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The greatest gifts France and the US gave each other were trains - "Friendship" & "Merci" Trains 

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In today's video, we take a look at both the Friendship Train and the Merci Train and why they're some of the most important gifts France and the US have sent each other
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@TrainFactGuy
@TrainFactGuy Год назад
Sometimes I get by with a little help from my friends
@yeoldeseawitch
@yeoldeseawitch Год назад
Another cool story about postwar American-France relations involving trains is the story of the 141R class. France had a locomotive shortage after the war and needed immediate replacements, so the SNCF contracted the big 5 locomotive builders in America and Canada to build 1,340 2-8-2 mikados to operate on their network The most humorous bit of information about this whole thing was how quickly they were constructed. The first 700 were able to be completed in only 11 months, whereas around the same time, the french loco builders were only able to construct 35 examples of slightly larger class of engine in 4 YEARS!
@SMPandanic
@SMPandanic Год назад
I see that lyric reference even if it's unintentional
@VictorTanzig1
@VictorTanzig1 Год назад
Let this be a reminder that trains make everything better.
@alhasanbeitelmal6218
@alhasanbeitelmal6218 Год назад
Bro Can you please upload video of stories of sodor
@alexcanine4948
@alexcanine4948 Год назад
Yep
@trainlover16
@trainlover16 Год назад
Oh hi Victor.
@trainlover16
@trainlover16 Год назад
@@alhasanbeitelmal6218Bruh, be patient, he’s doing his best.
@alexcanine4948
@alexcanine4948 Год назад
@@alhasanbeitelmal6218 yeah you can’t rush him
@ieuanbriers
@ieuanbriers Год назад
"Both Countries have a long and connected history" as well as rocky relations with the British.
@user-xsn5ozskwg
@user-xsn5ozskwg Год назад
When you struggle to see the humanity in others just remember you both probably come from a country with an unpleasant often violent history with Britain.
@hardcorelace7565
@hardcorelace7565 Год назад
​@@user-xsn5ozskwgas a Brit I agree!
@roseroserose588
@roseroserose588 Год назад
Isn't that why france got involved with the US civil war to start with? They didn't particularly care about american independence, just wanted to stick it to the english 😆
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
@@user-xsn5ozskwg I guess us Brits are more well-learned than most. It was NOT in America's interest to see Europe collapse a third time. The stock market crash in the US from greedy bankers, was because Europe was still reeling from the effects of WW1 which in turn helped to trigger WW2 after all. If Europe falls, America loses a lot of money.
@steelhammer96
@steelhammer96 Год назад
well the enemy of my enemy is my friend
@isaiahwilliams2642
@isaiahwilliams2642 Год назад
This was incredibly eye opening. I volunteered at the Nevada State Railroad Museum at Carson City for years while it still had the restored Merci Van. I knew it was part of the gratitude campaign from France, but never did I know it was used in Wartime services. Many of us just assumed they were built for the Merci Train, and none of us knew it was actually used in Wartime services, let alone troop transport and Concentration Camp deliveries. It was exchanged with another state museum, but when I see it again, I am certainly going to better acknowledge its place in history.
@drewzero1
@drewzero1 Год назад
There's one in Green Bay at the National Railroad Museum as well. It is very nicely restored and protected from the weather in their closed pavilion, and though it's tucked back in the corner I make it a point to seek it out whenever I visit.
@natevince3154
@natevince3154 Год назад
I saw the exact car down in Boulder City. Your preservation work is appreciated.
@vaniellys
@vaniellys Год назад
I'm French and I never heard of that story before. I'm proud of our nations' friendship !
@johnconner9149
@johnconner9149 10 месяцев назад
from America Merci
@Froggyman145
@Froggyman145 Год назад
Renaming the first one "The Friend Ship" was absolutely brilliant
@swordkirbyfilms7747
@swordkirbyfilms7747 Год назад
I have seen the Merci Train’s car designated for North Carolina at the North Carolina Transportation Museum. The museum makes sure to keep her indoors and in good condition. She still looks new even over 100 years later.
