The Game Is Ruined 

Thats fucking crazy 🤣

shame we can't play them again, pretty sure Jake Bidwell would like to mark him.......and probably put him into row z

Pretty much what you'd expect from someone that's only a threat to women in clubs.

Pretty sure that was to mock Haji who did the same thing when he scored

​@@akacocox2365don't let context ruin a good moan

At least we don't use French units of measurement 🤮

@@danielhavoc889 u mad bruh?

​@@danielhavoc889Thanks to the American education system, you can't. 😂

I believe the measurement you are referring to is freedom units 🦅

The NFL uses yards and inches. Clown.

Literally the last video he made on the Chelsea city game it was “get more cameras get more angles” “look at this angle it shows the handball” now it’s “oh it’s only from this angle you can see an offside” “how dare var call a barley offside goal offside”. Do yall want var to correct decisions or not? I understand var makes it more frustrating when obvious calls are ignored, does that apply to genuine calls you find “harsh” because it’s close as well? What’s var for?

​@@MarDuBronxbut the line was over his foot. It was wrongly drawn. I ofcourse don't know if it's the exact right frame the pass is played or not but it's the frame they used.

@@johanhalvarsson2148 I’m literally looking at the thumbnail, yea the blue line is going over AWBs toes, that’s where the blue is supposed to be, and you can clearly see the tip of wrights boot is touching the red line barley, it’s off. I don’t think it would’ve been more “beautiful” if they won off that, they had a coin flip chance to legitimately win the game and their captain skied it. It is what it is.

@@MarDuBronx What!? no! the lines should be drawn at the very edge of the most forward part of each player. why would it be done on the middle of the toes on one player and at the edge on the other? And why only for the big team?

@@johanhalvarsson2148 I really don’t think it’s in the middle of his toes… anyways the angle he’s choose to show is weird af, AWB foot looks as long as his leg. And even then it’s clear AWB doesn’t touch the red line where as wrights does

I cannot imagine your pain. You were absolutely robbed and your team fought like true champions to win that game. All I can say is City will probably put a beating on Man Utd in the final if that gives you anything to salvage from it.

ill never ever stop saying that coventry won that game and i support neither team, coventry embarassed united, we all saw it.

man utd did not deserve that win, Coventry are the real winners here, hope to see you guys in the prem in the next few years so you can get your revenge

Don’t worry buddy, VAR will measure it in no time

I'm a bristol city fan I feel so sorry for you united did not deserve to win that game

Coventry wasn't betrayed, people are just bitter that their underdog story didn't come true. It was offside.

If I'm the FA and I have to choose between an underdog story of an unknown club that's no 8 on EFL and the Manchester Derby for the FA final, I'll choose the Manchester Derby. Yes, We know that like Coventry, Man United is gonna get slaughtered as well in the final so why not make the most of 💰 while they're at it? Sponsors will love it, fans worldwide will prefer to watch that one more anyway. That's why the VAR has every reason to check and intervene

That's literally the exact opposite of what the people who have been complaining about this want

But there will be no chip in the ball, so it will rely on Var to make the final decision if necessary

@@lllllllll772 Well they shouldn't be. Rules are rules and they shouldn't be broken to make some cinderella story come true. If someone is offside, it's offside. It's almost like not wanting goal-line tech so we can get more of this so caled "soul" of the game back. If we have the technology to get some decision 100% correct within seconds like this offside or goal-line it would be studpid not to want it implemented. We might just throw a coin who wins if we don't care about the correct results. Hell, this goal-line tech should be extended for all the outlines of the field...

​@ElEmElEkv13 yeah I don't understand this argument. It's better to make sure the right calls are made.

But are we going to pretend that the automated system only has microns of error?

Well its getting implemented next season

Yup, yet all the noise is about how United *should've* lost to an offside goal (offside is offside regardless of by how far, with current laws), with no one making much noise about how Bissakas penalty was given against United but not against City or Everton for the same incident (actually more of a handball for grealish since he was in the wall imo)

Coz it's just anti-Man UTD agenda

Why would they complain about the penalty. It’s a pen, and if your gonna bring up Everton and chelsea games those were also handballs and if not for complete fucking bozo refs or just straight up cheating refs then they would be pens too

That's what the Laws of the Game say: "a clear and obvious error"

We got to see in India. It's on the broadcaster not FA Cup.

blind?

