The Future Of Tent Design? - Samaya 2.0 First Look Review 

I remember a few months ago saying that everybody looking for a 4 season tent should be looking for your opinion. Now it seems, to me at least, that a brand is also willing to rest part of its own image in your opinion, and not any brand but one whose tents retail all above 1k euros. I think that is only fair and up to theh quality of your videos. I'm genuinely happy for you. I hope this is only the first of them and that the numbers in your channel keep growing. Cant wait to see that tent in high winds. Regards from Argentina. (sorry my English btw)

Kudos Tom, for another outdoor company entrusting you to honestly rate their gear. I can’t wait to see this tent tested in rain and wind! It will be very interesting! Phil

Also, I highly recommend the ground sheet on this. DCF is great but extremely prone to rupture and catching fire. I ordered their ground sheet which is not made with DCF. There is absolutely no moisture even during cold -5 nights I’ve spent in it. This is a great tent and a little vestibule space will make it perhaps the best 4 season single skin

Thanks for the video, I'll look forward to seeing the weather testing!

Looking forward to you putting the tent through it's paces and letting us know. Great video as always BTW

Like I've said, it's not the condensation, it's where the condensation ends up. Tom, that guy I DM'd you about got it figured out. He bought a Rogen!

Hi Tom it’s really a futuristic tent I like the ventilation on top of the tent and I think that it would be the best method to handle condensation, you should try out the tent in humid conditions without wind. To check the breathable fabric.

Hi Tom. I was quite hard on the the previous model in my comments, but I can really appreciate this tent for what it’s intended purpose is. As you said it’s a very focused alpine bivvy style tent. So that comes with a minimal footprint. However I can see the additional design thought that had been input to this tent over comparable bivvy style tents from black diamond, rab or MSR. The ventilation options look considerably better, as do the storage options, and it’s a lot lighter than say a black diamond eldorado. It looks a brilliant bit of kit for its intended design use. It will be interesting to see it in some wind and rain. Given our climate as you said, you won’t struggle to find either! Cheers Gary

Glad you got this, Tom. I’ve used this one in recent wintery conditions in Lake District. Works like a charm. Looking forward to detailed field test. One thing I found is cooking or lack of vestibule space. If it is raining, which it often does in UK, it could be a problem. So good you have a vestibule. I thought it was nullifying the advantage of light weight tent to add 500gm vestibule.

"I'll find wind from somewhere" - haha. I bet you know a spot or two! Looks like a cool tent but will be too small for me and I think it's a bit too small for you too (if you add a mat, pillow and sleeping bag... This one reminds me of that TNF alpine tent - also with a vestibule. Thanks for sharing Tom!

Great video Tom, there are quite a few design features I like but you would expect that for the cost, thanks mate.

If the Samaya functions in summer with the bug/mesh, this could be a tent for all seasons in Norway, and supplant the need I have now for many tents. I would like though, to know if the vestibule could be connected to or stay connected without using the poles. If not, it must be assemled using gloves, which in that case have to be easy. Winter conditions in Scandinavia dictate using a fluid driven multifuel burner, so the vestibule is a must. To me, this tent must be the Hilleberg Tarra and Rogen combined if I'm gonna buy it. I would advise Samaya to do a full pitch video where they display clipping on the mesh and the vestibule. Great review as always, Tom.

Nice one Tom - the tent looks great; feature rich and well put together. Great to hear about the video call with the company too - looking forward to some classic Heaney brutal wind testing with it mate - ATB, Chris

Why are tent makers so resistant to making tents big enough for the British market? Plenty of people keep asking for longer / taller tents. Just add 30cm on the end tent makers; it's not rocket science, for goodness sakes.

I would definitely use that tent , it looks suitable for an Irish winter on the tops . I'm looking forward to see you putting it through its paces . Like your Millet top BTW 👌

My favourite spaceship :) Thanks for this review. The weight makes it really interesting.

The Black Diamond El Dorado is super breathable. Been using one for 15 years.

Tim, just a recent viewer of your channel and from the same 'neck of the woods' as you. I like your thorough reviews.. I don't know what the future of single skin tents is because tent buyers have never gravitated towards a single ' way forward' The people who camp are everything from the basic happy campers to the informed, savvy hikers and everything in between. Add to this affordability and you are into another discussion Right now in this double skin world I'm looking for a tent that can pitch ground mat/inner/ outer all in one go. I'm only looking for a three season tent..I can't pay a fortune because family and keeping my head above water come first. But I still like to get out...and my Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 ticks the boxes for what I want time and time again. It's not a Hilleberg, but just fine for what I want. For as long as there is development choice or China can be allowed to rob and duplicate alternatives there will be a future for tents of different types and at different price points. Nice tent. If it takes off I guarantee there will be a clone in 18 months or less, which for 80+% of users at a lower price and with minimal compromise will be just fine. Just my tuppence worth..

