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The Greatest YMCA player in NBA history | Alperen Şengün 

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Is Alperen Sengun any good? How similar is he to NBA MVP Nikola Jokic? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report explores how the Rockets big man impacts the game with his incredible passing, unorthodox scoring moves and unique style of play while examining his defensive future moving forward.
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@ThinkingBasketball
@ThinkingBasketball Год назад
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@firatparlak7816
@firatparlak7816 Год назад
Thank you ❤
@ismailozozdemir6485
@ismailozozdemir6485 Год назад
Thanks dude .
@turc9808
@turc9808 Год назад
Thanks
@20hkn23
@20hkn23 Год назад
thank you
@007supertime
@007supertime Год назад
ALPEREN Sengun Will BE Better than Jokic, he is only 19 ,super HIGH IQ player "TURKISH DELIGHT "
@gavinstroup9261
@gavinstroup9261 Год назад
I appreciate how Ben shows bad plays as well as the good. It helps us not overreact to highlight reels
@lukaslambs5780
@lukaslambs5780 Год назад
I agree completely! No player is perfect!
@NewNormalWorldOrder
@NewNormalWorldOrder Год назад
Wowie wowie
@charlesfowler4308
@charlesfowler4308 Год назад
@@lukaslambs5780 Apart from Boris Diaw of course
@busterkeaton1001
@busterkeaton1001 Год назад
it's more of a scouting evaluation, than a fan-based hightlight reel.
@richardchen9912
@richardchen9912 Год назад
His highlight reel is one of a kind though 😂
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank Год назад
The Rockets may be a disaster, but this guy makes them worth watching sometimes.
@dr.t.5404
@dr.t.5404 Год назад
Rockets fan here. The way this organization has treated Jalen Sengun and Bari has been utterly ridiculous. They’ve been doing nothing but setting these young boys up to fail and it hurts my heart to see
@judoka.
@judoka. Год назад
im just assuming that silas has some dirt on tillman at this point because WHY TF IS HE STILL HERE?!
@2d540
@2d540 Год назад
@@judoka. Probs for tanking purposes. I think he's gone next season.
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan Год назад
Who's Bari?
@lakersforever9572
@lakersforever9572 Год назад
@@zoulzopan Jabari smith Jr.
@nodefense
@nodefense Год назад
not really lol, couldve done more with Bari for sure but Sengun gets plenty of opportunities, especially lately. Definitely can utilise them better but this is an extreme overreaction
@exiledknight3961
@exiledknight3961 Год назад
Sengun = Charmander Sabonis = Charmeleon Jokic = Charizard
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 Год назад
Heck yeah!!!
@clevisbernier8973
@clevisbernier8973 Год назад
lmao
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN Год назад
The modern versions of Arvydas Sabonis & Bill Walton. The high IQ Centers with Elite playmaking. I love watching those guys play.
@jagermaster1758
@jagermaster1758 Год назад
This is accurate lol
@metehandivitli4601
@metehandivitli4601 Год назад
Everybody Loves Charmender bro 😊
@BobbyJenko
@BobbyJenko 10 месяцев назад
Who’s here after the start of the 23-24 season when Sengun has seemingly added a mid-range game and the beginnings of a 3 point shot? Ooooooo boy it’s lookin bright!
@noahkingsley4103
@noahkingsley4103 Год назад
That behind the back pass to no one had me laughing hard.
@wongsanti
@wongsanti Год назад
Me too! 😆 🤣
@mda990
@mda990 Год назад
lol looks like a troll enjoying himself in the NBA😂😆
@smhmyhead9307
@smhmyhead9307 Год назад
timestamp?
@lucas_13.
@lucas_13. Год назад
this whole sequence fucked me up
@lucas_13.
@lucas_13. Год назад
@@smhmyhead9307 1:42
@doktarr
@doktarr Год назад
With Sabonis and Sengun out there, we can see that Jokic is creating a new archetype for how you can succeed on the court.
@holdencooper5558
@holdencooper5558 Год назад
I’d like to think it’s just a gen z bill walton or aryvadas
@cloudmoore2834
@cloudmoore2834 Год назад
Sabonis didn’t learn from jokic his dad was the jokic before jokic. Just didn’t have a long career since he came into the nba at such an old age
@Jabbersac
@Jabbersac Год назад
@@cloudmoore2834 Absolutely, baby Sabonis is a chip off the old block! Arvydas must be proud.
@adamyup7086
@adamyup7086 Год назад
@@cloudmoore2834yes but the success of Jokic has lead to guys like Sabonis given the freedom to play like that.
@Psquared2324
@Psquared2324 Год назад
@@holdencooper5558 I'd also like to add Webber. He was an extremely underrated passer. His name is never mentioned but it should be.
@behindthearcyt
@behindthearcyt Год назад
this is a elite title ben😭and sengun i think could fully breakout into a all star next szn if the rockets fire silas and get a coach that will use sengun as the offensive hub similar to how the kings use sabonis and the nuggets use jokic
@paigesmith4963
@paigesmith4963 Год назад
I feel like it’s not even silas, it’s the front office that want that. They want green and porter to have the ultimate green light in hopes they progress, while not giving a care about the rest of the team
@judoka.
@judoka. Год назад
@@paigesmith4963 no they don’t, you clearly don’t pay attention to the team.
