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The last Malkavian I played was convinced he was still a human in an immersive VR video game, throwing MMORPG lingo around all the time and treating others like NPCs - usually the NPCs, but also the Ventrue of the party. When he went to sleep, he imagined his "normal human life" and told the others about his boring day job, the fighting with his wife and so on. Sometimes, when he was annoyed or bored, he simply stated "AFK" and went into a pseudo torpor for a few minutes.
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Here is a roleplaying tip for a Malky. Imagine your derangement in a filter. EVERYTHING your character experiences passes through that filter and is changed, as well as everything they try to put out into the world passes through as well and is changed. Sure, some Malkys are the ride the dinosaur skeleton naked in the middle of the museum types, but most are so deranged they are terrifying. Play your derangement. Play it hard and true. And keep playing it when your troupe are laughing at the table. Then keep playing it. Keep going even when they stop laughing and start getting bored with it. Then keep going. Keep going until they are all looking at you with worry and fear. That's when you are somewhere near home for a Malkavian. Cheers.
I like to play my Malk as a tortured autistic character, torn between the extremes of severe suicidal depression and the survival instinct of the Beast, I then fill up the corners with complex paranoid delusions, though not vulgarly obvious to the other players (mistrust, aggressive outbursts, Machiavellian scheming, etc.). This is largely based on my own somewhat pathological persona, though with a little less critical reason and a little more dramatic impulsivity - no fish. My own diagnosis is autism /adhd/social anxiety with severe depression, and sure i've been to some condescending asshole therapists, but they never, ever accused me of being 'too lucid' or 'not wacky enough', let alone 'not retarded enough to be autistic'. As an aspiring clinical psych, I hope i never patronise a patient as bad as a crappy storyteller degrades a Malkavian. That's when i get hostile OOC, not even joking. Example: I was once accused of cheating (Playing a Bru with Malk powers), so i went full fish and they loved me. I left the game after that session. I really hoped that shit had changed since the 1990s, what with mental health awareness and other fashionable snowflakery going on, but i still get the shitty end of the stick, socially, professionally and academically. I just quit another crappy job today bc i am sick of having my intelligence insulted by minimum wage drones (i usually reply by asking how their PhD thesis is going, then undermine their self-esteem for being less than a rocket scientist themselves); who cares, i graduate next year, then i can get a real job and they will still be the NPCs of the real world (ie. there to be used/robbed/provide exposition, lol). We are losing the battle, my friends; ignorance is winning. Hope that helps (or hurts) anyone who has been getting it wrong!
@@hisvoiceremasteredrecords you are a very self aware person, seems to me you aren't afraid to be your self and honestly speak what you feel about certain topics. Remind your self that having that skill in this modern dark age is a very useful tool, so love your self and don't let society get to you. Most people don't even know what they want and are suffering so just keep on being you.
Stop sign: "....." Malkavian: " No you stop" Stop sign: "..." Malkavian: " no you stop ahhhh" Stop sign :"...." Malkavian:" ahhh nooo i won't" Stop sign:"...." Malkavian: " You have made a powerful enemy today sign"
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When I was a member of the Camarilla, we had something called "the Malkavian Special Friend." Basically, you were the mark for Clan Malkavian's pranks and problems, but if you get messed with, Clan Malkavian would come to your defense.
The Gentleman Gamer I wished to thank you so very much for your explanations. I think I now understand the Setite a bit better. Pesky, pesky Setite. We keep TELLING him he's really our Malkavian brother and he's just forgotten, but will he listen? Of course not. It all could just be a prank but I may have forgotten. Anyway, I must disagree that becoming a Malkavian makes you more insane. I believe I am FAR less mad now that the voices in my head have someone to talk with. It made the screaming stop most of the time and that is SO much less distracting. Would you like some cookies and hugs, or shall I just dance?
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Playing a Malkavian is an interesting experience, if done right they are awesome, but it's so easy to mess up on them, to make them into Fish-Malks. I admire anyone who can play a Malkavian well enough to not be a Fish-Malk.
