yes, good, man. Mr. Heffer's comments on the comparative amounts of money spent on the NHS and on defence were convincing to me. His account of Enoch Powell's encounter on the Tube was so very amusing.
@andrewwhitehead2002
@andrewwhitehead2002 Месяц назад
Entitlement, platitudes and a complete lack of awareness.
@timhill9189
@timhill9189 29 дней назад
Well said. Just the old Tory stuff of cutting welfare and anti any social market nonsense. Not an interview, no challenges to absurd claims, just a forum for grandstanding.
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
"The so called poor and the so called dispossessed", what an odious man. Look at the size of his gut, Simon Heffer doesn't appear to suffer from lack of access to food, it would take several food banks to keep that tummy tanked up.
@welshskies
@welshskies 29 дней назад
Who funds the iea?
@paulfromdevon4707
@paulfromdevon4707 29 дней назад
Heffer by name........
@philippewinston2740
@philippewinston2740 Месяц назад
How heavy is Mr Heffer ?
@MikeNewland
@MikeNewland 29 дней назад
Heffer must have a death wish with that stomach. Sorry because his biog of Powell was very good.
@christianecoughlan7392
@christianecoughlan7392 Месяц назад
Dérégulation is what cause the 2008 crash! Not a very good precedent…
@futures2247
@futures2247 Месяц назад
this is the neoliberal dream
@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961
@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961 Месяц назад
Nonsense
@kayedal-haddad
@kayedal-haddad Месяц назад
I am a good old fashioned Gladstonian Liberal!
@mediastudiesnetwork
@mediastudiesnetwork Месяц назад
Haha aren’t we all
@Multimine
@Multimine 25 дней назад
Anyone know where he got the stat regarding 70% of nhs budget going on payroll, it seems to be a significant pillar of his oppinion on the state of the nhs. From what I can tell, it's more like 45% however.
@simonbamford8441
@simonbamford8441 Месяц назад
IEA - shady, Heffer - dodgy! !
@madleon81
@madleon81 Месяц назад
Britain never reformed itself properly after WW2. How did Commonwealth embrace democracy while Britain carried on the feudal system 😢
@pauleast2905
@pauleast2905 26 дней назад
EU and the decline of Germany and other associated countries.
@opensky6580
@opensky6580 Месяц назад
Having Gladstone as a role model is like in Germany being very fond of Bismark. It feels a little bit outdated in the XXI century
@masoodahmed2041
@masoodahmed2041 Месяц назад
Also Heffer is a cricket buff which helps.
@jdg9999
@jdg9999 Месяц назад
Britain could be great again if there were leaders with real vision for the future. We can either be shitty 2nd world neoliberal social democracy, with a small super wealthy elite based on finance on London, and the rest of the world an open borders third world dumping ground to bring in low wage labour. Or we could have a future oriented nationalist government that would combine serious governance (no more feckless deficit spending and waste on current spending rather than capital investment), a realist foreign policy (cooperate with Russia, China and other emerging economies in synergy instead of yapping about "democracy promotion" as part of the American empire, divert defence spending almost entirely to the nacy to focus on protecting our commercial interests and defending the home islands), and a third position economic policy (let the market take care of things where we have a compeititve advantage like finance and luxury goods, while the state finances things we could be great again in with state investment, and which we have natural potential amd synergies for for, like shipbuilding, merchant shipping etc).
@markferguson7563
@markferguson7563 Месяц назад
(*** A.S. So sorry to tell you, JDG, but Britain is way, way past the point of ever being great again. To glaringly ascertain that reality merely requires viewing any of the RU-vidr's who travel to cities and towns in the country exposing the hopeless, and hapless state of affairs. ***) ********************************************* Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris. I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP. The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also. However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations. Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.
@robertjohnstone718
@robertjohnstone718 Месяц назад
One could tell oneself that he’s just mistaken about the practical effects of his economic approach - though he’s notably contemptuous of the idea that the state should help people. That is, until he tells us his hero, the greatest person he’s known, is Enoch Powell. Powell, the toxic racist and imperialist, who made life worse for tens of thousands of Asian and Afro-Caribbean people, who betook himself to Northern Ireland to bolster the retrogressive bigots of the Unionist Party. The economic talk is directed towards the sort of society he wants, and presumably the one he thinks Powell wanted. It’s by no means as cuddly and reasonable as he (and the iea, it seems) would pretend.