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan Год назад
Tanking not done yet obviously
@paigesmith4963
@paigesmith4963 Год назад
@@judoka. no they don’t what? Like are you agreeing with me? Why would agree then say I don’t watch? Of course I watch them. Why would I comment fam.
@Texasdex84
@Texasdex84 Год назад
I’d love to see it but with KPJ and Green chucking up shots like they do it ain’t never gonna happen
@bonedamage
@bonedamage Год назад
I'm still devastated my Spurs picked Primo (how's that going????) over Sengun. He seemed SO Spursian, I don't care that we had Poetl at the time! I'm punching air.
@shorewall
@shorewall Год назад
Ooo, that would have been a good pick.
@blbaggdt
@blbaggdt Год назад
We are devastated too as turkish nba fans. Popovich could make him a real star. He cant reach his true potential with Silas. Thats a shame.
@Penterror
@Penterror Год назад
@@blbaggdt Its okay, hes a future knick anyway
@hittkid6312
@hittkid6312 Год назад
Damn that would have been so good specially with Pop having experience coaching skilled bigs
@alfredogonzalez7250
@alfredogonzalez7250 Год назад
I almost punched the TV after they announced Cockua Primo. They messed up big time.
@michaelboyles714
@michaelboyles714 Год назад
As a rockets fan, this guy is the only reason I watch basketball right now
@peacepipe_
@peacepipe_ Год назад
As a Turkish fan of u, i cant tell how good this video feels me right now. I m pretty sure this ll be good moral support for many people in those hard days we live in Turkey. Thank you both Alpi and you, you are the best.
@maxg8651
@maxg8651 Год назад
Stay safe friend! I’m seeing footage from Hatay and it makes me so emotional.
@bryanchandler3486
@bryanchandler3486 Год назад
Wishing you and your country a good recovery. I'm so so sorry.
@soprano7088
@soprano7088 Год назад
@@bryanchandler3486 🙏
@randygraham926
@randygraham926 Год назад
Good luck to our Turkish friends!
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 Год назад
Would like to go to turkey some day
@miraclemaker1418
@miraclemaker1418 Год назад
What's interesting is the amount of posters and chasedown blocks this dude has, so he clearly has bounce when he is able to get some stride in, but as you have said what he's lacking severely is his vertical without a run-up and his lateral speed. Great analysis btw, love the vid
@steveal8264
@steveal8264 Год назад
Is there way to improve that?
@miraclemaker1418
@miraclemaker1418 Год назад
@@steveal8264 to some degree yes. He can becoms a serviceable if not decent defender in time, but I think he will never be able to become an elite defender. Hope he proves me wrong though
@denizakin5645
@denizakin5645 Год назад
His wingspan also seems short. Jokic is a bad rim protector with similar issues too, but he can hide some things with his long wingspan and quick hands. Also on offense he can then use a couple passing angles that Şengün can't.
@GoZags43
@GoZags43 Год назад
@@miraclemaker1418 Yeah it’ll take him getting in ELITE shape physically to ever be neutral on defense I’m afraid. Jokic has started taking his body seriously in the off-season though, so I have a feeling Sengun will too. One year of him being 100% dedicated to perfecting his physique/athleticism would do wonders for his career.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
Its funny that the comments are asking how he can become elite on D when maybe at best he's good enough to man a big at the paint or play the drop well. What needs to be elite is the defense at the wings so they can make it harder for perimeter players to come in or provide help. Sengun has the craft to figure out how to defend screens/dropping vs ball handlers but he can't do it all when his wing teammates are just letting the ball handler through like a NYC subway turnstile for free.
@MoonMoon-bj9jr
@MoonMoon-bj9jr Год назад
As a rockets fan, all the things are on point. He does show some defensive IQ on positioning himself it’s just that even with good positioning, his vertical defense isn’t there. And we also have a coach worse than Dwayne Casey running the offense and defense with no vet installing a winning culture. Even though it looks grim right now, with coaching change and inviting some valuable vets can drastically turn us around!
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN Год назад
He can overcome the lack of verticality. Jokic did it by becoming Elite at playing the P&R & keeping his hands active in the paint. He is never going to do good getting switched onto Luka or Curry, but there isn't a Center in the NBA that is going to be good in that situation.
@SoloPerICommenti
@SoloPerICommenti Год назад
@@pewpewTN elite fot Jokic sounds a stretch
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
@@pewpewTN Jokic also has at least 3 inches vertically and via the wingspan over Sengun. So his overall ceiling as an interior defender is flat out better. Him being better at the drop and defending the screen is just icing on the cake. At least with Sengun's footwork getting switched against smaller ball handlers isn't an issue as bigs with poor footwork are the ones who get preyed upon. But he will still need help like anyone else caught in that situation who doesn't have the length/verticality.
@eyemunchained8968
@eyemunchained8968 Год назад
At 6 feet 9 inches he should be a YMCA legend
@ThinkingBasketball
@ThinkingBasketball Год назад
You got me with that one
@abdullahunal8745
@abdullahunal8745 Год назад
Sorry but whats that YMCA thing
@dpxxl
@dpxxl Год назад
@@abdullahunal8745 Aslında uluslararası bir hayır kurumu ama halka açık ve ücretsiz spor tesisleri inşa ettikleri için direkt tesislere YMCA diyorlar Amerika'da. Bildiğin ücretsiz kapalı spor salonu aslında.
