THE GREATEST RIDDLER ? 

My theory is that the true Riddler was actually born in Arkham. In previous adaptations, the Riddler would always taunt Batman, trying to prove that he was more intelligent and ahead of him. However, their rivalry truly began during their encounter in Arkham. “You’re really not as smart as I thought you were” It was there that Batman failed to meet the Riddler's expectations, and when Batman is in the news helping the flood victims instead of showing Edward Nashton, Riddler feels as though Batman stole the spotlight that he rightfully deserved. The plan was for them to enjoy all of this together. This may be why he was wailing in his cell, as he now has a burning desire to outsmart Batman and prove that he is superior, and his love for riddles and puzzles is now directed towards exposing Batman as a fraud. The ending of the movie marks a turning point for the Riddler, as he becomes even more twisted and driven to outsmart the Dark Knight. I also think Joker’s riddle was multiple choice, and the answer you give says a lot about you. In this case Riddler chose “a friend”. So Joker laughs at that. That was interesting. Unrelated - Riddler’s mask is a winter combat mask you can buy cheap from an army surplus store.

“You haven’t figured it out? Oh…you’re not as smart as I thought you were. I guess I gave you too much credit” That line alone fits Riddler perfectly. Especially when he realizes that he has one up on someone he viewed as an intellectual equal

One of my favorite parts of The Batman was how these character truly felt like early stages of themselves. Like I love how the riddler starts as a man in a mask to hide his real identity and express himself and “teaming up” with Batman, and ending where his identity is revealed so now he does not need a mask, and he now feels superior to Batman since he outsmarted Bruce, but was beaten in a way that may seem like cheating to Ed. It feels like in the future he will be more like the riddler we are used to

The mask is a US Army Extreme Cold Weather Mask. That’s why, if you watch, in the message room someone says to buy the mask at a Army Surplus store. He wore the glasses over the mask in reference to the Zodiac.

There's one scene that sold me on Paul Dano. It comes nearly at the end when he and Bats are having their face to face. It's the moment he realizes that Batman has been bullshitting his way through their conversation and hasn't actually figured out the grand plan yet. That over dramatic disappointment because he thought he finally found an intellectual equal only for that (in his eyes) to be shattered was enough for me to say "yeah, ok, I see it now".

Finally The Riddler has become something more than a green bodysuit wearing, giggling hysteriac. I detect quite a bit of Ledger’s Joker portrayal in this version of The Riddler.

His cover of Ava Maria will always be legendary.

I hope we get to see Dano’s Riddler evolve, with time I could see this version becoming closer to the Riddler we all know and love.

He's a great villain plays it well, but he's not really being the Riddler but more of a serial killer with a theme.

To me, the Riddler in this movie, was more like Anarky, and, while I wish that was the villain they went with, having him be the Riddler was probably the safer bet.

Actually, the riddler is wearing an extreme cold weather mask

I think Matt Reeves took a lot of inspiration from the Riddler of Earth One and Zero Year, there he blows up the cables of an elevator killing several people after they failed a riddle and the Riddler of Zero Year flooded Gotham.

“No one gave me a chance” hits home when he said sit. Also when he talked to Batman and the movie almost made you think he knew he was Bruce was perfect

I liked this version of the riddler it was pretty cool

Honestly he felt less riddler and more taking inspiration from Ted Bundy and many serial killers around. I still like "the batman" riddler but the animated the batman riddler is my favorite as he's actually a victim to cooperate greed like Mr freeze

This version of Riddler was perfect for the tone and the story they were telling, and they left the door open for him to return with a more comic accurate look.

Definitely not the worst. I'm not a big a comicbook reader but as a cinephile I loved his psychotic and weirdly entertaining performance

Arkham City Riddler is peak Riddler. The dude was straight up jigsaw but with genius level intelligence and a massive ego. *edit. Why are comments disabled on your Bruce Wayne video?

I'd love to see Riddler come back without the need to wear his mask. Paul Dano's facial expressions are priceless and adds so much to the character especially now that the mystery of his identity is gone now. Plus, it'd feel less distant from the Riddler's usual designs.

That mask Riddler is wearing is an old surplus U.S. Winter Combat Mask, it was made back during the 40's and 50's for if we ever went to war somewhere cold.

Favorite scene in this movie is when the riddler is having his breakdown in the jail.

My favourite is the one from Gotham but I do love Paul Dano

I personally loved the movie . My favorite part of it was trying to figure out what the riddler will do next the first time watching

My favorite is still the one from Gotham but I can understand why this one could be others favorite

He was EXCELLENT imho in The Batman, i'd love to see him again in the sequel or later on down the road.