@chrismaxwell1610
@chrismaxwell1610 Месяц назад
What a load of right-wing nonsense, more if we would just be more right-wing from the people who have got everything they wanted for 15 years.
@julianchase95
@julianchase95 Месяц назад
Regarding the “culture war” at around 14.00 David Starkey’s recent ncf speech was magnificent. He sees it not really as a culture war but as a political, legal and constitutional war kicked off by Blair’s disastrous reforms. Well worth watching: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ClDrkcSfKjk.htmlsi=XUU-8PYWjH9mM1dY
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Месяц назад
It's always Blair...
@th8257
@th8257 29 дней назад
David Starkey is a fruit cake
@derekwhite2929
@derekwhite2929 Месяц назад
Still trying to find some benefit from the infected blood stuff coming out myself!
@MatthewsIanJ
@MatthewsIanJ 25 дней назад
I missed something: how does this guy love Thatcher but embrace Brexit?
@davidscott5209
@davidscott5209 Месяц назад
As long as the urban professional class dominates parliament nothing positive will occur.
@norbarellis
@norbarellis Месяц назад
52:30: "The limits on what people could put into their pensions were removed" err... what?!
@akpanekpo6025
@akpanekpo6025 Месяц назад
This is revisionism at its most disingenuous, and very typical of a hard-right Tory and Brexiteer. First, he fails to acknowledge any connection between the man-made tragedy we experience today (as exemplified by human excrement in our waters) and 40-plus years of Thatcherism, in contrast with Germany which managed to become Europe's economic powerhouse while essentially remaining a socialist economy - complete with trades union bosses in corporate boardrooms until it committed economic suicide by rejecting cheap Russian gas - but I digress). He also fails to acknowledge that it was his beloved Brexit (itself a pet Thatcherite project) that produced the literal kakistocracy that he disparages. Some day, Thatcherism was going to fulfil its mission, and it has succeeded spectacularly. I just wish its proponents (which include New Labour - not least because it was infamously Thatcher's "greatest achievement") would have the decency to acknowledge the error of their ways.
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 28 дней назад
As a progressive liberal (if that is not oxymoronic), this was a wonderful conversation with a dour though earnest conservative whose views represent those elite who were born with a golden foot in their mouth (or had privileged access to economic opportunities) and have never experienced the vicissitudes of life. Nonetheless, I enjoyed listening to his views on how Britain has evolved over the last forty or fifty years!
@bbbf09
@bbbf09 27 дней назад
As another progressive liberal myself - I did not enjoy hearing about his priveleged life - nor of description of racist Enoch Powell as 'the greatest of men'. Feel sick after listening to him and need a shower.
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 27 дней назад
@@bbbf09 I understand where you are coming from!
@adriancurtin6012
@adriancurtin6012 Месяц назад
Policies not the people of course!
@danielrobertson8774
@danielrobertson8774 29 дней назад
For the most part I don't disagree, with the exception of state debts. Sunak has brought the UK down to European levels with an acceptance that debt is OK at 90%+. That madness on top of idiocy. At most we can maintain 40% debt. So the Conservatives and SNP need to suffer, as they keen eternally delaying big private sector projects. A tunnel under the Thames costs money. A small nuclear reactor generates money.
@philipcurnow7990
@philipcurnow7990 Месяц назад
Not really a Renaissance man after hearing that list and the Cambridge name check. An insider for sure. But well worth listening to that's for sure.
