The Great Apostasy 

This was exactly the clarification needed. Great teaching!!! Thank you and God bless you and Behold Isreal

Reformed church?? Reformed churches are very close to the sound doctrine of the Bible eg: John MacArthur, John Piper et al. The troubling ones are the word of faith movement churches and prosperity gospel.

Almona Prisca It’s sad the Body of Christ eating its own. Now , there are cults that are obviously just that and the Catholic Church is going past it’’s time to get it’s doctrine from the Bible instead of following priests, popes, and rituals traditions.

David A. Dennis I have had a similar experience and it’s very disheartening to see what is truly happened to the church it is no more than a country club boys and girls club and a place to gather to socialize and to eat

@@SuperTruthSeeker4U I'm a little confused. I don't understand how the great FALLEN AWAY would occur AFTER the rapture of the Church. What would they be fallen away from if the Spirit of Truth and the Church is no longer on earth? When the Light of the world is removed, what's left is DARKNESS. And so, there would be nothing to fall away from. Since we agreed some fallen away is occurring now, a more plausible explanation would seem to be that The GREAT Fallen Away also will occur when the "Salt of the earth", the light of the world", the Church and The Spirit of Truth is on earth. It proves they're fallen away from something. Please correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly.

@@theloveofthetruth5984 thats what I was thinking , how can a GREAT apostasy happen after the rapture. What do they fall away from, and who are "they".

@@theloveofthetruth5984 Actually the rapture will only take place just before the revealing of the Lawless one. I think we are already seeing the Apostasy and the eventual rise of the lawless one. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. I think your logic is correct but what if it does mean departure and the focus is then placed upon Israel after the rapture? Then the rebellion could take place which would be the rebellion against God's Law. Would the Jews still be considered the light of the world once the church is removed? This is a very interesting topic for sure.

@@theloveofthetruth5984 many will be saved when we are raptured because they start to belive what we told them about YESHUA and there will be many tribulation saints brutally persecuted for theyr faith killed by sword 🛐🕎✡➕🛐🕎✡

The archangel Michael is the Restrainer. Daniel 12:1, Rev. 12.

Peter Terrell.. The Holy Ghost is given to the heart of the believer...The Holy Spirit delivers....Most teach they are one and the same. Words not spelled the same do not mean the same. Can be similar but not the same. Basic etymology!

@@karenstrock4470 Oh wow!!! I never knew that!!!!

@@deeannray5093 they are the same but research for yourself

www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/therapture.html

gnc1962 thank you. The Lord gave me the number 777 and then right after that the number 646. Whenever I see the number 777 I think of completion and rapture. Many Christians have been saying flight 777 is ready for departure. But when God gave me the number 646 meaning ἀποστασία apostasía, ap-os-tas-ee'-ah; feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly, the state) ("apostasy"):-falling away, forsake. I was a bit confused . But now I believe the Lord was saying flight 777 is ready for departure 😊 well anyways thank you for sharing that.

@@Annah7373 I'm a little confused about the great fallen away. I don't understand how the great FALLEN AWAY would occur AFTER the rapture of the Church. What would they be fallen away from when the Spirit of Truth and the Church is no longer on earth? When the Light of the world is removed, what's left is DARKNESS. And so, there would be nothing to fall away from. Since we agreed some fallen away is occurring now, a more plausible explanation would seem to be that The GREAT Fallen Away also will occur when the "Salt of the earth", the light of the world", the Church and The Spirit of Truth is on earth. It proves they're fallen away from something. Please correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly.

The Love of The Truth I’m not completely sure myself. But I think God is showing me that the apostasia the falling away used in 2 thes 2:3 is departure. The rapture of the church. Gnc1962 left a good link in the comments here check it out .God bless ❤️

@@gnc1962 WOW!!! That really went into DEPTH concerning the Rapture & the 2nd coming of Chirst!! Thanks so much for sharing that link with us!

Hi Darlyn, see if you can discern this. Context is so important if we are to get it right. the Bible still teaches elsewhere a "departure from the faith" (2 Timothy 4:1), so Apostasia (falling away) meaning departure does not diminish a last days apostasy. Apostasia in the Greek means departure. In the CONTEXT, Paul is telling the Thessalonians that we will be gathered together unto Him *before* the man of sin is revealed. We can depart from the faith, we can also depart to be with Christ. Context seems to indicate that this is speaking of our gathering together unto Him. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY *FIRST* , and that man of sin be REVEALED, the son of perdition" (v. 3) Something had to happen FIRST, before the man of sin could be revealed. In verse 6 Paul says, "NOW YE KNOW what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time", and that is obviously the "falling away", *the departure* . Paul then clarifies this saying, "he who now letteth [same as withholdeth] will let [withholdeth], until he be TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. And *then* shall that Wicked be REVEALED" (v. 7-8) Before the "man of sin" or "that Wicked" could be revealed, the "falling away" or the church being "taken out of the way" had to happen first. That, is "our gathering together unto him" (v. 1) The context indicates that the "falling away" and "taken out of the way" are the same event that had to happen before the Antichrist could be revealed. That is, the departure of the Church to be with Christ, then that wicked shall be revealed. Can you see it?