Evident cheating with the daft angle. Attacker should have had advantage anyway

@@marcbrisbane6800 “evident cheating” ahhaahhah

@@callumjb7668 i couldnt care less about english football btw, ur obviously a strange little man utd fan though. Why show it at a daft angle 🤔 exactly. Should have been a goal. Ur as embarrassing as antony

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@@Middagetten alobhgrob my friend 👽

Bogos binted

@@no_justno pingas

@@dweeep03 binted indeed😢

the refs confused faces when it was deemed off-side was hilarious, nobody thought it was offside, even untd's manager saw it was onside. Coventry deffo robbed here.

That's diabolical

Chesterfield mentioned 🔥🔥🔥 But seriously though we got robbed in that game. A huge shame

I'm also a United fan and yes. People really love their underdog stories and are willing to disregard rules, just so they get their win. Plus, THAT didn't cost Coventry the match: conceding 3 goals and missing 2 penalties did, but people fixate on that one moment and criticise a call that was correct. Like it or not, it was correct.

​@@octavianpopescu47761. The lines weren't drawn correctly 2. VAR should not have intervened. It was not a clear and obvious error

@@gaffer2602 I see that VAR intervenes at every goal scored at the Euros, as it should. A lot of unfair decisions were prevented thanks to it. As for the "lines weren't drawn correctly"... it's the first time I hear of this. It's done by computer and sure, mistakes may happen, but it's unlikely. The decision is fair. Slightly offside is still offside.

Agree. They always seem to get it "right" in moments like these but then they go on to make the wildest call for the easiest decision a week later.

According to the Laws of the Game, that's what should happen, especially if the on field officials don't flag it

That’s life

I remember the garnacho goal vs arsenal, so I felt kind bad for coventry.

You'd still have the same issue, except that instead of looking for the tip of his toe, you'd be looking for his back heel to determine if he was fully offside. The rule would still refer to the same question "how much of his body is in a certain position related to the second to last opposing player?" I think a bigger problem is the moment taken into account: the moment the ball is passed. Because the referees have to look at 2 things instead of just 1 thing: the moment the ball is hit, so eyes on the ball, but also the position of the attacking player when the ball is hit, so eyes on both the ball and the player. I think it would be easier if instead of the position of the player when the pass is initiated, people would look at the position of the player when he receives/touches the ball. That way, refs could look at one thing, since both the ball and the player would be in the same place.

@@octavianpopescu4776 i agree the problem continues, but i do consider there'll be less iterations in general. It is not a definitive solution, but, in my eyes, a good enough temporary patch for the problem

It's offside, but VAR shouldn't have overruled the on field decision

That's how it should be used, according to IFAB. It's always misused, though

Or the full body part, instead of the smallest margins

People don't care because they don't really care about it in principle, they care about it when it messes with a story they would have liked to see play out.

It's a good idea, but should only be used when the reasoning for the decision isn't obvious, like the clip that went viral recently where it was onside, but there was a foul in the buildup

Where the lines are drawn and which frame is frozen is left to the discretion of the VAR officials, who also have to guess the exact millisecond the ball leaves the foot of the passing player, and not a single person before VAR would have thought that Coventry goal should be disallowed. VAR has changed the definition of offside - it was never intended to applied to the width of a toenail, which is why everyone used to always say that you give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker. If you can't tell the difference between that Coventry goal and Thierry Henry at home against Man Utd in 2002-03, we are watching a different sport.

I mean, on the playground you can be a good yard or 2 off and itll count idk if we want that lmao

You're totally correct with why VAR was brought in, and that's still how it should be used, according to IFAB

He literally spent a minute talking about MLB umpires.

Skinny? 😅 Joking boss sorry

Like the penalty on AWB

@@thalente8074 The ref gave the pen, so VAR changed nothing in that regard

@@explodethebomb yeah but the inconsistencies in VAR has ruined so many games this season

Also, with offside there is a clear black and white, you are either offside or you are not offside. How come handballs aren't the same. The ball either hits a hand or arm, or it doesn't and if the ball hits the arm in the box, it's a penalty. Simple, instead the subjective opinion of the referee comes into it and gives the Wan-Bisakka handball as a pen and not the Grealish handball. Black and white calls are not a bad thing.

This is not how VAR should be used. It's not an opinion, it's the Laws of the Game

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Because no one cares about united.

@@The28studio Then shut up about us then ya daftys.

@@The28studio Yet, here you are...

@@seanstimpson5420 I've found generic assna fan 5420.

