The George Harvey Dry Fly Leader -- Design, Adjustment and Fishing Tips

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HERE is the Harvey Leader Recipe:
20” - 15# Maxima Chameleon
20” - 12# Maxima Chameleon
10” - 10# Maxima Chameleon
10” - 8# Maxima Chameleon
12” - 2X soft nylon tippet material
12” - 3X soft nylon tippet material
14” - 4X soft nylon tippet material
20-48” - 4X, 5X or 6X soft nylon tippet material (to match fly and conditions)
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HERE is the Troutbitten Harvey Dry Leader in the Shop:
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HERE are the Troutbitten companion articles:
READ: Troutbitten | Dry Fly Fishing -- The George Harvey Leader Design
troutbitten.com/2019/07/21/dr...
READ: Troutbitten | Dry Flies Need Slack -- So Give It To The George Harvey Style
troutbitten.com/2017/06/30/dr...
READ: Troutbitten | Dry Fly Fishing -- The Stop and Drop
troutbitten.com/2019/08/06/dr...
READ: Troutbitten | Dry Fly Fishing -- The Forehand and Backhand Curve
troutbitten.com/2020/08/02/dr...
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The George Harvey Dry Fly leader is a slackline leader built for dead drifting. With intentional casting, with the right stroke, the Harvey lands with slack in all the right places, with curves and swirls through the entire leader and not just in the tippet section. The Harvey is a masterful tool built for the art of presenting a dry fly on a dead drift. But success begins by understanding how the Harvey is different, and why it works.
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@chrisgrataski9911 11 месяцев назад

Your podcast and articles have been game changing for me. But I must also say that the clarity and artfulness of these instructional videos is unparalleled, and they just keep getting better. Thanks so much to all of you at Troutbitten and Wilds Media. Truly grateful down here in Virginia.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

That's a really kind comment. Thank you.

@glenndotter5065 4 месяца назад

Always enjoy. Been casting flies for nearly 65 years and as you said at the end I pretty learned the different casts by doing them. My bud and I get a kick watching vids and saying " so thats what weve been doing all these years.

@Troutbitten 4 месяца назад

Love it. Cheers.

@craigisonychia 11 месяцев назад

You guys are everything thats good about fly fishing. Keep it up

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Hey thanks! That makes my day. CHEERS.

@marks.5288 4 месяца назад

I have used the Harvey leader formulas for 30 years, unbeatable.

@Troutbitten 4 месяца назад

Right on.

@mathewcampbell8479 11 месяцев назад

This is a fantastic instructional video. I was using the Harvey leader last season, and yeah, it worked, but your recipe is a little more refined. Can't wait to try it out.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Good stuff

@pjlee74 3 месяца назад

the quality of your production is amazing! keep up good work

@Troutbitten 3 месяца назад

Thanks!

@tonystarksification 11 месяцев назад

Nice I was just tying this. Thanks troutbitten.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Cool. Do it!

@JarobJOrtiz 5 месяцев назад

Im super excited to give this recipe a shot. I've built out a bunch already. Only a month or so before the first significant hatch in my area.

@Troutbitten 5 месяцев назад

Nice. Have fun.

@kec2528 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. You sold me on the leader.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Right on

@mattmeyer935 3 месяца назад

I love your videos! However, I love the bloopers more!

@Troutbitten 3 месяца назад

Gotta have some fun. Cheers.

@gregd6799 11 месяцев назад

Can’t wait for the first person stuff. Love my skwalas. I have the carbons, thinking about getting the RS’s too. I like the carbons better than my Simms G3s. Cheers!

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Right on.

@pascida323 10 месяцев назад

Haha very first cast @ 6:22 a fish rose for the fly lol😂 Good video man! Putting this leader to work here in a few weeks!

@Troutbitten 10 месяцев назад

Right on, buddy.

@oldsmugglerflyfishing 11 месяцев назад

Very interesting video.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Cheers.