@First_Principals
@First_Principals Месяц назад
Solutions need to be solved at the correct level of abstraction. Global Continent Country Region/State Town/City/Vilage Borough Neighbourhood Community Family Individuals
@stevealba4599
@stevealba4599 Месяц назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:13 *🗳️ Simon Heffer criticizes Boris Johnson's cabinet, calling it the worst since 1721.* 01:05 *📚 Simon Heffer is introduced as a historian and a prominent conservative commentator.* 02:00 *🎓 Simon Heffer recalls his first visit to the Institute of Economic Affairs in 1981.* 02:53 *📖 Simon Heffer shares a memorable encounter with Friedrich Hayek during his early years.* 04:05 *💡 Heffer describes his political and economic philosophy as Gladstonian liberalism.* 05:14 *📰 Heffer discusses the transformation of the Conservative Party from a Tory to a centrist or Gladstonian liberal entity.* 06:10 *🥀 Heffer criticizes recent Conservative leaders, calling the party factionalized and in shock.* 07:17 *🔄 Heffer believes the Conservative Party went wrong after Margaret Thatcher's removal and the lack of succession planning.* 08:24 *📉 Heffer describes the ongoing division in the Conservative Party since 1988 and its impact.* 10:54 *🇪🇺 Heffer explains how Brexit and the handling of it have caused further division within the Conservative Party.* 12:47 *🐶 Heffer suggests the Conservative Party needs a significant defeat to allow for rebuilding.* 13:29 *⏳ Heffer doubts the Conservative Party will resolve its issues within five years, emphasizing the depth of the internal conflict.* 14:09 *🎭 Heffer criticizes the current government's handling of culture wars and migration issues.* 16:13 *🛑 Heffer warns of potential challenges within the Labour Party regarding anti-Semitism and economic policies.* 18:05 *🎯 Heffer calls for a new Conservative leader with a clear vision to effectively oppose Labour and SNP.* 19:25 *📉 Heffer foresees a potential financial crisis under Labour, stressing the need for a rigorous monetary policy.* 20:21 *🧓 Heffer emphasizes the importance of addressing the challenges of an aging population and state spending pressures.* 23:44 *🏡 Simon Heffer discusses the need for families to take more responsibility for elder care rather than relying on state support.* 25:06 *💸 Heffer argues for lower taxes to encourage personal responsibility and planning for future care.* 26:16 *💡 Heffer mentions the need to transition from a welfare state to a welfare society, emphasizing self-help and mutual aid.* 27:37 *🗳️ Heffer reflects on the Conservative government's failure to reform the welfare state since Thatcher's time.* 28:03 *⚖️ Heffer criticizes institutional resistance to change within the Civil Service, hindering governmental reforms.* 28:17 *📚 Heffer discusses the "blob" as described by Liz Truss, referring to the entrenched bureaucratic resistance to reform.* 29:09 *🚫 Heffer harshly critiques Boris Johnson's cabinet, calling it the worst in British history.* 30:16 *🏛️ Heffer emphasizes the need for competent politicians with real-world experience to effectively govern.* 32:18 *🗂️ Heffer shares a story about a senior civil servant vowing to stop Brexit, highlighting the power and resistance of the Civil Service.* 35:18 *🇬🇧 Heffer talks about the need for Britain to recalibrate its expectations and work ethic to stay competitive globally.* 37:17 *💼 Heffer discusses the importance of encouraging hard work and innovation to maintain economic prosperity.* 39:05 *🏦 Heffer expresses concern over the potential rise of corporatism and state capitalism, rather than socialism or communism.* 40:03 *📊 Heffer compares current economic policies to those of the Heath government, warning against excessive state interference.* 41:40 *⏲️ Heffer warns that the welfare state can eventually lead to a totalitarian state if left unchecked.* 42:20 *🏋️ Heffer calls for a cultural shift towards personal responsibility and away from dependency on state support.* 43:43 *📜 Heffer draws historical lessons from the abolition of Corn Laws, advocating for deregulation and incentivizing innovation.* 46:52 *🗳️ Heffer criticizes Theresa May's attempt to address social care funding during a weak political moment, leading to her "dementia tax" proposal's failure.* 48:00 *🚫 Heffer emphasizes the need for political strength to implement significant social changes.* 48:54 *🌟 Heffer hopes the Labour Party will address social care funding if elected, stressing that individuals must contribute to their own care.