@hasancosar9781
@hasancosar9781 Год назад
He is 6 ft 11 now.
@alkinceylan
@alkinceylan Год назад
@@hasancosar9781 Sabonis is 6'11" and Alperen is definately at least an inch shorter actually. To me its 2"
@beastmry
@beastmry Год назад
This man's nickname should be the Whirling Dervish. That's such a cool name
@gunerarslan2520
@gunerarslan2520 Год назад
I m a Turkish guy and i laughed a lot on this one. Cheers dude.
@thebokism
@thebokism Год назад
He is one of the most fun player in nba alongside jokic and kyrie
@Hak616
@Hak616 Год назад
This guy can master the post up game perfectly, he's made for it
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 Год назад
Only you and Sengun could make a missed 5 foot hook, a thing of beauty
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 Год назад
Not to detract from Sengun but its so wholesome seeing the Joker have players that look up and emulate his game.
@marklindsey4668
@marklindsey4668 Год назад
There's something about Euro league style players that I enjoy watching! They love to pass and are good at it
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m Год назад
Kinda what happens when you become back to back mvp
@VladimirElliot
@VladimirElliot Год назад
Stephen Silas needs to be put in prison for prioritizing KPJ and Jalen over him🤦🏾‍♂️less than 30 minutes a night!
@bagchasingbandit6274
@bagchasingbandit6274 Год назад
Lmao Stephan Silas the tank commander😂
@johnmarkson1990
@johnmarkson1990 Год назад
what happens if they commit to sengun and build around him and then find out he is useless in the playoffs? they need to build systems around each player they have. not just sengun.
@dubuwubu2254
@dubuwubu2254 Год назад
A basketball channel called Andy Hoops actually explained this, said his limited playing time is caused by frequent foul troubles due to his poor defense. But then the Rockets don't play any legit defense whatsoever so it could just be him playing the game of basketball while his teammates don't. I like how he plays, nonetheless.
@futurehofer1564
@futurehofer1564 Год назад
@@johnmarkson1990 KPJ is useless in the playoffs lol
@fremunda
@fremunda Год назад
@@dubuwubu2254 as a rockets fan that's watched every game these past two seasons, that isn't true. that is what Stephen silas has claimed is the reason for keeping him off the floor but no one on the team plays defense and he actually doesn't foul as much as many of our other players
@toasteranus1611
@toasteranus1611 Год назад
As a huge Rockets and Sengun fan, I think you nailed this analysis. When he's used as the offensive hub he looks like one of the best playmakers in the league but when he's made to primarily take plays made for him by other players, he struggles to get going. I can definitely see Alpy adding a 3-ball in the near future to take his offense to the next level, although I'm not sure he'll ever be anything more than an adequate defender. As long as the rockets continue to invest in players like Jabari Smith Jr. and Tari Eason, who could be future all-defensive team selections, he will only have to be a non-liability on the defensive end. Overall, the future looks bright in Houston if Alperen Sengun gets to captain the ship.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
That is if he gets to do that. You also need players who can play off that play style. I think the Kings this season is a great example of that where the addition of Huerter allows them to attack defenses with the two man screen game between him and Domas. And everyone else can flow into that action with their wings cutting or even letting Fox playing give and go.
@BooksYouHaventRead
@BooksYouHaventRead Год назад
masterful edit with the: "there are real questions about his defense." *Segun turns around shocked* at 7:42
@Hypergraph
@Hypergraph Год назад
he is still so young, in learning phase , give him a few years and he'll become much stronger and much better.
@AnacondaHL
@AnacondaHL Год назад
This might be the first video I've watched from you guys that evoked a legit laugh-out-loud funny response from me, this sequence at 1:26 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eazybennett
@eazybennett Год назад
Love the video. Would be interesting to see how Sengun plays defensively in a line-up without two of the worst defensive guards in the league.
@alkinceylan
@alkinceylan Год назад
Most people misses this fact.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
Don't bother bringing that up as a conversation. Surface level understanding of bigs even from the avid viewers of this great channel think every big prospect should (and has the chance) to be everything everywhere all at once on defense especially against screen games at the perimeter. And the wing players involved are excused for their porous efforts because they are cool one dimensional scorers on the other side.
@jojoprocess2820
@jojoprocess2820 Год назад
​@@t4d0W Youre right that bigs often get too much blame for their wings/guards, but alperen is a truly horrific defender who has a loooooong ways to go to not be someone who can be played off the floor in the playoffs, even if he was surrounded by jrue and kawhi
@SenorAzazel
@SenorAzazel Год назад
I feel like Houston has several hidden gems on their team that they don't really use to their full potential tbh.
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer Год назад
Alpi and Tari need to play 30+ mpg every night
@futurehofer1564
@futurehofer1564 Год назад
facts Ja'Sean Tate would THRIVE in a team like Golden State or a contender imo
@iambarryallen
@iambarryallen Год назад
Theyre tanking. You dont wanna show teams your hidden gems til after next years draft. If other teams can see they have great young players, they might wanna include them in future deals
@LightningMo3
@LightningMo3 Год назад
Ugh... the description of the YMCA player has never hit me so personally, at 20 I thought it was a phase, at 25 I still don't care about anything about anything but dropping those dimes, Sengun is already almost next to Giddey and Jokic for me as favorite passer, so awesome to have these guys that kind of represent the guys who's gift for the game is next-level passing.