Thanks for this teaching Pastor Golay, just made the coming rapture so exciting, looking forward to meeting Jesus in the air

Hi Martin, the Bible still teaches elsewhere a "departure from the faith" (2 Timothy 4:1), so Apostasia does not diminish a last days apostasy. Apostasia in the Greek means departure. In the CONTEXT, Paul is telling the Thessalonians that we will be gathered together unto Him before the man of sin is revealed. We can depart from the faith, we can also depart to be with Christ. Context seems to indicate that this is speaking of our gathering together unto Him. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin be REVEALED, the son of perdition" (v. 3) Something had to happen FIRST, before the man of sin could be revealed. In verse 6 Paul says, "NOW YE KNOW what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time", and that is obviously the "falling away". Paul then clarifies this saying, "he who now letteth [same as withholdeth] will let [withholdeth], until he be TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. And then shall that Wicked be REVEALED" (v. 7-8) Before the "man of sin, that Wicked" could be revealed, the "falling away" or the church being "taken out of the way" had to happen first. That, is "our gathering together unto him" (v. 1) The context indicates that the "falling away" and "taken out of the way" are the same event that had to happen before the Antichrist could be revealed. That is, the departure of the Church to be with Christ, then that wicked shall be revealed.

Your not alone I had this same exact problem try praying to God to give you words that will win these people over to his kingdom glorify him and tell him it's his glory you do this for not for your own give credit to him with sincerity try this when you try again 🥰

Hi Kelilah, the Bible still teaches elsewhere a "departure from the faith" (2 Timothy 4:1), so Apostasia (falling away) meaning departure does not diminish a last days apostasy. Apostasia in the Greek means departure. In the CONTEXT, Paul is telling the Thessalonians that we will be gathered together unto Him before the man of sin is revealed. We can depart from the faith, we can also depart to be with Christ. Context seems to indicate that this is speaking of our gathering together unto Him. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin be REVEALED, the son of perdition" (v. 3) Something had to happen FIRST, before the man of sin could be revealed. In verse 6 Paul says, "NOW YE KNOW what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time", and that is obviously the "falling away". Paul then clarifies this saying, "he who now letteth [same as withholdeth] will let [withholdeth], until he be TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. And then shall that Wicked be REVEALED" (v. 7-8) Before the "man of sin, that Wicked" could be revealed, the "falling away" or the church being "taken out of the way" had to happen first. That, is "our gathering together unto him" (v. 1) The context indicates that the "falling away" and "taken out of the way" are the same event that had to happen before the Antichrist could be revealed. That is, the departure of the Church to be with Christ, then that wicked shall be revealed.

@@gnc1962 thank you! I've actually been reading up on this/ watched some videos after I watched the above video. I'm quite confused now, because one says this and the other one says that. And all good teachers and the both explanations make sense !! I just want to know the truth of course of what it really means. What do you think of this: Verse one in 2Thess2 says: "Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers..." and verse 2: "not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come." then in verse 3: "Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the 'apostasia' comes first," ... So my question: "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him" >>> is that what's meant with the day of the Lord? I don't think so, right? The day of the Lord: would that be when the 7 year tribulation starts? Some time after the rapture, or maybe right away? And in verse 3, the 'apostasia' FIRST, well yes, it could very well mean departure. Quite confusing!

@@gnc1962 thank you so much for all that you wrote! :) I must say, it sounds very plausible and I want to be as confirmed about this as you are! Right now, I definitely lean more towards the explanation of 'departure'. It sure would have been simpler though if it would have said in that verse that "that day will not come, unless the gathering together to Him comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed" (lol). Thanks again!

Sorry , i wish to pray for us , all christian's , please !

I was wondering if it meant running away from false doctrines or Pastors....who don't believe in the rapture?

Thanks going to check this out.

kim madonna Andy Woods has a good booklet on it ,you can download it as a kindle book it’s cheap and doesn’t take long to read but lays out a very convincing case for it to mean departure .

I was surprised they took this stance. JD, Jack and many others teach the departure. Their teachings do a great job of proving it. So, I don't agree with the falling away teaching.

Kim be careful about changing the word.