The God of Computer Coolers - 5000W Industrial Chiller

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It is nearly impossible to cool Intel’s 13th gen CPUs.. so we got a 5000W industrial chiller!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Nothing can cool the i9-13900K
1:10 - Build Redux!
1:15 - How we got a 5000W Chiller
2:16 - Opening it up
4:02 - Positive Displacement Pump
5:45 - Flushing the Chiller
9:06 - Test loop
11:21 - Testing with Computer
13:19 - Other potential uses
14:20 - Overclocking
16:59 - Goliath Technologies
17:55 - Outro

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@Foggifog Год назад

As a Thermo Fisher Scientific Employee, its awesome to see our products being used by you guys :)

@APF3LKUCH3NLP Год назад

Hot damn! Do i see a collab incoming? Using this for testing waterblocks and the like seemed like a great idea!

@mashakos1 Год назад

Now make one with RGB /s

@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse Год назад

Seriously, if you don't manage to get some nice advertising out of this I'll have to question your managements' competence :D.

@genfunk8209 Год назад

@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse Thermo Fisher is a big name, just not in these parts :)

@expierreiment Год назад

Send them some -80°C Ultrafreezer from Thermo and let's see how CPU's behave in there.

@AtomicDig Год назад

Linus is probably gonna run an entire industrial complex just to cool a computer one day

@TheMetroidblade Год назад

Isn’t that quantum computing?

@richardgarrett2792 Год назад

Vid should be out next week IIRC.

@TheSimonarne Год назад

liquid cooling with a liquid nitrogen loop

@TinchoX Год назад

You can *BET* on it

@daltonmckee4788 Год назад

Liquid oxygen system used for MRI magnet purge?

@Penguin-qp2wk Год назад

I love how the first thing Alex wants to do with it is basically the whole room water cooling project again, lmao.

@Gartral Год назад

that was my first thought. WRWC done right, and not pissing into a bathtub

@mareli82 Год назад

i might acualy work with that cooler

@Nylle_ Год назад

That was a fun series, really hope they choose to revisit it now that they have this thing.

@cubertmiso Год назад

Yeah. Linus looks like Edward Witten next to Alex.

@deltasixgaming Год назад

Its kind of Backwards though this would be a Room Full of PC instead of a Whole Room full of Cooling

@xyzzy12345 Год назад

This fits broadly into my favourite subgenre of LTT videos - "Alex Builds Something Scuffed" but oddly this one didn't have much of Alex building something scuffed. Hopefully this is just the first of a series of increasingly scuffed projects starring this chiller.

@9Flatline Год назад

Also my favorite genre

@rubiconnn Год назад

It would be great but the camera/editing kind of sucks. They keep zooming in to show the temps or graphs but then cut away after like half a second so you have to go back and even see what they are talking about, like at 11:53

@cmeier360 Год назад

@@rubiconnn Thats a soild 10 seconds, more then enough time to read it, or atleast pause the video

@VM-lt9wl 6 месяцев назад

Did you imagine it would be a bed? LOL

@BinkySears Год назад

If you mix propylene glycol into the water you can run below 0 c. Also, I'm pretty sure somewhere in the manual it will say not to run below something like 14 c without adding antifreeze. If you were able to look into the reservoir you would see the evaporator coil is likely coated in ice at the conditions you're running.

@FavoritesAG Год назад

They should definitely add inhibited glycol inside the cooling loop (>25%). Ethylene glycol should be fine too and has better thermals

@zagnut48219 Год назад

@@FavoritesAG Ethylene Glycol is more toxic though in comparison to Propylene Glycol.

@ionstorm66 Год назад

The chiller likely won't go that low without modification to the controller. I have an aquarium chiller and it stops at 0C. I installed pot parallel with the thermistor to offset the reading to get it to run lower.

@Tuhopolttaja Год назад

@@zagnut48219 Only when ingested, or are you a thirsty boy who likes to drink coolants?

@littlejackalo5326 Год назад

@@zagnut48219 mOrE ToXiC. Grow a pair

@MrMartinSchou Год назад

Next up - testing it on a completely delided 13900K. Also, this is an effective way to test the difference between thermal compounds. Since the CPU can thermal throttle with this on it, you can use the scores to see which is better. And can be used to test the most efficient water cooling blocks with the same logic.

@MCtomgie Год назад

Would love for them to do a direct die cooling solution

@Sevi-The-Heavy Год назад

Yes. I would love to see this

@bacon.cheesecake Год назад

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS I WAS THINKING THIS THE WHOLE TIME

@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse Год назад

@@Prophes0r You get that with or without the IHS but the IHS already introduces two more material interfaces that make you lose efficiency. Of course the issue with the die being too small for the wattage will remain but at least you remove two bottlenecks.

@zqzj Год назад

Yeah great idea

@lmic891 Год назад

Chiller development team member here. The compressor is not cycled in a laser application, they vary the cooling capacity by use of an electric expansion valve. It can be seen behind the compressor by the evaporator (which is not in the tank, it's attached to the back panel) Btw, SMC (a competitor to Thermo Scientific) offers rack mount chillers up to 5kW and with the 0.1 degree tolerance.

@amanawolf9166 Год назад

Those things are beasts, being quite impressive. Last time I saw one was in use to chill an ICP, maybe ICP-MS. I can't remember the type of analyzer.

