The Gilmour Effect - The “Shredders are Boring” Argument

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In today’s I discuss what I call “The Gilmour Effect”. It talks about the relationship of Virtuosity, Feel and Melodicism.
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@kjek1 2 года назад

Gilmour isn’t up there to cram as many techniques and notes into a song as he can. He simply makes his guitar sing, and he always does so in a tasteful manner that gives absolute maximum emotional feel to the song. He is a master.

@recuperacion420 Год назад

Thats right

@Voorhies7147 Год назад

Agreed...

@torbjrnlund903 Год назад

A master and a genius; the God of all the guitar Gods.

@JG-zt5vr Год назад

I'm sure Gilmour CAN shred with the best, but not so sure the shredders can play like him.

@HK-me6es Год назад

His post Roger material basically sounds like one continuous song, good if you're having trouble sleeping.

@alexanderball6326 2 года назад

I've always thought Gilmour can make you feel more with 3 notes than some shredders can with 300

@Advaitamanta Год назад

the thing is shredding can never make you feel what rightly hit 2 notes can.

@bloomz1 Год назад

Saw Journey a few years back, realized he plays more notes in a single song than David plays in a whole night - and says way way more. Not impressed that uses 30 notes to climb 12 frets

@alexanderball6326 Год назад

@@TheGiantMidget yeah i have and no i didnt. Tbh dave mustaine was one of the guitar players i was thinking of 🤷‍♂️

@alexanderball6326 Год назад

@@TheGiantMidget i didnt 🤷‍♂️

@FLASHAHOLIC_TV 5 месяцев назад

Give Steve Hackett 1 sustained note, Give Gilmour 2 bent notes and give Buckethead 10,000 shredded notes.

@fenatic7484 2 года назад

Gilmour plays like a poet writes. It is really loquacious in ability because it is from the soul as an inspiration that a poet is inspired to write about. He is also a very humble person.

@parallaxcontinuum7898 2 года назад

You said a ton, in as few words as possible.

@TTRVision Год назад

he is an absolute pure Artist some others .... are just sportsmans ....

@Geezer-yf8hv Год назад

He plays from his heart and soul! That is the secret!

@harveymcdaniel9272 Год назад

MPP P

@tiagobedun305 Год назад

And a poet know exactly how word to use and when use. Like Gilmour with his notes.

@sharonrichards1627 Год назад

David's guitar is like an extension of his soul. Romantic and sincere.

@augustfeola8347 4 года назад

““Music is the space between the notes.” - Claude Debussy It’s where music breathes life into the soul.

@Deltasquad382943 4 года назад

He’s not gonna like Flight of the Bumblebee then. If you wanna be realistic, “music is whatever the fuck satisfies you”.

@MarkAhrens-HeritageFilms 4 года назад

Debussy shreds!

@glenkepic3208 4 года назад

@@robpoles2 Tumeninotes, Steve Morse,,,,or Amadeus ;)

@ljgarrison6910 4 года назад

So profound, fuck sake.

@Campbell1. 4 года назад

so what are the notes then, if they are not music!!!

@Gilbarwaters 4 года назад

What I love about Gilmour's style is that he doesn't overload every single song with overwhelming solos. His style is enjoyable, my ears love it, my body feels it and it's never too much. It's all well balanced. That's why I always go back for more. I was 10 when I first listened "Mother" and "C. Numb" and I felt like I had discovered the most amazing music and I understood the message. Being raised in an environment where most people listened to, cumbia, salsa, mariachi music. I felt I was a chosen one, that day when I found that aiwa walkman in 1985 with a 90 min. maxell cassette in it, with songs from The Wall and Wish you were here albums. For me it was like finding a portal to another dimension. Especially that guitar sound.

@giannapple 4 года назад

All Pink Floyd music is a portal to other dimensions. With no use of chemicals.

@theshyguy1580 4 года назад

When I heard "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" for the first time, that guitar solo. It can almost bring you to tears, the way he plays it.

@duncan8238 4 года назад

Yet this grifter uses Gilmour's name to promote a video that barely even mentions him.

@lucianoonaicul7057 4 года назад

sure, from the age of 10 until the age of 16, 18, 20ish.... if you grow out of the known style, you could be rewarded.

@duncan8238 4 года назад

@@lucianoonaicul7057 Some styles are timeless brother.

@ianwynne764 4 года назад

Hello Rick: I'm 65 years old and I've been learning to play the piano for two and half years. I have no musical background. I'm too old to be a "shredder". However, it I learn to play good, simple, blues and jazz, I will be very, very happy. Keep up the wonderful work.

@ianwynne764 4 года назад

@@MyRackley Well done learning the sax. It's a hard instrument. What you are doing takes real skill. I'm impressed. Thank you for the good advice. Stay well and safe.

@ianwynne764 4 года назад

@nynetynyne Thank you. Stay well and safe.

@kevingill648 Год назад

David Gilmour is simply one of the greatest guitarists ever! shredders bore me to tears.

@pabli7o 4 года назад

Dave Mustaine said: 'David Gilmour could do more with one note than today's shredders can do with a dozen'

@chinoisbase 4 года назад

David Gilmour can do more than Paul Gilbert?

@nimrodery 4 года назад

@Hugh Jones I liked the hat. If it wasn't for the hat and the heroin, though, would we have even heard of him?

@DanielBatt 4 года назад

So could Neil Young. Not sure why he's missing from these videos.

@eduardoalcala7628 4 года назад

@@DanielBatt One of the best guitar player ever

@EnzoFerenczyo 4 года назад

One note and good night. Camel, yes, Wishbone Ash. Eric could do it, of course

@filipefrancoafonso 4 года назад

Allan Holdsworth on guitar lesson: "You can't let your fingers dictate what you play. It's your brain that must command your fingers."

@jtmichaelson 4 года назад

I'd have to throw in Mark Knopfler as a virtuoso. He never plays anything twice the same, invents himself with every album release. Mike Oldfield is another, like Gilmour, has every note in every song that belongs there. Both Gilmour and Oldfield never wasted a note and both opened and filled spaces in their songs with precision and feeling.

@SimonJohnOwen 4 года назад

Knopfler is an amazing player

@joacovignoli 4 года назад

Knopfler, creator of some of the most beautiful melodies in rock!

@ksoman953 4 года назад

While I really like and respect Rick Beato, his ignoring Mark Knopfler's talent, loosely speaking, just confuses me. I feel, even in the few situations where he's included Mark's work in his lists, it appears like he has done it very begrudgingly. This live RU-vid video has just left me confused. Either Rick is clearly doing what we all do to make sales numbers by playing up random sound bites or he's getting worn out by COVID lockdown.

@simongchadwick 4 года назад

Thank you for a rare mention of Mike Oldfield's genius.

@kevinharnan8378 4 года назад

Tom Bukovac?

@classicrockdefender 2 года назад

I think it was B. B. King who once said: "It's not about the notes you play, it's all about the notes you don't play". I have kind of a split relationship to virtuosoes. It's OK if somebody can play technically perfect, but lots of those musicians forget the emotions, they forget, that music shall move people. Playing fast goes for posers. If you want to make music, emotion is everything. Gilmour is one of the best in creating solos, that move people. Just look at reaction-videos ("first time hearing...") to "Comfortably Numb", people are crying, when hearing those solos for the first time. That's, in my humble opinion, is what music is about. ;)

@biscobisco1882 2 года назад

There are plenty of 'bluesy/feely' players who churn out the same old boring, redundant pentatonic/blues lines too. There are thousands of comments slagging off 'shredders' that neglect to mention this fact, as well as neglecting to mention the fact that there are a tonne of virtuosic players who also have tremendous phrasing, feel, creativity and compositional skill. The fact is that fast, 'notey' playing generates musical colours and emotions that slow, bendy playing simply cannot. Listen to someone like Stephen Taranto (or his band The Helix Nebula) - apex technical chops backed up by an amazing sense of energy, drive, frenzy, unpredictability - his music is an absolute cosmic thrill ride.

@stephengould4768 2 года назад

You hit the nail on the head! Comfortably Numb is one of the greatest guitar solo(s) ever! I think Alex Lifeson is in the same league. Is he technical? No. Is he a shredder? No. But, like Gilmour, he knows what to play and when to play it! Emotion speaks volumes when it comes to music!

@lovescarguitar 2 года назад

I guess Guthrie Govan, Paul Gilbert, Marco Sfogli, Kiko Loureiro, Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Shawn Lane, And many others are all posers then.....

@roberteberhart1139 2 года назад

Yeah but explain punk?

@fenatic7484 2 года назад

@@roberteberhart1139 How about country Punk like Dave Alvin!

@bombercountyblues 4 года назад

Am the only one getting the irony of rick asking why there's a slight echoe at the beginning of a video called "the Gilmour effect"?

@scottenriquez1930 3 года назад

😂

@JohnSmith-mx8wp 3 года назад

There's a scene in "Pink Floyd at Pompeii" where the engineer tells David, "It's a little 'feedbacky'". He responds, "Where would rock and roll be without feedback?" 😏

@guilhermetonon7267 3 года назад

@@JohnSmith-mx8wp noice

@cheneyrobert 3 года назад

😜😂😂😂

@williamknell864 4 года назад

There's doing "donuts," or "burnouts" in a parking lot, and there's going for a drive. Having a destination.

@melodicdreamer72 4 года назад

I like your analogy...Setting course for a destination and finding creative ways to get there is where it is at.