@stringtwister7654 3 месяца назад

I love your videos , the articles and podcasts! Thanks for sharing! So let me see if i got this right, the S curves keep the current from dragging on the fly when it hits the water? Its like a ariel mend? Thanks for thr help

@Troutbitten 3 месяца назад

Thanks. And yes, s-curves and some slack are the only way a dry fly can truly drift drag free in a river. With any current, the fly needs a little grace. But no, it's not an aerial mend. The Harvey Leader will land in great s-curves if you use what I call a Stop and Drop -- simply stopping the rod at 10:00, to allow for turnover, then dropping the tip. Here's a full article on that: troutbitten.com/2019/08/06/dry-fly-fishing-the-stop-and-drop/ Lot's more in the links to this video and in that article link too. There's a ton of info for you on Troutbitten about this stuff. Get in touch if you need more direct links. Cheers

@stringtwister7654 3 месяца назад

@Troutbitten Thanks you so much for the help!

@daver1959 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great video Dom! On a windy day would you cut off the 5x tippet to get the 4x section to turn over? Also, I fish a lot of tight water on smaller rivers where I’m making 25 foot casts or even shorter. Any tips for using the Harvey leader with only 6-8 ft of fly line outside the guides?

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Good questions. There's a lot to the adjustment, really. Check out the companion article here for more on that: troutbitten.com/2023/08/03/video-the-george-harvey-dry-fly-leader-design-adjustment-and-fishing-tips/ There are links in this video and in that article to more resources about the Harvey leader. Adjustment is one of those things you need to experiment with. All of that is a long answer to your question, because I can't just say yes, cut the 5X off and choose a 4X tippet. Maybe, yes. But fly size and bushiness, rod power, wind speed and direction, casting style, distance, etc. all play a big part and making that decision. Lastly, yes, I would simply shorten each section in the leader recipe to downsize it for smaller streams if you like. So shorten each section by, say, 25%. That's a start. Cheers. Dom

@pahuntnut 11 месяцев назад

I used to tie my own but in certain river systems like the upper Delaware, those knots are algea grabbers

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

I know what you mean. But man, it's a tiny percentage of water where that's actually a problem. I have a couple friends who are really good dry fly anglers up there, same river, and they use slack leaders like this, hand tied.

@pahuntnut 11 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten yes your right, I live close to the river and am there all the time. If i went further down river by Hale Eddy its not as bad. Thanks for the reply and love the podcast

@esjovold6572 11 месяцев назад

Great video. I’ve heard of these leaders and even made a couple. This is the best description of why you would use them. Could you use Ultragreen instead of Chameleon, I have ultragreen. Thanks for the videos.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Thanks. So the Harvey, or any similar slackleader design really is different, which as you said, I tried to highlight in this video. And that's because of how it's built. I always tell people you CAN sub whatever materials you like for any leader recipe you find. Testing things out is the best way to learn how different things can be. However, just like a new fly pattern I choose to tie and fish, I always like to tie leaders exactly as the recipe calls for (and fish it for a while) before I make any changes. And if I do make changes, I do so with a purpose -- meaning, there's a reason I modify the leader or the fly, because I'm trying to achieve something. I suppose my point here is that I wouldn't use Ultragreen just because you have that laying around. I would first tie and fish the Harvey as the recipe calls for. Chameleon is far stiffer than Ultragreen, so the performance -- the punch -- will be quite a bit different. I'm sure of that. Cheers.

@esjovold6572 11 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten Thanks for the info. I’ve never worked with Chameleon and didn’t realize it was stiffer. I might have to do some looking and see if I can find some locally. There isn’t a lot of fly shops locally. I enjoy learning about leaders, I feel they are probably one of the most misunderstood parts of fly fishing.

@andrewstager1378 11 месяцев назад

@@esjovold6572I grabbed my various chameleon spools on Amazon. Some of it arrived same-day.

