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The Government Is Going to Shut Down Again (and That's Bad) 

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Libertarians want to shrink the government, but a shutdown is little cause for celebration. Hitting a giant "pause" button on federal agencies won't end the drug war or reform entitlements. A government shutdown doesn't even save money. Back pay to furloughed federal employees ensures that taxpayers pay just as much as they would have if the government had proceeded as normal. But during a shutdown taxpayers don't receive the government services they're paying for, and the economy takes a hit from the disruption.
In the latest "Mostly Weekly," Andrew Heaton explains why libertarians should be against the next government shutdown.
Mostly Weekly is hosted by Andrew Heaton with headwriter Sarah Rose Siskind. Special appearance by Brian Sack.
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Script by Andrew Heaton with writing assistance from Sarah Rose Siskind and Brian Sack
Edited by Austin Bragg and Sarah Rose Siskind.
Produced by Meredith and Austin Bragg.
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@24vand
@24vand 6 лет назад
The talking stick probably cost tax payers $400,000.
@blakedavis2447
@blakedavis2447 3 года назад
$10 for the stick $399,990 for someone’s new home
@Americansikkunt
@Americansikkunt 3 года назад
@@blakedavis2447 It’s actually a $250,000 Shamanic Featherstick of the Whatsinyourpockethomie Tribe...Basically priceless, and we give them a measly $250,000 for Featherstick Rights each year.
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 года назад
Well you weren't expecting the government to ignore the lumberjack, delivery services, woodworking and paint maker union's regulations were you?
@N20Joe
@N20Joe 6 лет назад
When a government shuts down but 300 million people don't even notice, does it make a noise?
@pyramear5414
@pyramear5414 6 лет назад
There are emergency funds allocated just for this reason. If the government kept going until it ran out of those funds as well, then people would definitely notice.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад
Clever.
@derekisthematrix
@derekisthematrix 6 лет назад
Stewart Smith last I checked, there isn't any "money" left, and then some. Not sure what emergency funds you speak of?
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад
derekisthematrix Debt. All our money comes from borrowing. Taxes don’t pay for government services; they pay for debts on money already borrowed.
@derekisthematrix
@derekisthematrix 6 лет назад
Gallifreyan Buccaneer I'm confident we're never coming back from the debt. It's all just fake, printed money at this point. We're running on fumes. I like your name though!
@Bobby.Kristensen
@Bobby.Kristensen 6 лет назад
The government can't even shut down properly... ''-_-
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 6 лет назад
The mental functions can though.
@ccvcharger
@ccvcharger 3 года назад
@@raspiankiado4658 Well, that would assume they were on to begin with.
@Thesiouxempirepodcast
@Thesiouxempirepodcast 6 лет назад
Lost it with the "reenactment" where the sleepy guy just had money thrown at him.
@N20Joe
@N20Joe 6 лет назад
Holy cow, it's no different than every other day in government employment!
@richmondrk2
@richmondrk2 6 лет назад
Is that sleepy guy Brian Sack?
@shuakatz6545
@shuakatz6545 3 года назад
@@richmondrk2 no he's joe biden
@cones914
@cones914 3 года назад
The real question is: does he keep the money?
@blainehowes5242
@blainehowes5242 6 лет назад
Gotta say, this is probably my favorite thing Reason does. Funny and informative. What could be better?
@RichardBronosky
@RichardBronosky 6 лет назад
You can thank twitter.com/srsiskind for that.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад
Remy, and the [Insert Famous Franchise Name Here] Libertarian Edition videos
@GuitarSamurai17
@GuitarSamurai17 6 лет назад
I absolutely agree with the idea of a talking stick
@derickjohnson6404
@derickjohnson6404 6 лет назад
Exodarion word 😈🤑🤘 fuck it, I made my own out of a twist 🌲 it's five foot two in legnth (sexy as hell thought)
@northernnorm65
@northernnorm65 6 лет назад
Exodarion me too that way if someone trys to interrupt you have a stick to wack them with🤣🤣🤣🤣
@danyapanya5089
@danyapanya5089 6 лет назад
Exodarion umm... Excuse me? Did I pass you the talking Stick?
