The Good, Evil, & Best Endings to Far Harbor - Fallout 4 Lore 

If a Fallout game/DLC made you morally conflicted, then it's a good Fallout game/DLC.

Heh, when Tektus told me dying in a nuclear blast was their religious goal, I nuked the Nucleus without hesitation

"You're monster DiMA, You know that?" Says the guy who kills everything that moves in front of him for the whole game xDD

You know, the less-than-random distribution of nuclear barrels along the roadways of the island suggests that the Children of Atom were actively trying to empower the fog. Whether it was actually effective is another question, but they definitely were trying. They were actively attempting to assault Far Harbor.

*”Everytime you open your mouth Allen! The whole town suffers! So shut up.”* God bless you nate

My History Professor in University always told me: "Lovers of Peace, Law and Sausages should never see how each is made."

IMO, seeing DiMA put to justice and keeping the peace between far harbor and Acadia and destroying the nucleus is the best ending.

I destroyed Acadia as soon as I had the chance because of Dima's memory simulation quest

I think the lack of a good ending was the point. Bethesda wanted to show that we sometimes need to make choices that have no truly good outcome.

There is a 4th ending! I replaced Tektus with a synth, collected all the items and then activated the rocket in the Nucleus.

When nick said the line “i have become death, the destroyer of worlds.” It really shook me because I just read up on the man who helped create nuclear bombs and he said that line in an interview in a way showing that he regrets everything hes done

The Far Harbor DLC is the definition of “the grey area between good and evil”.

Far harbour: being pushed into a small area finding it hard to survive Children of Atom: We have most of the island....but...

26:59 Nick casually slaughtering synths with a minigun.

The problem with the narrative of Dima's trial is that apparently the death penalty only applies if a citizen of Far Harbor is killed because while Allen himself is a murderer,he's stilll strolling around.

I actually spared everyone in my playthrough. For me, DiMa being killed by the Harbormen is too easy a punishment. I learned that he actually felt guilty to what he did in the past that he chose to bury his memories. So, what I did was spare his life so he can spend all his time fixing the island. As much as insane the cultists were, they also have the right to stay in the island. So, I just convinced the High Confessor to escape so DiMa can replace him with a synth. Then, I kept the secret of Avery being a synth to the harbormen. But I realized that giving DiMa too much power is reckless, so I just built a military base to protect the island and keep all factions in check. I also dumped all the responsibilities to Nick since he's an immortal synth, and DiMa feels attachment to him being his only brother.

The BOS when they arrive in Acadia: So anyway I started blasting

“But was this the moral ending?” I dunno, how many merchants survived?

In one my playthroughs I was the General of the Minutemen and built a Marine base by Longfellow's cabin. They would act as a sort of nuclear deterrent. Having Militarized Minutemen Mod made the Minutemen a formidable force and (in my fan fiction lore) the Minutemen agreed to join whichever side did not shoot first after their arrival as well as helping protect the island and clear areas of raiders and such. But even this option has its moral qualms. But there would be peace, even if an uneasy peace with the Minutemen acting as a sort of intermediary for both sides. This obviously means you don't get any perks either. But for me it was the best solution.

I think the option you picked is by far the most morally just ending. It’s basically 4 lives (2 synths, og cpt. Avery, and Tektus) to save the rest of the island.

Longfellow’s love was taken by the children. When I learned that I gunned them down. No one messes with my man Longfellow

The children of Atom *DID* in fact, actively seek out the destruction of Far Harbor. All you need to do is go to the wind farm control house and you see them trying to break in to shut the wind farm down. And for those who know, shutting down the wind farm is the equivalent of setting off the nuke in the Nucleus, the killing of everyone in Far Harbor. And while the Children of Atom were ultimately unsuccessful, given all you find is corpses upon entry of the wind farm control house, there is *STRONG* evidence they were trying to break in, mainly the sledge hammer by the door. So yeah, the Children of Atom are definitely actively seeking the destruction of Far Harbor.

To me I felt that there should have been an option to remove allen from the town, like felt like the primary antagonist and drove alot of the conflict either convincing him to leave or killing him as an option would have been nice to have as an option.