***** Fishmalk is a term used to refer to a stereo typically wacky Malkavian, the type who hits someone in the face with a fish and runs away hooting. Since Malkavians are all insane, the clan tends to attract a type of player who wants to be wacky or otherwise "chaotic neutral". The specific origin of the term has been attributed to an illustration in the Vampire: The Dark Ages Rule book, which featured a "knight in his undies bleeding into a goblet while some guy fondled a dead fish."
I agree. Most Malkavian players are just a reduction of a stereotype of a mental illness and it gets tiring...Or a "wacky harley quinn ripoff" which is also blend and not creative... playing a Malkavian requires skill and thought.
I find there are good Malk players and writers who made fish Malks so bizarre they go beyond your expected fail and made it something that even with the trademarked “chaotic stupid” behaviour of a regular fishMalk, they pulled in the other players into their derangedments. I suppose most of them instead of winging it, they play the metaplot, doing seeming random stuff to hide the player’s true intent, breaking 4th walls, using dementation to pry spoilers from the ST, you name it.
@@VandalAudi best Malk ive ever seen played had MPD. Three personalities and each thought they were different clans (npc st created.) A malkavian advisor, Nosferatu spy, and a Brujah bruiser all in one character. It was beautiful
@@VandalAudi Had a fellow player who did a lot of what you described and it more disruptive and annoying than anything else, quite unpleasant too, actually. He would interrupt other players in order to describe whatever "wacky" thing he was doing at that moment or to explain what "Caine" was whispering to him, yep, that was his derangement, Caine would give him orders and tell him secrets which he would generally use to derail the story. It finally came to a head during the second session when he started verbally abusing another player and threatening to ghoul and rape the character's family members after they'd politely asked him to stop interrupting them and when several members of the group reprimanded him for this he had a panic attack, fell over and shit his pants. I was kind of in shock as to what was happening when he silently got up, went to the bathroom, locked the door and didn't come out until his brother arrived to pick him up.
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@@TheGentlemanGamer You're a legend, sir. Your videos have single handedly gotten me into tabletop games. The lore ones, in particular, have given me the goal and dream of writing for VTM. Expect a donation from me 4th April.
Malkavian its my favorite clan, when being the storyteller, they add flavor to the game, and you'll never know what a malkavian player will do, and it works the other way around, the player never knows what his malkavian will do.
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Malkavian is my favorite clan to roleplay even though they get pretty boned in terms of disciplines and are primarily used for comic relief. As a Storyteller, I restrict Malkavians to only veteran players with good concepts...you've got to earn the right to play Malkavian in my World of Darkness. My favorite Malkavian character was called "The Vampire Batman" although he also had a secret identity during the day as the always sleeping, thousandaire playboy and welfare recipient Woose Brain. Rather than play him as raving and random-he was simply delusional about his identity and tried to the best of his ability to emulate The Caped Crusader no matter how weird or paradoxical it may seem to others. His demented delusions and vampire powers compensated for his lack of gadgets and resources. While in his mind he is wearing bulletproof Bat-armor and driving the Batmobile, he is really just wearing a trench-coat and a Batman T-shirt with matching Underoos on the back of a moped. He routinely tells the group, "No guns. I don't like guns." but then loads a magazine into his AK-47-when pressed about it he claims, "It's a Bat-a-rang." The coolest part was that by pretending to be Batman, he would find clues and analyze them in his "Bat Computer" which was actually just sticking whatever he picked up in his mouth and using-the Malkavian mind network to render surprisingly accurate crime fighting information in most cases. I also made him a legit martial arts expert with a supply of exceedingly useful everyday tools on his belt, and eventually he owned a vampire bar called "The Bat Cave." He referred to the Prince as Commissioner Gordon and everyone else on the team he called "Alfred"-just little things here and there to let you know that he was bat-shit crazy but not completely worthless and annoying.