@johnhoerl7326 4 года назад

Nailed it. Shredding always seemed to me like self-indulgent showing off. It’s fun for a little while, but eventually you want to go somewhere

@johnhoerl7326 4 года назад

iamthedarkavenger That’s really well-said. I can definitely appreciate such “outbursts” when they’re in the context of a larger musical and emotional palette. It’s when outbursts become the only emotional and musical tone that I lose interest, like having someone constantly yelling at you. That’s what a lot of shredding sounds like to me. Then again, I’m an old fart ;)

@sophiemilton5939 4 года назад

That's the thing. Those guitarists make me go Wow.....unbelievable for about 30 seconds, then it just becomes boring to me. It's an incredible physical feat but once I've seen it I've seen it and within a very short time it has just become more-of-the-same. When Rick made a passing criticism of Nickleback he said that Chad Kroeger starts on 10 then has nowhere to go and that applies very much to guitar. A guy makes a comment on here somewhere about his fast playing being emotional because it expresses a burst of frustration or anger. Hmmm. OK then .......but IMO that's pretty much all that you CAN express at ultra high speed. You can do excitement, anger and emotions closely related to that, but that's only a small part of the human experience. How do you express, peace, contentment, love, regret, sadness etc etc at a zillion notes a minute? Travelling at that speed means that you are unable to make use of the larger part of the palette. I am a pensioner and have been playing guitar - quite slowly - since I was 13. Still am. So I am just another an old fart - but the thing is, I have the same opinion today as I did when I switched to electric at 17, for the reasons above. :-)

@trentnunyabiz6204 4 года назад

@@johnhoerl7326 I find John McLaughlin or Robert fripp to be good examples of "Expressive shredding with meaning" (Fripp's guitar styling may not be for everyone but so would be clapton's)

@pjtheory 3 года назад

What is sometimes forgotten when comparing the guitar legends is that Gilmour is not only a unique talent, he has consistently created great music for more than 50 years. He has also influenced and helped other artists to flourish on their own and/or share the stage with him. IMO, no other guitar legend can match Gilmour's overall resume.

@simbad909 2 года назад

Orb

@carolsnook4659 2 года назад

Yes..without Gilmour we may never have had the delectable and brilliant Kate Bush ..

@americas1stfreedom338 2 года назад

Well-put. 😎

@nekilikizhrvatske3336 2 года назад

There is no best guitar player, though there are best rock guitarists but gilmour isnt one of them.

@ralphiecifaretto8961 2 года назад

He has? What great work has he done since The Wall?

@ajones957 Год назад

I always thought Alex Lifeson transitioned from an emphasis on "technique" to more of an emphasis on melody. Alex went to painting soundscapes and taking up more room sonically versus self-indulgent displays of technical skill.

@ghosterdude 4 года назад

the gilmour effect is that i want to listen to some gilmour right now

@jarradc3842 4 года назад

for me Gilmour speaks to my emotions in ways other people can't. It has less to do with technical skill and more to do with production and song writing. Pink Floyd is my favorite band because i found them in high school at the time my grandfather was dying and passed away. having lived in his home at the time, Pink Floyd's ability to perfectly capture the feeling of meloncolly spoke to me in a way that made me feel like the songs were written specifically for myself. David's style of guitar has greatly influenced how i write and play today, because he showed me that you didn't have to know every scale or play extremely fast to be a truly great player. I find his ability to match with Wright's keyboards without clashing to be incredible, and i think without all the members of that band, flaws and all, i might not have made it through those tough times.

@TallicaMan1986 4 года назад

@@elipacheco532 Gilmour is pretty dynamic. People always think of Darkside or The Wall and totally forget he lead Pink Floyd from the mid 80s throughout the 90s. So many good songs like One Slip.

@skeletonshorror5184 3 года назад

I’ll take ten seconds of Gilmour over ten minutes of the best shredder any day. 💀🔥

@lanceroberthough1275 3 года назад

Amen

@DingoTheDemon 3 года назад

Heck, ten minutes of shredding would probably get boring in my opinion! lol

@michaelpontrelli6588 3 года назад

What is your opinion on Satriani? I, too, prefer Gilmour to most shredders. But Satriani's compositions are very visual to me. Also, have you listened to any of Edgar Froese's guitar work? He didn't play guitar much, but he always struck me in the same manner Gilmour has when he did. Cheers!

@gerhardbraatz6305 3 года назад

@@harounel-poussah6936 you are definitely entitled to your opinion.

@digitaldreamer5481 3 года назад

I use to live right next door to one of the best musicians on the planet, not because he was one of the best guitarists. I mentioned it here because he played all the instruments in his head, go into a studio to record each instrument and then put all the tracks together. A great example would be “Children Of The Sun”. Of course, I’m talking about the late Billy Thorpe and my only regret is that I knew him, spoke to him often but never once had an opportunity to go to one of his concerts. The first time he played “Girls of Summer”, I just felt that he made the song up, right there on the spot… amazing!

@JohnMegaton2062 Год назад

This is an example. The most amazing guitar playing I ever saw was at the Ryman a few years ago when Vai, Satriani, Wylde, Malmsteen, and Bettencourt played a show together. I was in awe. That said, by the time the last act got on stage I was EXHAUSTED. My brain was on the fritz from processing all the sounds for a couple hours. After that show I didn’t want to listen to any music for a day or two. They’re great but it’s hard to “soak in” shredders like that. It’s like loving a good hot dog but participating in a hot dog eating contest. Too much at once diminishes the enjoyment.

@sixtyninetele 4 года назад

I’ve said this for years: David Gilmour never played a note that didn’t belong where he played it. 🎸 That is all🤙🏽

@raydandy4899 4 года назад

100%

@EvilSean62 4 года назад

@ i was about to launch into a big reply ... then I did what I do these days ... read before posting ( excellent for mental health)... so I read your piece again space... I play bass ...space is where I live in the realm of trills I started with geddy lee and my old rick ... sad story...moving on ....I got to here then I realised ...this IS a long reply so to narrow it down ... speed ?...nope I need effect edit ... can't spell

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

That's what Robert Keeley said to me. Not just Gilmour - the band. Musical architecture.

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

@ Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth once confronted Flea at a party and whispered in his ear: "White boys shouldn't play Black boys' bass guitar". Apparently he toned down the slappin' & poppin' after that.

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

Ummagumma has some ok stuff in the live section of the album. But yes, you're right. He changed his gear a fair bit during that period. The right gear can inspire.

@RomuloViana 3 года назад

This whole discussion reminds me of a joke made by the great Antonio Carlos Jobim in one of his interviews: when asked why his piano solos didn't have that many notes, he answered "that's because I only get to play the right ones".

@typ044 3 года назад

I could listen to Jobim all day!

@Rasperdan 3 года назад

Shredders are look at me and Gilmore is listen to this.

@amd1273 3 года назад

Lol

@jackiwannapaint 3 года назад

this says it all

@ronr6951 2 года назад

100%

@RohannvanRensburg 2 года назад

Absolute nonsense.

@rabranch32 2 года назад

Rick, you are doing such important work on this channel. Not only are you a keeper of musical history, you are a bridge from the musical past into the musical future. Thank you for your inspiration.

@user-sr2nc9ge1d 2 года назад

Perfectly stated! I 100% agree

@jimhunter6795 3 года назад

Randy Rhoads was great at shredding and still being melodic with his solos. Too bad he died so young

@marcgallegos2239 3 года назад

Randy's idol, Mick Ronson, definitely fit that bill too. live, his heavy stuff was up there with sabbath and zeppelin, but he could write beautiful, simple melodies for Bowie's ballads

@robertmackenzie2808 2 года назад

@@marcgallegos2239 Yeah, a few other guys Rick doesn't seem to mention, just like Rory Gallagher.

@themultimagic1347 5 месяцев назад

I think the late, great Gary Moore fits this description as well. He can play incredibly fast, and when the song calls for it he does. But for the most part he plays in a more emotional, economical style. I wouldn't call it laid back; his sensibilities lean more toward hard rock. But I'd take him over Yngwie any day.

@rowbags3017 4 года назад

RIP Peter Green, whose death was announced today - the antithesis of shredding, and one of the most musical and soulful blues guitarists of them all. A master of his generation. Rick - you should definitely do a special on Peter some day.

@mikegranberryii 4 года назад

Peter Green and Danny Kirwan are my fave. Best vibrato.

@joecalandrella3330 4 года назад

Boy, I hate to hear about Peter Green dying. His compositions and voice were equal to his magnificent guitar playing with Fleetwood Mac, which makes him-in my opinion-the best of all the British bluesmen, in whose numbers are Beck and Page and Clapton and Taylor and Mick Abraham’s and Mick Ralph’s and Danny Kirwan and, indeed, Dave Gilmore, among many others... His career as emotionally-stable musician was relatively brief-from his record with John Mayall in ‘65 until his last record with the Mac in ‘69, but his songs-Albatross, Man of the World, Black Magic Woman, Green Manalishi, Oh, Well, et al, are timeless, and evidence of his lyrical and songwriting brilliance as much as his wonderful voice, his guitar skills notwithstanding. He was broken by acid-useful drug, but not in excess- when he left Mac, and fifty years passed, as they are wont to do... He wasn’t a witty virtuoso like Jeff Beck, or a witty genius like Jimmy Page or Mick Abrahams. He was a songwriter and singer par excellence when he did that, and a master bluesman when he played Long Grey Mare and Lazy Poker Blues and Everyday I Have the Blues and How Blue Can You Get, to name a few tunes from my Men of the World album. By the way, listen to Mind of My Own, a Kirwen number that illustrates Peter Green’s expert instruction of Kirwen as well as both of their prowess as British bluesmen, which is a technical and tonal category in itself. Peter Green was a gem. After listening to a few early Mac tunes, I’m gonna play my Heritage Les Paul, as set up by the great Charlie Powers, with upside-down neck pickup.