@jamesladeau419 Год назад

There’s a ton of chillers that have more capacity than this, especially if you run engineered fluid

@lmic891 Год назад

@@jamesladeau419 Definitely, and ones that could go sub-zero. I would love to see Linus do a submerged build with galden.

@DrakkarCalethiel Год назад

This is it, the mother of all chillers! Those 18C full load on that 4090 made me giggle like a child in a candy store. This thing is just stupid bonkers, we need a whole series with that boy!

@Outland9000 Год назад

'Will it Chill?'

@DrakkarCalethiel Год назад

@@Outland9000 Good series idea. xD

@Morgan-ed2cb Год назад

Yeeessssss

@Tiger11246 Год назад

R u a furry

@DrakkarCalethiel Год назад

@@Tiger11246 Wrong comment?

@arjunyg4655 Год назад

This is absolutely wild. I wish they made this a 30-40 minute video with more explanation of the coolant temp effect on the CPU and GPU performance, and did some more serious CPU/GPU benchmarking with comparison graphs to show the improvement possible vs their normal water loop. Really they should just do a part 2.

@greatestNothin Год назад

...and you've just subscribed at floatplane.

@lester44444 Год назад

I imagine longevity of a piece of equipment would be just as important as performance when looking at temps though - if we do get data on performance relative to coolant temp, it'd be important to temper it with information on CPU and GPU health.

@benji_games_ Год назад

I think this is exactly what Labs can provide. A more in depth look at what is happening with actual data. Waaaay beyond what the average user would want but well within what the curious among us would be interested in.

@oldfrend Год назад

@@elbeetlebeasto do you mean de-lidding it and bolting on a custom heat transfer plate? fuckin wild.

@arcumlux Год назад

So glad this all came together! Turned out awesome!!! I'm happy you guys are getting some use out of my garage junk :) Edit: There's a link to this channel on the footer of my website, yes this is legit.

@lalzou1500 Год назад

Hero

@martintuskevicius8084 Год назад

Thanks for making this video happen!

@rattymahatty8456 Год назад

Not sure if this is the real thing, your channel was created today?

@mjdevlog Год назад

Thank you for your help john! Awesome content from them!

@mjdevlog Год назад

Thank you for your help john! Awesome content from them!

@trevorkieft7683 Год назад

Awesome vid! A few notes from someone who works in a physics laboratory with these regularly: cooling a 5000W fiber laser doesn't mean it has 5000W of cooling power since unlike cpus, most of the power in a laser is emitted in light form, not in heat form. Just something to keep in mind if you try to push it to the limit. Also we have building-wide processed chilled water loops for equipment cooling with those exact yellow valves

@kiddy1992 Год назад

A note from someone who uses those chillers. if the chiller specifies 5KW of capacity they can remove the equivalent of 5KW of heat from a system. It has nothing to do with a laser. Linus just happens to have gotten only the laser power figure for reference.

@raptor4916 Год назад

Unless laser efficiency has improved since I last looked but aren't most laser less than 1% or effecient?

@Dell-ol6hb 10 месяцев назад

Well it depends if the cooler is claiming that it is for cooling a 5000 W laser or if it is claiming that is has a 5000 W cooling capacity, if it’s the latter then yes it able to handle up to 5000 W of heat energy

@DainHeath Год назад

I can’t wait for the video where they delid, liquid metal, and use Corsairs new direct die CPU water block on a 13900KS, for some insane cinebench and perhaps even gaming results with this chiller. Throw in some GPU over clocking, and that’s a sick video!

@vinaykajla5253 Год назад

They did it

@dhoome1234ify 9 месяцев назад

They did, but with EK x Der8auer Direct Die block, and they used a regular 13900k instead of a KS

@ghossts Год назад

For engineers linus must be a dream employer, the amount of "i don't care how dangerous it is, if it works i'm fine with it" is bonkers.

@tbag6600 Год назад

Yeah... Until someone sets the building on fire or gets seriously hurt. im surprised he showed that cable in the video. does canada have an OSHA? bc im sure they wouldnt be happy lol

Год назад

It's not the first video with that cable and they are waiting for replacement that is safe(or so they said)

@ademiravdic Год назад

@@tbag6600 party pooper

@_trbr Год назад

Not a lawyer, but I don't think that's really how it works. Businesses can have dangerous/sketchy things (so long as it isn't straight up illegal). If they were using this cable to say, power their server racks permanently, or power some other equipment deployed in the production environment, then CCOHS (Canadian OSHA) would probably be interested. But just for one off testing/R&D sort of work? Very few regulations exist, as they would fundamentally prohibit the design and building of "dangerous" things. For example, how would an appliance company design new microwaves if they aren't allowed to build untested prototypes involving high voltage transformers (extremely dangerous)?

@dragnar12 Год назад

@@_trbr Yea one needs to do scatchy things wen developing or testing new shit. Regulations come in wen u wanne ship that shit to the public.

@MDRATIN_PRO Год назад

Linus is addicted to insane cooling tech😂

@mura_saki Год назад

Him and Alex both 💀

@rossharper1983 Год назад

But then they usually bodge it just for entertainment purposes instead of giving us actual valuable data

@Tigerhearty Год назад

intel is making ovens and linus provide the juices !