@bosskeystore8694
@bosskeystore8694 6 лет назад
What about a stop talking stick...
@donovanwisdom310
@donovanwisdom310 6 лет назад
I love that whoever is in charge of the budget for this show said "just wrap some colored tape around a table leg; boom, talking stick... and make sure you put it back on the table when you're done." #partisquabetency
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks 6 лет назад
didn't realize those useless employees still get payed... that is a bad thing.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 6 лет назад
They always have and always will. We end up paying twice for the work missed.
@Fulminatrixx
@Fulminatrixx 6 лет назад
Well if they didn't get paid, they probably could sue and win every time their is a shutdown
@LBPOWAR
@LBPOWAR 6 лет назад
Life is not anime. People need their pay.
@pyramear5414
@pyramear5414 6 лет назад
Yep we still get full pay every time there is a government shutdown. Worse, not everyone gets furloughed at the same time. Not being able to contact anyone to actually do your job means that those who aren't furloughed can't do anything as long as there are those that are.
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 6 лет назад
They aren’t useless. Their jobs should just be (ideally) taken by the private sector
@undersanction
@undersanction 6 лет назад
That Windows 98 login sound...perfect.
@sashingopaul3111
@sashingopaul3111 5 лет назад
undersanction should’ve used XP though
@user-vv1do1wg1j
@user-vv1do1wg1j 4 года назад
That was actually windows 10... There isn't a windows 98 yet moron.
@elijahp.3720
@elijahp.3720 6 лет назад
Great video Andrew a lot of Libertarians can't wrap their head around the idea that a government shutdown may not be a good thing. But you explain it well
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад
As a libertarian I actually want the government to blow more money. There's workarounds for all the supposed personal consequences.
@emanonymous
@emanonymous 6 лет назад
why do we still pay taxes if the government is shut down?
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 6 лет назад
Because the national bank has control over the IRS which is not a part of the government and as long as there is a debt, somebody is gonna be taxed.
@matrixman8582
@matrixman8582 6 лет назад
The talking stick is like the conch from Lord of the Flies
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 6 лет назад
No, they're appropriating native american customs.
@SpartacusColo
@SpartacusColo 6 лет назад
But still, It's a matter of time till Piggy gets his brains brains splattered on the rocks.
@Coreyc04
@Coreyc04 6 лет назад
Creating more disdain for the federal government with these stupid shutdowns needs to happen and shutdowns is an effective way to create that.
@ChrisParrishOutdoors
@ChrisParrishOutdoors 6 лет назад
I'm just looking forward to that free coffee.
@sparkleninja370
@sparkleninja370 6 лет назад
"Shutdown" is all metaphoric posturing. Wish it was literal, and they'd put down their guns and go home.
@wyatt864
@wyatt864 6 лет назад
Sara is cute
@jdstarek
@jdstarek 6 лет назад
#PutDownTheTidePod
@DPK365
@DPK365 6 лет назад
Another great vid....love these segments!
@homewall744
@homewall744 6 лет назад
The government never shuts down, just suspends services mostly geared towards citizens and not state power. They not only get back pay, but they get paid for overtime they planned but never did. Good grief!
@The_Invisible_Hand
@The_Invisible_Hand 6 лет назад
Apparently Congress couldn't talk about immigration policy without a talking stick to determine who can talk, which is juvenile and I think we can all agree that the EXCUSE ME I HAVE THE TALKING STICK SARAH PLEASE PLEASE WOULD YOU PLEASE THANK YOU THANK YOU
@twitchyhog7732
@twitchyhog7732 6 лет назад
The Invisible Hand What happens if we give the talking stick to a dog?
