The Greco-Turkish War & The Turkish War Of Independence - First Phase 1919 I THE GREAT WAR 1920

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The Ottoman Empire was among the losing powers of World War 1 and left a power vacuum after the armistice of Mudros. The Great Powers had already made plans for the territory beforehand and now Greece had ambitions to take over the parts of Turkey where Greeks lived.
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@sotirissotergi 4 года назад

Comments: 5% *Nationalists* 10% *Other Comments* 85% *People Talking About Nationalists*

@scottleft3672 4 года назад

Keep your bland communist sentiments.

@benholroyd5221 4 года назад

So does your comment come under the 10% or the 85%?

@scottleft3672 4 года назад

@@benholroyd5221 Put you head in the pidgon hole and find out.

@Marinealver 4 года назад

Mad and Bad

@reeseman1932 4 года назад

Ben Holroyd this is that half of the 10% that complains about the people complaining about the nationalists

@elemperadordemexico 4 года назад

Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Mexican friend.

@charlesnorris9506 4 года назад

The only non toxic comment on this thread

@elemperadordemexico 4 года назад

@@charlesnorris9506 well I try not to be. :)

@adventurekarma 4 года назад

as a mexican i agree with a mexican Kaiser

@feylesof6029 4 года назад

@elemperadordemexico 4 года назад

@@adventurekarma thanks

@mckanow 3 года назад

-*ottoman empire is inactive* -*greece has joined the chat* -*mustafa kemal has joined the chat* -*greece has left the chat* -*ottoman empire has left the chat* -*mustafa kemal changed the server’s name to Turkey*

@mckanow 3 года назад

Basically 1918-1923 timeline

@NickariusSN 2 года назад

@@mckanow did you just answered to your own comment? And even liked it?

@mckanow 2 года назад

@@NickariusSN nah someone said something about a timeline and i replied he then deleted his comment probably

@NickariusSN 2 года назад

@@mckanow oh ok then lol

@Engineershafqat3017 2 года назад

Support Turkey from Kashmir

@yagzolmez3899 4 года назад

Just a note to fellow Greeks, who are reading this. I am a Turk, who has been to many parts of the world including Greece. I have never seen any other nation this similar to us. I've wished the things did not happen this way. We must learn from our history, BUT not to hate each other. Instead let us focus on our vast similarities rather than small differences and promote fraternity, so that those things never happen again.

@liteney 3 года назад

How can you be Greek if you are Turk? The Turks colonized the Greeks. You are colonizer of Greeks, Turk.

@angelind1sguise 3 года назад

@@liteney As a Greek Cypriot he was trying to be positive so why can’t you be?

@liteney 3 года назад

@@angelind1sguise Positive? He was attempting to down play the fact that Turks not only colonized Greeks but committed genocide against them.

@liteney 3 года назад

@@angelind1sguise You kill people, steal their land, than call yourself by their name? No...

@erdoganbicer3500 3 года назад

@@liteney it is utterly infantilistic when your army gets buttkicked and you cry 'gebocide'. We should have thrown your soldiers flowers rather than drowning them I guess. That's greek understanding how things work eh?

@alperenerol1852 4 года назад

Treaty of Sevres: I'm about to end this man's whole career. Mustafa Kemal: Hold my raki

@nicktzanakos2890 4 года назад

Well said...Kemal threw ma grandpa to the sea....thats war my Greek fellas...we won...and then we lost...no hard feelings..

@kubat552 4 года назад

@Chewbacca Tea was not popular during this era. Turkish coffee was popular and you can see ataturk drinking turkish coffee during battle of sakarya :D

@nuiaslou18 4 года назад

@Chewbacca He died because of alcohol so it wasn't a çay

@wizzya9966 4 года назад

@Caravanserai of Life you mean he was busy commiting a genocide.

@alperenerol1852 4 года назад

With all due respect, Ataturk was a heavy drinker. That is not to say he was alcoholic but due to his unending efforts to transform a nation. If I were him, I would've died of siroris well before the age of 57.

@creatoruser736 4 года назад

Ottoman Empire: We surrender! Turkey: Sike!

@paix4966 4 года назад

Siktir! 🇹🇷❤️

@nuiaslou18 4 года назад

It was an annexation of Anatolia and everybody know it so dont judge anyone.

@astrobullivant5908 4 года назад

@@nuiaslou18 It was justifiable. After all, the Turks had been trying to conquer Europe for centuries from Anatolia, and they were severely persecuting/exterminating the Christians there.

@mehmetalierguven8804 4 года назад

Keith Kevelson exterminating the Christians? You sure man ? You do know that when Turks invaded somewhere they would allow the people in that place to live their lives however they wanted right ? Their cultures,languages etc Turks wouldnt get involved in that they could live freely they wanted to keep their culture and language ? They could they didnt wanna do that ? They could do that too TLDR nah man Christians or anyone from any religion wasnt killed they could live however they wanted to live

@SamO-ik2cm 4 года назад

@@mehmetalierguven8804 nice propaganda

@Oklahomie_Friendly 4 года назад

As an Orthodox Christian I am overjoyed to see the comments section not full of hate and violence. I was reluctant to even look but I am glad I did, and to the Great war, wonderful video as always.

@extrahistory8956 3 года назад

03:30 The Allies' Eastern Question 06:45 The Greeks Come In 09:13 Trouble with the Italians 11:17 The Greeks Land at Smyrna 12:19 Administrative Restructuring of Izmir 14:00 Violence of Aydin 15:15 Introducing Mustafa Kemal Attaturk 16:49 Laying the Path for Liberation 19:40 The Allies Stall 21:31 The Izmir Investigative Reports 22:50 Greece Despaires, Turkey Grows in Strength 24:06 Turkish Nationalist Win the Parliament 24:25 Battling the French 24:44 Turkey 1, Allies 0

@xristar 4 года назад

"Wilson could think of nothing the people of the United States would be less inclined to accept than military responsibility in Asia"

@calc1657 4 года назад

If only that sentiment of the people had continued.

