The Golf Club 2019 - Is Backspin A Myth? 

While I'd never want unrealistic back spin such as the old Tiger Woods games, the golf club 2019 could definitely add a bit more. As it stands, I can only get noticable back spin while lofting up a flop shot fully.

Hi Lee I can generate backspin on my flops occasionally, especially out of bunkers on an upslope - but thats really about it. It doesnt bother me to much as long as I can hold the green - which is difficult on 187's. Cya Doug

There a few golf games with too much backspin, but yes in this game it has been removed, you need wind against and a slope, and a wedge, mid irons, fast greens, forget it. i just want to be able to hold a fast green without having to pitch on the fairway first!!!. As ever great video.

Hi all, I've just created my very first golf course in the game "Whispering Pines Royal Golf Course" if possible and you find the time to play it I'd greatly appreciate it thank you everyone

Hey Early! Hope all is well. New course is out. Excited to see your playthrough. Cheers. tgctours.proboards.com/thread/23194/suzaku-japan-cc-championship-design?page=1&scrollTo=542016

Thanks for the vid, got Golf Club 2 and never saw any back spin. Though can use some pointers here, always a wee bonus getting a Scot doing a tutorial, nice one bud 🥃

Great video Early, thanks for doing your diagnostic check, much appreciated!👍

I have had occasionally, like the other's said down to conditions. 🤔👍👍

Highlights of Rory/Dustin charity match from Sunday at below link. Watch Rory's wedge shot at 1:22. Took one hop and stopped, just like TGC. That's a realistic way for a properly struck wedge golf shot to react. I've watched a lot of golf, and if anything, the pro's try to minimize the type of backspin that sucks the ball off the green and ends up 30 yards back down the fairway. They want enough spin to stop the ball where it lands, too many variables otherwise, and pro golfers don't like variables :) . I believe golf fans remember approach shots where the green is severely banked beyond the hole, the pro intentionally hits the ball 20 feet or so beyond the hole, and due to the combination of ball spin and green slope, the ball nicely sucks back to the pin. And the same will happen in TGC. But much more common are the shots Rory hit in this video. And IMHO, the TGC 2019. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9uB7t4S070k.html

I can get a bit pretty consistently with a full loft flop shot with master clubs but it's not a lot and it's not terribly realistic. It kinda squirrels about in a weird way. I managed to back spin one past the hole and nearly in the other day. I often use a fully lofted flop from a bunker if. I want to get like 15 yards I use a slow/ very slow swing and get some decent back spin.But the only way I've gotten decent back spin is down a hill.

Agree totally Early. Back spins pretty much non existent apart from highly lofted flops on big upslopes.

I very much agree with you bud. I'm an average player on Pro clubs. Your knowledge is impressive. Will you get Early access to PGATour 2k21 as I'm not buying it until I get your feedback on it?

You can never create back spin with the height of the tee peg, you would have to have an option to play without a tee peg! Love the vids and keep up the good work. Stay safe 😉👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

You can only have backspin with a flop shot LW-GW and LW-9i full shots with wind behind on full loft

Definitely agree. Only when hitting into a slope, from an incline, do I ever see some backup boogaloo. Will go a play this course now, thanks!

No need for backspin when your tee shots are filthy accurate like that. My issue with the mechanics on this game (mind you I've only been playing it a couple days now) is that I club down to land short and roll to the pin but the ball still launches much further than the max distance of the club. And this is at dead level greens with very little degree of elevation. Realistically the club that's right on the pin should land close bounce once or twice and roll back a few feet. Especially if you're adjusting the loft to max. Not happy with the physics at this point and it's almost killing what could be a great game.

What amazes me with this (and so many other) games is how something so fundamentally flawed (in this case the lack of back spin) is not corrected after multiple patches...its almost like developers have complete disdain for their customers.

You're flop at 7:22 is from a sharply downhill lie. The ball checked up nicely, which indicates plenty of backspin, but no way could you expect that to back up, IMHO.

I play with someone that gets it all the time. I think she cheats

I would really just like to see the game have a more realistic level of difficulty, whether that involves backspin or not. My fear is that giving the player too much control over the spin of the ball will just turn it into more of an arcade style game. Look at the leaderboards for TGCTours, its already ridiculous as it is. People are shooting scores in the 50s on every round especially the guys winning the PGA events. Yes, I know True Sim is a little bit better, but still. Most of us are +double digit handicaps. I would really like to have a more realistic competition level with some grind to it. Maybe I am in the minority.

Early ive been subscribed to the channel since the early days of TGC2 and try and watch every minute of your videos. In my opinion you are the most talented Virtual golf player I've seen on RU-vid and I agree fully with your thoughts. Backspin is not in the game mechanics if I recall it was achievable when the game first released. Great content as always.

To be honest, backspin isn't just something that happens with a good strike. Naturally, every shot that is hit in golf will generate an amount of spin, but increased spin leading to backspin comes from a multitude of things in the setup: Lofted club, soft core golf ball like a ProV1, having clean crisp lies, placing ball deep in your stance allowing you to be able to compress the ball with an aggressive accelerated swing, your swing then requires a steeper pickup on your backswing to increase the angle of attack and thought impact allow your wrists to maintain a straight line with a shallow divot (kind of like playing a flop shot without an open clubface). Too big a divot and you reduce spin, same if you allow your wrists to break the line. Trying to bring that into the game is hugely complicated because there are differences in setup and swing between stock shots, and generating more spin shots. Sure you can loft up the club a bit more in the game but the overall setup hasn't changed and you are just hitting stock shots with a more lofted club. Next time you go to a golf tournament (if you go to any) head to the range and watch the pro's, its a completely different setup and swing. Another thing you need to bear in mind is that the golf ball that the pro's play with is not the same as the ones you buy in the shop. The game does have backspin, but only with the shots that are set up to generate more spin like the pitch shot and the flop shot. The only real way to do it with full shots in the game is into the wind because it holds up the ball in the air and drops at an angle much closer to 90 degrees. One thing I've been looking for from the game over the last few years is a 4th clubset difficulty above Master or buttons that can manipulate the swing pre shot. Like a button for increased spin, a button for decreased spin, not something that can be manipulated in the air like Tiger games, but one that you make in your setup, because altering loft doesn't actually do it.

The fact that it hops and stops shows there plenty enough back spin. The game is realistic. The whole tap a button for spin thing is silly IMO and wanting the ball to just suck backwards is silly. It doesn’t always happen like that for pros and like you said a lot of it has to do with conditions and the ball