@LightningMo3
@LightningMo3 Год назад
@@Lucifer6x3 tbh, players like this can't be super effective unless the other guys are either athletic or also have iq to beat their opponents on the movements created.
@johnjackson1534
@johnjackson1534 Год назад
Sengun being a second year player at only 20 years old shows great potential for a future all star in this league. It took Sabonis until year 3/4 to show the stats and potential Sengun is demonstrating in year 2. If the Rockets organization invests in this young squad and bring in a head coach with a more structured approach we could see some real progress. Coach Silas has lost this team and it shows on the court from the lack of accountability and the amount of hero ball we've seen this season.
@glenmosier8644
@glenmosier8644 10 месяцев назад
This video aged really well with the addition of VanVleet. Having that 3 point threat, and having a good point guard for the pick and rolls/pops has made life better and easier on him and we can see he's still growing in his game.
@alper47
@alper47 Год назад
I am surprised when I read the comments. We're talking about a 20-year-old boy from the other side of the world. It has been 2 years, he got used to a new country, a new culture, got used to the league despite being away from his friends and his country, learned the language and kept these statistics. Success is inevitable for someone with this character and talent.
@pedroaugustocosta2533
@pedroaugustocosta2533 Год назад
People look at prospects and rookies and want nothing but all star caliber from day one, if you don't enter the NBA putting 30 and 10 you're a scrub that should be out of the league
@alper47
@alper47 Год назад
@@pedroaugustocosta2533 There is nothing in the name of basketball in the nba. noble basketball is played in europe. This is the reason why European players have been so successful in the NBA for years. For example, it is necessary to see the game view of alperen and the positions he has created for his friends. He doesn't need to score 30 points, if he can play the other players in the team and create a position for them, that means more than 30 points anyway. This is why basketball is not played in the nba.
@thebokism
@thebokism Год назад
Not sure if he will ever get his range but he has a pretty good touch and a good shooting form just needs couple of off season work. His strength and verticality will improve a bit in a couple of years remember he is only 20 and now he has a chance to work with the best trainers in US. Turnovers are a problem but man he made 11 assists tonight. One thing that is missing in this video is that he is extremely flexible and agile with good effort( he still lacks condition though) which will make him an average defender in time.
@Hypergraph
@Hypergraph Год назад
yeah. he is in his early 20s and there is a long way to go. He've just started to learn this game in the Rockets as an NBA player. I am absolutely sure he'll gain weight and experience in the coming years.
@binary
@binary Год назад
I freaking love Sengun. I wanted the Warriors to get him so badly, but they are still invested in Wisebum.
@sed64
@sed64 Год назад
Yesss , Şengün at Golden State. ❤
@osmaneryavuz6964
@osmaneryavuz6964 Год назад
Best fit
@realtalk6195
@realtalk6195 8 месяцев назад
I think Alperen can become a legend with a lesser team than the Warriors or Lakers, and I definitely don't want to see him ruin himself with the Clippers or Knicks either. The Rockets need to promote him more.
@AJHDC
@AJHDC Год назад
"Sengun's passes are outakes from a Jokic highlight reel" - Rob Lowe
@hongkids3814
@hongkids3814 Год назад
Thanks for putting the time and effort into making these videos. Keep up the good work!
@emirhanates188
@emirhanates188 Год назад
I really like Sengun , i am NBA fan also support him because i am also turkish but I appreciate that you also showed his weaknesses and bad plays . A lot of people just showing his talent and good sides , thanks for being honest and criticising both sides of Sengun. I just saw your video but be sure that i'll be watching your videos always.
@userwhom
@userwhom Год назад
Alpi reminds me of that one guy in COD online that you hate to play against because of how unpredictable his play style is. He does everything his own weird way and because of how unorthodox it is, it somehow ends up working.
@StevenEatsAlone
@StevenEatsAlone Год назад
COD sucks
@salihoyun126
@salihoyun126 Год назад
Ahahaha ! Just a blind hater
@Eidenhoek
@Eidenhoek Год назад
3:55 This is so, *so* clean, I had to rewatch to figure out what the heck was going on. It's freaking beautiful. Which, to get on my soapbox ow my knees, is what infuriates me when there's the rhetoric that basketball is boring or dying. THIS, is basketball. Space manipulation. Passing into space. Anticipation. It's *really* hard to see realtime, I openly admit, but that's what makes it *insane* that these passes are happening at all. Basketball, more and more, is becoming soccer in a much more enclosed space (and, y'know, running over someone for a dunk obvs), and I love that.
@drewpy14
@drewpy14 9 месяцев назад
i love you so much for articulating it like this. these are exactly my thoughts lol. its weird how much easier sports are in general for me now. i feel like because of soccer, I can figure out any game pretty damn well.
@jolosarmiento24
@jolosarmiento24 Год назад
Jokic, Sabonis and Sengun are my 3 favorite players to watch right now
@eriksports
@eriksports Год назад
I don't think its hyperbole to say that there is a possibility 6 years from that Sengun is the best player on the Rockets and an all-star level player. Its entirely dependent on his shot and if he can extend it, which is obviously a massive if, but the potential is there.