@Bioniclema90 Год назад

annoyed they didn't do direct die cooling

@jorceshaman Год назад

Alex is and ropes Linus in who is also enjoying it.

@mr.president2031 Год назад

That cooler we use for industrial applications haha! Linus, the Low T warning you can set in settings. Some lasers have a min temp around 5C for condensation issues. Also some of these coolers have a Modular speed pump. If not use a bypass (T connectors between the Inflow and Outflow with a valve so adjust flowrate and bypass the main circuit) on the circuit to lower the flow to the CPU so the water gets more time to take the heat away from the block. You can set your cooler really cold.. but if the water doesn't have time to collect the heat it is worthless.

@peter_smyth Год назад

I've used similar Thermo chillers at work, it's cool to see inside one. The small coolant reservoir means it reaches operating temperature quickly when turned on.

@peterhillas81 Год назад

This may very well be one of my fav LTT videos in a while. The genuine good time, funny left in moments and Linus actually liking a thing.. 10/10 love this stuff!

@PepekBezlepek Год назад

same same same!! shockingly 10/10 perfect result

@upforellie Год назад

I love watching enthusiasts being, well, enthusiasts. We’re all nerds drag racing computers at the end of the day

@peterhillas81 Год назад

@@upforellie skkkkkrrttttttt *insert engine noises*

@pirojfmifhghek566 Год назад

The fact that the entire intro is Alex giving us a shit-eating grin that he _cannot contain_ is how you know this video is gonna be good.

@XxZannexX Год назад

Ahh yes, Alex’s sketchy cord. My favorite reoccurring guest in this series returns.

@nobodynoone2500 Год назад

I've made sketchier 3-phase cords coming from opposite ends of the building. If it works, it works. Just mind your connections and insulation. A loose wire at 240+ means fire.

@ArturoTabera Год назад

Just combine your sketchy cord with the comfy chair and you have a deadly combo going!

@Jehty21 Год назад

@@nobodynoone2500 a loose wire at 240V+ means a blown fuse. Just the same as 120V.

@gstargreen1 Год назад

I was just gonna say that cord is part of the team now

@Ender.wigginn Год назад

This is why I love you guys. $15,000 water chiller for scientific and manufacturing lasers? Toss it on a PC loop. LMFAO. I love both your ideas btw. I think a cool project would be to watercool the entire lounge, but I def see the productivity capabilities Linus was talking about and I think long term it'll be a great tool for those reviews. Let us see more of Shackleton (famous artic explorer).

@speedtoast Год назад

Just a little tech tip guys. @2:55 I'm pretty sure evaporator is in the bottom right of the unit in the form of a plate type heat exchanger. The white box looks to just be a reservoir/buffer tank to limit short cycling to me. It also looks to be a fixed speed reciprocating compressor, with duty controlled by the little black mushroom shaped electronic expansion valve (by the heat exchanger). Still, looks like a nice bit of kit, with lots of potential for various applications!

@ronivansilva6447 Год назад

You can see Alex just love his job as a engineer doing fun things to linus.

@mozzjones6943 Год назад

Horny engineer

@mmert138 Год назад

Is Alex only engineer on the team?

@ronivansilva6447 Год назад

@@mmert138 No, according to the linus media group site they have at least five engineers

@Ben.N Год назад

@@mmert138 apart from labs he might be

@Volvith Год назад

@@mmert138 He's the only mad scientist. Don't know if that counts, but it should. :)

@TechTimeWithEric Год назад

I love when Alex is allowed to be as sketchy as he wants to be

@Hitokiri_Ace Год назад

If Linus doesn't stop him from using that power cord.. I'd say he's got pretty free rein to do what he wants. :)

@Yuriel1981 Год назад

You can see it in the smile on his face! Lol Never get to see a happier Alex.

@leojensen9270 Год назад

@@Yuriel1981 truly a mad scientist

@zackzdancewicz989 Год назад

I just finished building my first rig. I can’t tell you how helpful the channel as well as PC centric was in helping me get it all together. You guys give easy to understand info to people just getting into the PC world and it’s been a major help.

@masterdynamite1015 Год назад

Whenever you see this duo in a video, you know the project is going to be good!

@graveyj2000 Год назад

Yup-and I like the fact that they constantly demonstrate that nerds are 100% proper men. "DEAR GOD THIS SMELLS HORRIBLE. Come smell this!" "OH DEAR GOD, YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS SMELLS HORRIBLE. You want another wiff?" "Of course I do-DEAR GOD!"

@randomguy4273 Год назад

How Alex has managed to survive this long is truly impressive.

@MainakRoyleomainakroy Год назад

Canadians are built different. Just look at ElectroBOOM.

@OMNIUM-ATAMAN Год назад

Its called being a narcissistic psycho who is a kiss ass towards your boss without actually showing it.

@austang8556 Год назад

I really hope he never goes away because he's my favorite LTT employee. If Alex is in the video you know it's going to be entertaining!

@ajburdett882 Год назад

It would be really interesting to see the same tests done with the CPU de-lided. That would really put into context the impact of the IHS. Really cool video!

@BagheeraRaceGamer Год назад

Yeeees! De-liddddd

@vladislavdonchev1271 Год назад

Someone call der8auer right now!!!

@Nadox97 Год назад

Alex's PC cooling videos are some of my favorites, the fact that were halfway through the video and linus is asking "what even is this video" says it all.

