to anyone wondering: this means that Clarkson thinks he'll die in 2033 at 73 years of age and Hammond reckons he can make it to 2064, by which he would be 95 years old. May on the other hand thought he only had just over one and a half years left from this point on in early 2019, which means he, according to his calculation, should've died by now.
@Alexander Chohan well, your premise is wrong here tho. season 1 started in late 2016 and since 130000 hours actually equates more to something like 14.8 years (you called me bad at math while rounding 14.8 to 14, but anyway), clarksons expiration date would lie somewhere in 2031. That was when I thought this clip was from season 1, which it isnt, it's from season 3 episode 7, released in February of 2019. So yes I have made a mistake, but funnily enough neither of the two you tried to point out.
It's mainly because of the first tesla they test drove which was that lotus shaped one actually I think it was a lotus body and they pointed out how garbage it was mainly due to how low of a milage you get out of one full charged battery and also elon musk got pissed off about it all being staged with it running out of juice for that episode.well yeah duh its a tv show of course it's staged
@@NZbreedsarerare your comment is garbage. Everyone believed the car was shit after they staged it failing, not just running out of juice. Don't act like everyone knew it was staged because they did their best to make it look like it wasn't staged.
And he's cookin things now Sorry, what's a posher way to say this?... "Sir James May is exquisitely indulged in the culinary arts which he relishes for us mortals to gape upon"
"More modern electricity" Pardon? 😂 (Edit: The patronising responses from numb-nuts explaining changes in electrical systems are hilarious. I was just enjoying Jezza's turn of phrase)
A proper charger not just the wall outlet from 1965. You spend a few bucks on a 50 amp circuit like welders or RVs use and it charges most EVs between 25 and 30 miles each hour they're plugged in. Most of them thats close to a full charge each night. It's no super charger but it's dirt cheap
@@bernielennox1031 absolutely but that's rather what it means shit 'modern electricity'. The fuse box grandpa installed was meant to run the lights and some fans more than high power devices
Like copper instead of aluminium wiring, like modern fuse box instead of prehistoric porcelaine circuit breakers. Come back when you're of mental age of 10yo .... this might probably never happen.
My EV is my only vehicle and not once have I thought "gee I wish I was back in the steam era right now." It takes me as far as I need it to and then some.
When Clarkson go visiting his friend - which I presume being Harry Metcalfe aka Harry’s Garage - he should listen carefully to what Harry has to say about electric cars, because he do know a thing or two about cars. And got the proper connections to charge an electric car.
I can go to a Gas station and it only takes 2 minutes to fill to a full tank and i can do 1000 km but i can carry or pull enough fuel to do 10000km il keep my gas vehicle.
Well all I can say is that all of you out there that have a need to go 10,000Km into the wilderness taking with you your towed fuel better, at present, stick with a gas car!
22kw or more chargers require 3 phase electric system which the vast majority of homes do not have so we would be stuck with the slower 7kw charging solution even after installing a special box for a few hundred quids. They need to work more on charge times more than the range. To travel long distances have to add at least another hour because of charging tines
You are WRONG. 7 kW overnight is 70 kWh (10 hours overnight) and 70 kWh is enough for 500 kilometers, which is more than enough for daily driving for 99,9 % of the people. That is plenty fast enough, you plug it in in the evening and go to bed for spleep. In the morning is always full.
For traveling long distances there is almost no difference. For petrol car 1000 km roadtrip you would need 9,5 hours, and for electric car tesla model 3 to do 1000 km roadtrip you would need only 10 hours including charging, which is basically the same. Google Bjorn Nyland 1000 km challenges. Here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-65hPNQkPK2I.html And for petrol car is 9,5 hours here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HdENrYlaez0.html
@@erikanovak9485Who cares about the 99% of average daily driving, it is not nearly enough for me. Average drivers do not do average journeys everyday. They take their kids to seaside occasionally, they go on foreign holidsys etc. I periodicall drive over 500 miles to Scotland, an Ev would probably take two days with a hotel stop. Nope its diesel for me.