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 Год назад
Less than hundred years... 1949 was 74 years ago.
@survivingworldsteam
@survivingworldsteam Год назад
@@reachandler3655 if you re-watch the video or study the subject some more, you will find that the cars that made up the Merci train were all old boxcars dating back to WWI; when they were first used as 40-8 cars. So @swordkirbyfilms7747 is correct.
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
Its morbid to think they may have been used in the Holocaust.
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom Год назад
Before watching the video, I thought that "surely the Statue of Liberty is the greatest gift from France", but I'll have to rethink it.
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
The greatest gift, I think, is the huge amount of aid France gave us during the revolution. Not just cash, guns, and powder, but the fleet that trapped Cornwallis in Yorktown, until Washington and the Continental Army could march there, and demand he surrender. Sure, "we" won the war, but we wouldn't have, at least not then. It probably would have been a long, drawn out guerilla insurgency, like we've seen in South America and Asia. The train is more wholesome, and Miss Liberty is more tangible, though. She won't be forgotten so long as she stands
@lachlanjenkin1659
@lachlanjenkin1659 9 месяцев назад
Tbh is a very cute and wholesome story of two countries that help each Other and trains (which are my personal favourite hobbie) are arguably the greatest thing they have given to each other And it makes Thomas and Gordon’s ‘united we stand together we fall’ line more touching
@Theover4000
@Theover4000 Год назад
The Texas Military Forces Museum on Camp Mabry have the Texas car of the gratitude train; recently renovated and brought indoors. It’s quite a sight.
@Hiro_Trevelyan
@Hiro_Trevelyan Год назад
Such an incredible piece of history that isn't widely known enough imo
@davidpawson7393
@davidpawson7393 Год назад
Choo Choo. Nothing free today, not even sick leave for rail workers.
@lukechristmas3951
@lukechristmas3951 Год назад
Rivals the American Freedom Train. I'll admit, one thing I did not know about is that a good amount of the Forty-Eight vans are preserved but yet it makes me wonder if there were even attempts to preserve any of the actual stock that were included in the Friendship train. One of the pictures suggests that one of the engines to pull the train was a Southern Pacific Class AC-7 4-8-8-2. Either No. 4159 or 4169.
@bapgames1
@bapgames1 Год назад
Don't forget about the statue of liberty ! 🇨🇵 🤝🇺🇲
@khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318
@khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318 Год назад
Nah this was much better
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
You can't feed people with a statue.
@sambrown6426
@sambrown6426 Год назад
I've seen the Merci car at the B&O Railroal Museum in Baltimore, and I now know its story. Thank you.
@joetraincool
@joetraincool Год назад
I've seen at least 2 of the Merci Train cars, the one in Nevada and the one in Kentucky. I feel like I've seen a few more but can't remember.
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 Год назад
I’ve seen the one in my home state of Minnesota located in a small museum in an Army National Guard base.
@CXR-gk4lw
@CXR-gk4lw Год назад
I also remember seeing one of the merci trains in a railroad museum before, although I didn’t exactly realize the significance of why it was here and what it was a part besides being used in WWII
@brianbarker2551
@brianbarker2551 Год назад
Wikipedia has a few pictures of the ones still around.
@yeoldeseawitch
@yeoldeseawitch Год назад
my state, Rhode Island, still has the one given to it in a museum somewhere
@Jamiewaldie1992
@Jamiewaldie1992 Год назад
I thought this was going to be describing how the Acela is derived from the TGV but this was way more interesting. Thanks for sharing 😁
@johncreed9433
@johncreed9433 Год назад
One of these cars is currently at the B&O rail museum in Baltimore, MD.
@RedDed228
@RedDed228 Год назад
This is the America we should strive to be.
@gagewright2220
@gagewright2220 Год назад
This is really the best train story I have heard. My only negative on it is that I haven't heard it before in school.