@RoastedHVAC Год назад

I used to build these systems for a competitor to Thermo Scientific. The evaporator is a braze plate heat exchanger in the bottom right corner by the compressor. If they're claiming 0.1C accuracy, then they are probably using a hot gas bypass system that uses the compressor's hot gas discharge to balance the load and maintain pretty stable temperatures. The systems I worked on could maintain temp even with no heat load on the system. Pretty cool to see one of these get out into the wild.

@Murasenki Год назад

CAREFUL running just water in that cooler. If you set the coolant at 5ºc (I don't know what Freon is inside) the gas will be evaporating at -2ºc. You will destroy your evaporator with ice. P.S. the evaporator in the black box with 4 tubes in the bottom right of the machine, the plastic container is just a reservoir. I hope to help, thanks a lot for your content guys!

@timothyfischer5160 Год назад

Sure, but even a traditional ac with a fairly "weak" refrigerant will freeze up if no house air is blowing over the evaporator, but with some heat from the computer traveling through the other side of the exchanger I would imagine you won't freeze up at that temp. This thing does have a bit much on the side of capacity though, so you may be right.

@BULD0SIS Год назад

take a shower

@jimsmith3715 Год назад

@LinusTechTips pls read this don't damage your cooler

@RomainCavallini Год назад

I'm not sûre about what you are saying, but it's definitely not freon, that shit's illegal

@kiddy1992 Год назад

The black "box"with 4 tubes isn't a evaporator, it's a heat exchanger between the liquid in the chiller and the liquid in the attached system. That's why the tank is so small. it holds just enough to compensate for expansion inside the system.

@JakeWhoArtASnake Год назад

What if you de-lidded the 13900 and then made a custom lid with a water block built in? I bet you could get a much lower temperature with the heatsink being the water block

@cgi2002 Год назад

Honestly at this point thats the bottleneck, doesn't matter how cold the get the collant if they simply can't transfer the heat fast enough off the cpu directly. They've reached the capacity the materials themselves ability to transfer heat. They may actually with their fancy new metal 3d printer be able to come up with something that could work, but I suspect it can't print in materials that would be better mediums for heat transfer. I did many years ago see a fully submerged pc setup, but I don't know if you could build such a thing for this, and even then I don't know if you'd still need to de-lid the cpu and if even doing so would damage it or if it could survive the submersion in that state.

@varno Год назад

Der Bauer makes a direct die frame and delidding tool...

@Naturalhighz Год назад

@@cgi2002 you realize the comment literally talks about getting better heat transfer by doing direct die cooling. what they tried in the video was with the factory heatspreader on the cpu. if they do direct die with liquid metal they should get significantly better heat transfer

@cgi2002 Год назад

@@Naturalhighz yes I know and I agreed, my thoughts was they'd need to make a custom fitting for that, but that comes with the complication that their metal 3d printer may not be able to use the materials ideal for it. You still end up with some solid metal between the water and the cpu, even if using a liquid metal medium between the cpu and the cooler itself, that solid metal replaces the lid as the hard cap (infact without seeing the materials used in the current cooler and the lid, it may already be the hard cap) . The only way around that would be running an entire liquid cooling setup full of the liquid metal and making a sealed enclosure around the cpu, but that comes with the seperate issue of ensuring your liquid metal is non-conductive of electricity, exceptionally conductive of heat, and not even slightly corrosive under high pressure, oh and cheap because your going to need several gallons of it.

@JakeWhoArtASnake Год назад

@cgi2002 It could also be cnc'd though, as metal 3D printing is only necessary as a convenience

@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY Год назад

That chiller seems like a game changer. I wanted to see you push the whole set up even further. Do a youtube mini-series on things you're going to use the chiller for! It's a beast!

@syrf29 Год назад

I need to see you guys do more projects with this, cooling the lounge with it would be a crazy video

@LitteralBeans Год назад

You can see the excitement on their faces and I'm all for it

@ArniesTech Год назад

Thats why we are here 😁💪

@toms.1759 Год назад

We need an hour-long documentary detailing the conception and life of the janky 208V power cord featuring LMG employee testimonials and expert opinions. Would 100% watch that.

@TehButterflyEffect Год назад

It's a 208V power cord. Not sure where you're getting 240 watts from.

@toms.1759 Год назад

@@TehButterflyEffect thanks for catching that, not really sure why it popped into my head either.

@changen4125 Год назад

it's a suicide cord lol. Not cool

@johnb0815 Год назад

@Blake Belladonna I was wondering too. the previous owner ran this somehow, so there has to be a proper cable.

@electronics-girl Год назад

You can get a C13 connector from Digi-Key (part number 486-1107-ND) and wire that onto the end of the 208V cord.

@chrisschneider7609 Год назад

You could use a heat exchanger between the cooler and a tank and pump that water. This is common in our industry. It's actually amazing to me you haven't already done it.

@josephgreve5101 Год назад

This is amazing. Please make many many more videos with this thing.

@Nick85 Год назад

Alex's grin as Linus walks into the frame is such a clear indication of how this video is going to go 😂 The way Alex antagonizes Linus all the time is hilarious. Thanks for the entertainment, LTT!