LOL, my main issue with electric cars is that none of them is available used for below $10K without the risk of having to replace the batteries. Yes, they have fewer components than an ICE car, but they also cost a fortune to fix many things on. Unlike things Like Toyotas, Hondas, and Fords which can always be both easily and cheaply fixed to go on for many many years. As it stands now, ALL electric cars are luxury cars due to their possible cost of ownership. Not to mention, how they're impossible to modify with things like Turbos and so on. All of those reasons contribute A LOT as to why those ars only trend online. In reality, they are less than 3% of the market. AKA, they don't even sell as much as the top luxury cars.
thats exactly why government is banning normal cars....us mere plebs wont be able to afford an electric car...utter farce made up bullshit....carbon is not the enemy...government is...everything you see touch or actually are is carbon based so how can it be bad for us and the planet ? we are made of the stuff !!
I suggest you start looking for trained horses on the Internet as soon as possible, my friend, because that's where we're headed. Much cheaper. Don't need gas or electricity. Just grass, oats, and water. And the best part, no carbon emissions. Just normal animal waste 😂
Well, that is because BEVs are young. Their used market is still small (although growing) at this point. ICE is nearly a century old, hence its vast used market.
Waa waa the batteries are too expensive waa Meanwhile every car under 10k right now burns a gallon of oil every 10 feet, needs a trans rebuild or has completely broken suspension. But tell me more about how electric cars are are """"too expensive""""
It’s true you charge a car up at 1.2kw and after 12 hours you have about 50miles range , you need to do a 7.6kw charge for 8 hours to get 200 miles so they are are not as cheap as they make out . My wife has an ID3 VW fyi
Only The Guys from Roadkill can somewhat come😅 close to them as funny+keeping my attention waiting for their next comment!! Example,"The music of My People!!"
Jeremy , YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND OVER AN ELECTRIC CAR WHILE IT CHARGES. IT can charge while you are asleep, instead of sending ten minutes each time you fill up!
if you are charging electric vehicle suppose on a road journey, you will be spending more on mcdonalds than on electricity. as this is the few of such restaurants in my country. besides its higly unlikely to have a charge port near a dhaba in india so.....whatever.
Electricity is much more expensive in Europe. It's more expensive than driving a diesel car if you're unlucky with the price at the charging points (sometimes 3x as expensive as charging at home). If you do your own oil changes, it's much cheaper to drive an ICE car. EVs are only cheap to run if you can charge them up at your own home. Which is impossible if you don't have your own driveway.
You're not wrong. I use one for work, it uses about 50% battery over 6 hours and then it's charging the rest of the time. Fortunately I only need it for those 6 hours.
I have never spent 5 minutes charging my electric car. it is fully charged every morning. on the other hand, I have spent a lot of time driving past a petrol station in my petrol cars
If you're waiting for an EV to charge you're doing it wrong. The thought of having to get in the car and drive it somewhere to put fuel in it seems crazy to me now after driving EV's for 6 years. These people waiting for their EV's to charge do they also plug their phone in and then stand and wait for it to charge I'm going to guess no you charge it when it's not being used, an EV is no different.
Yes and sometimes speaks the truth here in the UK they're banning petrol and diesel by 2030 so you would imagine that there would be fast charging points everywhere there are some but not everywhere and it's not going to be everywhere by 2030 the world isn't ready for its own mistake not even by 2050 no-one will be ready so on that note then I think they're going to introduce electric cars and keep petrol and diesel at the same time so everyone is happy
@@MattAutoMotive I really hope hydrogen cars do become a thing. It’s a perfect combination, of zero harmful tailpipe emissions and internal combustion. I’m trying to think though, what would be the advantage of hydrogen and electric hybrid?
Never mind all those hours wasted upon the charging process (and having to faff with assorted apps), think about the after-tax years of work life required to have one of these charmless and exorbitantly priced vehicles at your personal 'convenience'. Lunacy. 👽🏁
I'd love an electric car. With about 250 miles of range I could do all the driving I'm likely to ever need to do in a given work day with a decent margin for comfort, detours, etc. Only problem is there's no place to plug it in where I live or at the office, and any community chargers nearby would take a day to recharge on.
@@justynthyme TROLL! This is a UK Show. A 250 Mile range BEV with just being DC Fast Charged ONCE has a total range of nearly 500 miles. That is plenty to travel anywhere in A DAY on the UK Isles. All your post here just push ignorant stupidity.
@@Neojhun So, your 500 miles has got you to your holiday destination in the Scottish Highlands. How do you get home when the nearest fast-charger is 100 miles away?