@coryhall7074 4 года назад

@@calc1657 It did. The government stopped listening.

@nathanbrown8680 4 года назад

Which is exactly why an American mandate would have been a solution if it had been possible.

@DeepseaSteve 4 года назад

Love the way the yanks show up late for the war, only actually having been involved in combat for about the last 6 months yet had the arrogance to make demands about who should rule what.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 года назад

@@DeepseaSteve When America kept the Allies afloat with supplies and most importantly, money long before 1917...

@brianoneil9662 4 года назад

And fortunately the Greeks and Turks never clashed again, held no grudges and became best mates.

@MrVibriocholerae 4 года назад

Hahah the irony is strong with this one

@jabezrbrain 4 года назад

Exactly!

@mirzahamzabaig5667 4 года назад

Yeah just like the Chinese and Taiwanese and India and Pakistan!

@jimmydaf525 4 года назад

@Gollum There are people on both sides who havent moved on.

@Konstantinos1404 4 года назад

@Gollum its actually the exact opposite though, you can see it from the anti Greek sentiment in Turkey.

@MiguelSchiavone 4 года назад

Hello to all Greeks and Turks from a Brazilian friend.

@arthurmorgan3287 4 года назад

Bless u brotha from TURKEY

@pinpon_masasi 3 года назад

Bedirhan Tigin Portekizce konuşuyorlar (Brezilya Portekizcesi)

@pinpon_masasi 3 года назад

Bilgilendireyim dedim

@MiguelSchiavone 3 года назад

@Bedirhan Tigin hey, how are u? And I speak Portuguese🙂

@dystopian2153 3 года назад

Hello greek American here!

@iminfinite3412 4 года назад

Last year I was in Jerusalem. And I was hiking on the mountains outside of Jerusalem, I remember seeing an ottoman barracks it was amazing. Just seeing how ancient it was and how it was set up all out of rocks and stones

@PointnShootMovies 2 года назад

I went through an ottoman fort in Greece and yeah, it’s surreal. Strange but also impressive how such an old empire lasted into the 20th century.

@Hypergraph 2 года назад

oh Jerusalem has so many meaning starting from summers, and has been a very popular place since then. i had tour guided those places it was absolute historical moment even though i am atheist

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

Support us and get 40% off Nebula: go.nebula.tv/the-great-war Watch 16 Days in Berlin on Nebula: nebula.tv/videos/16-days-in-berlin-01-prologue-the-beginning-of-the-end?ref=the-great-war

@JuanVilorio 4 года назад

Hey guys are you planning on doing a review/deep dive into explaining the movie 1917

@peacelives1875 4 года назад

@Mitch Paul no he is not

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

we are working on a 1917 review

@peacelives1875 4 года назад

@Mitch Paul sorry google is not a reliable source of history

@stephenhensley7004 4 года назад

Signed up for Curiosity Stream yesterday and have watched two programs already. I need a nudge to get over to Nebula. Searching for it on Curosity Stream is a no-go and using the same sign-in on Nebula doesn't work either. Thanks for the assist.

@glassman1130 4 года назад

Allies:Alright let's invade Turkey Atatürk: *Im about the end this man whole career*

@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 4 года назад

Wel,its starts all over again. With a nice Constantonople as victory. Turkey begs to be kicket out of,,Turkey

@asdadadsaasd 4 года назад

This man is Winston Churchill he said that

@m3t4l-thr36 4 года назад

@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv xD

@jkofte 2 года назад

@@mehmeteking not entirely wrong. churchill was the first lord of admiralty during dardanelles campaign and was held responsible of the failure. He resigned from the office in nov. 15 and joined the army. Ataturk was the hero of the land battles of dardanelles. also lloyd george lost power after chanak crisis in 1922 which occured after Ataturk forced british forces out of bosphorus and dardanelles. during the crisis churchill was secretary of state for colonies and was undergoing an operation of apendicitis. churchill, with lloyd george were the ones calling for the war in chanak crisis and they paid the price. after the crisis churchill stated that he was "without an office, without a seat, without a party, and without an appendix". so, Ataturk nearly ended his political career not once, but twice.

@jmdi2703 Год назад

Ataturk is a genius leader!

@denizthemenace2000 4 года назад

THE VIDEO ENDS WHEN THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE IS ABOUT TO START

@bruensal7182 4 года назад

Yeah, it will probably go on next year

@Nikonomicon 4 года назад

The video is called Greco-Turkish war, what do you expect?

@denizthemenace2000 4 года назад

@@Nikonomicon ITS TITLED GRECO-TURKISH WAR AND THE TURKISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE

@doompaul7315 3 года назад

@miltos 5 they pretend it was about independence, when it was just a war to maintain their grip in Anatolia and persecute minorities as they've always done. They respect no treaty, not Lausagne, nothing. Remember 1955 and 1974.

@apocrypha9620 3 года назад

@miltos 5 turks come here in 1071 after battle of manzikert turkish seljuks won the battle and conquer anatolia this lands just because the Greeks have been here for a long time than the Turks, they don't make this land

@Gogmosis 4 года назад

So glad to see you guys on nebula. Its a great platform and hope it helps the channel going forward.

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

we're very excited to be there

@run68bone 4 года назад

Thanks for making such great videos. I’ve been showing your stuff for the last my 6 years in my classroom. Y’all are great.

@sezginkna538 4 года назад

Thank you very much for your effort and labor. We learn about this period of history thoroughly in Turkey. But still, this was quite an interesting and informative episode for me. I hope you cover 1920-23 in an other episode soon.

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

Thank you, I appreciate that. We will do our best to cover the war as it develops in the coming years.

@vonzuchter 2 года назад

You dont learn anything in Turkey. You are in darkness basically. If any Turk tries to have a discussion with any history lover in the world it usually ends with denial.

@AntisocialSka1 3 года назад

Before covid we had gone on holiday to Greece twice each year, for 6 years. All we saw from Greek people was love and respect. All the best to Greece from Turkey.

@kossllan6144 2 года назад

Your government doesn't look at it like this.. bullying fake news and threatens war.. Why?