@michaelsledge3904
@michaelsledge3904 Год назад
I agree
@Playboipete
@Playboipete Год назад
its also possible hes not in the league lol. honestly just as possible. best player with jalen and potential whembya or scoot... ok sure
@saliksalik
@saliksalik Год назад
@@Playboipete nuh man, he will be in the leage for sure
@eriksports
@eriksports Год назад
@@Playboipete I would say its close to 0% chance a player of Sengun's potential is out of the league in 6 years. It would have to be because of injuries which obviously would stink. Wemby and Scoot are very obviously not on the Houston Rockets at this time.
@vincentchauvet6654
@vincentchauvet6654 Год назад
@@Playboipete people rag on about sengun's defense but statistically hes been average and by eye test hes slightly below average meanwhile jalen has been historically bad on defense while barely cracking 40% from the field.
@amarevanhook7453
@amarevanhook7453 Год назад
1:30 got me crying😭😭😭😭
@NOYOUSHUTUP3.14
@NOYOUSHUTUP3.14 Год назад
It's funny when I was watching him score I thought of Rony Seikley with all of those spins, but Rony was a much more athletic big and moves like Alperen does would be dunks when Seikley would do them. Upon watching this breakdown I came up with another inside, below the rim score, with all the upfakes, the spins, the sneaky strength and contact initiating.... Aidrian Dantley. Of course Sengun is a MUCH more capable and willing passer than OG AD ever was but given rhe hybridization of the game you really can't come up with clean comps for modern players. Again love this channel! It is quickly becoming the only basketball channel that I can confidently leave a comment on that won't eventually devolve into a war of words.
@ThinkingBasketball
@ThinkingBasketball Год назад
Great comps.
@Clawed1234
@Clawed1234 Год назад
Sengun averages a ton of blocks/steals/fouls which to me signifies he has high defensive effort. His wingspan is 2-3 inches longer than Sabonis. Hakeem said he was "amazed" how agile and flexible Sengun is. Kevin Durant said he was surprised how much hops he has. You are undercutting his defense and his athleticism.
@mbulentozfirat8102
@mbulentozfirat8102 Год назад
I had to watch another false narrative about Sengun defense. Liability blah blah, nothing backed up with any stats. He has more steals than those quick guards, more blocks and rabounds than anyone on the roaster. And opposing bigs always have low scores while playing agaist him. Very poor work is done here without advanced stats and deep analysis. The problem in houston is perimeter defense of guards and Jabari lack of help defense, not him. He always had to guard two players on drop
@ichirosuzuki2252
@ichirosuzuki2252 Год назад
@@mbulentozfirat8102 steals and blocks aren't really indicative of anything. A player can have a ton of steals and be a liability on defense because they gamble for them. A player can have tons of blocks and be horrible on defense because they always go for blocks instead of being in good position and preventing shots. (see: Hassan Whiteside)
@mbulentozfirat8102
@mbulentozfirat8102 Год назад
@@ichirosuzuki2252 you better watch some other sports bro. Or check individual defensive stats of the team before you open your mouth
@Clawed1234
@Clawed1234 Год назад
@@ichirosuzuki2252 Steals and blocks don't equal good defense but they signify something. Block = he has some vertical game. Steals = good BBIQ able to obtain steals as a post player is good sign. Hasan Whiteside doesn't have the steals that Sengun has.
@DirtySprite9
@DirtySprite9 Год назад
Future all-star no doubt. The rockets just need to accept that he’s their true franchise cornerstone and give him the keys to the team
@wjm52358
@wjm52358 Год назад
What's the alternative?
@j.s.t.6515
@j.s.t.6515 Год назад
I don't think he's going to be an All star if he can't play any defense at all and doesn't shoot the ball either. If he can get a mid range j at least, mayyyyybee
@WXLTUR
@WXLTUR Год назад
⁠@@j.s.t.6515He doesn’t have to shoot threes to be an all star
@motivationalburst
@motivationalburst Год назад
@@j.s.t.6515 he is 20 my friend ... with 24-25 he would have at least defense like jokic and shooting so lets see whats gonna happen
@realtalk6195
@realtalk6195 8 месяцев назад
I want to see the Rockets' G-League team (RGV Vipers) sign two of his Turkish teammates, Sadik Emir Kabaca and Ercan Osmani, to a one-year deal just to test them out. He's played his whole Turkish club career with them and are still teammates on the national team. If it works out they could pair them together on the NBA court and the Houston Rockets could become a powerhouse.
@antondelacruz9362
@antondelacruz9362 Год назад
Very clear and concise voice over. I dont even play bball.
@pg13pacernation30
@pg13pacernation30 Год назад
He is still so Young, got that raw big man talent and got time to develope into a great player. He is one of my favorite young up coming player. He already has incredible footwork and great vision for a big man. Hopefully his FT shooting improves and I'm sure his defense will get better down the line. Excited to see how he turns out in a few years.
@hollins625
@hollins625 Год назад
You gotta love this kind of passing and court vision on a big man. Seems to me, the game is changing that big men are the primary playmakers and little guys do most of the scoring.
@zdthekilla6950
@zdthekilla6950 Год назад
BASKETBALL IS A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL GAME. It’s lovely how it translates to the younger generation
@BenjaminPawlak-oh2ep
@BenjaminPawlak-oh2ep Год назад
Sengun is 20 years old. No, he's not perfect, as Thinking Basketball makes abundantly clear in this video, but he's a lot farther along in his development as a player than Sabonis and Jokic were at that age while also playing for the worst coach in the entire league. He's going to be a regular All-NBA guy at some point in the future.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
LOL I dunno about All-Nba. Even Domas himself is a Great Value ™ Jokic with clear weaknesses on defense and he's def not an All-NBA caliber talent. But it is possible to hide those with the right teammates and as the Kings have shown, enhance his value as a playmaking big with giving him a shooter/playmaker like Huerter to play off with. If the Rockets are committed to Sengun, they have to build the team a similar way. Otherwise just flip him to another team and get a real complimentary talent to the core the Rockets are committed to.