@robwhite3241
@robwhite3241 Год назад
Thank you for making this video!! My great great grandfather gave 7 whole carloads of wheat and was one of the biggest donators (of wheat that is). Very good story!
@linkinbooth165
@linkinbooth165 10 месяцев назад
Being from the great state of North Carolina Piedmont region we would often visit Spencer North Carolina’s Transportation history Museum. I remember seeing this car since I was able to walk pretty much. It’s amazing that many of the states were able to Keep their cars, and in the worst of circumstances restore them to their former glory. I’m glad to see that my state been able to appreciate this gift, and Will for generations to come.
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart Год назад
Ive seen the Merci Boxcar in Welch, McDowell County, West Virginia several times over the years. All of West Virginia gave up many of our young men and women for both World Wars. My father (originally from Mercer County, West Virginia) was a Combat Veteran with the US Army Air Force in the South Pacific Campaign on Guam, Tinian, Saipan and Iwo Jima. Dad was a Flightline Engineer and Mechanic on the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt. He spent 4 years in service to our country. We lost dad in '06 @ 88yo.
@georgemeyer8521
@georgemeyer8521 Год назад
Please don't forget the Statue of Liberty. I love trains, I'm a model railroader in 7 different scales with over 500 locomotives and pieces of rolling stock, but I value my freedom and friendship much, much, more and nothing says that better than the Statue of Liberty! ... Thanks
@thegamingrhino5864
@thegamingrhino5864 Год назад
I live right by Camp Perry in Ohio and i had no idea that this train existed or that we even kept a car from it
@multifan75
@multifan75 Год назад
I saw one of these Merci cars at the B&O Railroad Museum.
@paulalmquist5683
@paulalmquist5683 Год назад
I took several pictures of the Wisconsin Merci car in the National Railroad Museum, Green Bay, WI, where Class A4 60008 Dwight D Eisenhower locomotive is on display in the same hall. I hope to someday make a G scale model of that car. Thanks for sharing the story.
@sirbarongaming2138
@sirbarongaming2138 Год назад
I got to see one of the French box vans last Saturday, still in beautiful condition.
@Scagguy4014
@Scagguy4014 Год назад
Holy shit ! 700 car loads !
@user-DeLorean-Dude2024
@user-DeLorean-Dude2024 Год назад
I saw the Merci van at the KYRYM when I visited there not too long ago, and the fact that this was part of a friendship train is mind-blowing.
@Josephcavagnaro
@Josephcavagnaro Год назад
This gives the same energy as the toys 4 tots train in port jervis
@moerukaze5464
@moerukaze5464 2 месяца назад
I've seen a Merci vans IRL Never thought I'd see a video about them
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
It's wonderful how much this channel achieves in these short videos. This is so touching and uplifting, as well as another fine piece of train related history. I hope it influences some people to look further into this era. It touches on a related apparent dichotomy of the time, with George C. Marshall serving as US Army Chief of Staff throughout WWII, who Churchill called the "organizer of victory", and also received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1953, for conceiving and executing the massive aid provided to Europe after the war
@Racist_Railfan_Productions
@Racist_Railfan_Productions Год назад
I saw one of the Merci cars when I visited the railroad museum in Baltimore. It looked a bit strange seeing European rolling stock on American rails, especially since it was placed right in front of a 2-6-6-6 loco that dwarfed it in size, but it was pretty cool. Nice story behind it too.
@DomQuartuccio
@DomQuartuccio Год назад
Ron Swanson would've hated this
@vito3533
@vito3533 Год назад
“Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Don’t teach a man to fish and you feed yourself. He’s a grown man, fishing’s not that hard.” - Ron Swanson
@Wonder_Wondering
@Wonder_Wondering Год назад
Just like the Nazi pilot that escorted an American bomber out of Nazi territory, ONE plane away from becoming an ace. This has restored my faith in humanity.