@lessthings40 10 месяцев назад

Great video and website. Do you change the formula of this leader (besides the tippet) for different weight rods? 3wt vs 5wt? That sort of thing

@Troutbitten 10 месяцев назад

No. Not at all. Fair question though.

@CarlosGarcia-507 11 месяцев назад

6:22 you had a take! 😂

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Maybe

@Twinhemlocks 2 месяца назад

Hey Dom, I really enjoy tying my own leaders. I was going to buy this one from your store but they are sold out(good on ya). I was wondering if I could use maxima ultragreen in place of the orvis supersoft, as I already have all the sizes I need? the only thing I will need to order is the maxima chameleon in 10 and 6#. Thanks as always for the excellent resource!!

@Troutbitten 2 месяца назад

Hi there. Fair question, but no, I wouldn't use ultra green because it's not soft enough. It's not really tippet material, as I use it.

@Deaddriftbum 11 месяцев назад

Dang that’s one new lookin vest you got there lol. Almost like the what’s in your vest video was one of the last times you fished it hahaha

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

IT WAS! I retired it after that video. Should have had a service or something.

@Deaddriftbum 11 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten I just finished the latest podcast on the way home from work where you mentioned it then this video drops. Had to make the comment lol

@TakaVln 4 месяца назад

How does this leader do if I'm fishing dries but decide I want to add a weighted nymph for a dry dropper setup?

@Troutbitten 3 месяца назад

I do that a lot. Works great.

@ryannelson8918 9 месяцев назад

Hey Dom, do you ever pair the GHL with the standard mono rig or are you always using it with fly line? I’ve been using the standard mono rig for dry fly fishing lately and I’m loving it, for shorter distances

@Troutbitten 9 месяцев назад

Definitely with fly line! Cheers.

@xam1289 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video - very helpful. I have all the line sizes in Maxima Ultragreen. What does the chameleon line provide vs just the ultragreen? Thanks in advance.

@Troutbitten 5 месяцев назад

Hi there. Thanks for asking. Ultragreen is just a softer material. The design of the Harvey is for power up front and softness at the end. It's a delicate balance. I've tried many materials for the butt sections. There's nothing like Chameleon. Here's a full article on the design: READ: Troutbitten | Dry Fly Fishing -- The George Harvey Leader Design troutbitten.com/2019/07/21/dr...

@xam1289 5 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for the guidance. Jeez, so much to learn… Thanks New subscribers and supporter.

@stevenjones5930 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video Dom. I’ve heard some people have issues with the blood knots getting stuck in the guides when a bigger fish decides to take a second run. Any experience with that?

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Fair question. Two things there . . . First, simply tie clean blood knots and clip them FLUSH, with no tags. A knot like this will not hang up. Second, a Harvey leader, at .015 on the butt section, attached with a clinch knot to the fly line loop is MUCH cleaner going through the guides than a loop to loop connection with a .022 or larger diameter butt section. Article here: troutbitten.com/2019/03/06/loop-to-loop-is-bad-try-attaching-your-leader-to-the-fly-line-this-way/ Those are my thoughts. Hope that helps. Cheers.

@stevenjones5930 11 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten thanks Dom! Always appreciate the insight

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

@@stevenjones5930 Sure thing

@VTBullitt 2 месяца назад

What color lenses do you wear? Does it change if it’s super bright out?

@Troutbitten Месяц назад

Here's the Troutbitten Recommended Gear page with some answer to that: troutbitten.com/recommended-gear/ Yes, I wear amber or yellow, depending on the light conditions.

@stevecavanagh712 4 месяца назад

8.10 my man casually doing helicopters with the line while explaining his cast

@Troutbitten 4 месяца назад

Hey now!

@coreylabarge126 11 месяцев назад

Are you attaching this on the fly line, not a 15' or 20' maxima butt section?

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Goes straight to the fly line, yes.