* 50:00 *💰 Heffer discusses the need for reform in public sector pensions, advocating for increased private pension contributions.* 51:53 *🏦 Heffer supports removing limits on pension savings to encourage private provision over state reliance.* 52:49 *⚠️ Heffer criticizes Boris Johnson's missed opportunity to reform post-Brexit and expresses support for Sunak's attempts to address issues.* 54:38 *🎩 Heffer comments on Cameron's suitability as Foreign Secretary and highlights the need for robust foreign and defense policies.* 56:10 *⚔️ Heffer argues for increased defense spending, stressing the importance of balancing welfare and defense priorities.* 57:52 *🛡️ Heffer criticizes the bureaucratic nature of the NHS and calls for better allocation of resources to essential services.* 59:14 *🗣️ Heffer advocates for reforming candidate selection to ensure competent individuals with real-world experience enter politics.* 01:03:12 *🏛️ Heffer emphasizes the need for a traditional governing class with public service values and practical experience.* 01:04:05 *📊 Heffer reflects on the importance of having experienced advisors in government to avoid mistakes.* 01:05:01 *🇺🇸 Heffer expresses concern about the 2024 US presidential candidates, predicting potential instability regardless of the outcome.* 01:07:19 *🌍 Heffer worries about the international implications of the US presidential election and potential civil unrest.* 01:07:35 *🎤 Heffer shares an anecdote about Margaret Thatcher, highlighting her strong personality and focus on current affairs even after leaving office.* 01:09:13 *😮 Heffer recounts an interaction with a senior Conservative who surprisingly suggested Jacob Rees-Mogg as the next party leader.* 01:10:10 *🚇 Simon Heffer recounts a humorous anecdote with Enoch Powell on the London Underground, highlighting Powell's humility and wit.* 01:11:17 *📚 Heffer praises Enoch Powell's intellectual achievements and influence on conservative economic policy.* 01:12:39 *💬 Heffer criticizes David Cameron's "Big Society" rhetoric as lacking commitment to reducing the state's role and promoting individual advancement.* 01:13:59 *🏥 Heffer emphasizes the importance of auditing the NHS to reduce unnecessary roles and cut taxes by shrinking the state payroll.* 01:14:41 *💷 Heffer recalls watching Kwasi Kwarteng's budget announcement and criticizing the lack of explanation on funding the proposed tax cuts.* 01:15:08 *📉 Heffer emphasizes that maintaining market confidence requires clear financial planning, unlike the approach taken by Kwarteng and Truss.* 01:16:12 *📈 Heffer reminisces about Thatcher's approach to tax cuts, highlighting her method of balancing the books and offering choice to the public.* 01:16:25 *🗳️ Heffer doubts a Labour government will cut the welfare state, urging a conversation about the scope and limits of welfare provision.* 01:16:53 *🏡 Heffer points out the positive changes since 1945, such as increased homeownership and private pensions, advocating for a focus on self-reliance.* Made with HARPA AI
@m.bowyer5045
@m.bowyer5045 29 дней назад
A serious dinner?...i can see heffer certainly likes those🤣
@jonathanweeks9925
@jonathanweeks9925 29 дней назад
A Hefferlump?
@michaelpalmer4387
@michaelpalmer4387 Месяц назад
Businesses in China are hardly free to carry on how they see fit.
@eriktopolsky8531
@eriktopolsky8531 Месяц назад
Torries are preparing for war, but they never asked British boters what they want... let them know on 4th of July
@charlesbruggmann7909
@charlesbruggmann7909 Месяц назад
A ‘low tax’ economy is a pipe dream as long as the NHS exists. So, when will the Tory party have the guts to stand on a platform of either abolishing it or financing it through private insurance. PS: the Armed Forces need an absolute minimum of an extra £10bn pa.
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 Месяц назад
Well said - when one reads that other comparable nations have lower taxes, the reason is that they do not have the NHS to pay for, or a bloated Social Welfare bill. As for the NHS, if it's so damn brilliant, how come no other country on earth copies the same model of keeping its people healthy ?
@simony2801
@simony2801 Месяц назад
Let's not do that
@peterteagleteagle9958
@peterteagleteagle9958 Месяц назад
So we haven't got any money to look after pensioners, but we got money for asylum sleekers, that's makes sense
@th8257
@th8257 29 дней назад
Eh? Pensioners are the only people in the UK with any money
@jagchahal1393
@jagchahal1393 Месяц назад
Look at things in uk, i dispair for our childrens future.