@vc8749
@vc8749 6 лет назад
That "government reboot" at 1:43 had me laughing.
@Josh-fj9hi
@Josh-fj9hi 3 года назад
Love the O.G tide pod reference. God these were so good
@jimivey6462
@jimivey6462 6 лет назад
I watched this video and laughed, and laughed, and laughed. Then, all of this information sunk into my brain and I cried, and I cried, and I cried.
@stevencrowe9230
@stevencrowe9230 6 лет назад
Awesome video!! Hillarious and informative
@brucemajors7525
@brucemajors7525 6 лет назад
Yes but if even one bureaucrat has cardiac problems or faces foreclosure or bankruptcy, an angel gets its wings.
@scottp300
@scottp300 6 лет назад
Nothing ever hurts or affects government employees. They are on a whole different level than we are. They will ALWAYS get paid and receive their benefits no matter what. A company gets shut down temporarily in the private sector and the employees are screwed. Only the government can send people home to not work and still pay them. Just like when cops are caught or accused of doing something and get "administrative leave", which means no matter what the situation, even if they are suspended, they still get paid. It's all a big joke, with us as the punchline, because we are the suckers that are paying them.
@karriecomfortletu1015
@karriecomfortletu1015 6 лет назад
Andrew Heaton is to the liberty movement what Benedict Cumberbatch is to Sherlock Holmes: a delightful character
@Kaptain80Swedish
@Kaptain80Swedish 6 лет назад
Another great one by Andrew and Sarah! If these clowns shut down the gov't again I can find a place to shove their talking stick.
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 6 лет назад
Bipartisanship is a worse solution than shutting down.
@pyramear5414
@pyramear5414 6 лет назад
Only when you are the majority and you are right.
@abramgaller2037
@abramgaller2037 6 лет назад
I beg to differ it is bad all the time,the Democrats have the "deep state",the administrative state,and the permanent bureaucracy, so even when they are in the minority ,they are in the majority.
@matthewtanous7905
@matthewtanous7905 6 лет назад
The idea that keeping government open leads to limited government is insensible. Some people might seek out authoritarian rule in the case of non-confidence in Congress, but they will do this anyway - Congress has abysmal favorable ratings regardless. To some extent, that’s how both Obama and Trump were elected. The shutdown, however, presents a case where partisan deadlock is focused on figuring out a CR, rather than bipartisanship to grow government further. And the longer and more frequent the shutdowns, the better chance one of them persists indefinitely. A shutdown for a few days gives all those employees back pay. But back pay won’t matter much if the shutdown is three months and those government employees were struggling to pay their rent. (Hell, I soured on joining the military for just that reason - a DFAS error kept me from being paid as a ROTC cadet for five months.)
@stevelavergne2852
@stevelavergne2852 6 лет назад
"The government is basically a giant Human Resources Department with tanks, and the president is in charge of it." - Andrew Heaton, "Why America Needs a Monarchy," thefederalist.com I knew I heard that somewhere before.
@SamieMac1
@SamieMac1 5 лет назад
Little known fact... Many government employees (agruably most) were "furloughed" during the shut down and did not report to work... however they received full pay for their time off one they returned. We used to call that paid vacation.
@ScottieSharpe
@ScottieSharpe 6 лет назад
Heaton this is your best yet. Very funny. Makes watching the country go down the toilet a bit more enjoyable. Thx.
@joshuacjleim
@joshuacjleim 3 года назад
1:20 Did they add sounds for empty cartridges when they didnt have to?
@rolliefansler3910
@rolliefansler3910 6 лет назад
Not all federal employees got back pay for their furloughs
@carlb86
@carlb86 5 лет назад
/good
@wayneellis7297
@wayneellis7297 4 года назад
:14 Where's m'goddamn coffee Andrew.
@AK1776-
@AK1776- 6 лет назад
I love this video so much! Thank you, I found it informative and hilarious!