@wheatonna 4 года назад

How interesting that Rick is discussing this the day before Peter Green died. To me that's almost eerie. So sad.

@DMSProduktions 4 года назад

@@joecalandrella3330 Hear hear!

@mikegranberryii 4 года назад

Anyone hear Peter Green's first solo album, "The End of The Game"? It's so epic! Changed my life lol.

@JohnLnyc 3 года назад

Love the inadvertent “Echoes” issues Rick was experiencing on a video discussion of the “ Gilmour effect”

@HigherPlanes 3 года назад

Turn off reverb.

@RogerBarraud 3 года назад

I see what you did there :-)

@Nostromo1966 Год назад

Regarding David, what to say... he is unique and unrepeatable, his bending technique, his tremolo, his vibrato, his few effects, his way of playing the pentatonic in an unusual way, his phrasing that flows with love and sweetness, his outstanding voice, his art of composing, his skill in various instruments such as steel guitar, bass, drums, saxophone etc etc and his immense charisma as a person, a great person that I have the privilege of having as a friend along with his wife Polly. Humble and generous man, with huge donations and a life free of luxuries. David is simply David, his guitar speaks directly from his heart and that is why he is capable of making me tear up, as a professional composer this says a lot about him.

@jmc250373 3 года назад

It’s not virtuosity vs mistakes, nor planning vs improvisation... it’s all about emotion: feeling and transmitting it. There’s no single correct way to do that, because emotion can’t be a recipe.

@arthurscience 3 года назад

That's not virtuosity though, however important. Virtuosity is a high level of pure technical ability and says nothing about the quality of what is produced with it. In terms of communication of language, factors of virtuosity would be speaking ability in a language, things like vocabulary or pronunciation, but it would NOT be the content of what is said or how meaningful that content is.

@ManCrew 3 года назад

Some people can sing and communicate emotions and feelings. Gilmour has a way of expressing himself through the guitar the same way. Its the difference between a good technical guitarist and the great ones. You don't always have to be the fastest to be amazing. There are some really beautiful melodic licks in his playing and honestly no one else plays quite like he does. Even when I am learning a Pink Floyd song and I am finding the notes he uses it can sound amazing but there are so many things he does that just cant be duplicated as a whole. You can hear Gilmour playing and recognize him almost instantly, like Clapton Hendrix, Van Halen. Gilmour is a one of a kind player.

@bakedbeast689 3 года назад

@@ManCrew well said, i love Gilmour’s playing. in fact he’s my favorite guitarist of all time... you can FEEEEL every bend or note.. he plays with soo much raw emotion. It honestly made me learn how to play

@jed1166 3 года назад

Les Paul once addressed a young super fast shredder ,”Okay, you’re fast kid. BUT, would your mother know it was you playing if she heard you on the radio?”

@TJTinerella 3 года назад

Les PAul was actually a shredder of his day

@TJTinerella 3 года назад

@@darkcranny3851 Agreed but...Les Paul was a groundbreaking guitar player not a luther...he invented multi tracking and he was a blazing fast jazz player...the shredder of his day

@jed1166 3 года назад

@@darkcranny3851 in 2009, Les Paul was named one of the “Top 10 Electric Guitarists” by Time Magazine. In 2011 he was ranked #18 in Rolling Stone Magazines “Top 100 Guitarists,(voters included Eddie Van Halen, Carlos Santana, and Brian May). Inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame by Jeff Beck,(who said he stole lots of Paul’s licks). Inducted into Jazz Hall of Fame. Won 3 “Best Instrumental” Grammys. Given the Grammy Trustees Award for lifetime achievement. Nashville Walk of Fame. Star on Hollywood Blvd. And, look right here on RU-vid and you can listen to him jam the with the likes of Slash, Richie Sambora, Keith Richards, Paul Mc Cartney, and even Zakk Wilde. Luthier??? Surely you jest!

@godfreydaniel6278 3 года назад

@@darkcranny3851 - I'm guessing you're a shredder with a really raw and tender nerve just now. And no, Paul wasn't a luthier - he was a GREAT guitarist - who could chew up and spit out any shredder alive - and ALSO had a gift for melody AND was a brilliant technical innovator. And yes - I can identify dozens of guitarists' tone and style in less than two bars. None of them shredders, coincidently...

@---yx7ti 3 года назад

this quote is supposed to be good?

@RickDelmonico 4 года назад

“Blues is easy to play but hard to feel” (Jimi Hendrix)

@MisterNiles 4 года назад

Why does this rquote emind me of a Beefheart lyric? It's true btw. Jimi was right. Blues or deep feel in general is something some people seem to be born with. And some people can never get it. I wonder if it's in the way people pay attention. Which parts of the structure of sound draw the attention of the player. It's weird. When I was growing up, in my hometown, I was a heralded as the best blues player around (in 9th grade, so no big deal) but I didn't listen to the blues and I even kind of despised it. I was just a natural. Then when I started listening to Frissell, Metheney, Holdsworth, Fripp and others with distinctive styles, I started picking up their style, tone, feel and phrasing without thinking about it. I think it's like a version of Tourettes. Or maybe autism spectrum related. I'm now in my 50s and I'm finally finding my own voice, after struggling to un-sound like other players. I even went as far as rubber banding my index and middle, ring and pinky together for practice. Unlearning is more difficult than learning for some people.

@hedekbass 4 года назад

This. It's not about hard his music is to play, it's how hard it was to come up with it. Any kid can play Jimi tunes decently well within a year of learning guitar. But never in a million years would we have come up with the sounds and compositions that he did. How he blended technological innovation of his time (Leslie, wah, fuzz, feedback), traditional blues licks and propelled them into a new era. What he discovered and invented, we sort of take for granted and build on it, but he literally made us leap decades. Just take Purple Haze, no one was playing like this in 1967. And if it weren't for Jimi, probably no one would have made music like this another 20 years or so.

@peterdaze1 4 года назад

Blues is easy if the player sucks .. gotta make those 5 notes shine .. that aint easy .. is just easy to suck at it..

@balijukka9963 4 года назад

That's why Peter Green stopped playing blues. "I don't want to go back there, it hurts too much."

@gregcable3250 5 месяцев назад

Bingo. Shredders--me, me, me. Non-shredders--the song, the song, the song.

@amberturd6558 2 года назад

Emotional phrases connect to the human soul much deeper than fast scale runs. It's the way we communicate. For example Gilmore says "I love you" while someone like Yngwie M. says: "your physical and emotional aesthetic has been processed by my subconscious, concluding that you are the individual whom arouses the most positive chemical responses within my cerebellum" One is entertaining and has more words but the first one means so much more. I think it's the space simplicity leaves in our own minds that helps make it great, and not just force fed a million scales

@daniel_naaden 4 года назад

Marooned is the most passionate song i've ever heard and i'll take it over pretty much anything

@erikbarrett85 4 года назад

Castellorizon and the solos in On An Island as Blue (I think it's called Blue) are my favorite of all time. Gilmour or anyone

@blakegilliam8223 4 года назад

Rick this type of show is the reason I keep coming back. It's the intelligent monologue that explains concepts hard to put into words.

@BeesWaxMinder 4 года назад

I guess after Roger left I just didn’t pay enough attention to Floyd!! I couldn’t even hum these tunes😳

@Sciffyan 4 года назад

@@BeesWaxMinder what do you mean?

@BeesWaxMinder 4 года назад

Ian Dmitriyevitch Well I was a HUGE fan but after getting bored of all the legal stories of multimillionaires spending more than I could earn fighting over the sex of an inflatable pig, not to mention the gaps between the 3(?) albums I just felt these songs would be something I’d ‘get round to’ eventually but, it seems, I’ve yet to... 🤔

@kilroy2517 4 года назад

“Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art.” So we have guitarists who focus on mastering the guitar, and every ounce of energy is put into being technically excellent, and when they play they want to show us what they've accomplished, and we guitarists are mesmerized for a short while, but eventually it gets boring because while they are incredibly skilled, they are not saying anything. These are the craftsmen of guitar. I'm not naming names because who is a craftsman and who is an artist is highly subjective. I hang out with a lot of very good guitarists, and it seems to me that some of them are spending too much time and energy on craft and not enough on art.

@shoogerkane 4 года назад

very rarely do i listen to music with the sole intention of paying attention to any of the particular instruments, and how well or not they're played. just the final product - the art, the song. often instruments jump out and catch my attention, sometimes not, but when that doesn't happen, it is not a big deal to me.

@iksnivils 4 года назад

Who is that quote from?

@kilroy2517 4 года назад

@@iksnivils Tom Stoppard, I think

@jsf4star891 4 года назад

I think it was fitting that this stream called "The Gilmour Effect" started out with echos....one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs. RIP Rick Wright

@deandewitt5403 4 года назад

Was thinking the same thing.