@@saxon-mt5by LOL Cute Scottish Highlands, I live in freaking AUSTRALIA. A freaking Continent, the UK Isles is tiny in comparison. LOL 500 miles that's nothing for 300Mile BEV. You get there by charging Half Way at 250-300 Miles into the journey on route. You do not charge at the END as close to the destination as possible. That's 600 mile total range for a 500 mile journey. Your silly hypothetical is a Failure in Logic.
@@Neojhun yes but still British in the minds of people in Britain and around the world. Britain is a nation whose time has passed and it's quite hard to fathom.
The quality of interior on a Tesla is dire for the amount of money they are charging for the vehicle. The only thing you can say about it, is that it has a big screen, which just serves to attempt to distract you from the fact there’s nothing else inside it worth looking at. At that price level, it’s just not good enough.
@@Rasscasse You are paying for the superior engineering and drive train. Especially i-Pace is massively outdated drive train architecture and poor efficiency at 2.8 miles per kwh. That means poor real world range & much heavier. It's a very simple trade Nice Interior vs Better Drive Train. Seems like a fair trade.
so how are people going to get to france (europe) italy spain if no cars (elec)can do no more than say 200miles on one charge no elec car does what it is supposed to do (miles) so if i drive from sheff to dover fully loaded we'll say the jag that means if stright on ferry get off in france i will have to spend time charging when i could be on my way (petrol) no ferrys will carry charge ports on board so it's wait to charge in dover or france time wasted even the euro (train) dont have charge ports so it's extra time / money i fly so not bothered but other people will be
@@MrAdopado they can not be fully electric would not have the range they have to be hybrid so they are not driving on full electric motors they have petrol engiines as well
@@davidburgan4939 Believe me, fully electric cars are driving across Europe. If you would like I can send you a link to a forum where somebody describes towing his glider in a 9 metre trailer behind his EV ... to Germany. I have am an EV owner and know what I am talking about.
I love Clarkson.. although someone needs to tell this ape that u can charge overnight and it will give you 100% range, or even charge during day with solar for l free. Thank the sun for that ☀️. U can clearly see he’s biased by automatically assuming the jag is better than Tesla merely on looks or whatever he’s said. And that’s horrible car that burns to the ground every other week (before u judge there’s like hardly thousands of these versus teslas nearly 8 million fleet ) I always loved and still love top gear, but they never really gave Tesla a chance , and for that they’re biased. Same thing with other cars it’s always English cars like the range rover and other arrogant stuff they did,, yes it’s a nice car no one denying but boy is it reliable and not a money pit. And to reiterate the above point, I now own a Tesla y and it’s best thing I ever had, and I’m now convinced that the petrol is annoyance let me explain : so as I said I wake to a full tank everyday with no effort as the car is plugged in so I never worry unless I’m driving beyond 500km?? But in my van for example which is a petrol, say I have to go somewhere urgent and I have to make it on time yes the refueling is quick but that’s 5-7 minutes wasted driving past, where in my Tesla I can just head right over there with never having to stop ever again , like ever. Home charging is always overlooked and for a good reason cause it proves them wrong 😅
The British electric grid is 3rd world I don't care about the environment carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant but I like electric vehicles tesla is the best they put smaller batteries in its cars an still get high range
Tron Dialsingh Why is the British grid third world?! It's one of the most resilient on earth- power cuts are almost unheard of except in remote rural areas during storms. It's gone from almost total dependency on coal to practically zero coal in the space of twenty five years. Most modern homes have a 100 amp supply capable of delivering 24kw, more than enough for the typical household. Sure, it will need upgrading but for a system began in the Victorian era it's bloody good!
Oh you deleted my comment about Clarkson becoming an overnight Tesla fan, following the law suit for slander ,from Tesla. His lower bowls never forget the stress it caused. Be polite,if you delete a comment at least say why.
I am very sorry if I have, but I do not recall deleting any comments, especially when it’s something funny about Clarkson and not a hateful comment about me or my channel. I will look into this and I hope I can get this resolved. Thanks, Callum.
I'm amazed at how ignorant Top Gear viewers are when it comes to EVs. Guess it ain't all bad, you people are going to be the reason why I make a killing.