Personally, I think a cool addition to Riddler's costume could've been to give him a cane. They could've given a bit of a bit of backstory that while he was in the orphanage, one of the staff members abused him and threw him down the stairs. He would've broken his leg and to this day he still relies on the cane to get around. As a Edward Nashton, the cane is a constant reminder of his abuse, weakness and disadvantages growing up compared to Bruce Wayne... But as The Riddler, he uses the cane as a weapon to brutally beat his victims to death (like he used the carpet tool to kill the mayor). When he puts on the mask, his cane symbolises his "strength", power and brutality. I feel like just that addition would remind us that this is actually the Riddler while still sticking to the gritty realism the movie was going for (obviously the cane wouldn't have to be shaped like a question mark). It would also add some interesting backstory and make sense for the character to have this prop.

I think things like his suit and the way he looks without his suit where improves especially considering everything else in the movie.

I only knew Paul Dano from 2004s the Girl Next Door. To say I found out Klitz was playing the Riddler in a serious Batman movie was surprising.

I really loved this Riddler, but I think he should have had a different mask. Think of a mask like the one Francis Dolarhyde in Manhunter wears, only it's green with eye holes cut out. That would have been clever!

You can't always go full guns blazing and just add a supervillain. Some need to be sculpted and I think that's what they were trying to do. An imperfect will be super villain

Recently, The Riddler from The Batman movie is a very good antagonist and Paul Dano gives a great performance but he wasn't really The Riddler. It was more of an amalgamation of the Zodiac Killer, the Holiday Killer from The Long Halloween comic, Hush and The Riddler. It's definitely not my favourite depiction of the character though. My ideal and favourite depiction of the character is the Arkham games' version of the Riddler which have in my opinion the greatest depiction of The Riddler outside the comics. Wally Wingert who voiced the character in all 4 games always delivered such an incredible performance that always managed to perfectly capture Riddler's obsessive personality, massive ego and superiority complex. I adore how Riddler is next level arrogant and will constantly taunt Batman every step of the way but where he really shines is how he is up his own ass and acts as a sore loser every time Batman outsmarts him. It's for all these reasons that this is truly the best depiction of the character, because he embodies everything that the Riddler should be. He's pompous, self-absorbed, has a massive superiority complex and is literally unable to stop his compulsive riddling. I love the taunts and the boasts but the way he just completely melts down when he's beaten because he can't even begin to comprehend that he is not the smartest person in existence.

holy shit I'm actually first. But yeah, Paul Dano's Riddler is a really interesting case. Nobody can beat John Glover IMO

I prefer Jim Careys craziness over the serial killer vibes

6:24 It’s a military cold weather mask.

He’s...ok, but it feels more like Dano should have been playing the Scarecrow instead. Think about it. He always wears a mask, he hides in the shadows, he spreads fear and paranoia throughout Gotham and even has strong ties to Christianity, poverty and abandonment. He practically has Crane’s original backstory. He’s like Danny Devito’s Penguin. He’s an interesting character, but he’s not who the character should be.

I've never been one to dislike drastically different takes on characters just because they're not like the source material. I do think those roles should be faithful to an extent and shouldn't change the character too much. I hesitate to say this riddler is the greatest, maybe not fully authentic but still a very well done and interesting reimagination of the character. I was satisfied with what the movie did with him though by really focusing in on something that the Arkham series liked to put focus on too with his mental instability without taking that as far as someone like the joker where it goes into pure unfiltered psychopathy. Over all it served the movie well and like other unique aspects of this film's take on the source material it feels distinct but familiar enough for me to like it.

I'll always prefer Gorshin, especially due to all he did for the character, but other than the costume I can't say that Dano's take is entirely inaccurate. It's accurate, but only to certain stories. This Riddler feels more like a mix of "Earth One" and a bit of "Dark Night, Dark City" due to the darker take on the character's usual whimsy. Like, there's still a bit of that, but it's been corrupted, like a well done version of what they tried to do to Toyman in the 90's. Also, while I didn't find it to be that great in the film, the comic Dano is writing for this Riddler is amazing.

Well said man, well said

Lol that "bdsm" mask is actual military winter combat mask lol

My favorite riddler is the one in Gotham.

I do lol at Jim Carrey talking about his concern over Paul Dano’s Riddler taping peoples heads when he did that to himself in Yes Man

Why is vee cutting up portions of other videos and posting them as individual ones?