@balerion_58 2 года назад

@@kossllan6144 yes, there are a lot of problems between the two countries, but you don't need to see us as a bogeyman.

@williamdavis9562 2 года назад

@@kossllan6144 You seem to have a very warped view on what is happening between these two nations. If you keep poking someone in the eye, they will react. So the real question is why Greece feels it is in their strategic interest to poke their larger neighbor in the eye, what are they hoping to achieve aside from causing a reaction?

@kossllan6144 2 года назад

@@williamdavis9562 exactly that's the call bullying.. and don't look more than you are.. maybe you are Goliath but remember I am the David.??!!. so don't pock my eyes and kick my legs.. Agean sea is Greek.. if you touch Greece you will be Dust in the water. Got it?

@throckmorton4673 2 года назад

@@williamdavis9562 Like how the Turkish air force keeps violating Greek and Cypriot territorial waters and airspace? And openly, from their own government, calling for the annexation of Greek islands to Turkey amidst all this?

@eymen4409 2 года назад

"Peace at home peace in the world" -Commander-in-Chief Veteran Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK We didn't say we didn't know how to fight, we said we didn't want war🤗

@bentspoon6218 2 года назад

Ataturk said, 'I should have killed all the Greeks. I regretted leaving even one Greek alive'. He was just a cold blooded butcher.

@batsukan5934 2 года назад

@@bentspoon6218 yeah right lol. Any source?

@batsukan5934 2 года назад

@@bentspoon6218 He was known as a Pacifist and non nationalist by everyone he was not your default ultra nationalist guy. he was more like an unifier type nationalist. How could he say a thing like that? Also ataturk was from Thessaloniki i cant imagine him saying "i should have killed all the people from my birthplace." Lmao

@bentspoon6218 2 года назад

@@batsukan5934 There are people still alive to whom he said that. He wanted do exterminate EVERY Greek in Turkey, and yes, he DID say exactly that. He may have been born in Greece, but he hated the Greeks with all his barbaric soul.

@ufukfettahgurbuz1699 2 года назад

@@bentspoon6218 how do you know it is true which site do you search it

@YingYang6996TR 4 года назад

*Greetings and Much Love From Turkey To Greece* 🇹🇷❤🇬🇷

@muratkazc9998 4 года назад

@koksal ceylan i hope this comment is joke . Otherwise it is too sad for the earth that you still produce carbon dioxide. What a shame for Turkish Nation

@ddv1863 4 года назад

koksal ceylan 😂😂😂 idiot barbarian on horseback😂😂😂

@YingYang6996TR 4 года назад

@koksal ceylan savaşı zaten onlar kaybetti :) İşin keyfini biz çıkarıyoruz bırakın dostsansınlar

@kodadiSiyah94 4 года назад

Zoruna gidenin borusuna gitsin Sonuna kadar barbariz ulan kasinanin anasini sikeriz

@Pantheo36 4 года назад

Same to you my friend!

@mattgraham9515 4 года назад

this was amazing - so interesting. When can you see part two?

@davethompson3326 4 года назад

Clear, Concise, Correct and well delivered

@user-vz2nv5zu5r 4 года назад

Very interesting! So eager for the next episode.

@hlynnkeith9334 4 года назад

Kudos, Jesse Alexander! With each episode, I like you more and more.

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

Thanks!

@brostelio 4 года назад

This video is written astoundingly well. A very difficult, multi-layered subject to handle in such a short lesson, which these guys have done excellently. Obviously now subscribed.

@erniemanzo3145 4 года назад

Amazing episode. Very well presented

@beth5633 4 года назад

great channel, great videos, thank you!

@jay8656 4 года назад

The great war did not end in 1918 it ended in 1945. The interwar years were a intermission.

@kevinconrad6156 4 года назад

More like the incoherent and disorganized 2nd act of a 3 act show.

@karlisulmanis3810 4 года назад

The Great War didn't end until 1991, though most of the time was spent pointing big shooty explodey thingies at the enemy, either the west or east, depending on your side..

@karlisulmanis3810 4 года назад

@chris jones yes, you are correct, from thisbpoint on, the war on terror and the war on drugs are both now an official extension of the great war

@randomgamer3964 4 года назад

Well then the Great War lasts forever

@wmascolin 4 года назад

@@randomgamer3964 yaaaaaaaaaay were fucked

@SaraWilsonBasturk 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this well researched and balanced content. I am always on the lookout for non-jingoistic, digestible, English-language content on this subject and it is hard to come by.

@lilmory1000 Год назад

No doubt the best video on this specific topic. Great work!

@earlycuyler8719 3 года назад

My great grandfather ,Pete Christophus, came here to America in the early 1920s as a stowaway on a trade ship. I didn't know about this history until today. I now understand what he was going through.

@beickus 2 года назад

watch the film America America by Elia Kazan

@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 года назад

*Count Dooku voice* I've been looking forward to this

@luxembourgishempire2826 4 года назад

Lol

@jmbrosendo 4 года назад

My favourite channel. Two thumbs up on a hallmark video. You managed to condense so much information on a less known part of the World War and yet explain so much.

@kristjanrom9429 2 года назад

This is truly incredible work!

@kevincocking8561 Год назад

always well research and presented very well love this channel keep going

@Ivan_Mikhaylov 2 года назад

Love both Turkey and Greece, peace brothers! from Russia!!

@caner2779 2 года назад

Tamam 🇹🇷🥰

@theodoruspantelides8661 2 года назад

@@caner2779 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

@musauzel2612 Год назад

Конечно

@omerfarukbykl6097 4 года назад

That is not War of Independence it is *"War of National Liberation"* Cause to be a war of independence, Turkish people must have been colonized and lost it's government. But it is not like that. *War of National Liberation* Please correct the title, Almost all English sources about this writes it wrong.