Wesley Brown I think this is really cool, I hate how Malkavians are reduced to comic relief in most adventures. They have the most potential of all the clans in my opinion, think "genius syndrome". I love my Malkavians to be incredibly intelligent, truly knowing all the answers but none of the questions.
I feel like that's exactly the kind of Malkavian that gives the clan such a bad name. This is not a silly clan - it's a clan of tragedy and terrifying horror.
The first and only vampire I've played so far is a Malkavian. She is very emotionally invested in the survival and wellbeing of insects in sort of a Kristoff from Frozen "Reindeers are better than people" kind of a way. Imagine her surprise when they start telling her the things they want.
She was embraced by her uncle, whose derangement was that he would always embellish past events in his own mind to make them seem more exciting, and then ended up believing his own tall tales had actually happened. He was killed pretty soon after he embraced my character, though, so he didn't really get a good chance to introduce her to vampire life.
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Thanks for the shout out. Great points about the malks being so totally different from each other. Good job with the story about Cain too. Salot did indeed return. I've seen many cities in games were Malks weren't welcome. Last time I ran VTM, the prince of my city, Boston, was a Malk. excellent job.
This clan is a forbidden player clan in my campaigns because everyone wants to play this clan lately due to a GM I met on a convention who was able to put an EXCELLENT Malkavian on the board. Next to this, excellent video. Thanks!
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I've been preparing my next Malkavian character for like 2 months now, and I don't expect to finish anytime soon. Feeling it will be a great story once Daniel rolls in (his name).
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Short tip for to-be Malkavians: The Jim Carry crazy house malkavian would never be invited anywhere. It's a very unsustainable character. The Anthony Hopkins malkavian, however, would thrive. The Robin Williams malkavian might not thrive, but would at least make a great character for your group to play alongside. Think subtle and brilliant, not vulgar and random.
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Doing some research as a complete beginner and our ST pointed to this channel. Before doing any reading I tried taking the clan quiz on the official website as I figured it'd be a fun entry and I got Malkavian. Wasn't disappointed. One of the other players got that too. Our ST response was: This is gotte be fun 😅 But I've definitely taken some good mental notes from this video. We'll see if that's the clan I pick, definitely very intriguing.
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I know that this is an old video and whanot, but if we ever get another VTM series and you are not put as the prince of some camarilla city we should riot.
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I like the way you did this presenting the Malkavians as an old malkavian and tremere player it made me very nostalgic to play once again but at the moment I am running the game my friends and I are playing.
What is your opinion of Dominate Malkavians? The core book says their madness is less pronounced and certainly less dangerous, and they even appear to be outwardly stable. So, does that mean that the Dominate Malks are much more lucid and reliable? I imagine them to be rather rational and sensible, although weird, as opposed to the unpredictable madness of normal Malks. I'm trying to create an obsessive-compulsive occultist Malk who is weird and friendly, rather than dangerously deranged.
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im very very grateful for this video. Not just for really good, interesting and understandable information in it, but for nice presentation of it. Aaaand one more 'thank you' for just an accent you have.^^ With love from ukrainian toreador-malkavian, or malkavian-toreador, it doesn't matter.:3
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I used to play a Malkavian once, a former orderly in a closed mental hospital... he resided in the hospital and kept performing the same duties he had done when the institution was still open, occasionally he would find new patients, mostly vagrants, drug addicts or teens who had run away from home, he would keep them locked up and care for them, feed from them, of course they would all invariably die... I miss that guy...
Do not look into the mirror. You will only see an illusion. Do not destroy the mirror. You will have nothing to see. Break the mirror leaving only cracks. The cracks are where the truth really hide.
I'm glad that I inspired a malk creation. The quote I used is actually from my Elder character I made training his childe to be a true malkavian. Malkavians see the world. They can see how the sane see it but they know it's a falsehood.
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@clackclickbang Well mental illness and an almost tragic connection to the true destiny of the WoD. I always saw the Malkavians as Cassandra-like characters. They know so much about the ways of the world, the future and their place in it but are never able to comprehend it in a "sensible" way. And there are so many great character concepts possible with them.