@onmywayup94
@onmywayup94 Год назад
All NBA? Lmao when do you see him being a top 3 center?
@ConnorBrew19
@ConnorBrew19 Год назад
@@onmywayup94people said that about Jokic too
@Desi365
@Desi365 Год назад
I don't think so. He has mental weaknesses that will become obvious in playoff games, too. On top of his weird and largely inefficient game. Utimately, I belive he just sucks. Imean, he has real talent but he sucks.
@JT-tl5mk
@JT-tl5mk Год назад
LOL
@bigdaddyleroy1915
@bigdaddyleroy1915 Год назад
he reminds me of Hakeem O.
@mrstar9
@mrstar9 Год назад
The reason of his poor vertocality on defense is to prevent fouls. He used to contest evwry shot with all his might and got subbwd out cuz of that. A lot. Nowadays he just puts his arms up and even steps back to lower thw contact as much as possible. His chasedown block game is strong though. He has good timing on that.
@matthewmullins4046
@matthewmullins4046 Год назад
Sounds like if the coaches weren't crap there's some potential there. Could teach him how to contest better. Mobley jumps high all the time so it can be done Rockets coaching staff is terrible 😔
@sametcer4806
@sametcer4806 Год назад
Almost everything he does gets whistle because he is considered a new player i guess. When he improves himself to the league and gets rid of the foul problem he will be better.
@sfwisdom6673
@sfwisdom6673 Год назад
Glad you said something about him. He has been catching my eye with his witty plays for a while now.
@octaviacoleman2476
@octaviacoleman2476 Год назад
the shimmy at 1:30 is seriously the funniest thing I've seen in awhile
@Sean.Cordes
@Sean.Cordes Год назад
This video is spot on. I agree with your later points - to me Sengun reminds me a lot more of Domantas Sabonis than Jokic due to his shorter range on shots and smaller stature (you can see it when they're next to each other. Like you said in the video, he's a solid 2 inches shorter than Jokic at least, despite being listed 6'11. Jokic is listed 6'11 but probably closer to 7'0, and Sengun is probably closer to 6'9) and just... well, he's not quite as ahead of the defense as Jokic is in terms of reading and controlling the game. Still, he's gonna be a great player and if Houston is smart they'll build around him going forward in the ways that Denver has built around Jokic and Sac has built around Sabonis. Sengun and Jalen Green has the makings of a deadly 2 man game, if they can just get themselves more organized and precise.
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад
OMG, never heard of him but his game is indeed old man basketball from the YMCA. He's that 40yr old guy who use to play but now is a little overweight and much slower than his youth but smarter than ever. That 40yr old knows all the little moves and tricks and sometimes likes to just pretend he's 20yrs old again enjoying the game like a kid.
@ziggle5000
@ziggle5000 Год назад
I've seen you post on this channel as if you're some sort of expert arguing John Stockton is a goat passer because of assist numbers and now you say you've never heard of Sengun? Smh can't say I'm surprised.
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад
@@ziggle5000 oh, you mean the short guy who wasn’t among the most explosive nor a big scorer but somehow has amazing advance numbers such as leading the league in offensive box plus minus and often beating Malone in offensive ratings and often among the top in the league in offensive win shares is somehow not among the elite passers of all time? You, like all the people in that other thread, won’t respond with an answer on how he was not one of the top passers of all time while not being an elite scorer yet having tremendous offensive advance stats.
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад
@@ziggle5000 I do look forward to your rebuttal because I’m sure you’re the one that is able to figure out how Stockton isn’t an elite all time passer yet advance stats have very high up when his game was mostly from passing. As I stated in the other thread, my guess is Stockton was a great passer due to passing decision making and placing the ball perfectly for a shooter for improved scoring chances as opposed to someone that makes more complex passes. Anyone that has ever played basketball knows how important it is to get the ball perfectly passed to you. I do look forward to you’re response oh wise one.
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 Год назад
Never heard of this dude great breakdown and an interesting player for sure
@trofl
@trofl Год назад
Georges Niang played a lot like this in college before honing his "jump" shot. He was a bucket in the post with those YMCA moves to shoot over bigger and bouncier defenders. However in the NBA, his lack in other post player necessities like rebounding and shot altering means he has to play alongside other big men which means he's not going one on one when in the post which tends to negate this kind of offense.
@gaj7062
@gaj7062 Год назад
Dude is literally this guy John we used to play with. Guy was in his late 50s early 60s, slow as hell, inconsisten outside shooting, but when it came to passes, post moves, leverage, and general iq there was no one better
@Hypergraph
@Hypergraph Год назад
thre is this guy in LA called professor. lol
@westonfoster797
@westonfoster797 8 месяцев назад
Came back 10 months later to say that this video put Sengun on my radar, and this season I've been watching the guy cook. Long Live the YMCA King!
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis Год назад
I've always told people Sengun is the weirdest athlete in the league. Man goes from looking like Zach Randolph to Lauri Markkanen.