@denizdemir5457 4 года назад

@Ömer Faruk Bıyıklı ESG Den geldiğimizi belli edelim. adgsdggdsd

@omerfarukbykl6097 4 года назад

@@denizdemir5457 aynen

@omerfarukbykl6097 4 года назад

yorumu görenler, ne kadar beğeni olursa üste çıkar; o kadar fazla kişi görür belki onlar da beğenir siz de buna benzer yorumlardan atabilirsiniz ayrıca

@Vaelar2007 4 года назад

National liberation more like second conquest the Turks after all came from Mongolia and turkey was known as Anatolia until Turkish exploitation of Byzantine weakness after decades of exhausting war this is just another conquest

@yagzefedemirel3934 4 года назад

Osmanlı'dan ayrılarak yeni bir devlet kurduğumuz için bağımsızlık savaşı deniyor.

@erkuterkut1971 3 года назад

In Turkey, we do not call it "War of Independence" as we were independent at that time. We call it "War of Survival"

@codespher3128 3 года назад

More like liberation.

@Geckotr 3 года назад

orjinal ismi "İstiklal harbi" istiklal bağımsızlık demek. Bana göre bu ismin verilmesinin sebebi de Türk halkının Osmanlı hanedanının boyunduruğundan çıkıp, bağımsız bir cumhuriyet kurulması. Bu arada Kurtuluş'un birebir İngilizce karşılığı "salvation"'dır tabi burda kurtuluşu hangi bağlamda kullandığına göre farklı bir kelime de kullanılabilir. Yabancı kaynaklarda Kurtuluş Savaşı, "Greco-Turkish war" olarak geçer

@henryaybaz7409 2 года назад

@@Geckotr Cidadi Milli, yeni adiyla milli mucadele.

@anwarshafee6403 4 года назад

Top-quality content!

@robertfoster3438 4 года назад

And the greatest youtube history channel thrown up since pericles!

@billslocum9819 4 года назад

I thought Pericles was more of a Twitter guy.

@kingrednax6000 4 года назад

i dont know why everyone hates on greek and turkish nationalists fighting, i say let it continue, it's very entertaining

@kubilaykara3167 4 года назад

we have a saying here: "this could have been considered as an entertaining country if we were not living in it."

@kingrednax6000 4 года назад

@pēdro ' cool story bro but as a person living on a small island on the other side of the continent it is very entertaining to watch

@darthsidious4894 4 года назад

@SLUTSUKKI َ Yeah cause the truth hurts

@ses4068 Год назад

Oh, I am sure they had their popcorn time while you were dealing with Ireland. And guess what? It's coming back, soon after Scotland's independence. Ireland is the gift of the Ottomans to your kind.

@panicon2 4 года назад

Wonderful job! Thank you!

@johnnykanogear5607 4 года назад

We love you thanks for great "great war" videos

@wolf_b0i981 4 года назад

Brilliant as always. I never thought I would enjoy another channel presenter as much as Indy but Jesse is first class.

@DoraFauszt 4 года назад

Yes, Indy set the bar high, but Jesse managed to raise it even higher!

@JobberBud 4 года назад

I could listen to Jesse read a phonebook. Fortunately this channel didn't go the audio phonebook route and instead chose to provide us with invaluable and amazing lessons on *our* history.

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

We could always branch out into phonebook-based ASMR...

@GreenMarkoulis13 4 года назад

Adding Greek and Turkish subtitles would be really helpful, thank you

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

someone has to do them.

@steventcunliffe 4 года назад

Great history video!

@weltvonalex 4 года назад

Outstanding work, you guys are so amazing and how you keep the quality on such a high level, I am happy that I support you, money well spent!

@patrickmcglonejr8163 4 года назад

Man I love this channel! Jessie brings a "enthusiastic" air to it.

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

Thanks!

@burakcem8524 2 года назад

Greeks, Italians, French, English, Australian, Anzacs... it shows how my nation tried so hard to get his independence, I felt honor always. But today everytime I look to Greeks we look like same, eat same food, same alcohol, we dance same... We are not enemies, we are same but different religion. Always brothers loves from turkey

@jmdi2703 Год назад

Yeah

@ses4068 Год назад

You should study the anthem of the greeks, not everything is what it looks from the outside.

@burakcem8524 Год назад

@@ses4068 500years of occupation Im not expecting greeks to be happy with us but Im %100 sure we did not corrupt their culture religion or something because if Ottamans had an intention to pressure greeks we could do with ease.

@Crosmando 4 года назад

And sadly enough there are still Greeks who believe in the Megali Idea and Turks who want to revive the Ottoman Empire.

@oboi650 3 года назад

Most of them are 11 years old. Because it's social media, the numbers seem a lot, but it's not. Neither the people of Greece nor the Turkish people want war and not hate each other. Such videos also serve as provocative.

@williamdavis9562 3 года назад

@@oboi650 You'd be surprised what percentage of the population in both nations are thinking war with their neighbor is a great idea. Most nations have their fair share of idiots. Look at your youtube name for god's sake. America won't be spared this fate either.

@oboi650 3 года назад

@@williamdavis9562 what are you talking about?As long as you're hostile to us, we'll do the same.

@theunholycrusader517 3 года назад

And sadly enough there are still turks who hate greece for no reason

@theunholycrusader517 3 года назад

@@oboi650 who are yoi talking about?

@emircanayyldz7814 4 года назад

Wait... Where is the rest of this, where is the actual war of independence?

@onlinekurtu 4 года назад

bölüm bölüm yapıyolar hocam

@emircanayyldz7814 4 года назад

@@onlinekurtu anladım teşekkürler, devamını bekliyoruz o zaman.

@Oxtocoatl13 4 года назад

They follow the events month by month, so they'll be talking about the great battles in 1921 and 1922 in 2021 and 2022. They don't jump ahead. If you want to see the whole war discussed, Between 2 Wars did an excellent episode covering the whole war and it's aftermath.

@thedoomslayer4167 4 года назад

Damn we gained our indipendence with great struggle, no clothes, no food, no men, no ammo but we had great leaders, the soul and the traditional national code: live free or die. Surely the war didn't show mercy to anyone. I greatly respect every Greek and Turk who fell and fought in the war. ✌🏻PEACE✌🏻 Edit: The guy who fired the first bullet was a journalist called "Hasan Tahsin"

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

It is not known if it was indeed Hasan Tahsin. The Inter-allied Commission could not conclude who fired first and from where. Andrew Mango in "Ataturk" also notes that while their is a claim Hasan Tahsin fired first, it is not iron-clad.