@gregorymccasland2874 4 года назад

Pink Floyd...delay you need to pack a lunch for.

@phillipgoins1509 4 года назад

Yet, David was never mentioned. Hmm.

@georgemariano2926 2 года назад

David Gilmore played what the song needed, his haunting rythems and leads fit the mood of what the band was trying to convey. Big fan of Pink Floyd, both musically, lyrically and the message of their songs.

@leonardosotero5820 4 года назад

"And now that you don't have to be perfect, you can be good." - John Steinbeck

@finarollerz 3 года назад

Gilmore is an ARTIST he paints in sound.

@georgebrycki8337 4 года назад

There are 2 kinds of guitarists: 1. Guitarists who play music for people 2. Guitarists who play scales for other guitarists

@michaelcameron2292 4 года назад

That's a fair comment

@kospandx 4 года назад

The only problem is that once you start to list the guitarists you would put in category 2, you find people who would put them in category 1. Yngwie Malmsteen is probably the first person people would think of putting in category 1, yet I actually know quite a few fans of his music that have never touched a guitar.

@dougmaser7312 4 года назад

EHnus Lover696 fast is cool and it is difficult. Its made fast and difficult so people who can not play fast or technically can come on here and try to put down fast and difficult music. Ha ha take your metronome off 75bpm and roll it up to 180bpm.

@georgebrycki8337 4 года назад

@@kospandx Well, of course shredders have their fans, who enjoy what they do. That's cool, never meant to imply that shredders aren't musically valid. But, IMO, a shredder's main goal is to impress listeners with their speed. That's why a lot of shredder's "songs" are just boring chord progressions that serve as vehicles for their solos. And that's how you differentiate between a shredder and a guitarist who can play fast. A shredder only has one speed, which is "extremely fast". They never play any other way, even if they're playing blues or a ballad, the solo is always delivered at breakneck speed. To be clear, not every guitarist capable of great speed is a shredder. Gary Moore can play as fast as anyone, but he can also turn around and deliver a beautiful, lyrical guitar solo, like he did for his song "Still Got The Blues". Variety is the spice of life, and it makes music more interesting, to boot!

@kospandx 4 года назад

@@georgebrycki8337 I still think your "shredder" is a strawman. I don't think you'll find a single shredder of any recognition that don't mix up their playing (the closest I can think of would be Akira Takisaki of Loudness fame, but his take is always so musical that he never seems to figure in the lists of guitarists people object to). Perhaps it would be more beneficial to ask: do you have any examples of guitarists you would consider as such?

@BrunoandAnthony Год назад

For me it was the magical merging of the back up instrumentation with Gilmour's melodic phrasing that made PF's sound other worldly.

@MotherboardStandoff 4 года назад

Miles Davis once said:" it's not about the notes you play, but the notes you don't play". Another guitarist that is Gilmour-esque would be Steve Rothery of Marillion. The solos on Easter or Warm Wet Circles are just amazing in terms of flow and phrasing.

@vincentdenismusic 4 года назад

You... have some exquisite taste, my friend.

@mattwatsonthesecrethelicopters 4 года назад

Glad to see Steve Rothery get a mention. So under rated.

@alessandroseravalle3807 4 года назад

Steve's incredible!!! Camel's Andy Latimer, one of his three main influences (the others are Gilmour and the mighty Steve Hackett) is great too...Stationary Traveller solo is so moving...

@leandrojardineiro2502 4 года назад

@@alessandroseravalle3807 Oh yeah. Stationary Traveller was the tune that I first heard from Camel. That solo at the end is amazing

@mightyV444 4 года назад

@Jeroen Van Hoof - Interesting to observe Marillion being mentioned around YT quite a bit lately! :-)

@samuellalruatdika4387 4 года назад

Who is better than who? Why is this even important...me..I don't care if they play 1million notes or just 2 notes...all I care is if their music speak to me and inspire me. We all have different taste and it's one of the biggest driving force in music. It's never going to be tha same. So stick to what you like and don't try to belittle what you don't like.

@acarouselofantics 4 года назад

Good point!

@gizzy2403 4 года назад

Exactly!4 example, remove Keith Richard's from th Rolling Stones & insert any " virtuoso " u want, & do u really they'd b anything close 2 th legends they r now?? I sincerely doubt it....

@samuellalruatdika4387 4 года назад

@@gizzy2403 well said

@kevinski1966 4 года назад

Totally agree. You can play to communicate and exchange or you can play to show off. I know who I would want to listen to.

@Hartlor_Tayley 4 года назад

Yes. When playing music, have something to say and say it well, that’s what most people consider to be good.

@helterskelter1178 4 года назад

Zappa doesn't get enough credit for his playing. Ritchie Blackmore, Terry Kath, Rik Emmett, Duane Allman, Alex Lifeson.

@NorthWriter 4 года назад

Yes! I've been learning a lot of Rush solos the last year or so, and I love how Alex is like that perfect hybrid between a rhythm and a lead player. He can absolutely rip through some amazing solos, but he doesn't do it just for the sake of it. "La Villa Strangiato" is a perfect example of his dynamic playing. Also, Terry Kath is one of the most underrated lead guitarists. The guy had so much soul, both in his singing and his playing. "Poem 58" on Chicago's first album is a constant flow of inspiration and mood.

@briancunningham9037 4 года назад

Blackmore doesn't get enough credit? He definitely does, and rightly so!

@gregorylibby1770 4 года назад

helterskelter1178 Rory Gallagher

@chazboner7041 4 года назад

Ritchie Blackmore’s wig doesn’t get enough credit

@jamesoconnor2226 4 года назад

helterskelter1178 you nailed it my brother.

@WrvrUgoThrUR 2 года назад

Jimmy Page’s solo on ‘Fool In The Rain’ is the perfect balance between shredding, lyrical melody and silence.

@bonglord430 Год назад

Yes love it!

@voidburner8271 4 года назад

Robert Fripp is my favorite, period. No one comes close to his sound. A truely innovated guitarist. 1967-1974 is his golden period

@lessthanpinochet 4 года назад

He's a legit guitar visionary. Invented frippertronics, played slow burning solo's using the sustain of his les paul in the neck pick-up with fuzz and the tone slightly rolled off, if he didn't invented prog-rock he definitely popularized it with King Crimson, probably invented playing ambient soundscapes with the guitar, arguably invented math rock with Adrian Belew on the Discipline album, amazing acoustic player, used the whole tone scale in the mid seventies extensively... the list goes on and on. He's the ultimate creative genius no-one ever talks about.

@Cynthicyzer 4 года назад

Fripp is the one for me too. He pops up anywhere and everywhere. Seems like everyday I discover yet another one of his unique contributions. The latest is a great little solo I only recently found at 6:01 near the end of the fabulous Angel Gets Caught in the Beauty Trap on No-Man’s Flowermouth album released back in 1994. Stunning.

@d_page 4 года назад

Dude fripp was out of everyones game from 1969 to the early 2000s. Construktion of the Light is a perfect exemple, as no song comes close to level of musical finess and perfection.

@gavinreid5387 4 года назад

Great with Bowie ,and Sylvian.

@treffbennett6534 4 года назад

love his work with Brian Eno-listening to Eno's Another Green World right now!

@edwardrobertson2958 3 года назад

One of the wisest things ever put to me as I started being a "real musician"was, the spaces between the notes are every bit as important to the notes themselves. Not exactly as I've heard you say it, but it is a way to let the song "breathe."

@willrichardson519 3 года назад

Musical punctuation

@timbeaton5045 4 года назад

Personally i blame Paganini for starting this whole debate in the first place! And really, we should be over this "X guitarist is the best"..."Y is BETTER than Z" This just too quickly descends into Fanboyism. If you like someone's playing, that's fine. I may not, someone else might be merely indifferent. This is all OK. Trying to compare, say, Gilmour, to Steve Vai, to Guthrie Govan, to Alan Holdsworth, to Prince, to Steve Morse, to Eric Clapton, to Tom Quayle....etc. (That list is a small subset of guitarists that i love listening to). And I can tell them apart pretty much instantly because they all inhabit their own area of music styles and abilities. To paraphrase the crowd outside Brian's window..."They are all individuals!" We should just rejoice in the amazing breadth of musical talent, that we have at our listening pleasure.

@stulora3172 4 года назад

I was waiting for Rick to mention Paganini. And with him it is very obvious that shredding is a circus trick. I don't mean this in a deprecative way. But it is. Smoke, fire, drums, more smoke, the soloist disguised as the devil or whatever. That's how Paganini performed and that's a big part of today's shredding. Again, I am *not* saying it is not an art form, it is not impressive, it is not admirable or enjoyable.

@halfcalkt8367 4 года назад

I mostly agree with your sentiments. I really enjoy George Harrison, Noel Gallagher, Jerry Reed, and Jim Croce. These men are not technical gods, but they speak to me in a way that few can. I can’t tell you what makes them special. When you hear them, you either get it or you don’t. That is one thing that makes music one of man’s greatest creations. I wouldn’t even try to improve upon it because I fear Noel Gallagher’s line “true perfection has to be imperfect” holds a lot of truth in terms of music especially!

@peteo3436 Год назад

I really appreciate the talent of David Gilmore and Brian May. Both are great guitarists but they way they put a solo together that supports the song rather than distracts from it is what makes them special.