@TheMillerMilitia
@TheMillerMilitia 6 лет назад
I keep sharing these wonderful vids. Someday I'll get a proggie friend to watch. Someday.
@Vermino
@Vermino 5 лет назад
I came back for my Free Coffee ReasonTV
@Flession
@Flession 6 лет назад
3:15 Always happy to see Brian Sack get work.
@roryscott2941
@roryscott2941 6 лет назад
....... ! (A wave of shock and bewilderment moves over Rory's face at the sudden unthinkable reversal of fortune.) ...... (Deliberately avoiding any further glance at Andrew, Rory kneels before Sarah, Holder of the Talking Stick. He briefly keeps eye contact with the new All-Talker as the gravel bites painfully into his knees and fists then lowers his head in supplication.) ...
@suggesttwo
@suggesttwo 3 года назад
Accountability is the answer.
@superdude292
@superdude292 5 лет назад
The talking stick gag was pretty funny
@djoekeb7044
@djoekeb7044 4 года назад
"Put down the tide pod " How did he know!!
@brucemajors7525
@brucemajors7525 6 лет назад
I actually couldn't follow the argument as I was mesmerized by the hot nerd. Thank you for providing one of each for we gender fluid non-binary libertarians.
@sotospeak415
@sotospeak415 5 лет назад
Holy shit!!! Sara made a noise, and it wasn't a slap across Heaton's face!!
@AwakenedAnhedonic
@AwakenedAnhedonic 6 лет назад
I have power. I control the electronics in my head and I can change TV channels.
@theatheistpaladin
@theatheistpaladin 6 лет назад
They had all year to do this, yet every time they wait until the last second and fuck up royally. Budget talks should happen 6 months before they are due.
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 года назад
1:22 unless you've got some fancy shmancy double action CSAA (or I suppose it would be CDAA) I've no idea how that fired twice without re-cocking. I know the firing was just special effects but this is the internet, where it is all our civil duty to argue even if it isn't necessary.
@nPcDrone
@nPcDrone 5 лет назад
I miss this guy. And shut her down! AND #20 MEANS FREE COFFEE!
@timothyschow6462
@timothyschow6462 3 года назад
I never got back paid during the shutdown.
@justindavid6181
@justindavid6181 6 лет назад
Excuse me! I have the talking stick! Hahahahahahahahahab
@AungusMacgyver
@AungusMacgyver 4 года назад
Government acting like civil adults trying to solve a common problem? Now that's a Twilight Zone story if I ever heard one
@DarthObscurity
@DarthObscurity 5 лет назад
Partisanship squabbling and incompetence are the same thing.
@chancenicely2417
@chancenicely2417 6 лет назад
is that talking stick thing really true?
@pyramear5414
@pyramear5414 6 лет назад
Yep. They really used a talking stick. www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/susan-collins-bipartisan-talks-congress-shutdown-talking-stick/index.html
@user-cz9jf1ec8s
@user-cz9jf1ec8s 6 лет назад
1:28 bad analogy. More like, "surgically remove the tumors... With fire if necessary"
@ExPwner
@ExPwner 6 лет назад
I would pay them a smaller amount to shut down and never come back.
@kfgabriele9852
@kfgabriele9852 5 лет назад
Hmmm. Bipartisanship... so, something like a wolf and a puma voting to see which sheep to have for dinner? Excellent choice.
@nameless4284
@nameless4284 6 лет назад
Great video! Do another libertarian edition video please
@timmcclure2096
@timmcclure2096 6 лет назад
Shutdown harms those who are dependent on government. That being said less or even no government is better than more government.
@justiceisCLEAR
@justiceisCLEAR 6 лет назад
The true talking stick we never use has a trigger at one end and explosive encouragement for the parasites to practice some self-restraint on the other!
@Lorddacenshadowind
@Lorddacenshadowind 6 лет назад
hot potato grenade stick if you hold it longer than 2 min it explodes, and it doesn't beep when it gets close
@santaclaus8380
@santaclaus8380 5 лет назад
I want that free coffee now.