@carljohnson3319 4 года назад

@@konstantinostravlos210 hasan Tahsin is the guy Who first shoot the greeks in izmir and in anatolia

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

Based on what primary source? The Interallied Committee report does not say who shot first, just that shots were fired from the barracks. Neither do Greek arny reports name a specific individual. Contemporary newspapers do not name him. Only much later sources. I.e those who did the "police work" after the events did not locate a specific first shooter.

@carljohnson3319 4 года назад

@@konstantinostravlos210 it writes in the Turkish sources

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

@@carljohnson3319 based on which primary sources? Which newspaper articles? Internal reports? That is the problem with the Hasan Tahsin story. I have read those Turkish sources. It is based on some member of the local organisations claiming so, but there are no outside sources (contemporaneous articles in newspapers i.e) noting it so. The 2/39 Regiment after action report, i.e primary source, does not refer to any individual opening fire, but to fire coming from the barracks. A book writing something is not enough. They have to go back to the primary sources, and there the info is very little. It may very well be that Hasan Tahsin fired the first shot (if he was in the barracks from were the Greek after action report noted the shots coming), it may very well be no.

@hakan341 3 года назад

Turks can be proud. They fought imperialists and proclaimed the Turkish Republic and be came really independent.

@eofter2677 3 года назад

It's not imperialism when you try to free the local from the foreigners rule

@attalus5610 3 года назад

@@eofter2677 Western anatolia was turkish majority. How is it freeing?

@nickolasgaspar9660 3 года назад

@@eofter2677 that is always the excuse, not the actual goal. Elistists don't give a nut about people mate. They use them as lubricants for their engine.

@nickolasgaspar9660 3 года назад

@@attalus5610 This is the excuse we are taught in Greek Schools mate. A euphemism for offensive wars. Nation States use minorities as an excuse to attack an other country. Greece did it to Turkey, Turkey did it do Cyprus etc. Kosovo is on the menu...too The excuse is "History" and "Minorities" when the goal is always economics.

@charleslarrenshell6469 2 года назад

They fought imperialists after they were imperialists that lost and genocided a ton of people

@Paul020253 3 года назад

One of the best introductions to the build up of the 1923 Exchange of Populations I have come across, thank you.

@s.31.l50 4 года назад

Can’t wait for soviet-polish war videos which I assume will be coming in the next few months

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

yes!

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

Glad to finally see this!

@VladTevez 4 года назад

👍👍

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

that said, that is not Damat Ferit Pasha.

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

and Metaxas not Metahas Jessie! Also context for that quote, it was done in 1914, when Venizelos and Metaxas were working together. In 1920 Metaxas is in exile as one of the main Constantinist factors in Greek politics.

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

@@konstantinostravlos210 I'll have to brush up on my Greek names I guess!

@alperenoz1863 4 года назад

@@jessealexander2695 I'm not sure about Greeks but have to say you nailed Turkish pronunciations except one small mistake: the city of Sivas, it's not "shivash" just "Sivas" with regular "s". Overall, once again, great video from you guys!

@Brianfromcork1 3 месяца назад

This is an absolutely excellent video

@Janggutan 4 года назад

this video is great and it increase my understanding of the situation at that time...thank you. hope to see more from u guys....

@ahmetgunes4095 4 года назад

Due to traditional hostilities between Greeks and Turks, this topic is a difficult one to tell. And your two advisors seem to have at least Greek roots if not citizens of Greece. Still, as a Turk I did not feel insulted and found the video objective when I watched the video. I even had the joy of learning new things. I must make a point though. I am not a historian. I am reading and watching history as a hobby. Hence, my opinion may not be important :)

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

Thanks for your comment, Ahmet. Dr. Travlos is Greek but works in Turkey and, most importantly, is a professional academic. In any case, I did the research and writing, and he gave some advice only, so the responsibility for the episode is mine. I am glad that you liked it, and my efforts at providing a balanced view of the war up until February 1920 were visible!

@leosword7142 4 года назад

@@jessealexander2695 I also enjoyed it. Very thorough and concise. And BALANCED!

@O_Tade 4 года назад

Everyone's opinion is important ! Greetings from Greece.

@ChillakoC92 4 года назад

The truth is both sides made mistakes against one another on that campaign.We did so many horrible things to each other, imagine what we could have achieved if united. Peace from Greece and stay away from the fanatics.

@MarkhasSteelfort 4 года назад

@@jessealexander2695 Dr. Travlos is a great friend of mine, we always play historical wargames and he is a great, fun guy.

@95bekirable 4 года назад

Side note: We do not call the name of the war "War of Independence" but "War of Liberation". This name is also most fitting since Turkey has always been independent.

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

Who is you? Because Fahri Belen calls it Kuturlus Savasi, but Cevdet Kerim İncedayı calls it Istikal Harbi. Considering Incedayi wrote the first one volume military history of the war in Turkish, here is the first military historian of the war using a term you claim no one uses (by the way Incedayi actually fought in the war)

@95bekirable 4 года назад

@@konstantinostravlos210 But that's the name we use today, Kurtuluş means Liberation.

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

@@95bekirable sure, but considering I gave them Incedayi and Belen as sources, they used the term those used (I mean they both actually fought in the war)

@95bekirable 4 года назад

@@konstantinostravlos210 Which name do you think is the most fitting?

@konstantinostravlos210 4 года назад

@@95bekirable for the Turkish perspective or for the whole interrelated story. For Turkish I think War of National Formation is good. It points out that the war was not just about independence, but also forming a new nation. But in general I would call all of the wars of 1919-1923 as Wars of Anatolian Succession. They were interrelated but not per se one thing (there was no coordination between the Greek, Armenian and French war efforts). In this sense it is similar to the wars that resulted form the fall of the Russian Empire. Do you treat the Polish-Soviet War as part of the Russian Civil War, or as a distinct conflict?