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What I like about Dementation is that it doesn't cause insanity per se, but rather brings that inner latent madness bubbling up to the surface. It's also unique in that many Malkavians are not only willing to teach this discipline, but will merrily do so. Of course anyone who seeks to learn it will invariably gain a dementia. Though in the Malkavian's eyes, they're doing that kindred a favor by expanding their reality just a bit...
I guess that the interest in Vampire the Masquerade is fading.. but I was about to say: you deserve more views! you're great, it's fun and informative listening to you. The voice also sends his its greetings! And don't you dare not taking him seriously!
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I have only played one game of Vampire: The Masquerade and did not really get it and now I know why. The game's background was never told to me. It was more like there are different clans flighting for power. These clan though the history and detail, wow. Deep game.
We..They..uhm us..are not insane..we know to much ..Malkavians are the best.Embracing is pure luck..they survive the madness during the change, embrace it and "live" reject it and never know all the secrets we know..or don't know..
Much Madness is divinest Sense -- To a discerning Eye -- Much Sense--the starkest Madness -- 'Tis the Majority In this, as All, prevail -- Assent--and you are sane -- Demur--you're straightway dangerous -- And handled with a Chain Get your own cookies. :D
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Thse that look down on those who know a little better from fist hand exsperiance. As I said I have my owen issues and I have a family member who is Para Scitz and though he can not hold down a job etc he has days/weeks where he is compleetly in controll and days when he is not. So thanks again for clearing up some misnceptions xx
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Great guide! Is this new World of Darkness or old World of Darkness? I have not played the new stuff. My favorite character in a role playing game was a Malkavian, a betrayed Navy SEAL who was secretly given LSD in a mind control experiment. His team was massacred in an ambush while they were all under the influence. His commanding officer turned him into a vampire because he was the craziest one. The player who created him was quite clever.
Well thank you, that was fairly informative, and contained a few things I was not aware of.. Just one thing, though: Wasn't Malkav also a Child of Lilith, and twin Brother of Toreador?
Imagine that the universe were a Rube Goldberg machine, huge, truly huge, and you are in there, somewhere in there, not being able to see the forest because you are two inches away from a tree, and in this immense machine there are infinite little balls doing their random things along the machine; now, why does a Malkavian embraces someone? Because it's going to be funny, in the great scale or at a tiny point of that machine, eventually. It's going to come out as a punchline of some kind, eventually. You all are welcome.
Very nice, I have to say that this is one of your better history lesson videos. I can't wait to see some of your videos when/if you get around to the Werewolf tribes. Also, would it be possible to do an addendum video at some point regarding the malkavia disease ?
Excellent enjoyable insights into Clan Malk, thanks. Im interested in how star signs compare to Vtm clans, and I've always thought that Aquarius would be a nice comparison. Unpredictable yet usually reliable. Capable yet chaotic. Looney yet deeply insightful.
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I am very happy to see you did not go with the steryotypical view some players have of the clan, that insanity only encompase the more extreeme mental ilnesses like scizophrenia or pshycotic tendancys. I hate it that many many players forget that there are many different forms of mental ilnesses from Depression, eating disorders, severe form of ocd etc.
@hoboyho They know the answers to everything. They just don't know the questions. This results in their spouting what other vampires presume to be gibberish.
A fun detail is that Saulot actually found the answear to Malkav and Set's question. (SPOILER ALERT!) His reply to them is in a document that players can discover in Transylvania Chronicles, and it can be a bit shocking... considering this is established 3rd edition lore. An interesting read, but I don't recomend looking it up unless you plan on running a Gehenna chronicle. It does make the Revised CB a very interesting read, once you understand what they were looking for, and why they failed.