I don't agree with Zealand saying it "ruined" the game. Offside is either yes or no, regardless of how far it is offside. Why is he not making more noise about the completely inconsistent rules applying to handball that was given against bissaka but not against grealish or young this same weekend... Handballs are ruining the game, not millimetre-offaide calls

Na bro

All that does is just shift the boundary slightly forward. There were still be millimetre margins, you’re just moving the offside line back

@@menpod And changing it so that it’ll be easier to understand, nothing to do with the lines, just the position of the offside offender, so that the entire body could be offside instead of just a either a limb or something as small as a foot or a hand.

this is the worst solution to the problem lmao

It's being implemented incorrectly. They claim they want a bit of human error (allowing the ref to decide whether to change his opinion) but they've implemented a process that ruins that by having VAR (more potential for bias/inconsistencies) talk to the ref. How about you scrap the VAR room, and just allow the ref to view replays based on "coaches" challenges? That way the ref has total control of his decisions and isn't getting second guessed constantly, AND it allows teams to challenge calls they think are wrong

It's awful. I almost don't want to get promoted back to the prem because of how miserable an experience it is. We've had some properly hideous decisions against us this season in the championship - but none of them have made me want to go back to dealing with var.

So you like seeing teams score illegal goals? Really dumb if you ask me

@@shish7755 it beats having the same boring debates about var after every fucking match - it's a bigger story than the actual football most weekends. It ruins the experience as a match going fan, strips the emotion out of the game and ruins the flow of matches. Then still makes big mistakes half the time anyway. It's implemented in the most joyless way possible, obvious fouls are often ignored but every goal is scrutinised for the most minute reason to cancel it and has created more problems than solutions.

Football already has that. It's the mid line of the pitch. I don't think you understand how dramatically the game would change if you made 2 lines closer to the goals.

So football is only a spectacle when referees make mistakes that favour the underdog, just because people are so much in love of this underdog stuff? VAR made the correct decision in this case. It is what it is. Plus, it wasn't VAR that lost Coventry the match, it was them missing 2 penalties.

@@octavianpopescu4776 It's about the spirit of the game. At full speed everyone can see that it looks onside, a millimetre at that speed is 1/1000th of a second. And who decides what frame is used for the "ball being played"? When you drill down, in spite of all this supposed accuracy, it's still subjective so therefore, bin the whole thing. Referees were correct 96% of the time anyway, now it's up to 98%, so still not always right. For that 2 percent, we've ruined football.

@@Mackerdaymia The spirit of the game cannot overrule the laws of the game. Both matter. He looks onside, but isn't actually onside. He's offside. Football isn't ruined at all, in fact, I'd say VAR is a step forward in ending referee mistakes. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. That 96% isn't enough, 98% isn't enough, it should be as close as possible to 100%. Those centimeters do and should matter. Otherwise, we'll just have a lot of anger that team X was cheated at one time or another. The English are still bitter about Maradona's goal in 1986 and rightfully so. Germans are still angry about the 1966 final. And the list goes on. A match should be decided on the pitch by the players, not through referee mistakes that some apparently think are charming. They're not. And let's be honest here: this is just people who are disappointed they didn't get their underdog story. Coventry didn't lose because of that 1 moment: they lost by conceding 3 goals and missing 2 penalties. A football match is player for 90/120 minutes, not just for one moment.

@@octavianpopescu4776 You can have your sanitised, hyperreal football product and keep it as far as I'm concerened. If those few percentage points (bare in mind, that's a handful of decisions a season) are really worth having to review every single minor infraction for minutes, turning games into a snoozefest of waiting for coloured lines, then the game is yours to have fun with. Time and time again, it's shown that the linesman called it right and yet we're going to upend the whole structure of a football match and deny the most climactic moment just because they very occasionally get it wrong. I'm sure you've felt that feeling of not being able to celebrate anymore because you know it'll be checked to see if one of the knee hairs of a player 20 yards away from the play is a micron beyond the forcefield. It's bizarre. How do you even train human beings to interact with such a system? Coaches are simply relying on luck now. You can time your run as perfectly as humanly possible but still be denied a goal that is level to the human eye but the AI ref judges it offside. You should go and maybe read the rulebook as you seem so fond of them. Until VAR, these things were always subjective. Even now, the vast majority of infractions are up to the referee. The more we lean on technology and away from the human element, the more we use the rech to inform the rules, not the other way round as it should be. That's what's meant by the spirit of the game and you're dead wrong, that comes before the rules every damn time.

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