@GaryCSchade 2 года назад

Absolutely outstanding 👏🏼

@vinm300 2 года назад

15:25 "Ottoman general Mustaf Kemal" (Ataturk) He had actually resigned his commission. (He had been outlawed by the Sultan) It was a brave move, and he wondered whether the troops would continue to obey him in civilian clothes. 1920 16 march occupation of Constantinople by allies 11 may Kemal condemned to death by sultan's government 22 June Greek army advances into Anatolia 1921 6-10 Jan Greek advance checked at battle of Ionunu P.S. this is not a criticism, just additional info. This series is a fantastic overview of the Great War

@BringBacktheGreeks 4 года назад

Since both my grandfathers fought in that war, I have studied it extensively, and I must admit, that your information and Analysis is Second to None. I actually double checked your facts, and they are to the point, even the pronunciation of Greek names is correct(something quite difficult for a non Greek speaker) , Just a tiny detail. Metaxas is pronounced METAKSAS, not MetaHas. My Congratulations SIR ! PS: I love the cherry on top, "the Greatest RU-vid history channel thrown up since Pericles". You definitely melted ALL Greek hearts !

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

thank you very much

@azamkhan1526 4 года назад

so ur RIP grandfathers lost the war to Turks🇹🇷😁

@tahakol2402 4 года назад

@@azamkhan1526 You are a shame for the Turkish State...

@azamkhan1526 4 года назад

@@tahakol2402 bro im not a Turk

@tahakol2402 4 года назад

@@azamkhan1526 where are you from mate?

@Mathwayb 4 года назад

What a mess.

@Marinealver 4 года назад

Mad and bad

@ggoddkkiller1342 4 года назад

Mess?? This is just the calm before the storm!! Due soon after the Greek army started marching towards east, hundreds of kms deep inside Turkish majority Anatolia and Turkish revolutionaries started attacking every foreign force from the French to Brits and Greeks expect Italians alone who acted smart and left the chat peacefully :))

@berkkutaygokmen5827 4 года назад

Caused by the West

@nomineterrameareligionis4021 4 года назад

@@ggoddkkiller1342 I didnt understood your text, are you speaking about a future or the past?

@canbayar8382 4 года назад

@@nomineterrameareligionis4021 Past. This video is only the beginning of the war of independence and still a lot of important information is missing(one example: Kazım Karabekir Pasha(one of the most important general in ottoman at those days) sent to arrest the Mustafa Kemal Pasha with his army by ottoman government but then join his side. But in the video they just say he join to the Kemal Pasha's side. Which I found this important to understand the situation.) And the person who open fire to greek forces is the Osman Nevres as known as Hasan Tahsin(writer, jornalist) was the national symbol. How can they say it was unkown(you can litteraly find this information by googling* the "who open the first fire to greek army at Turkey's War of Independence" or short version of this ). P.s: No disrespect for the work they have done to create this video of course.

@prakashghumaliya2002 3 года назад

Thank you for video sir

@atakandemirel9309 Год назад

I was born in Turkey and now I am 30 years old. But I have not come across a history teacher who explains history as clearly and descriptively as you do. Thanks

@karamigfer Год назад

İyi yalıyorsun yabancıları

@kaiserkhan9832 27 дней назад

RU-vidta cok zaman gecirmis insanim, resmi tarih bu anlatilanlardan cok daha duzgun. RU-vidda bolucusu fln her turlu anlatan var@@karamigfer

@partizan5876 4 года назад

As a Turkish i dont want to see greeks and turks fight in comments come on we were great friends before we could be again

@biliminsrlar5752 4 года назад

Same.

@iniohos2 4 года назад

pay our debt and we ll be friends again

@user-nk3su1wf5l 4 года назад

@Talûn-karkû The Warchief you need a lot of history lessons m8. until the empire grew weak at its last stages, this corner of eurasia used to be the civilized one, where people of many different religions (at least three come to mind) could make a society function properly. In case you haven't noticed, not all Turks are of Mongolian descent, many decided to adopt a turkish identity so that they would not have to become refugees in a nationalistic Greece, who would not tolerate Muslim Greeks (still does not). We share eating and drinking habits, work ethos and ethics. We even prefer the same sports. And, at the time, we used to speak each other's language. Children at the villages used to grow up together. So, I think you got the answer you were seeking.

@FurkanCemTurfanda 4 года назад

@@user-nk3su1wf5l Well said. Turks from Turkey today have as much in common with Greeks as we do with Eurasian Turkic nations.

@Michael_the_Drunkard 4 года назад

Sure we can, give eastern thrace to greece (which was never reconquered, only ceded) and she will be best friends with turkey.

@goshlike76 3 года назад

Honestly, as a Greek, I'd blame my fellow countrymen for managing to divide the nation even at its darkest hours. And most of all, those damn royalists who didn't see beyond their family getting settled in a ministry or something else. Venizelos, was the pioneer of modern Greece. Certainly not like what Mustafa Kemal Pasha was for the Turks; that role belongs to Alexander Ypsilantes 100 years prior. But he actually believed and worked for a modern Greece, back in the hardest times of modern history. I'd never blame the Turks for their war of Independence, but I'd blame the Greek royalists who were unable to see the truth. If Venizelos was elected in 1919, things would be vastly different in the area and EVEN if Greece didn't manage to hold Smyrna, at least there wouldn't be so many pointless death.

@lunacgm2490 3 года назад

I like the way how you look at the history! Respects man!

@mydogsbutler 2 года назад

Let me guess... leftist? Leftist "Greeks" are always blaming Greeks for antihellenism in other countries. They have long long history of treason. If leftist were around during the Greek revolution they would have fought for the Ottomans.

@antihadith4131 2 года назад

@@mydogsbutler You see not all Greeks are haters and some have common sense unlike you.