@basildog007 4 года назад

Agreed on Metheny. He really is a virtuoso improviser. He can work out any idea, twist it around, build tension, shape it back, and come up with an amazing resolution... He really is the master of tension/resolution on both melodic, harmonic and rythmic grounds. He's a goddamn genius that's what he is...

@jtelevenoyd1571 2 года назад

Just listening to Pat Metheny did more for my guitar playing than any other single thing. I'll never match the man, and I don't even have the nerve to cite him as an "influence," but he's an unrivaled inspiration. I'll always think of him first when the topic of virtuosity comes up.

@newagain9964 2 года назад

@@jtelevenoyd1571 I understand why u mean. He has inspired me to play more. And given me confidence to get out of my safe space. He shows what’s possible technically and melodically.

@johnnynails166 4 года назад

No one ever mentions the fantastically talented Steve Howe of Yes.

@SocialAnimalJC 4 года назад

True!

@msaintpc 4 года назад

Johnny Nails, if you go to a Yes video you'll probably see many comments and videos about Steve Howe.

@johnnynails166 4 года назад

@@msaintpc but that's my point. I'm not at a Yes video assclown. I'm at a video that's discussing virtuosity.

@jimgodofbiscuits 4 года назад

One night while messing around with an acoustic guitar I started a Yes playlist on youtube and was up till 4:00 a.m. totally wrapped up in the music, continuing to strum a bit... the playlist included extraordinary footage of a live show that I since then cannot find, I believe it was taken down but amazing. Steve Howe is as good as most anyone live or otherwise. I saw Yes in '80, always a masterclass in music beyond being very entertaining. I missed Wakeman and Anderson but Trevor Horn was good and Howe amazing as ever and another forgotten great on bass...Chris Squire who I feel doesn't get his due is amazing. . .

@briano.5746 4 года назад

I've always called Steve Howe "The Professor"! And Chris Squire is probably my all time favorite bass wizard.

@WilliamBlackWolf 4 года назад

For anyone slagging off David Gilmour, here’s a task: Give me something, with all your virtuosity, that makes the hair stand up all over your body like ‘Shine on You Crazy Diamond Pts. 1-5’ The man is a genius.

@ilachow 4 года назад

His playing also brings tears to the eyes.

@Hartlor_Tayley 4 года назад

I didn’t read a single comment where someone was slagging off Gilmour.

@stynershiner1854 4 года назад

I am not slagging Gilmour as he is an inspiration to my playing but listen to Jason Becker- Altitudes and tell me that doesn't pack emotion.

@grantgalgey636 2 года назад

I was once watching Clapton with my music loving son who was ten. He said, "who is that guy Dad"? and I replied Eric Clapton, why? I will never forget his answer. This innocent kid said to me, "well .. when I listen to him I get these kinda shivers going up and down my back... " Says it all really.

@j.d.o5709 Год назад

What a great moment. That’s really cool.

@papalaz4444244 4 года назад

So true. I'm drawn to any guitarist who plays the guitar melodically, like a vocalist. Gilmour. Mike Oldfield and others. Every note has inflection, character and feel.

@dogdriver70 4 года назад

George Harrison's playing has that effect on me as well

@Sadowsky46 4 года назад

papalaz4444244 Marco Sfogli can do both: a melodic shredder 😉

@wiseguy9202 4 года назад

Steve Vai has said many times that he attempts to play like a vocalist would sing. For single note inflection, I'd put Gilmour and Gary Moore being in my top 3.

@themojoman 4 года назад

Pavel Sadowsky Marco has such a great feeling for melody and he is a monster shredder. One of my favorite guitarist! Roy Ziv is great as well! 🎸

@papalaz4444244 4 года назад

Invoking certain emotions, might be another metric. I do equate a lot of this with singing. Super fast playing of arpeggios is all technique. It's an amazing skill and has it's moments when placed well. It can just be robotic and repetitive, though. A display of skill rather than music. Narcissism at worst. Obviously it's all subjective.

@etoirelav 4 года назад

I love Gilmour because every single note has a purpose, a weaved ebb and flow, accents, there is ZERO showy play for its own sake.

@johncrafton8319 4 года назад

Gilmour's guitar parts fit the music perfectly. No better guitar could've been made for those songs. That said, he's not a "virtuoso". An amazing, influential guitarist? Yes. A technical marvel capable of playing anything? No. And that's not a bad thing. As long as his music engages you as a listener, nothing else matters.

@michaelheller8841 4 года назад

Gilmore is one of the most underrated Rock guitarists out there. His solos are with feeling and control. Tasty I say. His solos also go with the music played and great song writing. You can hum his music. You can't really hum these sweep picking shredders. Its cool to look at but ends up being Gymnastics and scales from technique. Good for practice, then you get bored. Its not music really. There is a reason why they were rock gods. They expressed a story, through music. You can sit, relax with a pair of headphones and feel good.

@TenorCantusFirmus 4 года назад

Guitarists like Gilmour and Mark Knopfler show to be "virtuosi" also in the fact they can thoroughly and deeply think about the structural, compositive aspect of Music; technical provess is only used as a tool, when music strictly requires it. On the opposite side, some "shredders" not only seem poor in musicality, but also not always technically up-to-task, and that speed and excessive distorsion is sometimes used like the vibrato in singing, or the pedal on piano: to cover technical drawbacks in other areas. A true virtuoso doesn't need to constantly show he can play fast.

@krollpeter 4 года назад

@@michaelheller8841 Mr. Gilmour would never ever claim being a virtuoso. He is well aware of his limitations.

@prinzepeach2751 4 года назад

Call me however tu préfères, Amigo. Lol yeah, how is gilmour underrated?

@Metalbass1979 4 года назад

I've realized that the shredder vs Gilmour playing argument will probably rage on forever. But, I think we can all at least agree that Nigel Tufnel was one of the loudest guitarists ever.

@BarnardsATL 4 года назад

True! 11/10 would recommend.

@pmvoice88 4 года назад

No argument. If anyone wants to get louder they need an amp that goes to 12, which is scientifically impossible.

@ManuelHernandez-do5qt 4 года назад

What's the shredder vs gilmour argument

@kevinmcneeley879 4 года назад

ROFL......Tap! Tap! Tap!

@pmvoice88 4 года назад

@@ManuelHernandez-do5qtThat's a good question.

@michaelbeasley5783 9 месяцев назад

"Shredders are boring." Lol. I'm already there. Rock lead guitar virtuosity exhibited by lenghty blindingly fast fret finger-dancing is objectively impressive and has it's place I suppose. But I often find myself, well, bored because I'm not emotionally moved at a certain point. Whereas the brooding, soaring lead solo in the song "Time" is masterful and moving, in my view.

@dougrobinson8602 4 года назад

Gilmour gets more emotion out of every note than anyone I've heard. Listen to the solos on 'Mother'. Genius.

@ljgarrison6910 4 года назад

I disagree.

@MrWilander88 4 года назад

High hopes can literally make you cry

@spb7883 4 года назад

Frank Zappa: “A virtuoso can play anything. I can’t.”

@hepburnbest9709 3 года назад

Ever the humble hero. If F.Z. had the desire to regurgitate the works of any artist, he would have excelled at it. I'm still amazed when I watch his live performances on RU-vid. His genius can't be denied. Another one to investigate if you doubt.

@user-ve8kl3hw2h 3 года назад

@@hepburnbest9709 I love his Dylan impression in the middle of "Flakes'" but I digress.

@zootallures7003 3 года назад

Yeah, turn zappa loose on his old SG........

@anthonyjones7609 3 года назад

Zappa is the man

@AlanIsHarmony 3 года назад

@@user-ve8kl3hw2h That was actually Adrian Belew, of course.

@MartinMillerGuitar 4 года назад

Some excellent points in this that really spoke to me (improvisation vs. composition, etc.). Thanks, Rick!

@george474747 4 года назад

What I want to know is why all the greatest composers of classical music were also virtuosos. In the history of popular music, I see very little correlation between the greatest song/part writers and the most proficient instrumentalists.

@joejoejohnson8310 3 года назад

@@george474747 it probably depends on what “counts” as being a virtuoso. Bruce Springsteen or Dave Mustaine are classic examples. Show one of their more intense solos to a normal person, even a normal instrumentalist, and they’re blown away. But guitarist virtuoso snobs will say “Bruce is just a songwriter guy trying to shred,” or “but Marty Friedman shreds slightly better because he’s the guitar specialist..” Or conversely, they’ll knock Hendrix’s phenomenal lyric writing as average because he’s not Bob Dylan. The problem is more that people only listen closely to music that they already have a certain opinion of first instead of just going straight to the music and forming their own opinion over time. This isn’t new either. JS Bach was known for just being the Jimi Hendrix of keyboard and organ until he started getting credit for his composition skills over 100 years after his death. Wagner and Schumann are a couple of composers I can think of off the top of my head that are not known to be performers

@kevin1244 2 года назад

Not sure what virtuoso really means or it matters at all but every single solo that Gilmour ever composed is highly listenable; every one of them. Name any other guitar player who has achieved such a status. In fact, none of the four in Pink Floyd were technically anyone to write home about; but their music is levels above anyone else’s. That is virtuoso to me!

@splitzerx570 Год назад

Absolutely nailed it on the head

@scottsmith4145 Год назад

Mark Knopfler

@lumpy9964 11 месяцев назад

If you consider boring ass sleeper nursery rhyme music as “listenable” then sure, you’re correct.