Now, Malk fans, I need inspiration I have a Malkavian, a dean of medicine. I'm thinking OCD, possibly obsessed with Golconda. But, in what other ways could this OCD manifest? So far I've got him counting the time since his T.O.D. As a kind of "this is how long a body can be clinically dead and still function
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There's that, but a Malkavian's Dementation of sufficient level can be permanent, which is a pretty long time for the vampire struck with it. It's going to be pretty hard to find something capable of getting rid of something like a paranoia, depression or newfound fear of the dark. In the middle of combat this can be deadly. Also most Thaumaturgy paths can be matched by other clan powers. Assamites and Setites even have their own Thaumaturgy paths that Tremere don't have access to.
I personally love playing as a Malkavian. I'm not sure why but it's always satisfying to seem like the most stable member of my coterie one moment and then turn into rambling lunatic the next. The only real down side I've ever really seen was that the derangement gives something of an unfortunate tick which someone can learned to exploit.
Do you know any books on vampires with depth, interesting story and really dark atmosphere similar to a game Vampire:Bloodlines? There's plenty of vampire stories, but they're shallow, stereotypical and mostly childish - I'm looking for something more mature, thanks in advance!
I don't know if you've read Anne Rice's books, collectively known as "The Vampire Chronicles" but I would recommend them - unless you've already read them and found them too childish, that is...
I dunno, the story told in chapter 1 of the Malkavian clanbook is a really good story from I think a Methuselah of the clan. A good example would be the eater.
Published back in the 1980s trying to recall but Fevre Dreams by George RR Martine, same guy that did Game of Thrones, this seems a nice little list: www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/the-10-best-vampire-novels-no-one-has-read/ I also love Robert McCammon's They Thirst.
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Playing one now in 5th edition working to get to full madness network Dementation powers with dissociative identity disorder fun as a painter and artist
@clackclickbang Thanks very much. Have a larp game full of veteran players and newbies alike. I have suggested them to watch your videos to brush up on the clans. Much thanks is appreciated.
Its so nice to stumble on here in the middle of the night only to see we are still going strong. My dolls told me you were all here but it took a while to understand as i drew on their mouths backwards and the directions they Gave Me kept getting myself Lost. I triED tosleep for SO LOng but release Wouldnt come even wHEn I brIbed it with a box of thumbtax. ThuMbtax dont seem liKe much to you I believe but WHen you Know how to cultivate them INto something solid, something real then things start to happen. Press ouch! press press Ouch!!! and they laugh then Cry but always give in. then the fun can Begin! WHo wants to argue with a Little giRl whEN it cOMes to Thumbtacks right?
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@tetsubo57 There were no therapists in the days and nights of Enoch, alas. Not to my knowledge, but I could say the same for many RPGs. I expect a lot of writers of games are trying to express ideas and project their characters into games, through improvisation. After all, is that not what roleplaying is all about?
well, i would like to start playing a malkav, but i have a few questions... 1)are either sicero or sheogorath, good inspirations for a malkav character? 2)knowing that everyone have some "weirdness" or "mental illnes"(at least in my country it is said that more than 90% have at least something, from obsessions to depression or stress and lots of them end up with something worst because of that) making an exageration of my own, could work?(my problem is that when i get angry i think different, things that i would like when im happy are anoying, and things that i would hate when im happy i start to like when im angry, also... i lose any mercy or simpathy for anyone, and coul see someone dying without even thinking its something to care about but it does not means im violent, just that violence does not seems like something important when im really really angry, but yeah, i tend to be more violent when im angry, like anybody else) and 3)what can you tell me about malkav ghouls?
Cicero in my opinion would be a better choice - perhaps performed with more subtlety. Malkavians are crazy but not stupid, and those that live in the camerilla rarely are loud about their insanity. To do so could put them in danger of being exploited or killed. Like in Bloodlines, Tourette Voermann has multiple personality disorder which is used strategically to fool people that there is more than one vampire running the city. One being impulsive, sexually driven and anarchic while the other is cold, psychopathic and business based. Another example could be Hannibal Lecter, who would be a mixture of antisocial disorder mixed with intellectualism. Uncomfortable to be around and very analytical of people around him and perhaps tempted to go into a fit of rage if a provocation, which goes against the Malk's judgement of character is triggered.
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