@pinga858
@pinga858 Год назад
I wonder if the German even cared about being an ace at that time. Like a lot of others, they probably just wanted it to end, letting one more bomber come back was his way of helping end things, as harsh as it may be.
@Wonder_Wondering
@Wonder_Wondering Год назад
@@pinga858 that is a valid point, though since it happened so long ago we can't know for sure what was running through his mind.
@Fredbeardoesnotexist
@Fredbeardoesnotexist Год назад
Fun fact:the pilots became friends 50 years later😊
@pinga858
@pinga858 Год назад
@@Wonder_Wondering True true
@Wonder_Wondering
@Wonder_Wondering Год назад
@@Fredbeardoesnotexist that is a fun fact
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
There's a parade float in Shortsville, Ontario County, NY, that's based on a loco and a 40-8. There was a similar one on Staten Island for many years, but I think they scrapped it. It was in virtually every parade on the island from the 50s into at least the 70s
@SantaFe19484
@SantaFe19484 Год назад
One of these vans is close to where I live, at Fort Indiantown Gap, PA.
@railworksamerica
@railworksamerica 5 месяцев назад
This is what we need to be again
@JasperFromMS
@JasperFromMS Год назад
The WP article merely says that Mississippi's car is at the "Old GM&O Depot" in Jackson. The Depot was actually renovated and serves as staff offices for the MS Dept of Archives and History and is part of the Museum Complex.
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
Every video this channel has done is excellent, for multiple reasons, but this one is the best yet, in its way, imo. It's a shame there's such a lack of awareness of these events today. As C.S. Lewis showed so cleverly in The Screwtape Letters, war is a terribly evil thing, full of unspeakable horrors, but it also brings out the best in many people, and brings them closer to God.
@kittheamatureartgal5214
@kittheamatureartgal5214 Год назад
This is amazing. I am very sure I saw South Dakota's merci boxcar last year during the State Fair. I was stuck by it, because I love trains and historical stuff and it just stuck me as odd and out of place it was amongst the fair grounds. I knew had to be militariastic due to the emblums and medals, but I couldn't fingure out what it was meant to be. I had to assume it was a memorial for the veterians of the World Wars and moved on quickly to due having a busy schedule ahead of me on that day. I almost had forgotten about it till I saw what the Merci train's boxcars looked like on the video and was racking my brain for a bit of where I saw this and it clicked. I'm so glad you left a link to the wiki for where the surviving Merci boxcars are located, because it confirmed my suspicions. I'm so glad I decided to watch this video. It makes me so thrilled to know the amazing and heartwarming signifcance behind it. I even told a couple of my friends and my grandma, whom all also love history. Thank you for providing videos and telling stories of the past with the locomotives. It makes me sad these days people don't seem to care about history, but it's people like you that bring true stories like this to the light so that we may never forget them.
@Arkay315
@Arkay315 Год назад
Viva La Revolution Long live the United States.
@vwboyno5397
@vwboyno5397 Год назад
I live right by one in holly hill Florida it’s red I pass it every so often now I know it’s story thank you
@voltsiano116
@voltsiano116 Год назад
This is... a surprisingly wholesome story. ^^
@i-am-toast4235
@i-am-toast4235 Год назад
I’ve seen two of them with one in my home state at the NCTM and then another in Boulder City, AR
@biebkbejvwjvhev
@biebkbejvwjvhev 11 месяцев назад
Arizona is one of the most desolate states, but you can find our Merci boxcar on display at the McCormick-Stillman Railroad Park right here in Scottsdale.
@YJRail
@YJRail Год назад
I've seen the Merci cars for North Carolina and Georgia, they were very well-kept and very nice to see.
@peterrraklliproductions2020
This is a genuine rarity in the Train of Thought Library: a wholesome video! Sure, there are many lighthearted and funny ones, but not many wholesome ones.
@josephheuer4540
@josephheuer4540 Год назад
I got to see one of the French Gratitude Train cars. Was absolutely amazed to see.