@dodgyg3697 8 месяцев назад

@@lumpy9964Yep ,yer funny.

@KevinSheedy10 Месяц назад

Agree, what’s the point of being a virtuous. It’s just masturbation and willy measuring if the music you produce isn’t worth listening to. It’s like being the longest hitter at golf or the faster bowler etc. It’s basically irrelevant.

@dorianedwards8522 3 года назад

Dave Gilmour will get every single emotion out of the guitar. That's his gift. He understands which emotions can be triggered by which type of sound. He just has it. Like Jimi Hendrix had it. Like Jimmy Page had it. They just got it.

@jeanclaudebertoni6262 2 года назад

Dont forget Carlos Santana

@surethebest 2 года назад

Love his sound but missing many emotions like overwhelming energy; aggression; roughness- as life has every single day; craziness and over boarding joy, that just doesn’t wanna stop and turns into unstoppable excitement. Where are those emotions? There’s nothing in his playing and their music what satisfies these needs and feelings.

@amogsnair10 2 года назад

@@surethebest there’s little in Jimi Hendrix that evokes the sadder feelings as well. Don’t get me wrong. He’s a legend. But he’ll never be able to philosophise on the guitar like Gilmore

@arnoldmmbb 4 года назад

The only Gilmour effect I know its the happiness listening comfortarbly numb solos 😗 Edit, the Beato effect: the happines when rick uploads a new video!! Thanks for the likes guys!!

@RickBeato 4 года назад

Haha!

@arnoldmmbb 4 года назад

@@RickBeato also the beato effect... the happines when you upload a new video!!!! 😂

@ericedmunds9488 4 года назад

Or any Gilmour solo!

@daniel_naaden 4 года назад

actually Marooned is better

@davidmiller9485 4 года назад

@@RickBeato question? is Neil Sedaka a virtuoso? He was to represent the United States at the 1966 Tchaikovsky classical piano competition in Moscow, however his "rock and roll" songs got the Russian to disqualify him. (he did play "Fantaisie Impromptu" on I've go a secret). He also wrote most of Connie Francis's songs. (well him and Greenfield). Is he a Virtuoso? Edit: sometimes i think i'm getting to old to type... maybe i need a nap!

@gtrbri98 4 года назад

Gilmour himself said that he just could not physically move his fingers very fast, but his magic was in those big beautiful soaring bends and vocal-like vibrato that he would subtly wiggle at the end of a note like a trained opera singer. The Gilmour-effect is a thing because his playing is both beautiful, evocative and memorable.

@bighenry6633 4 года назад

Gilmour is a singer, shredders are rappers.

@thegreatsoutherntrendkill272 4 года назад

@@bighenry6633 Nah, depends on the "shredder".

@MisterNiles 4 года назад

I believe that "wiggle" is the technical term used by opera singers. I'm just picturing an insufferable, stuffy academic, proclaiming loftily, with his nose in the air, "Maria Calas not only had a beautiful tone, but the way she wiggled notes at the end of a phrase was exquisite."

@gtrbri98 4 года назад

MisterNiles haha...yes I like to call my vibrato bar a “wiggle stick”. Does vocal jiggle sound any more professional?

@mrnelsonius5631 4 года назад

Gilmour is so invested in the sounds he’s making, so “in it” I’ve watched videos where he is turning a compressor on and off throughout his solo to sustain notes. I had never thought to do that until I watched him. He’s really hearing what he’s doing and reacting and shaping everything intently in real time. It’s beautiful stuff. It’s not just notes coming out, it’s the sound of it he’s living in

@vincenzoaccount9268 2 года назад

David Gilmour comes from another planet.... is incomparable, for anyone. Genius, poet and master.

@talbotdarren 3 года назад

Roy Clark was a multi instrument virtuoso. He could literally shred or improvise on any stringed instrument.

@MichaelMaxwell747 3 года назад

All while being a great performer and entertainer. Always welcome in my living room!

@drvee1983 3 года назад

Good call! Agreed.

@jimwalsh2001 3 года назад

Truly a musician's musician.

@stevesims2243 3 года назад

Wrecking Crew

@vincentblackpool8731 3 года назад

Yes, I've watched a great many RU-vid videos of him playing over the past few months. He's funny too. Which bring Jim Stafford to mind. :)

@mchristr 3 года назад

"Comfortably Numb". It drills down to my soul, even after hearing it hundreds of times.

@kaindog100 3 года назад

Live at Pompeii is my favourite version.

@docamosroxie8686 3 года назад

@@kaindog100 Yes....I thought before seeing his 2016 Pompeii......after playing that solo live for 40 years....how can he change it much without changing original flavor??.......but damned if he didn't pull it off....true master!

@Isaiah_McIntosh 3 года назад

Honestly dont get the appeal of that song. It's always been extremely boring to me no matter how many times I try to listen to it. For a while it put me off trying floyd since I assumed all the music would be like comfortably numb until I just decided to go back to a bunch of old prog albums and listened to dark side of the moon which was amazing.

@docamosroxie8686 3 года назад

@@Isaiah_McIntosh I too find the verses boring these days....its more about Gilmour guitar phrasing for us wanna be players.

@Isaiah_McIntosh 3 года назад

@@docamosroxie8686 The solo. It's just uninspiring to me. I get more inspired to play guitar listening to pianists or saxophonists than I do when I listen to that solo. There just isn't anything that really pulls me. I thought I was maybe being too virtuoso obsessed so I tried it out for my mother and it was more or less the same reaction. Clearly a very well considered and composed song and solo but nothing to give me goosebumps.

@FKA_Skull 4 года назад

Shredding just doesn’t elicit any emotional response from me, that’s why I don’t care about it. It’s cool, it’s technical, but it doesn’t make me feel anything.

@Geotubest 4 года назад

Agreed.. I can only take about 20 seconds of it and then want to totally close it down.

@stephenfeister1176 4 года назад

I disagree. It really depends on the person tho. Neither side is right or wrong

@elonmush4793 4 года назад

I love when shredders try to impress me and all I can do is to yawn in their face.

@aztro187 4 года назад

Listen to some of dimebags solos... Fcking awesome

@sdubon7800 4 года назад

FKA Skull Even Buckethead gets bored shredding,-he does it masterfully-and switches gears so you can hear his soul come through the notes.

@namnik1 Год назад

David does play 4 notes as a theme in many songs and moves the listener beyond the music. When a musician produces a full range of emotions with minimal notes, he/she wins.

@akip7627 4 года назад

Title: David Gilmour Content: 1% Gilmour 99% something else

@giannapple 4 года назад

Hmmm... no, the title is “David Gilmour EFFECT”. Content: 1% Gilmour, 99% EFFECT.

@ClaudeGohier 4 года назад

@@giannapple More like 99%: examples of what is not the Gilmour Effect.

@ymelfilm 4 года назад

There s not much left to talk about Gilmour. He is very good. But the guitarists' World is much wider

@markstudden9090 4 года назад

Jeeze, what a snarky remark. It's Rick riffing. Everybody who's here knows what he's talking about, and most of us are happy to listen to his ramble around the subject. We learn things from his experience and his commentary. If you want to analyse his musings and then put up a comment like that, you're in the wrong place, old son. Go count trains, or watch paint dry with a stopwatch or something.

@NeilMalthus 4 года назад

@@Acrocanthosaurus He's extremely knowledgeable and very likeable but boy does he go on.

@donvineyard8654 4 года назад

David Gilmore is the Only guitarist that has made me cry simply from their playing. Absolutely stunning. The emotions he unleashes is profound; Comfortably Numb. I take that over fast every day.

@dixienormous2440 4 года назад

GILMOUR.

@sonicfrogdotnet 4 года назад

I put Mark Knopfler in the same category. Some of his solos are as breathtaking as anything

@66biker95 4 года назад

Yes, clearly Don Wineyard is a big Gilmour fan.

@EOHRyan 4 года назад

Guthrie Govan makes me cry, when I realise I'll never be that good.

@stoneymcrock7649 4 года назад

I hear you man, find me a more powerful, emotional, killer solo than the second solo in Comfortably Numb...

@martigras87 4 года назад

Two virtuosos who deserve more recognition- Rory Gallagher and Gary Moore. We’re a small country but we produce huge talent 🇮🇪

@paulneeds 4 года назад

I jammed with Rory once, in a London guitar store. What a lovely gentleman..

@RC-xi1xb 4 года назад

Very true!

@toddskinski 4 года назад

Ireland has to have the highest, per capita, musical talent in the world!

@21mph12 4 года назад

Rory's the man.

@iqi616 4 года назад

Gary's rock work was phenomenal. Out In The Fields guitar solo is short but brilliant.

@davidkopec9442 Год назад

Every note is memorable. So melodic, always emotional, always meaningful.

@mwobbe66 4 года назад

EVH sort of bridges this definition, right? Incredible skills, shreds, and writes the most sublime rhythm parts.

@RickBeato 4 года назад

Yes

@OutOnTheTiles 4 года назад

.....and Page.

@tribeshift 4 года назад

Plus Eddie has fantastic blues phrasing, something which many shredders totally lack.

@toddb9311 4 года назад

Phil X did a nice piece on EVH. Eddie does all that and swings, too.

@tribeshift 4 года назад

@@toddb9311 - yeah, I saw that video where he covers "I'm The One" and explains that even he can't quite get Eddie's sense of swing.