@elmehdinafia1237
@elmehdinafia1237 Год назад
Markkanen is a pure shooter while this guy can’t shoot a lick..
@DefendTheCode
@DefendTheCode Год назад
Never once on the court he resembles Lauri. They play soooo differently. This guy is basically a younger underdeveloped Sabonis.
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN Год назад
@@elmehdinafia1237 Lauri is so much more than a shooter. He is an athletic 7'er that can play 3-5. He is a good shooter, but he is also fully capable of creating his own shot. Dude can put the ball on the floor & attack the rim. When he gets there, he has the size & athleticism to do damage.
@nodefense
@nodefense Год назад
terrible comparisons lol
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis Год назад
@@DefendTheCode Lauri in terms of when he drives and just puts someone on a poster but then the next play jumps 8 inches off the ground
@lucasravazzani1441
@lucasravazzani1441 Год назад
Your video quality is absolutely unbelievable, I almost never comment on youtube but I figured you should know. Keep it up
@jonosono
@jonosono 9 месяцев назад
Can't wait to watch the updated video on this guy.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
The traditional post moves disappeared from the late 2000s to the late 2010s, but since the last two seasons, it's on the rise again : Embiid, Jokic, Vucevic, Ayton, Doncic, Sabonis, Nurkic, Valanciunas, Porzongis, Sengun, Davis, Giannis [etc.] are using it more and more. Even the mid-range game has returned with players like Doncic, Curry, Durant, Paul, DeRozan... Everything is cyclical.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@demondog20 Duncan started playing in the 1990s when post players were the norm. He was an exception, not the rule.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@demondog20 Refer to my first response. Follow the rule... for one Gasol, you had multiple examples proving my points. You won't sound smarter by adding exceptions to your rambling. Anyway. Pau started playing in 2001 (early 2000s). You should read my comment before commenting.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@demondog20 You never played basketball your entire life or what? You know what an exception is? When the NBA saw a decline in hook shots in the 1980s, Kareem was still playing...
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS Год назад
Man is an absolute master of the groundhook.
@MlLFS4L
@MlLFS4L Год назад
Title is crazy😭
@harrisontull8377
@harrisontull8377 Год назад
Alperen Sengun evolves into Domantas Sabonis who evolves into Nikola Jokic
@hobowithagun24
@hobowithagun24 Год назад
He’s going to innovate the game in ways Jokic did and many others that came before him, His moves may seem weird and unorthodox, but once he becomes a multi time all star you will see young guys trying to use his post moves and floater. Dirks fadeaway was unorthodox at the time, Kareem’s sky hook was unorthodox at the time, Manu Ginobli euro step was unorthodox at the time. Senguns floater is unorthodox at the time.
@perryrubin7781
@perryrubin7781 Год назад
stfu with this ridiculous hyperbole, it's an insult to the hall of famers you just named.
@hobowithagun24
@hobowithagun24 Год назад
@@perryrubin7781 😂😂. Sengun will be a hall of famer once he gets traded from the rockets and is able to thrive :) . I hope this triggers you more then my first statement because both of them will be true.
@perryrubin7781
@perryrubin7781 Год назад
​@@hobowithagun24 lol what are you nostradamus. You know i'm right dickhead. And the only thing that triggers me is the fact I have to live in a world where ignorant morons such as yourself exist, but maybe your third comment will trigger me more than your other two and then i'll be just so triggered I won't know what to do with myself. In fact, I'll be so triggered that the only remedy will be crying myself to sleep then afterwards shooting myself in the head. You're softer than charmin dude, you couldn't even trigger a redneck with a drag show. I've seen better comebacks in english from people that don't even speak english lol.
@sipsisina
@sipsisina Год назад
@@perryrubin7781 You definitely cried yourself to sleep that night
@perryrubin7781
@perryrubin7781 Год назад
@@sipsisina Actually, I cried myself to sleep then shot myself in the head learn how to read. I survived unfortunately if that wasn't already evident, and for the record I cry myself to sleep every night. Get your facts straight before you start commenting random stuff. Also, did my good friend Al offer you a blowjob to write that? If so, what are his rates? It's hard to find a good hooker in this day and age.
@notmarealnameboi
@notmarealnameboi Год назад
He's strong with good body control. Awesome video! Fun watch!
@dereklimwaikit6286
@dereklimwaikit6286 Год назад
I've like what I saw from him way back in the Summer league where, yes, hard to miss his whisper-to-the-ball free throw routine. Very very interesting big who have plenty of room to grow and it'd be exciting to see where he goes from here.
@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE
@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE Год назад
There is a lot of Joker mentioned here and I think thats unfair to Sengun, he is his own player and not a copycat of joker. Yes Sengun loves Joker and is a fan but his game is his game and its not that way because of Joker. I think Joker is being given far too much credit here. Passing big men are simply a big thing in Europe, and it was here for awhile too and its not because of Joker the great player that he is. For instance as a basketball fan of Sengun I know that he was first asked about Joker because people namely media keep bothering him about similarities in his game. Sengun said yes im a fan and now that has evolved into "Sengun only plays this way because of Joker". Like the skip pass you mentioned, Joker didn't invent that but you act as if he did and Sengun only could've gotten it from him lol Sabonis for instance had a dad that played in the same manner he does that skip pass too to assume this is just from Joker is beyond casual.