@Sasuri
@Sasuri Год назад
I live not too far away from where Arizona’s Merci Train’s car, its a very sweet sight that often seems overlooked now. Glad to see a video on it.
@calebwelch6393
@calebwelch6393 Год назад
Hello from Mississippi! During my internship and contract work for the Mississippi Department of Archives and History in Jackson, I saw the Mississippi Merci Train daily while parking my car.
@nathandeal9703
@nathandeal9703 Год назад
And on that note I think I’ll order one or more the cars Lionel made for its version of the friendship train!
@QuintonMurdock
@QuintonMurdock Год назад
My home state’s Merci car got FUCKING LOST. like…not destroyed like some states. It’s possibly out there
@harrisonallen651
@harrisonallen651 Год назад
“The Friendship Train” - the ultimate war aid package
@dougstubbs9637
@dougstubbs9637 Год назад
“Muckraker “ Drew Pearson….a very controversial figure, the Alex Jones of his day. Ain’t nothing new under the Sun. Merci, and Cheers !
@SylviaMoonbeam1127
@SylviaMoonbeam1127 Год назад
I would argue that the “greatest” gift France ever gave the US is The Statue of Liberty aka “La Liberté éclairant le monde”. Heck, Alexandre Eiffel even worked on it… and I don’t even need to tell you what he’s most famous for, given his last name. Now, if you’re looking for a mutual gift, yeah, the friendship train thing is kinda neat
@Mindcraft1995
@Mindcraft1995 Год назад
i remember going to the Kentucky Railway Museum when i was little and seeing one of the French vans and being confused by it, i had looked it up later in life and it's truly wonderful just what the human spirit is capable of, wonderful video as always
@ckre7663
@ckre7663 5 месяцев назад
I can't believe I actually drive by the Iowa car at least once a month....
@Kukaak
@Kukaak Год назад
It's videos like these that make me wish you could do more to a video beside pressing the like button
@michaelcurrie6008
@michaelcurrie6008 Год назад
Paul harvey missed that one and now you know the rest of the story
@QuintonMurdock
@QuintonMurdock Год назад
6:35 the “missing” car is Colorado. It has not been destroyed. It’s just..out there…somewhere
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing Год назад
I've been to the Boothbay Railway Village Museum in the past, where the Merci Car for Maine rests. Unfortunately, I don't recall if I had a camera back then, otherwise I'd add an image of said artifact to the guide.
@Jayhsia1215
@Jayhsia1215 Год назад
French American Chinese/Taiwanese I almost heard of that I’m proud of this relationship
@Robert-S-World
@Robert-S-World Год назад
I live in Utah and the France car is at the Ogden Union station
@coolcat6559
@coolcat6559 Год назад
Let’s go! I wanted to see Nebraska’s and it was sold to a junkyard within a few years :)
@jamesedwards9857
@jamesedwards9857 Год назад
I've seen the one for Utah in Ogden Utah at the Ogden union station museum.
@stuff___idontknow2610
@stuff___idontknow2610 Год назад
I've seen one of those French cars, There's one on display at the railroad museum in Salt Lake city Utah
@GetsugaTensho85
@GetsugaTensho85 Год назад
Holy shit this set my heart into a meltown 🇺🇸🫡
@gravitrax6478
@gravitrax6478 Год назад
Hey I've seen the van in my state before!!!
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202
I've seen one of these French Railway Mercy cars vans are wagons whatever you guys called at it there in Europe in Ogden Utah at the Utah State Railroad Museum thank you for letting me know the true significance behind the story of this Railway car good job training thought keep up the great work my friend
@Gray_flips22
@Gray_flips22 Год назад
I have seen one of those box cars that where sent to the us it’s in Spencer train museum in North Carolina
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Год назад
How about covering the aborted 5AT Advanced Technology, the most advanced steam engine never built?
@NessWithABeard
@NessWithABeard Год назад
I find it both humorous and satisfying that Americans like me disagree with the British in our opinions of the French.