And, of course, few of us get the privilege of knowing when the Good Lord has decided that time is up. It's tragically amusing that so many of the latest generation seem to believe the pseudo-science that they can expect to become centenarians. With impoverished diets, rampant obesity, and all that's going on in the world, - I very much doubt it. ✝👽
Completely failing to understand how electric charging is supposed to work. The point is you charge it when you get home, like you charge your phone when you get to bed, and it’s ready to go the next morning. You don’t sit watching your phone while it’s charging, you sleep.
Hardly. 200 mile Electric cars as they exist actually cover the vast majority of *car* driving done. In the US average person commutes around 50 miles a day or less. Add in an errand or two abbr you've not used half the range of most decent EVs
Really it's only narrow windows they don't work for. If you regularly do trips significantly greater than its range *and* can only afford one car. Or don't own a home and your apartment doesn't have chargers. Any other situation they're workable.
Yes and a narrow window to get Britain ready for the mistake by 2030 and there's not enough fast charging points yet the window is just too narrow to even be a success
@@Joesolo13 Thank you for explaining the window I was talking about, EVs are great at commuting. But flawed in many other ways.. They do not work on longer trips, highway speeds, in heavier vehicles, towing.. the idea of it being some kind of "green wunderkind that is gonna save the planet" is absolutely ridiculous. They are expensive, a decent 200-mile EV will set you back 30-40 grand. They are efficient in terms of power usage, but limited by their batteries. Unless we get new battery technology were EV can get a consistent 400-600 mile range and faster recharge, they are stuck.
It’s people like you is why a lot of car enthusiasts don’t like Tesla or the Tesla community. Immediately ripping off any other electric car just because it’s not a Tesla. Your profile with an apple logo and “think differently”. Wanker.
@@kaitoanderson2845 i don’t like other brands because they just simply aren’t as good as teslas. Thats a fact, most efficient engines, most power dense batteries, most range for an electric production car (prototypes don’t count bcs u can make claims with prototypes that end up not being true like every brand except tesla does. Tesla when they unweil a car, they announce a range and when it ends up in production the acat actualky has that range and sometimes more. Porsche when they announced the taycan they claimed whatever range they claimed and ended up with a LOT less then what they said. Also tesla isn’t all about the car but also the infrastructure, bcs saying your selling an electric car that can charche up to 250kw/h thats stupid unless you have the infrastructure to support and provide that power to charge that fast, again the taycan can charge at max 250kw/h but where is it gonna do it ??? Nowhere or ar very few places bcs other than tesla superchargers there isn’t a huge network of fast chargers like tesla superchargers out there for other brands. There just isn’t any even close to the scale of tesla. I’m not a fucking 0 petrol electric car sucker, i love old big american V8s and huge old amerian cars, i love them, i also love the last mustang or the F-150 raptor but on the electric side, tesla just wins in every aspect. I could go on with autopilot, or safety since the NHTSA ranked the 3 teslas (not the Y yet) the 3 safest cars in the world taking into count software avoidance systems and crash safety. Tesla also just announced a new battery that is basically ground breaking and until other brands get to the point of developing such battery, tesla will already have the next and starship will be on mars.
Thanks for at least explaining your view. Sorry I was a little bit hostile at first, it just seemed like you were ripping it off because it wasn’t a Tesla.
@@simonw2631 the only point in which Tesal as loosing is advance is on the charger side: as northern Europe demonstrates if energy provider built a solid network of 150+ kW charger, the supercharger network is something that someone will a another electric car will not regret. For not speaking of the Ionity network (probably the SuC nemesis). I don't know the situation of charging station in USA, but here in Europe the Tesla is slowly lossing this initial advantage. Exepecialy n the Northern country. We also have to consider that not all supercharger are V3, so not in all of them you can get 250kw (BTW the 150kW of V2 SuC is always a great results). Anyway the SuC network still remain an impressive results. Another think in which Tesla should really improve is the assemble quality.