@johnulrich5572 4 года назад

Les Paul a virtuoso ? Yes, and an innovator and an inventor and he played well into old age.

@CkYAll1anc3 4 года назад

He was an amazing Jazz musician.

4 года назад

Now this one, I agree.

@tomleahy5383 4 года назад

I really liked the record 'spaces', Larry coryell John McLaughlin. Oldie but a goodie. Caught a good set with coryell and Phil Upchurch at a small club in Chicago. Also took some b+w photos with tri-x asa 400 pushed processed to 1600 no flash early '70s. I've never heard of most of the folks you mentioned, and yes, I've been living under a rock, but now, I've got a list (yours) of prospects to check out. Thank you, Rick.

@morfeophantasm7435 3 года назад

Robin Trower is an amazing guitarist .. his emotionally bluesy phrasing and riffs are haunted .

@RaymondBCrisp 3 года назад

I'll second that.

@paulpower7018 3 года назад

Definitely!

@maestroaxeman 3 года назад

What's really cool about Trower is his TONE alongside his skill. He literally played his guitar tuned a full step down with heavy gauged strings. His sound & technique is off-the-hook.

@morfeophantasm7435 3 года назад

@@maestroaxeman that unique tone is what makes it haunted yo .. he and Hendrix are the top 2 in my book .

@robertmackenzie2808 2 года назад

@@morfeophantasm7435 what about rory?

@PianoUniverse Год назад

I remember a Gilmour quote "The space between the notes are as important as the notes themselves."

@michaelspedding783 4 года назад

Jeff Beck said it himself. "Sometimes the best notes are the ones you don't play."

@petesweet8504 4 года назад

Yes, Miles Davis said it's the silence between the notes!

@tablameister 4 года назад

@@petesweet8504 Exactly. Sometimes it is playing a note and letting that note resonate, in the listener's mind in the silence that follows that note, that makes that note all that more meaningful. Knowing when NOT to play is just as important as knowing when to play. This is a pet peeve of mine, particularly with drummers and percussionists - many don't know when not to play (e.g., to cut back on how much they play) and I have heard soulful performances ruined by drummers and percussionists who feel they have to fill in every possible millisecond and end up overplaying. Many fail to listen to what the other musicians are playing and how the other musicians are playing (e.g., speed, intensity, mood being conveyed etc.) and fail to adjust their own playing to match that.

@jillevers4710 4 года назад

I wasn't sure who said that (I thought it was Clapton) but thanks for that quote. It's 200% true thank you!

@maekong2010 4 года назад

Abso-f*cking-lutely.

@oligohome 4 года назад

Leaving space is so important. It gives the audience the opportunity to catch up the goodness you just played.

@double-a4834 4 года назад

As a fan of 60's and 70's guitarists I felt that shredders like Satriani were cold, clinical and un-interesting...until I got a chance to see him live. Wow. All the technique of the albums plus connectivity, and emotion.

@McGuire40695 4 года назад

Exactly! I feel very similiar listening to artists of all eras. I feel like most people say these shredders are "lifeless." I've seen so many players online of all different levels, and actually seeing the person play (whether it's a live performance from Satriani or Vai or a random video of an unknown artist), watching how they play will show their emotions as they play. For every lifeless and bland "shredder" (the "scale runners" as I call them), I see an equally or greater amount of poor blues guys who can barely phrase or bend in tune. It's just as bad as those people who learn to JUST play Flight of the Bumblebees to break world records. Guys like Vai and Gilmour, Satriani and Hendrix, etc are all great. Some guys play more intricate lines than the others, but they are all great players.

@phlie 4 года назад

Satriani live is amazing indeed.

@forbesjeff 4 года назад

Satriani and Vai are great. And not everything they do is pure shredding, either. Malmsteen, on the other hand... great guitarist, but not capable of writing an interesting song.

@nickangelo3283 4 года назад

One of the challenges is that most of us consider the word “virtuoso” to be a qualitative analysis. Like, it’s preferable to be a virtuoso as opposed to not being one. Virtuoso, is mostly a technical term and applies to a lot of things other than music. Music is a unique case because it also includes an emotional aspect that is beyond technique. Saying that Modern Guitar Player X is a virtuoso while Hendrix was not, doesn’t mean that player X is “better” than Hendrix. They may be more technically proficient than Jimi was, but music is much more than technicality. It’s not an insult to say someone is not a virtuoso. In fact, it may be more challenging to be a guitarist that speaks to people while showing off virtuosity. My point is that it’s not an insult to say that your favorite guitar player is not a virtuoso, and we don’t all need to defend those players by saying we’d rather listen to them over some modern shredder. Both things can be true. The most technically advanced guitarists can be alive today, and all our favorites can be in the past. Music is about so much more than technique, but great technique is also something to be appreciated.

@Vanhelwig 4 года назад

You essentially articulated what I was thinking. Agreed on all accounts.

@taunokekkonen5733 4 года назад

I've always thought of virtuosity as being infinitely recognisable. Knopfler, YJM, Dime, Eric Johnson, Tosin, Vai, Satriani, Gilmour... one bar and you know.

@MahirParekh 4 года назад

Amazed by how much sense you made. (No sarcasm).

@harrydehnhardt5092 4 года назад

@@taunokekkonen5733 You have to put Santana in this line too. Not the greatest "technician" but you recognize him immediately. And not to forget Jeff Beck.

@TheChristOfRockNRoll 4 года назад

@@harrydehnhardt5092 And partly instantly recognizable due to his signature guitar sound just like Brian May which in this video Rick said does not fall under the category of virtuoso.....but just like Santana conveys a lot of feel and emotion in their melodic guitar solos. While I tend to agree with the argument that the term "virtuoso" seem to focus much more on technical expertise and ability to display a large number of diverse chops....for me I would rather concentrate on the question "who is the more effective artist?" whom through their playing touches a part of you with their playing in a way that makes you feel alive and connected to the cosmic zest of life making you aware that there is much more to life than the material universe. For every note a guitar artist doesn't play (the empty spaces in their phrasings) it is an invisible note that complete the totality of the phrases played......what you don't play matters just as much as what you play essentially making the old adage "less is more" a truism and very "zen" like. For me an example of such a guitarist is Steve Rothery from the neo-prog rock UK band Marillion (the first 4 albums in particular from the Fish era). Very Gilmouresque.

@jklappenbach Год назад

I think if Nuno has taught us anything, it's that shredding is and will always be a valuable skill. The key is to be intuitive about what to play, when to play it. Shred or go with a steady hand when the moment calls for it. It's not one or the other.

@DavidLasoff 4 года назад

Steve Howe, Chris Squire (RIP) both of Yes, both innovators and virtuosos

@lylesmith9547 4 года назад

My thought also

@DrakeSteve 4 года назад

And I would definitely add Steve Hackett to the list-- he's absolutely amazing on both electric and acoustic.

@johnhendricks8140 4 года назад

Tony McAlpine is another super shredder and he puts down great melodic idea's, seeing him play with Steve Vai was eye opening.

@arttuuusisalo8709 3 года назад

Buckethead was lightning fast but still had way more songs with beautiful melodies and calm themes. Improvised them live too!

@Sasquatch10 3 года назад

So true! The electric tears & electric sea are absolutely gorgeous! He's the most underappreciated guitarist and it's not even close.

@darthvader1515 3 года назад

If you want a perfect example of beautiful shredding by Mr.B ,y'all should check out The Unknown Song by him. Truly a hidden gem of his

@shamvette 4 года назад

I think Carlos Santana needs to at least be mentioned as part of this "Gilmour Effect". His lines are tasteful, creative and can be very improvised when needed.

@karmpuscookie Год назад

Not unique though.

@johnmcaleese8459 11 месяцев назад

@@karmpuscookie I'm a fan of Carlos but he can't hold a stick to the likes of David Gilmore.

@b.justiceforall9544 2 года назад

A virtuoso to me is one who plays music in in such a way that are so different that makes the sound unique but not just to the ears but through the emotions they give you; So yes for me David Gilmour is a virtuoso.

@Immacu_late 4 года назад

I think Hendrix was a genius in the way he was able to create a style on the electric guitar. ‘Hear my train’ live at Berkeley is astounding at the endless musical ideas. He inspired others like SRV and Eric Johnson. To say he is not a virtuoso is something subjective. Miles Davis wanted to use Hendrix because Jimi COULD play. Music is subjective. What’s relative is that to play music as well as the virtuoso is to combine the skill with the creativity to express the musical piece as an ultimate experience. The ‘Gilmor effect’ is the experience of listening to his ‘playing’ and how it leaves the listener, elevated by the experience, by his commitment to his pursuance of producing musical sound on the guitar.

@MrRozburn 4 года назад

Hendrix was sloppy but I still love his playing

@RichardMcLamore 4 года назад

@@MrRozburn a dude who can't nail the rhythm part to johnny f'n b goode uh . . . . dude innovated and then got sloppy as hell.

@GospelBluesMan 4 года назад

Hendrix was good yes and influenced many yes. Yet he built on what others did before him. Buddy Guy , Guitar Slim , etc. For me though I prefer SRV doing Hendrix more than Hendrix doing Hendrix. SRV just plays it cleaner while Jimmie was after the crazy tones and sounds and distortions.