@ThrasherEscapes Год назад

alex's constant snickering in this video reminds me of muttley from wacky races

@Kolenment Год назад

This is cool because we use these chillers everywhere I work. You can use distilled water or glycol and they are pretty easy to maintain. That threaded brass rod on the back will adjust the pressure and make sure that bag filter is clean. On the other side of the compressor there should also be a solenoid on the copper pipes that lifts a magnet inside which allows flow.

@isLife-if8lz Год назад

Glad to hear they are easy to use! I work for Thermo Fisher

@Murasenki Год назад

Distilled water is not the best, can freeze and destroy everything, I have seen coolers thrown away like that

@MrNarcus 10 месяцев назад

This is actually really awesome to see. I use the exact same chillers at my job where I operate industrial metal 3d-printers. It is pretty wild how it doesn't look too insanely complicated to be able to handle the kind of power these lasers put out, and the fact that they are very user friendly which is super awesome considered how bloody complicated the printers actually are. Never expected Id see an application like this. Especially from Linus. Love it!

@nassalspray77 Год назад

In the lab we use two of these to keep the -80C freezers cold. One takes the temp down to -30 and then the other takes it down to -80, two phase changers required to reach the final temp. Absolutely insane tech that is yet so simple.

@Caburetor Год назад

I'd really like to see an update with direct die cooling. That must be insane😁

@onebacon_ Год назад

Was a bit disappointed they didn't even bring it up

@legendaryjimbob7685 Год назад

Overclocking wouldnt be limited by cooling, just how good luck they had with how much can that chip handle. I cant wait to see them put this againts liquid nitrogen cooling and see if it can even compare to that, if it can, this might become the "stantard" for extreme overclocking

@legendaryjimbob7685 Год назад

@@username8644 Yes i know all that, but the difference is that on both you could potentially overclock to point of it being just up to how well that chip can handle shit and this would after initial setups be much less work and trial and error to get to working, like instead of having to vaseline your components and have paper etc everywhere to deal with condensation, you can just smack it on and leave it. The difference would be nice to see, how much would it actually be

@Caburetor Год назад

@@onebacon_ Yup, at the beginning of the vid, I hoped so, too...

@gsuberland Год назад

I'd love to see you try this with direct-die on the 13900K.

@gsuberland Год назад

@@Prophes0r Direct die mount of the block would eliminate the thermal impedance of the IHS, so it would help - every W/mK counts with power densities like this. You absolutely don't need to go all the way down to direct die liquid contact, although TSMC have been working on metal layer deposition technology for that exact trick. No need for actual high pressure water though - turns out you can do it with only slightly higher pressure than typical existing pumps.

@smokyz_ Год назад

@@Prophes0r Why can't they just make silicons bigger to make the surface area bigger?

@gsuberland Год назад

@@smokyz_ For that to work they'd need to spread the actual heat-producing circuit elements on the die out further, to reduce thermal power density. The problem there is that signal propagation times and structure locality need to be as short as possible for performance reasons, particularly with things like cache being close to the cores.

@dammdaniel9953 Год назад

I love when Alex comes up with crazy ideas with crazy things man I really love this guy and his crazy ideas .

@isettech Год назад

The chillers used in the tool for the lens, stage, and many parts that need stable temperature control for sub micron registration, uses chillers with much tighter temperature control by an order of magnitude.The temperature controller uses fuzzy logic to maintain the temperature within 0.01 degrees C. Among other rebuild tasks, I rebuild those as when they run 24/7 the pumps, valves, controls, and compressors wear out.

@bvelite7321 Год назад

You guys need to do this with direct die cooling, would love to see if you can get it cooled that way!

@frankieieie Год назад

That is exacly what thought, take out the IHS and just pressure mount the tubing to the dye. which would be hard to engineer but possible...

@ramasso Год назад

AND LIQUID METAL

@blueblade455 Год назад

Excellent ideas! 👍

@ryanmundell3504 Год назад

I am kinda shocked they didn't delid the CPU for this one. I really want to see how far you could push this thing.

@DigitalJedi Год назад

I'm willing to bet the motherboard it what taps out first in a truly unlimited headroom scenario. Intel's latest CPUs can handle absolute tons of current, but the VRMs can only go so far.

@Henningberlin94 Год назад

yep, direct die cooling needed here.

@MegaAdeny Год назад

@@DigitalJedi Yes! Fry the VRMs! That would be a hell of a video.

@itsavw Год назад

They went as far as cooling it with an industrial chiller, why not delid, I’d really really be interested to see thermals in that scenario.

@ryanmundell3504 Год назад

@@DigitalJedi your probably right. New title “How far can we push this motherboard”.

@isaacfortner 10 месяцев назад

I’ve set up tons of these TF-5Ks out in the field and the cooling overshoot from 5 degrees down to 3 is from the PIDs needing tuning. Since these units are so versatile, they have PID tuning parameters in the menus so you can tuning the compressor duty cycle to whatever heat load you have. The menus make no sense btw, I always had to have the manual handy to decipher them. 😂

@tomp538 Год назад

Great video... even with my limited knowledge of A/C, I was able to follow along.

@ZzeroEffort Год назад

As someone who works in the HVAC industry these videos are always my favorite. The mini split video in particular as I sell that same brand and when I showed my coworkers they were both amazed and horrified

@astro143_ Год назад

I would actually love to see Alex cool the lounge PCs with that chiller. That thought is so exciting.