@andersonlemos-lb7se
@andersonlemos-lb7se Год назад
A love it man 😊❤
@tanforce2564
@tanforce2564 Год назад
The NCTM has one of the French boxcars
@cjstrader8171
@cjstrader8171 Год назад
If I'm correct, one of these French train cars resides in Spencer North Carolina at the NCTM to this day
@scotsleader8304
@scotsleader8304 Год назад
America was built different back then
@yeoldeseawitch
@yeoldeseawitch Год назад
yeah, it was built on the backs of slavery and colonialism
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 Год назад
*video* *The Hungarian bloke listening to ALL of this:*
@matthewpowell2429
@matthewpowell2429 Год назад
I personally saw at least Maryland's and Kentucky's.
@VicariousReality7
@VicariousReality7 Год назад
France in the 1940s: Sends entire train loaded with gifts to USA France in the 1970s: Sends warship to wall street to demand the gold theyre owed at gunpoint
@sebastianthomsen2225
@sebastianthomsen2225 Год назад
😊👍
@Paulftate
@Paulftate Год назад
Don't mess with my toot-toot😂
@tyronne2049
@tyronne2049 Год назад
The Mr beast before the Mr beast
@andrewchapman2024
@andrewchapman2024 Год назад
Is one of these vans in salt lake City? Cuz I think I may have seen one of them not knowing its significance.
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 Год назад
This is why we should’ve given France a statue back.
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
A book on common sense is a more meaningful gift. Like, how to defend your borders, and curb riots. France is a mess right now. :(
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 Год назад
@@abloogywoogywoo Um, neither France nor the US have problems with that
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
@@primrosevale1995 Well US has problems is leaving other countries alone (CIA has been mucking around in other places to protect America's interest since the 50s/60s). France has problems in protecting itself. Have you seen the recent riots? Obviously not.
@alexcanine4948
@alexcanine4948 Год назад
Neat
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Год назад
5:08 nothing for Alaska?
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 Год назад
Its so weird to hear of the usa trains... Which is so sad
@pisstowen
@pisstowen Год назад
great friends until freedom fries
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 Год назад
sorry, but that big copper statue in New York Harbor will always be France’s greatest gift. and you kissed the war with France in 1797/98 that the UK used to keep the US out of their neck of the woods forcing the US into neutrality starting in 1800 until the UK broke it in 1812…
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
The French messing around in Vietnam later triggered the war that got America delisted as a superpower. OOF.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 Год назад
@@abloogywoogywoodelisted? read a history book, what you think and whwt actually happened are two different things but i expect nothing less from Brits who hate having their own colonial idiocies constantly tossed back at them oh, how’s the genocides and decades of civil wars in multiple former countries going?
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
@@bostonrailfan2427 COUGH en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_decline COUGH
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
The statue is a very nice gift, certainly. The French fleet that forced Cornwallis to surrender to Washington is the greatest.
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
This channel is about trains, not politics or wars
@autobotoctolingthomasho3362
Why current international relationships are…….🤦
@dieseld261
@dieseld261 Год назад
guess the french aren't so bad
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Год назад
Weren't so bad. They've made a hell of mess of their country with these riots. There are some problems trains can't fix.
@explodingdynamite7319
@explodingdynamite7319 Год назад
W
@dappermachine2032
@dappermachine2032 Год назад
second :)
@SkyFire2112
@SkyFire2112 Год назад
The hell happened to America?
@Fnaffan1983e3t
@Fnaffan1983e3t Год назад
I would will the friendship to train to come back to help Ukraine and Russia after this war ends
@brushyink101
@brushyink101 Год назад
Y’all just forgot who gave the US the Statue of Liberty huh?
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 Год назад
Surprise! This video is about something else
@brushyink101
@brushyink101 Год назад
@@robertmoffett3486 No shit Really, imagine not being able to read the title
@tyronne2049
@tyronne2049 Год назад
The Mr beast before the Mr beast
@whippetwild1952
@whippetwild1952 Год назад
Monsieur Beuf.
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