@@francescoboselli6033 okay i looked at the map for lonity and tesla superchargers in europe bcs thats where i live too and there are about ther same number, now V1 and V2 superchargers go up to 150kwh, lonity chargers alos go to 150kwh and the new V3 tesla superchargers go way more so same number, adding more and converting old ones for tesla is still an advantage for tesla. Also knowing this from costumer reports, its very easy to find a superchargers bcs its very well made and built into the tesla infotainment system which guides you prefectly to it, and in other cars you need to find the adress and so on so its a hassel to charge your damn car. And also you charge a tesla less often thanks to better batteries than anyone else. Tesla has the highest denisty power cells, the most efficient engines and so on. So tesla is cleary way ahead especially with those new tabless batteries
Yet you need to spend at least 20 minutes every day or two finding a fuel station and fueling up your car. Also whatever situation in your life mean you only get 5 hours of sleep a day are particular to your specific life situation
@@SurprisinglyDeep If you live anywhere for more than 1 year you know exactly where all the fuel stations are for filling up your car and often they are right next to the highway so that argument is irrelevant. Also I would rather spend 20 minutes looking for a fuel station then over an hour filling an electric car after spending 30 minutes finding an electric car station.
Exactly I much rather drive out of my way to a Petrol Station and take a few minute to fill up on gas. Rather then spend the 30 seconds to plug in and unplug an Electric Car. Let it charge when I'm ASLEEP. That's just a stupid waste of time.
@@tstuff1213 "30 minutes finding an electric car station" LOL Fail you are doing it wrong. Soo you'll NEVER find a Petrol Station if you can't find a place to charge.
@@tstuff1213 It does not matter if you know where all the local gas stations are, it matters how much traffic there is on the roads during regular hours. It takes a normal person working in a job in the downtown part of a city or a business park in a suburb 30 minutes or more to drive from where they work through bumper to bumper traffic on congested roads to a gas station, wait in line, fill up, pay for the gas and then drive back to the office/construction site, to pick up the kids at school or to head home. Before you say "I'll just drive to the gas station and fuel up during non peak hours", that is pretty much the exact same concept as someone putting their electric car to charge at home. You might argue "I would need to recharge my car during the day at some point". Let me tell you that I personally know someone who owns a Chevy Bolt who has to drive it all day for his job. The guy just plugs the car in overnight at his house each night. The car rarely if ever goes low on electricity during the day and has never run out. The majority of people in America and in the U.K. live in detached or semi-detached homes and most undoubtedly are able to charge their cars at home (check for yourself if you don't believe me) www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-the-American-population-lives-apartments-and-what-percent-in-houses?share=1 www.mortgagefinancegazette.com/market-news/housing/type-housing-people-live-11-08-2017/
Yes, but you can't consume pneumonia while you're at a public charging station next to the motorway. Because you wouldn't be allowed to drive any further.
Here are some legit car facts. Electric cars are more expensive then an equivalent gasoline car to buy new. Electric cars are stupid. They take hours to charge and the current electrical plants are not ready for that strain. If every car was electric think of the size of electric filling stations will be there is lines now for petrol that takes like 5 minutes to do think of when every car takes over 10 minutes to charge there will be massive lines and many cars running out of electricity in the roads. Electric cars over time their maximum range will go down. Electric cars in a roll over are more dangerous because any compromise to the battery will lead to fires that can last days because it is a slow chain reaction. At a certain point for any electric cars the battery's will have to be replaced every 100,000 and something Kilometers and cost over 10 thousand dollars per battery and they weigh over 1000lbs each and that 1000lbs cannot be recycled. And battery's are very bad for the environment. The switch to electric cars would cause an economic fallout think oil companies will be selling WAY less oil and oil is one of the leading commodities world wide which will lead to loss of jobs and money worldwide. Also there will be no point for all these different car makers so think about ford or dodge or chevy closing or shoot all of them thats over 400,000 jobs lost that would be devastating. Also electric cars are worse for the environment than a gasoline car thanks to production for one year before it equalizes. SO ELECTRIC CARS ARE NOT THE FUTURE. Are society is to based on oil and gasoline and car production too much for us to not go into a depression if all of that is removed and even if it was slow there would be nothing to fill that void when its gone.
Well done, you win the Clarkson prize for the most factual errors in your comment plus a bonus for the many grammatical and spelling mistakes. We hope you enjoy your prize, which is a carrier bag full of farts, (kindly provided by Rudy Guiliani) to place over your head, whilst Mr Clarkson pushes you round the car park in a wheelbarrow, and a choir of asthmatics hums the Top Gear theme in your honour!
@@jdavison8551 Jokes on you I would love to meet Jeremy clarakson, and I have asthma and the topgear theme or the grandtour theme is prefrable because they are both wonderful. Oh and the whole factual errors thing try looking some of them up or just use common sense and knowlege to think about them and gramitical wise i could care less its the internet not highschool.