@michelodonnell7240
@michelodonnell7240 Месяц назад
Is the British political system obsolete?
@ianstevenson3628
@ianstevenson3628 29 дней назад
Tom King stood down in 2001
@brightonduder
@brightonduder Месяц назад
Proper journalism Unfortunately Simon is as common these days as hens teeth
@susansantapola
@susansantapola 29 дней назад
Woulf be interested to know who funds this organisation.
@paulwilson2651
@paulwilson2651 Месяц назад
There is no "British Politics! only English as what England says goes!
@GrumpyPumpy
@GrumpyPumpy Месяц назад
Not true! Was Gordon Brown an English Prime Minister? Was he working for England alone?
@robertritchie2860
@robertritchie2860 28 дней назад
Cutting taxes leads to a poor structural and social environment: health, infrastructure. UK has become a crappy place to live. As long as this is continuously championed the country will never raise itself.
@davidl9771
@davidl9771 26 дней назад
Taxes have gone up and up and up and up. yet everything has gone to shit regardless.
@importedmusic
@importedmusic Месяц назад
Keeping a central bank like the BOE makes absolutely sure that Brexit was the right idea.
@bulentosmane
@bulentosmane Месяц назад
Thatcher a great PM? he lost me there.
@mesolithicman164
@mesolithicman164 Месяц назад
I know what you mean but at least she had a vision. And was willing to be unpopular to get things done.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Месяц назад
​​@@mesolithicman164 she started the international finance take over of Britain. The ultimate anti small c conservative.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Месяц назад
She let international finance capture and hollow out Britain
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Месяц назад
Did you just join to make that comment?
@paulcassidy8130
@paulcassidy8130 Месяц назад
Not just great, but the greatest since WW2.
@malcolmboyd3503
@malcolmboyd3503 Месяц назад
Mr. Heffer is brilliant
@th8257
@th8257 29 дней назад
He's an eccentric crank
@stephen25uk
@stephen25uk 29 дней назад
He loses credibility for me when he complains that Johnson´s appalling cabinet was the worst in history. Of course it was! it was deliberate. Johnson and Cummings would not appoint competent people of integrity. They needed to surround themselves with ministers equally as vacuous and immoral as themselves.
@damianbutterworth2434
@damianbutterworth2434 26 дней назад
The EU is turning right wing. Us Brexiteers might join up again if they do.
@jnielson1121
@jnielson1121 27 дней назад
Also: whof funds the IEA and why won't you tell anyone? WHO FUNDS THE IEA?
@VintageSoloHarmony
@VintageSoloHarmony 29 дней назад
Beds Baths & Beyond was a private for profit business that went bankrupt. Not a great title. Is Simon arguing for 100% inheritance tax, or for tax reductions? Confusing. At least he talks about society, which is not supposed to exist, no such thing.
@adriancurtin6012
@adriancurtin6012 Месяц назад
Keith Stammer & Angelia Rayner are strange bedfellows. Tories need to attack this open goal.
@davidholloway1776
@davidholloway1776 Месяц назад
I'm with Simon on a lot. Most. But the idea that Trump belongs in prison is for the birds. A silly comment.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Месяц назад
He is an example of why the Torys have lost the working class.
@IssacharGR
@IssacharGR Месяц назад
Yes indeed - Trump is the best hope western democracies have...in reversing the elite globalist agendas. Trump is a conduit for popilism...Surely popular ideas in the population - are the policies that 'the elites should be enacting?
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Месяц назад
@@evolassunglasses4673 - You have to actually work to be classified as 'Working Class' - Benefits don't count!
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 Месяц назад
@@jstewart4205What would you call someone who claims benefits then? Or do you think they shouldn’t vote at all?
@markferguson7563
@markferguson7563 Месяц назад
Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris. I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP. The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also. However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations. Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.
@platexproductions
@platexproductions Месяц назад
That is an unfortunate name…
@charlesvanderhoog7056
@charlesvanderhoog7056 28 дней назад
At 10:07 we hear another loony who thinks that Britain is as important and as strong as the EU. It is this kind of conviction (of still living in 1880) that gave us Brexit.
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