@Immacu_late 4 года назад

@@GospelBluesMan SRV never pushed the boundaries like Jimi. Hendrix didnt get "sloppy" because he wasn't a virtuoso but because he was forced to play what the public wanted, its obvious some of his live performances showed little enthusiasm. Hendrix wasn't sloppy, he was a force of nature and for the time a vituoso on the electric guitar.

@GospelBluesMan 4 года назад

@@Immacu_late At that time in the 60's there was more than one pushing boundaries. Janis Joplin 's band comes to mind , but not the only one. To say SRV didn't push at boundaries is not quite accurate. He put together a style of blues playing widely copied now days. Yet that didn't come out of now where. Listen to Albert King. Same with Hendrix if you would have been able to see Buddy Guy live back then you would know. I am not saying Hendrix wasn't important in guitar history. He was very important.

@DizzyKrissi 4 года назад

If i want to be impressed I watch the likes of Malmsteen - if I want to enjoy music I listen to Knopfler, Gilmour etc.

@megadownable 4 года назад

listen to john 5 and experience both at once

@SexycuteStudios 4 года назад

Buckethead is the best of both worlds.

@2010njdevil 4 года назад

Well said!!

@jakezywek6852 4 года назад

Load of bollocks. Malmsteen is a great composer. Playing fast does not remove song writing abilities. He's written loads of emotional solos.

@DizzyKrissi 4 года назад

@@jakezywek6852 : I even transcribe parts of Yngwie's solos. But his playing is very predictable and exhausting to listen to - I have to admit that his vibrato his awesome but he still overplays.

@akablank3886 4 года назад

Gilmour just seems to always hit the right note and the right time. I'll take that over a million notes a second

@GuyNarnarian 4 года назад

Well put. I enjoy a good shredded solo once in a while but if its the only trick in the bag, then usually its not for me. Van Halen could shred but he also did everything else well.

@leescuderi8331 4 года назад

Agreed....the solo to Comfortably Numb is one of the best IMO

@aaron6841 2 года назад

Shredders are boring always been the same it goes in phases people get impressed lose interest and forget about it. Where as artists like Gilmour will always be relevant and appreciated.

@darylking265 4 года назад

"SRV could break a string and not play a bad note." Best line in the video

@davidhubbell1622 4 года назад

gilmour would sing all of his solos through a tape recorder then figure it out on guitar. it's why those solos are iconic and so musical. it doesn't matter if you shred or you spent all your time work on your vibrato, what matters is was it mindless or was there a lot of thought put into it? jimmy page certainly put a lot of thought into his solos as well. you can here the thoughtfulness into the parts and that's all that matters. shredders are dope too if it's thoughtful. randy rhoads composed every solo on that first ozzy record note for note. that's why they rule.

@zeppelinmexicano 4 года назад

Page's solos all told stories, but how about Since I've Been Loving You? Damn. If you can get that shred plus all that vibrato down right, that's saying something. But Jimmy also didn't mind riding the edge where he could make mistakes. It takes a certain personality to do that. I think most of us are trained to not make mistakes as our first perogative, and that may be a mistake in itself.

@stuartanthony6409 4 года назад

I think you'll find that he improvised almost everything. Clapton used the tape recorder though.

@fredlougee2807 4 года назад

@@zeppelinmexicano Page owned being sloppy and not the most technically proficient guitarist out there. There were things he was about and things he wasn't. I remember reading an article where Nuno was asked what the first thing that ran through his mind when he learned Extreme was going to be touring with Coverdale/Page and he said that he wanted to ask Jimmy why he had to go and write every single rock lick and not leave any for anybody else.

@deSerresFamJam 4 года назад

The limitation on shredding is that they largely appeal to guitarists who enjoy the technicals. It's a very niche group. There are so many top shredders who feel soulless and excessive and to have missed the boat on what musics about for most people. Speed reaches a point of diminished returns and many mentioned in these comments have passed it. Gilmour's career was predicated on playing in the sweet spot, and doing it in such a contrasting manner to speed guitarists that you can't ignore how much he gets done on an emotional level that many speeders never touch, or never seem to care to touch.

@unconventionalguitarist9129 3 года назад

All depends what you feel like listening to

@fraa888grindr6 2 года назад

The echo was entertaining. I turned 13 in 1980. I've heard all the shredders. I found a lot of it a wee bit boring and indistinguishable often times because it seemed to become melodic-lite and felt detached from the piece it was in the midst of - like I was listening to a completely different song. All the great musicians play their part perfectly when it supports the piece as a whole. That's why George Harrison and Ringo Starr were so underrated - they were all about doing what made each song the best. Most shredders seem to lose sight of that concept.

@johnc.8298 3 года назад

Glen Campbell was an amazing player. He knew what notes he wanted to play and did so with precision and feel. My two favorite players are Gilmour and Santana. Truly neither of them are shredders or virtuoso's but they are so melodic in their lines and have a great sound. Each add tasty nuances to each note they use whether it be vibrato, bending, etc. They also have a feel for meaningful phrasing.

@skyhorseprice6591 3 года назад

Glen Campbell can SHRED. Seriously.

@DanielCastillo-cn3pp 2 года назад

Absolutely. He was a Wrecking Crüe session member

@simbad909 2 года назад

Surprisingly yup...and he could do like hendrix and such ...over his head behind his back ..never saw him use us toenails but bet he did in his private bathrooms lol

@steverodgers8425 4 года назад

Steve Howe takes the guitar in so many directions he certainly qualifies as a virtuoso.

@Guitarplayer724 4 года назад

For sure!

@steliosposeidon6871 4 года назад

I was lucky to see Mr Howe with Yes play 5 years ago and he was without a doubt the most fired up and passionate guitar player I ever saw in concert and totally in command of his faculties at 70-odd. “Parallels” on the Stratocaster really was something to behold! I also love David Gilmours guitar playing and what a master of space and tone he is.

@paulomauriciorpinto2334 4 года назад

He is hors concours, also Steve Hackett.

@LukoHevia 4 года назад

Yeah. He's a complete virtuoso, with the plus that he did it when rock was used to a much lower technical level. He took it way further

@mattmarkus4868 4 года назад

absolutely! wish he got more attention here

@Sarconthewolf 4 года назад

Gilmour is one of my favorites. Joe Satriani is another. There are many more. Speed is fun, but the creativity in creating songs is a gift. I hold that more important.

@johnfrenette 4 года назад

Sarcon I’m personally not i\one for the Satriani-Vai guitar gymnast thing, but I will say Satriani had a knack for creating *texture* with his two-hand tapping stuff. Hard to explain it, but I hear some of his tapping stuff as a collection, not a stream of individual notes, and it becomes a sort of audible *fabric* or mesh. It’s very curious.

@wds525 Год назад

Such a great and so intelligent analysis! Watching "The Great Gig in the Sky" and every other song in Lisbon back in 1994 was a highlight in my life. What I felt is indescribable.

@iqi616 4 года назад

The solo on Money is quite simply perfect.

@augustearth 4 года назад

And, One of these Days, and Time, and Comfortably Numb, and Another Brick in the Wall pt II, and Not Now John, and Young Lust, and Dogs, and Have a Cigar, and...

@dennis1954 4 года назад

Money is the reason I saw Pink Floyd live March 1973 in Chicago. The played their older stuff like “Childhood’s End” but “Money” and the DSOTM album was where I was at then. Although hearing their newer stuff I never really followed their other albums until RU-vid’s algorithm kept throwing my past back into my face. Gilmour is my main goto guy now. His solos are the musical transport “ Time” machine that take me back to that concert quite often.

@gilbertodotticesa2141 4 года назад

Yes!!!!!!!!!⚡⚡⚡⚡

@luisalextorres 4 года назад

i like eric johnson because his playing ranges from more than one style and each style he makes his own. he can play jazz, country style, blues, fusion, pop even. maybe not as popular as EVH who pushed guitar to that capacity ( after hendrix, clapton, and beck of course) but still managed to successfully to fuse those styles with the frame of a classical composer and the capacity of improvisation allan holsworth.

@sschmidtevalue 4 года назад

I like Eric Johnson because he can shred the hell out of his guitar but most of the time he chooses not to. Then when he does, it has its moment and it stands out more.

@sdubon7800 4 года назад

Luis Torres Thanks for reminding us. I tend to keep my Ah Via Musicom CD in my car. Great traveling music. He’s wonderful in concert, and entirely underrated.

@ERNesbitt 4 года назад

I remember reading the best description. It was something along the lines of: "You could hand him an out of tune ukulele and it would still sound like Eric Johnson."

@thejoker-go3fh 2 года назад

Can u suggest some tunes from eric johnson

@luisalextorres 2 года назад

@@thejoker-go3fh desert rose, cliffs of Dover, east wes, forty mile town, Steve’s boogie, Bristol shore, friends, soulful terrain, venus isle, Manhattan, when the sun meets the sky, trail of tears

@9chadj 4 года назад

Roy Buchanan. If you’re unaware look him up.

@MichaelandCathy1999 4 года назад

You said it brother, hail Roy.

@sdubon7800 4 года назад

Chad Moore Thanks for bringing him up. I love to play He Will Come Again...lucky to have seen him in San Jose back in I think ‘76. What a concert.

@9chadj 4 года назад

S Dubon sadly/happily I only found him a few years ago. He’s amazing. What he can get out of the guitar, that requires others to use pedals and effects, is astounding.

@sdubon7800 4 года назад

Chad Moore Jeff Beck revered him. Too bad he died so young-mysteriously in jail. But his albums live on.