@LinusCyrilBrown 7 месяцев назад

Do you use a 10' 4'' for the harvy, or do you have a dedicated dry fly rod? Thanks so much for the video guys, enjoy the day.

@Troutbitten 7 месяцев назад

Cheers. I'm a believer in versatility, not specialization. To me, it seems foolish to want/need a streamer rod, a dry fly rod, a rod for tight lining, a rod for indy work, etc. We have the opportunity to do ALL of these things in a morning of fishing a trout river. And trout change throughout the day. So we may NEED all of those tactics, back to back. Therefore, I fish what I do -- the 10' 4 weight, as the rod that works best for my daily conditions, allowing me to match all of those opportunities. Long answer to say, YES, the 1004 works perfectly with the Harvey. I have articles about this on Troutbitten as well. troutbitten.com/2017/10/15/fifty-fly-fishing-tips-12-use-a-versatile-and-general-fly-rod/ troutbitten.com/tag/fly-rods/ Hope that helps. Dom

@LinusCyrilBrown 7 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten Thanks Dom, I read your article on "a versatile and general fly rod", carrying only one rod on the river, and choosing a versatile tool makes a lot of sense. I suppose my initial worry was that accuracy would suffer with the longer rod, but I suppose that is simply a matter of getting to know your tool as you mentioned on a recent podcast on the micro and standard mono rig. Thanks so much for your help, and all you do, cheers!

@TheRadoProject 10 месяцев назад

Hey troutbitten, i have a really important question, what microphone are you guys using for your content? Sounds super crisp, please let me know, thank you!

@Troutbitten 10 месяцев назад

Thanks. It's a Rhode Wireless Go 2. Hope that helps. Cheers.

@markaogb 11 месяцев назад

Is this leader for regular fly line and Rod or its on a Euro line and Rod ?

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Oh boy, you opened up a can of worms there. Short answer is fly line. Use the Harvey leader with regular fly line. Longer answer and a lot of important details about tight line tactics and euro nymphing, clearing up so many misconceptions and limitations is here, in these couple Troutbitten article links. The Best Fly Rods for the Mono Rig and Euro Nymphing troutbitten.com/2021/09/22/the-best-fly-rods-for-the-mono-rig-and-euro-nymphing-my-favorite-rods/ Euro Nymphing and the a Mono Rig troutbitten.com/2018/01/10/what-is-euro-nymphing-and-what-is-the-mono-rig/ Make sense?

@CarlosGarcia-507 10 месяцев назад

@troutbitten do you end the leader with a tippet ring or just triple surgeons the tippet you choose?

@Troutbitten 10 месяцев назад

Good question, but no, I don't like tippet rings there, no matter how small they are. Double surgeons is great. No need for a triple.

@CarlosGarcia-507 10 месяцев назад

@@Troutbitten thanks for the quick response! Just tied some up, can’t wait to try it out!

@Troutbitten 10 месяцев назад

Nice

@ks-eq3yx 11 месяцев назад

It's 50 per cent about the leader and the rest about you promoting products then?

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

Well, I'm proud of the relationships I have with the companies I call partners, and the built-in sponsorship from a fly fishing company is better than a bunch of random ads from RU-vid, in my opinion, because here I get to share with you some of my favorite things that I use every day. Likewise, I'm proud of what I've built in the Troutbitten Shop, and I'm happy to offer these leaders for sale. I also provide the recipe for the Harvey to DIY -- always have. Troutbitten is my business, not a hobby. And it's what I work on every day, all day. These videos require 20+ man hours each. I think you can tell they aren't just thrown together quickly. So the revenue generated is both appreciated and necessary to keep the Troutbitten Project moving forward. Thanks for your question. Cheers.

@wendyroberts4883 11 месяцев назад

Ridiculously over complicated. I will stick to 5 feet of a chopped down, knotless tapered leader, tippet ring and then DIY the front end of the leader. Simple.

@Troutbitten 11 месяцев назад

That works too, just in a different way. Go get 'em.