@Manouil_III 2 года назад

@@mydogsbutler he condemned royalists for their policy that led to pointless deaths; You felt offended citing filthy McCarthyist propaganda of the past. A shameful display on your behalf, of course. Nothing to surprise, since fellow of yours, royalists' correspondence of the time is filled with racist, derogatory, and felonious rhetoric towards the population that suffered... another shameful display. Also, mentioned Venizelos wasn't even a leftist, he was centrist. Get a clue of your ability to judge others.

@mydogsbutler 2 года назад

@@Manouil_III Did you do lots of drugs as a kid? I said nothing "racist" you slanderous troll. Greeks suffered for centuries under Turkish occupation. As did many other peoples that were treated as second class citizen under the Ottomans. You seem to have "forgotten" that little part in your narrative you anti-hellenic leftist bigot.

@aggelosn.6846 2 года назад

Beautiful documentary

@umjackd 4 года назад

Are you guys on Nebula now? I tried a casual search on there and couldn't find you. Happy to hear you found a supportive platform! Edit: Woop, just found you by searching for video titles rather than the channel title. Not sure if that's a problem you need to address.

@TheGreatWar 4 года назад

Yes. We're really happy to be new on Nebula and still in the Setting Up Process. But really excited. But thanks for letting us now. Will have a look.

@hebl47 4 года назад

*grabs popcorn* This comment section should be interesting...

@ahmetserdarunal8229 4 года назад

@mr_ anheuser Comes to reclaim the lands that was lost a thousand years ago. Also says Turks commited crimes.

@MrVibriocholerae 4 года назад

@@ahmetserdarunal8229 go cry somewhere else. Maybe swim over to greece for safety? Your countrys crackhead leader is going to war against the whole world

@bosanskirambo4066 4 года назад

@@MrVibriocholerae is that why u guys in in debt?

@bosanskirambo4066 4 года назад

@mr_ anheuser im not Turkish i just support them

@bosanskirambo4066 4 года назад

@mr_ anheuser also turkeys GDP is 4x higher then greece

@mediocresultan5610 Год назад

It is strikingly shocking how todays Greeks do not get how todays world is shaped and claiming some lands their forefathers conquered in the antiquity and then lost to other nations a thousand years ago and never forget to mention if they are really the descendants of Hellenes indeed, it is really stupid , especially considering the small population they have , what are those people living in Greece going to do with İstanbul,İzmir or other towns of other countries, İstanbul itself has double the population of whole Greece today

@samuelp7116 4 года назад

Very interesting!

@yetim97 4 года назад

We want part 2!

@tkmmkt6569 4 года назад

Amazing to think the impact the Great War had beyond its actual timeframe. All of our history has been shaped by it.

@JewishMcFly-pg3mc 3 года назад

Thats the thing about history man it just keeps going. People could say all it started falling after the seven years war too the napoleonic wars and Balkans definitely

@DoctorDeath147 Год назад

@@JewishMcFly-pg3mc if Caesar hadn't crossed that river, WW1 would never have happened. Damn Caesar

@turkoboy9394 4 года назад

🇹🇷🇹🇷 Her Türk ,Asker Doğar 🇹🇷🇹🇷

@Sierra0Maestra 2 года назад

Yoo

@ucube16 Год назад

@@Sierra0Maestra komunist burak

@mka1067 Год назад

@@Sierra0Maestradoğru her türk asker doğar

@davidd.c.9344 Год назад

Born a Roach you mean.

@sefamethazine Год назад

mal

@sibelshinaishin182 3 года назад

I must correct a huge error: Mustafa Kemal was sent to Samsun by the Sultan ( Vanidettin) with the order of the British authorities to control some unruly residents of the region who were giving “hard time”to the Christians. So he went to Samsun to control the area. Neither the Sultan nor the occupiers were aware of his real intentions. You gave the impression that he was openly organizing resistence. .

@tanertavlan1769 Год назад

M, Kemal went to meet Russian Generals to have weapons agreement from Russian Government ..That is how ,he won the war.. Russians wanted exchange of guns deal. They wanted , Turks to be in their side as communist regime. And M.Kemal said ..One thing at at a time,, Will talk later said.. and story goes on.,,

@abdullahozkul9977 Год назад

“Savunma hattı yoktur, savunma sathı vardır. O satıh bütün vatandır. Vatanın her karış toprağı vatandaşın kanıyla ıslanmadıkça terk olunamaz.” -Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK

@karamigfer Год назад

Rakı içerken güzel söz

@batuhankays4244 7 месяцев назад

@@karamigferankaranın eteklerinde o emir ile yapilan savunma ile ananın namusu kurtulmuş diyeceğimde seninki pek kurtulamamiş gibi cahil oe seni

@kutay9854 4 года назад

I hope this video has a second part because it has litterally so little info about the Turkish War Of Independence. Video ends right around time time it starts.

@MikhalisBramouell 4 года назад

Like a preamble, major injustice to the history of the conflict to omit so much.

@canyilmaz6129 4 года назад

Gerisi önümüzdeki yıl gelicek büyük ihtimale

@denizthemenace2000 4 года назад

Kutay EXACTLY

@How23497 4 года назад

Most likely does

@gabk4583 4 года назад

As a Pontic Greek who's great grandfather was deported, during the Greek - Turkish population exchange into northern Greece, I don't hate Turks. I have Turkish friends irl in the country I live (neither turkey or Greece, or cyrpus).

@zuzudernegger9721 4 года назад

Mother is a Turk, father is a Greek and I am a Russian (what Russians of the North say about the Russians of the South). Is that you?

@zuzudernegger9721 4 года назад

@Deniz They needed the population to colonize Thrace and Macedonia.

@KadirAksu28 4 года назад

As a Turk from the Ponuts area originally, I greet you bro.

@gabk4583 4 года назад

@@KadirAksu28 :D peace be upon you bro.

@AlGangstaVlore 4 года назад

As a Cham Albanian prom Epirus I hate neither Greeks nor Turks. Somehow we all have the same temperament and we are very welcoming. Politicians fight for power, people pay the price.

@MellorDR 2 года назад

in 3o min you have done an outstanding job , and one is even more in awe of Ataturk

@pol5561 4 года назад

Nice and informative about our beloved... Allies,keep up guys nice one.