He was up there with heaths joker .

While I Love Jim Carrey,the Batman’s Riddle is the Best Portrayal of this Underrated Batman Villain and made His as a Part of Gotham as Possible.

Love the Batman n I would say it was 50/50 on him being the riddler

i love comic riddler but damn i really like this creepy zodiac killer riddler very much too, and the look is so different but works?

Before I watched the movie the only thing I knew about this riddler was the singing scene and I honestly thought it was a meme spliced in of Micheal Reeves singing

The greats “Face-Time” Riddler

I know he wasn't an exact copy of the Riddler from the comics or even the animated series but I did really enjoy him as he was portrayed. Although I admit that I may be a little biased because I just really like Paul Dano in everything he does

Bro had a really good start and was the best live action nygma we’ve ever gotten if there gonna bring him back bring him back without the mask cause the mask was dumb other then that perfect performance ❤️👍🔥

Paul Dano aka Bubbles aka The green Bastard...

I always thought that the cold-weather mask was going to be significant somehow.

Frank Gorshin will always be the best Riddler, but Paul Dano is a decent take. Just put him in an actual Riddler costume instead of whatever he wore in this movie.

I just realized most of all you said about the Riddler's motives and personality also reminds me of Light Yagami from "Death Note". After all, Yagami also wants to create a better world and get rid of evil, but wants to be the god of said world and kill anyone who opposes him, even if those who do are not criminals.

Green tuxedo black undershirt purple tie a cane a bolder hat black dress pants and black shoes and give him glasses that’s a design that will work

I think the portrayals of the Joker, the Penguin, and Catwoman in THE BATMAN range from just fine to very good. However, the Riddler was a disappointment to me. What the filmmakers apparently didn't understand was that the Riddler isn't just an intellectual; he's proud of his intellectualism, and even snobbish about it. He should never be shown dressing like a common thug, to the point that he's indistinguishable from any of his henchmen. I would have much preferred to see the green business suit (though I'll admit the bowler hat would have been a little too much). Equally unfortunate is the filmmakers' failure to see that Edward Nygma is NOT a miserable person, but a happy and fun-loving person. He relishes being the Riddler. He's extremely talented and so has no excuse for becoming a criminal, but he turned to crime anyway because it's such an enjoyable hobby. And finally, the Riddler should look...decent. To be sure, Frank Gorshin and Jim Carrey are/were not exactly hunks, but I couldn't imagine a bride forced to marry one of them run screaming away from the altar. But, with all due respect to Paul Dano, THIS Riddler is not handsome by any argument. I don't want a supervillain to be a rabbit-faced geek, unless it's for the purpose of humor.

The thing is the riddler won in the end his plan succeeded he sank the city. Yet hes still disappointed.

It was a good performance, but he should have been called the character he was actually playing-- Hush. The reporter that Thomas Wayne had killed even had the last name "Elliot" which would have made the criminal being Thomas Elliot so much sense.

Matt Reeveses combined 7 with Saw. And put Batman in it.

8:53 I would like to see what Frank Gorshin and John Astin think of this portrayal, although sadly Gorshin died, i'm not sure about Astin though.

That paul dano riddler may call roadman.

Its a military winter survival mask man.... bought at any army surplus store

His riddler was interesting. Mixed with the Zodiac Killer.

This was a poor Green Bastard cosplay, not the Riddler.

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He wasn’t a good comic book riddler, but he was a great riddler for the world Matt Reeves created

Ofc not its Cory Smith

I just re watched it today and OMG this movie is so good...so good to even believe it's real... Nothing is above critique though...

I do really wanna see your evaluation on the 60s TV show versions of Batman and his rogues. I'm just really curious what you think of the Silver Age incarnation of Batman in general.

Somewhere in the middle Not the worst But also not the best 🤔

Is Catwoman a fraidy-cat? 1. What do you mean, you can't see Jim Carrey's Riddler being violent? When has the Riddler ever NOT tried to kill someone in a psychopathic manner befitting a man obsessed with riddles? And there are elements of Jim Carrey's Eggman that I see in both his Riddler and Paul Dano's. 2. You've got to remember that the Riddler in The Batman was inspired by the Batman. 3. 9:11 isn't that the story of every character in The Batman: the characters we know and have yet to know, all wrapped up in one. Also, Batman at 11:49 looks like his BTAS/DCAU counterpart.