@dylanandersen9318 Год назад

Whole room water cooling v2!!!

@astro143_ Год назад

@@dylanandersen9318 whole room water cooling 2, electric boogaloo

@butuskutyus843 Год назад

@@astro143_ it even rhymes!

@hvacdoc Год назад

you should put a small plate frame heat exchanger on the loop for the computer and run glycol through it. It'll allow you to chill down to a lower temp without running the risk of having freeze up

@wafes56 Год назад

I use something extremely similar to this to cool my ICP-MS and they're quite fun to work with. I've often had the same thought about getting one and using it to cool an entire home gaming pc rack. You should look at other industrial equipment, there are almost certainly loads of nerds willing to help you out wherever technical equipment like that is made. Try getting a nitrogen generator or a zero air generator and using it to displace all of the air in a case for a subambient loop. No water vapor, no condensation.

@AndreiKucharavy Год назад

0:20: There is nothing like Alex's smile after a "most people think it's stupid" to know it's going to be a GREAT video.

@fireninja212 Год назад

you can always tell how much a wild video idea costs by how big Alex's smile when he appears

@hurricane9634 Год назад

Amazing!! You should definitely find a cooler that allow the liquid to go to negative temperatures and use car coolant. It would be really cool to see

@averygoodfantasticname4206 Год назад

condensation would fry it

@devoid820 Год назад

I used to work with, pm and repair these..fun to see these on a pc. Wait until you get the filter change required prompt.

@alejandrodeponte7925 Год назад

Maybe next time try a glycol pump from a kegarator or something like that ? You could be easily cold enough to be condensating ice around the pipes if you wanted... This would definitely work.. and you can find them pretty cheap

@alejandrodeponte7925 Год назад

Everyone reply to this so we get their attention so they look into this experiment

@gsuberland Год назад

The only downside would be frost, I guess? But you could absolutely pick up a glycol cooler being sold off by a bar or beer company.

@remingtonrojas Год назад

@@gsuberland I have always wondered for years if you can prevent frost by removing all humidity

@roetemeteor Год назад

@@remingtonrojas Technically, but you'd need a perfectly sealed chamber.

@MikeMaragni Год назад

@@remingtonrojas you can in theory but that's pretty hard to do

@WilliumBobCole Год назад

In case someone else hasn't already mentioned it; you can spool your teflon tape around a pencil first, and then use the pencil to wrap your fitting. Should be an easily searchable tip if you want to see a demonstration. It's mostly useful for hard to access threads like something that is permanently mounted in an awkward spot, but honestly it helps even with completely loose fittings like you had here.

@ahmedalRubaay Год назад

i build a device like this for my university graduation project... the goal was to have a lot of cooling but stable temp at the same time... back then invertor tech was not a thing so we used heater to stabilize the temperature... nowadays you only need an invertor compressor and some smart controller. an improvement can be a variable speed pump or maybe a heat exchanger with a control valve.

@flatline7310 Год назад

Can you make a weekly series featuring different projects with this cooler? Best video in a while.

@Jarrett197 Год назад

I absolutely love the Alex written videos! You can tell he’s gotten a lot more professional but I love the sketchy chaos vibe he brings to the videos! 😂

@cheeseisgreat24 Год назад

Every Linus and Alex video in the workshop is a must-watch for me.

@masterchief939 Год назад

I found this funny because I have these all around at the factory I work at. So cool to see how well they can work

@giamonioz Год назад

6:51 If the valve says 'WOG600,' it means Water, Oil, and Gas at 600 psi, even if it's color-coated for gas. So it's okay :)

@Toppot2 Год назад

This is NUTS! We need a whole series with this cooler!

@b_man-25 Год назад

I'm just waiting for the day where he cools a computer with the HVAC system of an entire office

@matsv201 Год назад

There is all in one 4 way units that is air to water. I have one of those to my house. It can give 16kW maximum. It uses 32mm (1 and 1/4) tubing. The guy I bought it from told me to not cheep out on pipes. When I powered it on I understand why. Dam that water flows fast.

@nobodynoone2500 Год назад

@@matsv201 Pipe in a few quick disconnect loops near your desk... you know... for science and/or/in engineering.

@MrPaxio Год назад

already done

@uglymug211 Год назад

It's not going to matter when you're heat transfer bottle neck is still going to be the water cooling blocks

@OGPatriot03 Год назад

Tech Ingredients did this and it was extremely effective. More so than a water chiller they compared it to.

@Pax.YouTube 11 месяцев назад

0:19 The way camera started pointing towards Alex after Linus's introduction in a cooling video - is absolutely epic

@the_hamrat Год назад

I've worked with these coolers! They're used also used for cooling ICPs (for testing for metals in liquids)

@hme850 Год назад

🎶 Fucking magnets how do they work?

@lurick Год назад

Chiller go brrrrrrrrr!

@Wenro Год назад

Brr brr brr brr brr

@benedeklippai5722 Год назад

Bro is a time traveller

@Byfils Год назад

Before the video was released, huh?

@joshuagaughan1520 Год назад

'Cool' joke!😂

@highqualityorangejuice420 Год назад

inspired by an old thumbnail?