“I am become death, destroyer of worlds” What a great quote

I just hate that puzzle thing. that's all :)

In my most recent, I chose the peace ending, but then I went back and launched the nuke, disabled the fog condensers, and had the BOS raid Acadia. I'm a snake.

I like the "best" ending imo. Only wish I could constantly remind Dima by disabling his ability to "conveniently" forget the memory that he has to live with that guilt (Avery's death) for the rest of his LONG lifespan as much as my character did. I destroyed the Institute (via Minutemen) in my main story playthrough btw.

36:46 pretty perfect timing how Allen is kinda nervously fidgeting when he's telling you to get out. You can tell he puts up a lot of bluster as a shield but there's a scared man underneath. You can tell if you pressure him

Allen, DiMa, and Tektus are all loose grenades rolling around without their pins.

I had no trouble making a decision, the moment I saw that messed up little spectacle near the entrance of The Nucleus I thought "well, I've seen enough" and killed everyone

With all the evil there is... Replacing tectus to ensure peace is the best option. Dima knows and understands what he did was wrong even when he has to do it again. I go this option every time and tectus can rot in that wall for all I care. Killing dima is a poor choice as he gives inspiration and keeps the fog machines up and offers a place synths can live peacefully and continue to help them. He has saved more lives then ruined.

My character loathed the idea of replacing Tektis like the institute, and was appalled to learn of DiMA's crime. I told Kasumi everything. Then I actually told Capt Avery that she was a synth and agreed to keep her secret, so that after convincing DiMA to plead his case to Far Harbor it was true justice done with Avery there to see and Kasumi knowing the truth about DiMA. I'd already helped out the town so Avery convinced everyone that justice was indeed done. This secures peace between Far Harbor and Acadia and so I returned to Kasumi to convince her to return home. After that Valentine was over it so he went back to the Commonwealth, probably with Kasumi. Now, with DiMA and Nick gone, I had to do the real dirty work. No choice but to nuke the Nucleus, ONLY because if you choose to replace Tektis then the Children of Atom seem confused and, well tricked. This placated attitude could only last so long before everyone notices that Tektis doesn't age and the Children become potentially hostile again or else DiMA continues to replace them or anyone on The Island. Not real peace. Also the people of Far Harbor would continue to reclaim their lands, ever encroaching on the Nucleus. Not sustainable peace. HOWEVER, the Children aren't all bad and there is a lot to be said about their apparent immunity to radiation. That right there is a game changer in the wasteland and a testimony to their claim on the Land of the Fog. Regardless I couldn't really see any other choice and my character decided to convince them to seek division and thank Atom. I write it off as a damn shame. It was their choice in the end after all, after convincing Tektis. However I just don't see it as anything other than securing lasting peace for the people of The Island, and I technically didn't kill anyone myself. I'm not blind to the gravity of what I'd done though and so after returning to Far Harbor and having Avery tell me to leave, I did. It only seemed right, and I ain't been back since. Hell of a case. . .

Far Harbor has a very sad and depressing story, whichever way you want it’s not perfect. The atmosphere is also very depressing and murky. A great DLC

Nate: Every time you open your damned mouth, Allen, the whole town suffers. Shut up. Players: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (29:45)

“DiMA and his community of SIMPS” is all I hear

Oxhorn’s “Ox” character: kills danse, and kills all synths like a hardcore BoS sentinel Also Oxhorn’s “Ox” character: spares *Synthetic* Avery

This gives me hope in the next fallout game in that Bethsda truly understands "morale" questions and sometimes the "right" thing to do is really hard to do

SPOILERS Destroying the Nucleus = evil Destroying Far Harbor = evil Destroying Arcadia = evil Destroying Institute = completely good Seems legit.

Far Harbor scared the crap out of me. I had headphones on when a glowing one and some ghouls surprised me at the hotel. What an experience.

My first go at this dlc without any prior knowledge I got the "good" ending as I did every quest and went for peace. Its nice to see that there were so many other options

"Sometimes you may have to choose dark actions in order to make peaceful and moral resolutions." -Blue

One of the best fallout dlc's ever imo

Having nick with you for a while then taking him to far harbour is such an experience as opposed to anyone else, even though some still get unique dialogue, I feel nicks responses to quests and speeches is genuine and gives you alot for empathy towards the synths

The "you can change this" or "people change" argument doesn't apply because it can be used to defend literally every faction , "you can change the institute" you also can change the brotherhood, railroads or the minutemen, "CoA can change" yeah raiders can change too , we react based in what they are doing not what they possibly in a small chance be doing in the future

I never cared about how good the perks made me in a dlc, I always tried to end as peacefully as possible.