Cheers Tom, I'm waiting for the full usage test, condensation, etc. As some one commented, could do with being a bit longer.

They have it going on now. That's a superlight tent especially for motorcycle and any other camping. One thought I have is I would like to see the vestibule built on the original tent. Hardly ever have I not needed one. Most all but not all have them as part of the fly or body. My old Eureka 4 person has an add on unit. Never an issue but that much more to deal with in a fast set up scenario. Do the side doors have a mesh panel to keep bugs out? I like that tent. The lower portion is extended for snow or rain runoff. That's good. Got to like the built in storage. Many should do that. If nothing else I hope other manufacturers take note of this design and incorporate some of the best into there's. Always room for improvement. Take care Tom. Be safe out there.

big interesting to see the pack size+weight in your tent reviews. Great reviews, but the pack size is important and seems to be something that assent covered

I'm getting a liking for these tents Tom,I'll wait for the full on wind challenge first.Like the hat and wallet,its these little differences that go along way with some customers.Hope there customer service is as good. ATB,and thanks for the hard work👍👍

Looking forward to the real world test as I’ve been looking at this tent. As an alpine tent it would be fine in dry snow so the canopy etc in heavy rain should be interesting.

If they made more stealth colors i for sure get it

Hi Tom, it’s taken me a couple of days to catch up with this video (sorry). What a great combination of technologies, from the pegs through to the modular DCF vestibule. A brand that is certainly looking to revolutionise tent design! Now get out there and test it 👍 I’m pretty sure it’s a robust and weathertight shelter. I was a little puzzled by the vestibule valance, I assume it’s a snow valance, but it didn’t quite reach the ground - does it need to be longer / wider? Anyway great video 🎉

An interesting video. I can't say I'm convinced by single wall tents. Possibly, some of this is with me starting out with canvas tents in the 70's. Touch it and it leaks until you run it down to the floor. With an inner, it keeps you and your bag away from the condensation on the outer. Almost all nights I'm touching the inner at some point. That tent doesn't look big enough for me, I'm 5'11" with a very long back. I think you'd get away with that size with 2 skins but not one.

Too early to jump on these tents for me but I will keep my eye on them. My 2 UL tents right now are the Zpacks Duplex and the Zpacks freeduo which are about half the price of these and half the weight as well. I like what I see so far but durability is a big question here and only time will tell.

Tom hi, I really enjoy your vlogs even though I will probably never camp again. I'm just so interested in gear and you do such a great job of describing and rating gear. I would like to know what tent you would use/prefer in heavy, Heavy rain? ( Or would you just stay home like me,) Thank you for such good entertainment.

Like it Tom, and great illustration of the tent, not clear about how much secondary door or vent mesh there was, so just for the m8dge free areas/seasons?

Looks a proper contender Tom. Hope they let you keep it mate.

Good video, Tom. Very impressive performance fabrics it appears to be when you mentioned their specs. One thing that confused me was when you lay down in the tent, were you laying in the cross section of the tent or length section of the tent? It did not appear that you had very much space at all just on the floor without a mat under you. Thanks for the information on this tent. I looked them up and see they do have a recent presence here in the states.

Great looking tent - but at that price it ought to be 😱😱😱

Hi Tom. In your experience would it have been better if they went with 9mm poles ? or do you think the 8.5mm is enough for high weather conditions ? Its a very tiny minority that have a real love for tents. I as well am in that club. When someone infers testing a tent to its limits why does it bring a smile to my face and engenders the thought of a memory of a lifetime ha ? Love your detailed critics. They are not going unappreciated.

I really considered this tent, but decided against it because of the super thin and fragile floor (apparently). Plus, I found a nice deal on a jannu as well. Very different tent, but much more versatile and can be used on every kind of ground, not only snow

While this and the Alpine version are basically lighter and more poised versions of existing tent design, I actually think the 3.0 looks like the most interesting tent Samaya do. It is big enough and I assume bombproof given the weight. 3 sets of breath however, is a lot for the single skin. Condensation and ventilation (your least favourite topic Tom I know) is the million dollar question for all these tents

Oh Tom, don't make me buy another tent...especially one that costs over 1k. 🤣 It looks really interesting and I love the single skin concept, so long as it works effectively. I have to say, I thought the same as you at first glance, it looks rather cosy for a two person tent, however I guess not having a fly makes it look deceptively small. I do love the modular nature of it too. Maybe a future replacement for my Stone Glacier Skyscraper. 🤔 Look forward to seeing how you get on with it.