@HeartFire_ Год назад

Like many have said already direct die cooling with this would be a pretty cool follow up video. Maybe with testing different TIMs too

@thevinstigator2511 Год назад

We use chillers at my work place to run chilled coolant through industrial welding equipment, very neat and powerful machines (cooling capacity wise).

@ncphenom2309 10 месяцев назад

Love watching super smart pc guys try to tackle actual mechanical things. Makes me feel good that I don’t know half the stuff you are talking about in your pc videos but I could have take. That chiller apart and put it back together in the time it took you to flush the chiller. Lol.

@jonathanfilms8508 Год назад

I have to make my insane gratidute for everything LMG does known. I mean I couldn‘t care less about some fancy cooler. But somehow the incredible video team and Linus manage to produce videos that are sooo fun to watch and have such good production quality. I‘m so thankful everytime we get a little look behind the scenes it baffles me time and again too see the amount of effort poured into making these videos! And it‘s free to watch 🤯 - btw I got two water bottles and they are the best I ever had.

@micsunday14 Год назад

Jesus. Calm down dude. This was mildly entertaining and moderately interesting at best

@hjvh78ho Год назад

You sound like you just watched an oscar winning performance but in reality you just watched a standard yt vid 🤣

@ExTr3Me_Cobra Год назад

@@hjvh78ho "standard"

@cesargonzalez2011 Год назад

@@hjvh78ho Isnt he the one who gave the chiller?

@micsunday14 Год назад

@@cesargonzalez2011 nope

@skyman3 Год назад

Great video. I'm so glad you guys have this chiller now! With all the stuff Linus has bought recently, I can't believe it has taken this long to get a chiller like this (and it was only because of "John"). Those "gas" valves are labeled on the side (7:07). 600 WOG. That stands for 600 PSI rated water, oil, or gas. You can use that valve for water, oil, or gas. It should be noted that it may not be lead free, so while WOG means you can use it on water, you may not want to use it on a pipe that someone will be drinking or cooking from. All this is true in the USA, so I imagine it's mostly true up North a little ways as well. Also, I love the "cause that to go erect" with the high pitch engineering laugh shortly after. "You know what's fantastic Linus? We cannot kill ourselves with this, mostly" is a close second.

@tiagodeazevedo8130 Год назад

Please make a video of the chiller cooling all the PCs in the lounge. Love the content, keep it up!

@zukabazuka Год назад

Always fun to see the stuff industrial places uses compared to what a normal user would use. Those stuff are just something else.

@chrisgraff2103 Год назад

Its pretty neat seeing that chiller outside of where i work. We have ran many of them for years for things. The valve on the back is a bypass valve to control pressure. Be sure to press the arrow down button and tune it. They can reach in excess of 85psi water pressure.

@erichall090909 Год назад

There are a couple units like this at my job 2 that are larger at 7000 and 10000w. They getting ready to replace the 7k one (standard life cycle replacement t still works perfectly) and I’m terrified to ask how much they want for it because if it’s not insane I might do this 😂. My computer room is next to my workshop so I could run the hosing through the wall

@DrakyHRT Год назад

Just go ahead and ask it, some of these things get sold very cheap.

@lutboy2909 Год назад

Just do it, or better run as cooling system for your PC and personal ac trough a radiator

@ricardopaixao6367 Год назад

Those are insanely expensive as it is, your electricity bill will be worse

@tigxxl Год назад

Definitly bay one (biger ofcors) 😁😁😁

@someonesomewhere8658 Год назад

Using a 2kW heater for too long puts a big dent in my energy bill

@TeraNazantia Год назад

We have a basement full of these at work; used to chill semiconductor equipment that runs very hot. They mix in propylene glycol and the water/tubes always look a gross brown color. They spring leaks all the time. Highly recommend suspending them with a liquid tray underneath.

@Jrscustoms Год назад

theoretically since you applied the cooling via a mini split (in a past video), you could cool a pc with a 3-ton unit using copper lines to cool your pc, currently i'm doing a build in which normally a furnace would have all its essential needs in it, but ripped out completely, mounting all your pc essentials on a back plate of sheet metal and pulling those copper lines straight from the evaporator coil sitting on the furnace case to your cpu & gpu, and back out to the ac unit, no fans would be needed since you could cut an opening in which the blower motor shoots air thru all the components, all you would need is a call of 24v to the out door units contactor to signal the ac to turn on and either a temp sensor or a relay to tell the ac when to stop, lol it may not be price efficient but its for shits and giggles.

@theboldfuture2341 Год назад

14:13 YES. Whole room water cooling, but it WORKS? HELL YEAH

@Avboden Год назад

I could see this thing actually being useful for the lab. Absolutely normalizing the fluid temps to test the maximum-balls-to-the-walls settings on devices is interesting.

@ethanwatkins7874 Год назад

Every time I watch one of these videos, I'm more and more tempted to try some really jank watercooling setups on my own PC

@1point689 Год назад

always enjoy this kind of hustle

@patemathic Год назад

I can't wait to see this in a direct die cooling loop!

@jomeyqmalone Год назад

This is a big improvement over the way we cooled the laser at my first job, which was to hook up the water inlet to a utility sink in the next room, and the have the outlet just drain out a hose into that same sink. Every morning I had to turn on the faucet enough to cool the laser, while checking for a little bit to make sure the sink wasn't filling faster than it could drain. At the end of the day I had to turn off the laser, and do the process in reverse. Not exactly a gold star for conservation.