@ryanjudy2119
@ryanjudy2119 5 лет назад
This aged well
@Loki1v9
@Loki1v9 5 лет назад
Free coffee now?
@HVACSoldier
@HVACSoldier 6 лет назад
Can I get one of those “talking sticks.”
@135Badger
@135Badger 6 лет назад
The government can’t even shut down properly.
@neuromancer9k
@neuromancer9k 6 лет назад
Love all of this, but Heaton Serling: priceless.
@Aaron.Reichert
@Aaron.Reichert 6 лет назад
When we get to 20 we get a free coffee!
@ctwatcher
@ctwatcher 6 лет назад
Free stuff is popular until it runs out. There is too much waste and until they do it will get worse. Shrink it, all green card holders working in govt. can go home. :)
@Pcwarmachine
@Pcwarmachine 6 лет назад
Yes because we need the EPA during a shut down... sigh.
@peregrine63701
@peregrine63701 2 года назад
Shut them all down now!!
@ibnsalomon
@ibnsalomon 2 года назад
slash it! slash it!
@FloydMaxwell
@FloydMaxwell 6 лет назад
Andrew, please make more videos.
@Maine24512
@Maine24512 6 лет назад
Shut all of it down including them
@elijahp.3720
@elijahp.3720 6 лет назад
Charmain LaReau please don't vote
@Maine24512
@Maine24512 6 лет назад
Connor Kenway hold your breath.
@419fish
@419fish 6 лет назад
Connor Kenway yes voting. That thing that has a 0% chance of changing the outcome of elections. That mechanism by which you get a 1/100,000,000 to decide which one of the two people will rob from you, and your neighboor. You can waste your time on voting if you want. It grants no moral authority. Don't worry not robbing is so unpopular you will get to keep the roaming mob in power even if I do vote. If a mob takes my property without my consent that is theft. Getting 50.00001% of people to agree to steal my property and divide it amongst themselves is just as much theft. I'm perfectly fine with using voting as a way (although feeble) to reduce the theft. However it is sickening to think you would vote to AFFIRM the right for mobs to steal. But like I said your vote has practically no chance of modifying an outcome. I'll do my best to control what I actually can change and minimize the role the bandits have in my life. That will accomplish far more than even 100 votes
@EgadsNo
@EgadsNo 6 лет назад
419fish your a moron. There is more to the general election then who wins the current election. If you bothered to look into reality you would know that many times over your vote carries other powers, and if you cant grasp that why do you think the two party hydra formed the FEC?!
@419fish
@419fish 6 лет назад
EgadsNo The FEC was put in place to maintain incumbent power. This is an inevitable power creep under democracy You confuse totals and marginal effects. My vote has a 0% chance of changing the outcome. When politicians are concerned about an election they are looking at large agglomeration of people. The total effect is large but the marginal is tiny. You may object that the total is the sum of the marginal but this is misguided. Millions of people have irrationally voted. As a result my marginal benefit of voting is far less than my marginal cost. Here is a parrell. Water is useful to me if I have no water I should buy water. If I have so much water already that my house is flooded I should not buy more water. People irrationally bought into the democratic systems because of the politicians propaganda. Therefore people voted until the marginal benefit exceeds the marginal cost of voting (the cost to politicians is zero so they tell everyone to vote). Therefore my vote does nothing However, if less people voted at some point my MB>MC and I would vote. Further by voting for a losing candidate I have increased the likely hood that other votes will change the outcome. That increases other peoples MB of voting and they vote. But I know this fact so my full MB includes the chances of driving others to vote for my least hated candidate. This eliminates the concern that if every libertarian thinks as I do we will lose, despite outnumbering the two main parties. Yes no one would vote, until the election would be close then MB>MC and we would all vote. As soon as my vote matters I will vote, but it is extremely unlikely to matter in the US system in my entire lifetime My particular vote has zero chance of changing the current elections. In other scenarios it would make a difference. I should emphasize however votes don't grant consent or authority. If less people voted, and I did decide to vote I am doing so in defense, not as a way to affirm my consent to be robbed. If 99% of people voted to murder someone they don't have the right to do so. Similarly if I vote to not be murdered I'm not saying elections legitimize murder only that ill do whatever possible to minimize human rights violations
@myusernameissoobnoxiouslyl1466
Hey, it's the 20th shutdown, where's my free coffee?