Wouldn't the best ending be where Dima is punished for his crime but Arcadia is left in peace? The "best" ending involves you killing a man to be replaced by a Synth.

Just played through, and when I met the Children at the Nucleus, the guys in charge were total A holes and pissed me off so much I lost my temper and gunned down every last one of those crazy nuts. Then I set off the nuke and slept like a baby. Even if at some point down the road they might have mellowed out, the way I saw it was that they needed to be stopped by any means necessary, and the posed an eminent threat to the normal people on the Island.

I walked into the DLC and had a STRONG feeling that there was never going to be a "happy ending." And what do you know, I was 100% right. But I actually like that; often times real life doesn't have a true "happy ending". There is always SOMEONE who gets hurt. So I thought Bethesda did good with this DLC's ending, because it has a sinking feeling of realism (As real as Fallout can be)

when he said “Every time you open your damned mouth the town suffers. Shut up” i was thinking hell yeah!

In this video Oxhorn argues the Children of Atom can change so therefore killing them is wrong. In the Institute video he says they are bad and ignores their capacity to change (and there is dissent amount them too). I just wanted to point out that inconsistency.

Love the in depth description of all the moral choices. I like the way you go through all dialogue options. I've only played through this dlc once and kind of blew everyone away except far harbour but I'll try some different choices next playthrough. Cheers

Man there is nothing better than the story from Far Harbor. By far the best fallout experience from any fallout game

"there is no satisfying ending" yeah there is its the one where you kill all 3 factions

11:50 tektus seems to already be divided

Good DLC overall, but I'm firm in the notion that this should have been an intimate smaller scale story where the whole story is searching for the girl, finding clues, building up to a dramatic conclusion with some shadowy antagonist, rather than finding her immediately and once again having to "save the world"/choose factions, revealing the premise to be a bait and switch. Thematically, this could've been a way to get more out of the main character, it being a chance to save a child in a way that he failed to with his son, etc. In short, there could have been greater emotional payoff, and they could have gotten more out of Far Harbor's awesome atmosphere were the story more of a Silent Hill type mystery.

So my first mistake is wanting to forgive Dima because he is a product of the institute. They would have replaced their enemies multiple times over, he did it once, realized what he had done and tried to make options to avoid doing it again. We come along and uproot everything so he has to consider a second. I don’t think he deserves to die, for the one fact that his AI has seen that exact example work time and again. In a way he’s been conditioned by that example, and we could say: the game was rigged from the start.

I still can't help but be brought out of the game when people like Allen get all uppity and in your face when you're clad in power armour. I mean you are HUGE, like 1.5 times as tall and as wide as a normal person, covered in super high-tec armour that grants you super strength and sometimes carrying gigantic weapons like gatling lasers. I mean come on. I know it's a gameplay thing, it's hard to write so many scenarios and lines but I still can't help but find it ridiculous most of the time.

Nobody gonna talk about the confessor has no arms?

29:50 is where I love the part that valentine loved and admire that

I chose the peaceful ending, but it bugged me that Dima seemed disappointed that I told Tektus to run away rather than murder him. Makes me want to rethink the whole thing.

As the famous philosopher would say: When in doubt Whip it out - Christopher Wistopher

That's whole dlc is about making hard decisions,literally choosing the least of many evils.

I got the best ending convincing Tektus to leave and saving all factions. I just think of it the way that even if DiMA has blood on his hands he realizes what has been done. However Acadia has already done a lot of improvements to the island life. So it is more beneficial to keep Acadia in this world. The Children can also do a lot of good. A lot of them are immune to radiation, meaning that they can do work in irradiated areas. So what I mean is every faction benefits others with what they can do. There is no place for emotions when there is a question of survival. Plus what's the point in justice/revenge past such a long time? It will not change the fact that someone has been murdered. It will only cause more blood.

Amigo, soy español y entiendo un poco Inglés, como explicas todo es muy bueno! Me ayudo mucho a hacer el final de Far Harbor, sigue así!!!