Definitely the most disturbing Riddler. But, let's face it, practically a new villain they slapped the Riddler brand on, and gave Hush's motivations to. Works very well in context, and he can still evolve into something more akin to the original.

I think Gotham's Riddler is the best, only because the Riddler's we see in other stuff has a single goal and it makes you think "what happens now?" but in Gotham Riddler is just kinda doing what he wants.

I can imagen Cory Michael Smiths Riddler doing that stuff. Hese the best Riddler.

I personally land on the side of Dano's performance being genius, but that is also because i love Dano's style in general and The Batman is one of my favorite all time films. Without this iteration of Riddler, the movie would fall apart. He is the perfect foil for Batman at this point in his career and having him portrayed like a monster in a horror film is a smart choice. And then to unmask him to find the plain, innocent looking person underneath is basically the end of every real life serial killer's story so it rings true. We WANT him to look evil so we can make sense of the horrible things he does. I can see how it is a divisive performance, particularly it seems like some people hated his outburst and singing in Arkham but i loved it and felt even though he seemed calm and intelligent, he really was just barely containing the unhinged psychopath underneath.

This was Definitely Hush not The Riddler even tho in the Animation Hush it’s Actually The Riddler under the mask

Paul Dano was a fine choice, but they took a terrible direction with the character. From copying Zodiac to Jigsaw, the character's motivation is straight out of "Law Abiding Citizen" where the main character was the accidental Villain (Jamie Foxx) and the "Villain" who has been depicted as the "Hero" in all other revenge movies (Gerard Butler) taking out the corrupt. The twist of Riddler thinking him and Batman were working together was horrible and made the Riddler look like an idiot. Then you have a good dialogue take a terrible turn when Nashton starts yelling "Noooooooo" and signing to Batman.

I hope I’m the future now that his identity is known, he adopts a more Arkham City style look to him with the suit and whatnot, since Matt has said that the villains in all the movies will be popping up everywhere.

I really like this version. It's very serial killerish which is a much needed course change for this character. Not sure why they changed his name tho

For about 10 years i said that if they were going to do the riddler again it should've been a take that was more like the seven killer saw or the zodiac killer so i loved when The Batman went that route

The ugly mask is the only thing about it i don't like. The rest of his character i love.

9:39 Danny devito’s Penguin looks like the Penguin from Arkham City

He is the BEST

I didn’t leave The Dark Knight wanting more Heath Ledger’s Joker, they gave me a sufficient amount of him in the movie. I did leave The Batman (2023) wanting more of Paul Dano’s Riddler because there was not enough of him in the movie.

A couple of things: 6:20 Its not a Gimp mask. Its actually a cold weather mask. I think it being a Gimp mask would be very tasteless and unfair to the BDSM community. Also, in Riddler's 1948 debut, he wears a domino mask. Due to the comic logic becoming more divorced from reality a domino mask isn't really good at hiding your identity. But thats what Riddler was using it for. Dano's mask has the same purpose which fits into Vee's explanation of it being an updated version of Riddler's early outfit. 7:59 Though Dano's Riddler did so to kill the Mayor and stun Colson, it shows Riddler's pragmatism. "I'm not physical. My strength is up here." (points to head) This is why Carrey's Riddler hit his boss over the head so he didn't have to struggle with him. Same with Dano. 8:05 Frank Gorshin was as sadistic and deranged as they come. He (like the other 1966 villains to be fair) lured Batman and Robin into deathtraps. One in particular where he says that they have only a couple of minutes to solve the riddle before they die. Very similar to Riddler's trap for Colson. He also ties Robin down and he slowly drifts towards a large circular saw blade. I think his Riddler was more manical, psychopathic and sadistic than Romero's Joker. Joker even calls Riddler "crazy" in the movie! I've noticed the way Gorshin extends the last syllables of the words was brought back by Dano too. 8:31/8:57 In Riddler's 1948 debut he challenges Batman to save a man who he's locked in a mangled looking cage which is slowly closing in on itself and suffocating the man. (which is absolutely horrific) At the end of the story he also tricks Batman and Robin into getting trapped in a mirror maze which he's rigged to explode. B:TAS Riddler also set his boss up in a Minotaur themed trap that if unsolved would kill him. Then there's the Arkhamverse Riddler who uses violence and deathtraps heavily. Earth One Riddler (who is an influence on Dano's Riddler) was also a serial killer and domestic terrorist. There's also Telltale which has Riddler having similar revenge motives (his last target is Gotham city) and torturing his victims who are usually corrupt. There is a comic called Riddler and the Riddle Factory (where Riddler abducts Gotham's elite and broadcasts himself live exposing their dirty secrets for all of Gotham to see. Sound familiar?) where the writer does get one thing wrong about Riddler. He laments that the villains are all more violent "Joker's killing people for christ's sake!" and he's explicitly referencing the 60s as if it were all a fun game and they weren't actually trying to hurt anyone. Wagner is looking at the 60s through rose tinted glasses. Again, behind the goofiness the villains were perhaps more despicable than they ever were. Joker was a self serving creep that lacks any empathy for anyone. He straps Robin to a table so giant propellers can come down and splatter what's left of him over a giant card canvas, while Batman watches. I don't think there's anything more Joker than that. Obviously Riddler's proto-Saw shenanigans. The villains were always trying to kill Batman and Robin in traps that were designed for them to suffer before they died. Go watch the cliffhanger compilation. Gorshin could definitely pull off the rat trap. Not on a kids show, but Gorshin's Riddler definitely has something like that in his nature. What I'd change would be that instead of a green parka, he'd be wearing this. (credit to SholarlyHeathen) www.reddit.com/r/TheBatmanFilm/comments/u43h31/a_riddler_concept_sketch/ but instead of greyish blue gloves, he's be wearing purple latex cleaning gloves.