@@tstuff1213 at least you know what you like. In time you will be able to see how factually incorrect you are. You might find it worthwhile to improve your communication skills however, because it’s not the internet, - it’s real life. You might find your opinions taken more seriously if you at least spell them like a grown up. And on that bombshell, - Good night! ( cue the Top Gear theme music)
@@tstuff1213 "If every car was electric think of the size of electric filling stations" Electric filling stations? What are you talking about? You don't need dedicated "filling stations". Charging points can be installed virtually anywhere, at home, on the street, in car parks. As the number of EVs on the road increases, so will the number of charging points. There'll be no long queues. "They take hours to charge and the current electrical plants are not ready for that strain." A spokesman for the British National Grid has stated that there will be no problem with supplying enough electricity. Most EV charging happens at home or at work, when the vehicles are doing nothing anyway. And the new fast chargers mean that people only have to stop for less than half an hour. Anyway, non-professional drivers are already advised to stop for 15 minutes every 2 hours to avoid fatigue.
@@davidkeenan5642 Ok first when i said electric filling stations i meant charging points. If there is no dedicating areas for charging then every car park and every spot for street parking will need a charging facility because you have no set destination you have to go to charge your car so everywhere will have to have a charging point. So unless they spend millions or even billions putting ev points everywhere they will need dedicate charging points with only so many charging points so there will be lines. And good to hear that in theory at least one country in the world can supply enough electricity because many cannot. Take the USA as an example they as of 2016 on average buy 2.2 billion dollars worth of electricity from canada so they can keep their lights on and that is with next to none of this ev nonsense. Imagine how much they will have to buy when all cars are this electric car idea they won't be able to afford/supply the electricity needed. If all electric cars are charging at night that will be equivalent or more so than it is in the day amount of electricity used. (Also when you charge it at home you have to pay for that electricity so many will try to charge it during the day while they are out probably) Thats still 20 or so minutes of your day wasted probably every day that adds up fast. Also who on this earth honestly stops on a road trip every two hours thanks to "fatigue" for 15 minutes probably next to no one i know my family and many others drive for 3-5 hours straight at a time and are totally fine to unload a entire boat and launch it when we arrive after our trips. We would have to stop probably 1-2 times depending on range and efficiancy and have to wait for the thing to charge. Also fast charging is not available everywhere and its not just because they decided not too there, sometimes the power grid cannot take that much of a pull all at once also fast charging is worse for batterys so its not wise to use that every time. And here in canada up north especially the electricity is very un reliable. So based on these reasons and many more as long as i possibly can i will be buying gasoline cars.
So funny .. so sad at same time .. actually not funny as your dissing the best car improvement of the last century ... pretty ignorent at best ... .. on the other hand great he is not a fan
@@planesimple8619 ehm did you know tesla is not gonba sell cars wirhin ten years? .. and thats because they will last eversge of a million miles car and batreries .. this is much longer as of traditional ..so thwir model of earning will not be selling but hiring out rides .and .robo taxis .. also the first kobalt free batteries are almost in production... so electric will be better ..in the short and longrun .. but you can drive ice if you want ...
@@gmy33 i meant per car, not every electric car is a tesla and 99% of people in the world cant afford one. Like the Toyota prius, its parts go into landfill and are sourced from all over the world, not very eco friendly.
@@planesimple8619 the point is any electric car will out perform an ice car within 5 years.. electric will be cleaner as a whole . but more important with robo taxi s we will need far less cars less parking spaces and transporting yourself will be far cheaper .. we will gave this break through within 10 years ..a chinese made tesla is allready cheaper .. and tesla will make 1 more affordable model ..
@@gmy33 ok, after a lithium battery is used, where does it go? Landfill. Ever heard of lithium fires which occurs underground? Where is electricity generated? Oh, a power station. Where is plastic from? Crude oil, which is still needed to produce crappy electric cars. If ya want something totally eco friendly, walk. Electric cars and fossil fueled cars are both bad for the environment and the move is mainly political.
Used to love every show they made. Not any more. They have become dinosaurs. Stuck in the past waiting for extinction with any opinion that does not matter at all. I moved on. They refuse. Bye.