"i walked away feeling dirty" welcome to the wastland

Good Ending: Agree to help Dima replace Tektus with a Synth Bad Ending: Destroy Acadia, Far Harbor, and the Nucleus. Smart Ending: Nuke the Children of Atom. There all bungholes.

I thought like: "I'm from the institute, what would the institute do?" So I replaced tektus with a synth, sent the Nakano girl home, and then went back to the island and sent all the acadia synths back to the institute. Muahaha

12:14 love that line by Nick Valentine, especially after recently watching Oppenheimer

In my opinion, if Tektus says that he wished to die by division, such can happen. My personal best ending is; Nuke Nucleus and keep DiMA’s secret.

I think Dima said it best when he reflected he knew he was a monster, and he could accept that, and it was up to you to see if you could also accept being a monster. You did the best choice, which required you to be basically the worst thing: Kidnap someone, kill him, then replace him with a synth. A synth that you also killed by performing a lobotomy on them. I think you did the best choices.

Nick Valentine has the best quotes for every occasion. He is head and shoulders the best companion.

This is CERTAINLY without a doubt in my mind, the best ending. First, no deaths. You have convinced Tektus to leave peacefully. The Children of Atom don’t appear to elect their High Confessor, so you’re not replacing a leader chosen by the masses, you are replacing one unchosen leader with another, and a sane one at that. A SANE zealot, one who can draw in and control a flock of potential killers and issuing a commandment of peace, that will stick. And I believe, in this game, Synths are essentially human. So in the same way a synth is human, they can make their own decision, even if that decision is making the ultimate sacrifice for peace. Everyone lives and there is peace for all.

In one of my playthroughs, I killed the children just to hear Nick say my favorite quote in such a smooth voice.

I still walked away feeling dirty So I took a shower

I like nicks line on 23:21 it really shines as the main plot point to the dlc,mortality

Just played through this for the first time. Good to know the story behind the other options. I actually had a theory that one of the characters was replaced by a synth but I thought it was either the doctor or the little girl.

I just completed this, a year after it was released. But I stopped choosing my endings a while back. I don't reload saves, just take it as it goes. Sometimes I see there was a mistake and I live with it. Like real life. Makes for a better experience to me.

I did the peaceful ending.... Then I called in the BoS

@oxhorn at 15m50, I noticed how empathic you are and also moraly mature. I admires that in you. Rarely seen anyone i can relate to like you man, keep it up and I give you the ANC salute

For Harbour is the most New Vegas-y of the content. It's the most morally grey storyline in the game. There are no heroes, only varying shades of villainy. And I appreciated that. The world of Fallout is a terrible place, and as my favourite Doctor once said "Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones. But you still have to choose."

He says killing one person makes him feel grim, when the for the most part u spend your time killing everyone and everything

Ethical dilemma-wise, we're dealing with the same level of ambiguity that you had with The Pitt. With The Pitt, the best ending of that one was just to leave everything in place and go home.

Clearly the brotherhood ending is the best

Funnily enough, I think the question as to the most moral outcome to this DLC comes from Boone in New Vegas. “A murdered that does good deeds is still a murderer.” DiMA is, by all accounts, guilty of murder - and conspiracy to murder, as well. He only voluntarily submits to justice if you pass a difficult speech check, implying that it isn’t his immediate intention to answer for his crime. Regardless of what happens to Acadia, what DiMA did demands an answer. Allowing Avery’s murder to be repeated for the exact same reason without any shred of justice being handed to the perpetrator is, in my opinion, the single most immoral action you could pick.

Also keep in mind The Children of Atom were not only being aggressive with their convert or kill methodology but they were actively spreading the radiation via barrels and irradiated water. The people of Far Harbor didn't like them but the only one who was really aggressive was Allen and I don't feel he really represented all of Far Harbor, the other residents claimed he was that way because it made him feel important. They didn't follow or agree with him. If anyone in this DLC is evil and hostile it's The Children of Atom.

ive killed 910 humans, 282 animals, 1142 creatures,144 robot, 151 synths but oh this one synth who killed and replaced someone is wrong and they should be judged for there actions cause its not like we kill anyone for no reason.........totally

I actually did the same thing here. But only because I couldn't stand to hurt DIMA, for Nick's sake. I know he deserves to be brought to justice, but I couldn't, and then, replacing Tektus was the only way to have a change at peace. And Tektus is a shitty person so it didn't hurt me as much. Although... we did a horrible thing. But in the end, I just narrowed it down to the Harvey (from nuka) philosophy: I just protected the people I cared about over some strangers.

i love how it shows the full dialogue option you choose rather than just a very vague set of words

You forgot to mention the ending where you can basically destroy all factions on the island and either leave it desolated or rebuild it with your settlemets.