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he’s not complete yet so we also have to see where this all goes.

It just takes some time Batman your in the middle of a riddler crime Everything everything will be just fine Everything everything will be alright alright

GORSHIN IS THE RIDDLER ( MOVIES OR TV)

Riddler + "Realism" = The Zodiac

I think if i had to add to his costume, a hat would have been nice to see, making his eyes a little harder to see would have made him even creepier, and it would add some more comic accuracy

This was the worst version of the riddler. They basically turned him into the Zodiac killer. Then they made him an autistic 4chan user who spazzes out at Batman. Then he starts singing Ave Maria. It was pathetic.

I could see Corey Michael Smith do the heinous acts that were in the movie in a Gotham spin-off/sequel than every other incarnation minus Dano ofc & 🤔 the Arkham Game & Hush Movie if he survived

Frank gorshin is the greatest riddler period,he pretty much defined what the riddler should be and look like,if it werent for him the riddler would never have his classic green suit and tie.its sad that some people think this is the best riddler.

Wwe please yes

He is the best Riddler.

Dude he is just the DK joker with slightly more riddles… not the riddler.

To me the Riddler is one of the few Batman villains who doesn't demand a specific look or costume. The Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Bane, the Mad Hatter and so many others have key characteristics that are reflected by their appearance in some way, be that their bodies or their costumes. At his core the Riddler is an extreme narcissist craving attention and recognition of his intellect who has dangerous traps with twisted riddles as the only means of escape. There's nothing there that demands he dress a certain way or have certain physical features (although to me he shouldn't be physically threatening). Plus to me I find it hard to see the Riddler as menacing when he's got question marks all over him, and even the hat and domino mask for me is a bit much. At most I get that there's a showmanship aspect to it, but honestly if he were just a guy with glasses and a plain green suit and tie I'd find that more intimidating than his usual comic look, even if it is less flashy. Growing up I never liked the Riddler and it was mainly because of his leotard design which was all I really ever saw, it wasn't until later in my teens I saw more serious adaptations like the animated series that made me realize how great of a villain he was, and I always wanted to see a take that leaned more into the potential menace of the character. The second he was revealed in that first trailer, that's what got me hooked for this movie. The Riddler put through a Zodiac Killer filter was a genius move, and he's used sparingly which worked. He's the thing Batman is after, so the pursuit of him and his lack of screen time I feel gives him a far greater haunting presence, the effect he has on the city feels like a looming shadow across the whole film. To me this take was a lot like the Heath Ledger Joker or the other Joker takes we've had in film since, they lean into specific core aspects of the character regarding his view on society and his psychotic aspects rather than his goofier gadgets and laughing gas. The Riddler has never had as dark a take as this but it works, whereas for me the Joker I'd like to see get back to those Caesar Romero/Mark Hamill goofier aspects. To me this Riddler was an alternate take that was very much needed, something to show what the character is capable of in terms of menace compared to his last film appearance. It's a serious contender for my favorite adaptation of him, even if its not what I'd call the definitive iteration of the character.

I said the riddler costume looks like the green bastard from trailer park boys

I love how Matt Reeves really grounded the movie and Dano grounded the character. It wasn't an outlandish take on Riddler like Jim Carreys for example.