Looks like a great tent, but not sure it's in my budget. Be interesting to see if things stored in that outer pocket stay dry and don't stop of fabric breathing. I'd be very impressed if they do stay dry and condensation isn't a problem. Cheers.

In my experience all tents sleep fewer people than the tent company indicates their tent is designed for. The Samaya looks like a really cool tent. Did you say it was modular in the initial video?

Hey there. Q: The two larger D-shaped zippered vents / windows at the top of the front and back wall: They do not have any mesh layer? So you just unzip them entirely and bugs etc can still get in? I know these are designed for snowy weather, but just checking.

At 8.20 you say about extra mesh can you explain more about that feature

The real test will be for multiday use when the weather is poor. Overnight im sure its fine but every tent (bar DCF) will wet out eventually.... Lightwave do the same sort of tent and it too wets out after a few days.

Hi Tom,i would like to ask a question, you've answered my questions in the past,so i hope you'll see this one also. Is there a substantial difference in weather performance between this tent and the Assaut 8k that you've tested. I can see that the weight between them is different even though they look similar. And also,can the vestibule be left attached to this tent for easier setup next time,or not? Thanks 🙏

Hello Tom, I’m from Scandinavia. We do have a lot of bugs in our nature. Do you think this tent it is a good choice for a Scandinavium nature? I’m thinking there is no mesh wall option… Thanks, I do really appreciate you videos! :)

Very much reminds me of some of the tents made by crux who use single skin carbon impregnated X-tec fabric.

Hey Tom your mic is always very muffle, not sure if ur aware of it or not

Hi Tom. Can I ask what your thoughts are when comparing the Hilleberg Unna to this Samaya 2.0. They are both very similar with the doors being on the long side. If you had to choose which tent would you go with and why?

2 Doors, 2 vestibules, 88” long, 51” wide, 3lbs, and only $400USD…I’ll stick with the Nemo Dragonfly for now I think.

Often times tent designs endeavoring to mix & mate such different materials of such dissimilar properties have several consequential reliability issues... as well as likelihood for reduced longevity. I'm not at all a fan of the top pole (the way it appears to connect), and very much dislike the 'bonnet' topper cover. For this kind of niche... I rather have two doors at either long end (ie. no side entry), and it would be more applicable for alpine ridge and shelf running. I would not recommend this type of overall design having just single side entry. I'd likely skip the side attaching accessory vestibule. For Clarity: It was not quite clear how (both) poles go into sleeves. What's demonstrated pretty well is the 'black' end going into the one sleeve. However... is it an only 1-way entry into sleeve that terminates into a pocket or grommet? What do the pole tip end-components look like? For example and important especially when solo in demanding conditions: Can you 1st peg out stake loops at the terminating ends 'wind-side' (both corners of highest exposure secured)... then drive black ends through sleeves as you face into winds from leeward side... then pole tips placed in grommets??? In my experience going solo, this is where Slingfin Hotbox got it right (grommets on all corners) --- but keep in mind unlike Samaya 2.0 --- his sleeve is functionally (and really) an enhanced clip-in-system that is highly suitable.... ALSO... Todd Bibbler (way back when, though internally structured and no sleeves) got it right with I-tent (ie. secure windward exposure end, climb in, place pole ends to back corners, suck pole's door ends into corners, hop out to secure rest of tent.

I've gotten rid of my DCF fabric tent because it is terrible at abrasion resistence. If a rock even looks at the tent, it'll tear.

Great use of materials. Way too small though. Without a pad or bag, reviewer's head and feet are both hitting the ends. What if one is 6'5"? Never heard short people complain about tent being too long; they can always store things in any spare tent-length. One-inch too-short and the tent is useless to a tall-person. Zpacks and Durston both recognized they were losing valuable customers, so they've extended the length of most of their new products and are thriving. Tarptent and others are declining by only catering to little-people. Would also love to see the first pole-connector bent 35° to make room for pads/bags at the ends.

Such an expensive tent with a DCF floor? That surely isn't the future of tents, except maybe on snow.

Wow! Not at that price. Period. No vestibule is a deal breaker in any modern tent.

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Price is a one big joke. Far too overpriced. It's good on flat grass but up hill with rocks and high wind pointless.