@md.shariqulreedoy5096 4 года назад

The Turks fought simultaneously against the French, the Greeks, the Italians and the British.

@plethondimos576 4 года назад

Real talk arkadas: French, Italians and British first betrayed you and then us. The Turks fought mainly against the Greeks.

@batuhangocer6642 4 года назад

Actually we didn’t fought with British. They were scared because of Gallipoli.

@johnroche7541 4 года назад

Turks did not fight against the British during this conflict but nearly did as a result of the Channak Crisis. Check out the fantastic Turkish TV series "Kurtulous" about the Greco-Turkish War.

@johnroche7541 4 года назад

@fot geo Thank you for that. Is this Greek TV series available on DVD with English subtitles?

@biliminsrlar5752 4 года назад

@@johnroche7541 British made monarchist rebellions and supplied Greeks but didn't directly fight.

@thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад

What I’m hearing is that the Allies loved the Greek PM because they loved the Percy Jackson books. That’s like if the allies gave Hirohito a pass simply because they thought Tokugawa was pretty lit.

@davethompson3326 4 года назад

They had probably all studied Classics at University @_@

@O_Tade 4 года назад

As a Greek I will clear why Allies liked Greek PM (Eleftherios Venizelos). In WW1 Greece was divided between the King (who was in German's side) and the Greek PM (who was in Allies side). Furthermore, Greek King gave up and Greek PM joined Entente in WW1. After WW1, in 1919 Greece helped in thd invasion of Crimea to topple USSR. This is why Entente and Venizelos had so positive relationship. I hope I helped :)

@thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад

Ο Ταδε It did help, actually. Thanks.

@O_Tade 4 года назад

@@thevoidlookspretty7079 your welcome

@onurgunes5839 3 года назад

cete (in turkish words çete) means gang only. it was called as kuvai milliye, meaning force of nation

@Adhdand92 Год назад

Bunlarin bahsettigi zeybek gruplar sanirim .

@captainzorikh 4 года назад

Watching a "Dr. Squatch" soap commercial in the middle of war history is...perfect.

@olbradley 4 года назад

This is the third or fourth time i've subscribed to this channel. And I haven't unsubscribed a single time, I think RU-vid is doing it's little subtle censorship again where it delays notifications and doesn't recommend videos. This time it looks like their straight up unsubscribing users without their knowledge.

@polyglot8 3 года назад

At 8:10 the quote uses the word "insupportable". This is a very common word in French and probably betrays the fact that the original quote was in French, a language widely used in diplomacy at that time. Although the word exists in English; the French "insupportable" would be more commonly translated into English as "intolerable".

@meenki347 4 года назад

I didn't realize Peracles had a RU-vid history channel. But thanks for teaching me something, I never even suspected before.

@johnmacleod2487 3 года назад

RU-vid took him down. His hate-speech and incitement to violence against the Spartans violated their Terms

@alivural2057 4 года назад

I wish you uploaded this video after a video where you talked about the treaty of Sevres because, generally, it can be said that the treaty of Sevres causes The Turkish war of Independence.

@sciote5613 4 года назад

I was expecting more illustrations on the war itself ( strategies, manuveurs, etc..) between 1920-1923 !!!

@jessealexander2695 4 года назад

This episode takes us up to January/February 1920, 100 years ago. That's the concept for the channel.

@Oxtocoatl13 4 года назад

It's this region that most clearly defies the traditional notion that world war one was fought 1914-1918. If you were an Ottoman subject of fighting age, you would have been at war almost continuously from 1911 to 1923. 12 years as opposed to four. Balkan troops faced a similar situation, with Greece going to war in 1912, 1913 and again in 1916/17 (depends whether you count the quasi-civil war between supporters of king Constantine and Venizelos). Imagine being at war for 12 years. How does one come back to a peaceful life after that?

@sevketyuyucu8594 4 года назад

For us Turks it was a longer war of almost 50 years of no peace !! (Starting w. Turkish-Russian war, uprisings in Balkans, Balkan War, WW1 and the final war w. Greece and other Occupants of Anatolia until 1922.

@archaeaoris900 4 года назад

Actually it was worse than that since the wars in Balkans have started from Balkan Wars (1912-1913), if you also count the battles between mostly Bulgarian and Greek troops and in lesser degree Ottoman troops in Macedonia which ended in 1908 then they fought for even longer, and for the Greeks and Turks didn't end until the 1923 peace treaty.

@borisborski1876 Год назад

Thanks!

@Skoldpaddashell Год назад

I learned something from an old Anishinaabe speaker about how you can still feel pain from the generations before you. (I’m paraphrasing here) but it’s an important reminder to acknowledge that your future now includes those who you may blame for the pain are intertwined. Maintaining respect and fraternity is the best way to go.

@mikep3180 4 года назад

Very interesting video as always, wish they showed us videos like these in school, unfortunately the curriculum doesn't cover these events , can you do a video on interwar period Japan?

@sunriseee2170 Год назад

Eğitim sistemi emperyalistlerin elinde

@shaunzaarrae3727 Год назад

Bro it’s cus kids can’t learn the basics, and you think they’ll pay attention to the war of 1920? They can’t even tell you what side the US was on in WW1

@beachboy0505 4 года назад

(ref:Wilson) Kemal understood the West, it was all about military might.

@RandomGuy-df1oy 4 года назад

@Stephen Jenkins Hence Westerners had the most advanced military, he was true.

@RandomGuy-df1oy 4 года назад

@Archelaos Archon "Eevryone was aidinh Kemal" no. All the winners of the ww1 except Russia were supporting Greece and Ottoman dynasty who was an eneny of Kemal. Greeks were better equipped and had better weapons. No need to find execuses. Turkey had been founded from the ashes of an declined empire.

@nihalatsz294 4 года назад

You should also add Fraco-Turkish British-Turkish(Izmit, Mudanya, Derbent) Georgian-Turkish American bombardment of Samsun during Turkish independence war.