I LOVE THIS DLC. I finished it up again last weekend. The story is obviously fantastic but just roaming around the island is some of the best content in this game. Fog blocking my view, very dark nights, Anglers popping out of lakes as I'm picking Lure Weed, the tall imposing figure of a Crawler in the distance, Ghouls literally popping out of the fog, gigantic crabs emerging from busted Vim/Lobster vans, mentally ill cannabalistic Trappers, a clan of Super Mutants crashing into the island to conquer it, the detective story in Vault 118, the army of ghouls watching cowboy films at the Eden Meadows Drive-in... THERE IS SO MUCH. In such a little space. I'm sure I missed a bunch. Not to mention the story could go 5 or 6 different ways. I thought Far Harbor and Nuka-World were a step in the right direction then Todd "Don't Follow Trends" Howard goes; "Here's Fartout SeventyShits" Fuck off man. Then better bring it with Fallout 5 or I'm going to hang myself.

3:43 that caught my eye like hell

This is why far harbor is greatest part of Fallout 4, and a highlight of the series as a whole

I kill thousands. DiMa kills one... Apocalypse.

I got the ending where Allen and the others destroy Acadia and when I realized it was too late and I couldn’t load back ;-;

Goddamn this dude is so good at this. I love his voice and delivery, and the way he can explain the themes in the games quests and stories really flesh out the world in ways i never noticed before and it makes me love fallout 4 so much more

It all depends on what you value more. If you value justice then have dima turn himself in. If you value peace use the synth option.

He's wrong about captain Avery. The real captain Avery wanted war with the children of atom just as much as Allen did, that's why he replaced her. He didn't get rid of her because it was 'convenient.' But because he thought it would be enough to stop a war. And if he listened to the holotape, regarding the synth that replaced Avery. HE'D KNOW, that she volunteered for it. Doesn't make the decision any less shitty but you can't completely brand the guy a monster when he was in all honesty just trying to do what he thought was the right thing. At the end of the day, I picked this ending as well because in my opinion there didn't need to be any more death as you can do this route without having to kill tekus. It honestly seems that pretty much nearly everyone from each faction just wants peace and no more bloodshed. It's a difficult choice. The phrase, 'kill one, to save a thousand.' fits so well here. I also honestly wish there was a way to make DiMA pay for his crimes but that's the hardship of being a leader. You have to make the choices no one else wants to make, as much as DiMA made some wrong decisions, I truly and honestly think he was just doing the best he could. At the end of the day, as much as he wanted to save everyone he knew his own kind came before them. Which is fair and reasonable.I think we'd all be the same really. We'd pick our family over a random stanger any day. This doesn't mean I agree with what DiMA did, maybe there could have been a better way, and I would defiantly keep an eye on him from now on. But at the end of the day, he regretted what he did and was just trying to protect his family. It's easy to forget that the sole survivor basically has to choose between ending the brotherhood, railroad, institute or minute men. Changing the very fabric of the commonwealth, making an irreversible choice BASED on what they thought was best. Is he really that much of a monster? "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

The problem with morals is that they are subjective.

"I am death, the destroyer of worlds" is unironically the hardest thing I've heard nick valentine say

The ending of this dlc reminded me of when I was first starting to play Fallout 3, and I was just starting to play The Pitt DLC, another story where there are two endings and while one is "better" than the other, neither are exactly good, a friend of mine at the time was first telling me about the ending (at my request) and the way he put it was best he just said "That game made me steal a baby and...I didn't want to steal a baby." And that's how I felt during this DLC, I didn't want follow with DiMa's plan, but I did, because it was the only way to get real peace, manufactured or otherwise.