@thewayoflj9344
@thewayoflj9344 Год назад
"Bizarro Jokic" 😅 that is gold!
@slavajuri
@slavajuri Год назад
Super interesting player. The Sabonis and Jokic comparisons are obvious, but there are shades of Luke Walton and early-career Draymond Green (not on defence lol) as well. If he doesn't develop athletically or find a real jumpshot I think his career will sadly be cut short, but if he gets either of those down he certainly has a role. Been watching him since he was eligible for the draft, excited to see more! :)
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man Год назад
I know Jokic is pretty reserved and doesn’t really do too much outside of his normal routine, but I hope that he will let Sengun train with him at some point
@hub7077
@hub7077 Год назад
Bizarro Jokic is the best Sengun description I've ever heard
@joaopcoutinho
@joaopcoutinho Год назад
That’s the most hipster video of the season, and I love it I haven’t watched a single rockets game this year, and you gave me a reason to do so
@mudassirawad5533
@mudassirawad5533 Год назад
He is one of those players who will get traded to a contender and people will be amazed how good he actually is, when he's been doing these for years now like Aaron Gordon, Jreu Holiday or Jimmy Butler.
@bender4183
@bender4183 11 месяцев назад
Those players are all amazing defenders that were undefeated for not being offensive centerpieces tho
@johncarolina4950
@johncarolina4950 Год назад
The way Silas uses (or more like doesn't use) Sengun should get him fired. So talented
@ObnoxiousOtter8
@ObnoxiousOtter8 Год назад
Those clips of him running back made me cry oh my god he’s just amazing
@johnsondoeboy2772
@johnsondoeboy2772 Год назад
He needs to play with a defensive rim protecting 4 that can shoot the 3. He’d be EXCELLENT on the Grizzlies. Sixers should let Harden walk so the Rockets can sign him as the rumors suggest. Then Trade for Embiid with their assets. Reroute Sengun to a 3rd team (Grizzlies) etc…
@loren4800
@loren4800 Год назад
he actually reminds me more of Sabonis Senior.....but still a lot to evolve in that
@serdaryaman5670
@serdaryaman5670 Год назад
Thank you for recognizing him. Was hoping for you to make a video about him.
@introvart3394
@introvart3394 Год назад
He is so fun to watch
@BiggidyB
@BiggidyB Год назад
You sir have a beautifully described with humor this wondrous being. Thank you kindly for sharing your talent. Alperen seems like a class act, love the humility & kid-like love for the game. Edit: your chuckle makes me chuckle, spot on analysis!
@mehmeteminm
@mehmeteminm Год назад
My favorite basketball channel makes a video about our pride and favorite Al-p 🇹🇷 Ty for the quality content 🙋‍♂️
@serkanmutlu2840
@serkanmutlu2840 Год назад
He is the new superstar 👍👍👍
@emreyldz4324
@emreyldz4324 Год назад
One thing particularly wrong here Sengun has good arsenal of vertical jumping dunks and blocks. He also has coast to coast dunks.
@MilliJF
@MilliJF Год назад
1:40 fake the behind the back pass to no one just to mid the shot is hilarious 😅
@daniel_dumile
@daniel_dumile Год назад
This is my favourite Thinking Basketball video
@tylerjloce
@tylerjloce Год назад
I have never heard a more accurate way or comparison to describe Sengun's game
@MattStevens9824
@MattStevens9824 Год назад
Sengun is efficient! I love him even if he looks like an NBA2K My Player Creation that glitched.
@jeromemackey9683
@jeromemackey9683 Год назад
Quickly becoming one of my favorite RU-vid channels keep up the great work
@youngmelo1841
@youngmelo1841 Год назад
He needs to be paired up with a stretch 5 that can also protect the rim. Imagine him with Porzingis
@tharkas3077
@tharkas3077 10 месяцев назад
Wonderful analysis. 5:37 >> He said himself that he's confidently seeing everything in the field and this makes him sometimes lose critical time to decide because there are many possibilities. I believe his role changed this year, but as for his overall talents&skills(yet-to-master) This video tells a lot.
@markosixtynine
@markosixtynine Год назад
This might be my favorite vid of yours Ben. The lighter nature of this one was awesome
@ShaunTheNavigator
@ShaunTheNavigator Год назад
Glad we have Udoka as head coach, now. He'll know what to do with him.
@Eggmancan
@Eggmancan Год назад
Well if it's his performance come playoffs you're worried about, I've got some good news--
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 9 месяцев назад
This is by far the best thumbnail I've ever seen. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@willhooke
@willhooke Год назад
There's no school like old school!
@nocturne3677
@nocturne3677 10 месяцев назад
love how the two scariest things in the NBA are athletic americans and unathletic euros
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 Год назад
His ceiling is much closer to Sabonis than it is to Jokic
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan Год назад
Yeah true especially since he's so unathlethic and doesn't have the size to make up for it. I can see teams with elite guards feasting on him like Mavs Gsw and Grizzlies
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 Год назад
@zoulzopan5744 That's true, but I meant from a pure skill basketball ability. He's very good no doubt about it, but Jokic is otherworldly in that department.
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan Год назад
@@deelak2329 agreed seems like a good offensive engine to pair with like an elite shooting guard that can close the game. Maybe Jalen Green could be that guy
@kece1
@kece1 Год назад
He can be a more offensively dominant Domas
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