@patrickmckeown3683
@patrickmckeown3683 6 лет назад
Awesome!
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 6 лет назад
Reallocating is spelled incorrectly.
@blueknight5754
@blueknight5754 6 лет назад
#themoreyouknow..
@RankinAuctions
@RankinAuctions 6 лет назад
My sister beat the shit out of me with a talking stick. Not a big fan.
@jeremyrainman
@jeremyrainman 6 лет назад
No, it's good. American's learning that they don't need government to survive is good. Government services shutting down, making room for private enterprise is good. Congress embarrassing itself constantly by being unable to negotiate a budget for 12+ years is good. I'm all for MORE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS.
@xlittlep
@xlittlep 6 лет назад
Holy smokes, this was almost as good as watching that valiant refugee shake his crutches at the North Korean regime during the State of the Union last night.
@kyle53081
@kyle53081 6 лет назад
Police Incident Report, 31st Jan, 2018. Victim was found beaten up and bloodied in the back alley of ReasonTV's studios, lying on the ground next to what appears to be a talking stick. Suspects include Victim's co-workers (only known alias: "The Talking Stick Beater")
@jettesjettes
@jettesjettes 6 лет назад
I love this guy, he cracks me up
@user-vw4vp5gm2c
@user-vw4vp5gm2c 6 лет назад
i like the idea of mandated vacation with retro-pay...
@akaegotist
@akaegotist 5 лет назад
Wait I didnt get my free coffee ☹
@user-tz5uq2bt1s
@user-tz5uq2bt1s 3 года назад
Ah. Back when the government shut itself down instead of the entire economy. Innocent times.
@finddeniro
@finddeniro Год назад
Quad...Quadrillion..Think about it..Universal income and Buy Urkaine new Fema houses..
@likearockcm
@likearockcm 6 лет назад
I have an idea what the gov. can do with their talking stick !!!! Wait a minute they would probably enjoy it. Nevermind.
@2emo2function
@2emo2function 6 лет назад
minarchism"holy shit IT won't stop growing"
@davidclarkson3338
@davidclarkson3338 3 года назад
Try living in Northern ireland
@stepanotrisal1512
@stepanotrisal1512 4 года назад
Sarah said something? Impossible
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 4 года назад
* Government shuts down * Me: well guess it's time to make guns without the ATF's approval then
@thomasrogers2
@thomasrogers2 6 лет назад
Why the Eiffel Tower??
@jad67jd
@jad67jd 6 лет назад
GOOD!
@alexanderchippel
@alexanderchippel 4 года назад
So what you're saying is that government shut down is good, but starting it back up is bad.
@DerpyNetworking
@DerpyNetworking 6 лет назад
Background lady should have her own show. #MoreLadyStuff
@lawrencemiller3829
@lawrencemiller3829 6 лет назад
People should know this info. (I was already of this info from talk radio.) A better term is partial temporary shutdown.
@JeffreyAnthony
@JeffreyAnthony 6 лет назад
And as a variation, there's the talking red nuke button. ;)
@jkalan8478
@jkalan8478 5 лет назад
Was that Brian Sack I Saw?
@theredwriter
@theredwriter 6 лет назад
Andrew is the best!
@Jack-bu7ll
@Jack-bu7ll 6 лет назад
Up to date with the memes 👌
@riphihe
@riphihe 6 лет назад
loved that ending!!!
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