@nobodynoone2500 Год назад

Yikes. a big tank and a pump would suffice. Total loss systems are messed up.

@grandinosour Год назад

Many large ice making machines work this way...water in to cool the condenser and then out to the drain.

@cppctek Год назад

I want to see this used a ton. I want one now lol. I’m inspired to make one lol ❤ also lapping 13th and 12th helps a bunch with temps and a contact frame you’d drop 15c easyyyy

@WeserBlitzEU Год назад

This was insanely batshit crazy to watch. I want one. Or two. By far my fav vid so far this year!

@Alpakka91 Год назад

My mother-in-law still has a pc with the first cooler you showed in this video. I had to change it to a bigger cooler and fan, because the original started making noise. Now it makes more noise, but more consistent :D

@Hazdazos Год назад

Episode idea: try different materials for your water block to increase thermal conductivity. Copper is at 4.0 W/cm K but silver is at 4.3 W/cm K. Make one expensive silver water block and see if you can draw more heat off a processor.

@lemagreengreen Год назад

Great idea, silver is expensive but cheap enough to justify that experiment. How much do you think you would realistically need? I've never seen anyone machine silver.

@Hazdazos Год назад

@@lemagreengreen silver is about 100x the cost of copper so clearly expensive, but within the realm of possibility for the LTT organization. Plus it's not like it would go to waste - just remelt it and sell it. You wouldn't want to machine the silver, make a mold and pour it. Maybe grind a few thousandths of an inch off the mating surfaces for a better surface finish and thus better thermal transfer. Get this idea to Linus because I think it might be a cool project.

@sithus1966 Год назад

@@Hazdazos I bet they could find a subscriber out there somewhere that is also a jeweler that would be willing to take on such a task.

@im.thatoneguy Год назад

I suspect the better approach is no-material. Copper conductivity might be low, but grinding down to almost nothing is even lower. Silver is so soft that I would guess you would need more than 10% thicker.

@pirojfmifhghek566 Год назад

The only way to go up from here is to de-lid. Would be really interesting to see the results though.

@yourfavoritetrex Год назад

I recognize that pump my dad had a pest control buisness for years and we had these huge spray units in the back of every truck and it used a a smaller pump that looked identical to that one to pump the chemical out of the tank that held all the chemical and through all the tubing and out the hose through the super long spray gun

@GodlikeIridium Год назад

11:00 Yeah... Those units are meant to cool very hot stuff to between room temperature and warm. Not to chill something below room temperature and especially not for keeping something at a specific temperature^^ So usually they are really just meant to get rid of heat and you never really set them below room temperature to avoid condensation. Without a load they will overshoot. They're built for a constant load. We use smaller variants to condense and cool water (In rotary evaporators, basically distillation machines, but instead of temperature they use a fixed temperature difference of 40 °C and a varying vacuum to distill different solvents and liquids) or to cool ICP-MS instruments (inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometers, instruments who heat anything until it becomes a plasma, to then analyze its atomic composition via the mass spectrometer. To do that it uses an argon plasma stream which is insanely hot (hotter than the surface of the sun) and needs cooling).

@lukeearthcrawler896 Год назад

The highest quality water chillers used with lasers actually have a user defined set point for water temperature on the outlet and they can accommodate changing loads (i.e. for lasers that are used at various powers). The way they work is they run the compressor (i.e. cooling side) full beans and throttle a heater inside a small water tank connected with the main tank. Between the tanks there's an electrovalve that connects or disconnects the small tank to the big one. The compressor is way too big and has way too much thermal inertia to allow rapid adjustments in output fluid temperature with only the compressor. Hence, the small heater. The cooling of the compressor can be to ambient air for small units, or to processed chilled water for bigger units. The processed chilled water in these water to water units is also at a pretty regulated temperature, so yes... you can have temperature regulation of 0.1 degrees at the output even for changing loads. I'm a high power laser engineer and we use these chillers all the time. We even service them in the lab if needed as well.

@28thin Год назад

Full room water cooling need to be brought back with this thing I love it.

@JustCallmeRoland Год назад

Omg this is overwhelming wild overclock . Thanks to John.

@matthewyates1719 Год назад

cool to see people with the best tech having fun with crazy mad stuff

@oldman4325 Год назад

Their cooler videos are some of my absolute favorites. As Linus once generally said, I love watching graphs and boxes fill up.

@theangryintern Год назад

Positive Displacement pumps are pretty wild. We had a few on the ship in the Navy and the pressures they could output were incredible

@darekmistrz4364 Год назад

How loud they were?

@CalebPerez Год назад

@@darekmistrz4364 there are electric ones used for paint or grease dispensing. No louder than your AC return vent.

@TomZ23 Год назад

5:11 Nice, The pump is from a little place in the far southwest suburbs of Chicago.

@thepizza123 Год назад

It is totally time to revisit whole room water cooling like you did WAY back in the day. I bet that thing could totally make that work.

@mrsparefox3704 Год назад

I have about 5 of those chillers at my job that were scrapped. Never been used. I always though about using one but the power draw is insane lol.

@nobodynoone2500 Год назад

The peak draw is huge, but unless you are sinking 5000w of heat into it, the long term draw is much, much smaller, and mostly from the big coolant pump.