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The Green Party is a ‘dustbin for disgruntled hard leftists leaving Labour’ | Peter Mandelson 

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“The Green Party is becoming a dustbin, a repository not only for climate activists, but for disgruntled hard leftists leaving the Labour Party.”
Peter Mandelson says the Greens will “rue the day when they threw open their doors to all these people”.
Along with Polly Mackenzie, Daniel Finkelstein and Matt Chorley, they discuss why Rachel Reeves is saying that the Conservative government is "gaslighting" the British public about the economy.
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@CT99234
@CT99234 24 дня назад
'Hard leftists'? You mean people with left wing views which Starmer's Labour Party has made clear it has no room for, but welcomes in members of the hard right. Call the Green Party a dustbin all you like but at least they have a vision and some semblance of political ideology.
@leftgrrl
@leftgrrl 24 дня назад
At the moment the Greens win despite their ideology, dependent on looking fluffy and not facing scrutiny.
@thejuiceking2219
@thejuiceking2219 23 дня назад
remember, no matter how right wing you are, there will always be people who think you're far left
@kincaidwolf5184
@kincaidwolf5184 23 дня назад
Look at the Green Party in Scotland. They pushed for the banning of log burners...
@alaninsoflo
@alaninsoflo 23 дня назад
Peter Mandelson is everything that is wrong with the Labour Party aka the Pale Blues. #VoteGreen
@kincaidwolf5184
@kincaidwolf5184 23 дня назад
The greens in scotland are awful
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 22 дня назад
@@kincaidwolf5184 The greens in England are trying to outdo them in awfulness
@NoJusticeMTG
@NoJusticeMTG 22 дня назад
Cope harder, landlord ​@@kincaidwolf5184
@MarKeMu125
@MarKeMu125 18 дней назад
​@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 there needs to be a proper anti neoliberalism party that the masses can get behind.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 17 дней назад
@@MarKeMu125 I am a liberal. I don't want the loony far left or the loony far right.
@DylanSargesson
@DylanSargesson 21 день назад
If you're in a Labour/Tory marginal, the cold fact is that a voter who switches from Conservative to Labour is worth twice as much than a disgruntled former Labour voter who switches to Greens/Independents/Don't Vote.
@ANDY1985UK2011
@ANDY1985UK2011 19 дней назад
true but when corbyn was leader in 2019 there were so many people like me in marginals that just didn't vote
@DivinaDeCampoTV
@DivinaDeCampoTV 25 дней назад
This is why Mandelson is so disliked by so many and so many young people are turning away from Labour. We know what the problems are we know they can be fixed and every plan to fix them has been walked away from and those still in place have been rolled back so much they won’t achieve what’s needed.
@MurphyOCP-001
@MurphyOCP-001 19 дней назад
56% of 18-24 year olds with an intention to vote, intend to vote Labour. More than all the other parties combined. Stop talking nonsense.
@RuMixesButBetter
@RuMixesButBetter 26 дней назад
There are so many public services crumbling & we have had stagnant wage growth for over a decade. There’s zero chance of the Tories changing that in the space of 4-5 months
@benedict-4965
@benedict-4965 26 дней назад
Or labour with five years
@gavinsmith9564
@gavinsmith9564 26 дней назад
@@benedict-4965 Not without reversing the Brexit damage which they've pledge not to do.
@garybown2682
@garybown2682 26 дней назад
@@benedict-4965 So just stick with what we've got then?
@benedict-4965
@benedict-4965 26 дней назад
@@garybown2682 vote workers party
@garybown2682
@garybown2682 26 дней назад
@@benedict-4965 🤣
@sarahbarrett1247
@sarahbarrett1247 26 дней назад
Yes they are. And it’s not restricted to the economy. We’re gaslit about most issues.
@SomeRandomGuy121
@SomeRandomGuy121 25 дней назад
Yes. Playing off the pandemic woes, their actions inactions on to others, tactically, hiding themselves in it, making it a "them problem" and not a "them problem". Big play to keep the world lost and stung between these nations/authorities and continuing on with them. $$$$ vs. Viral betrayal. Etc. These lot left the world to warfare in the midst of some pandemic, china made a noise, they threw a hissy, china stated "perhaps it came from an american soldier", here we are now : warfare. "lockdown now" "cannot, will not, will not F me and my friends" - Very $$$$ vs. "Perhaps it came from an American soldier"... The interactions of these nations, of these world leaders, left too, threw too, intentionally, us people, this world to this via that pandemic. "will not f me and my friends" "seek to destroy OUR ENTERPRISE", it also smells personalised, definitely nationalised (given the system, personalised aint far from and with regarding nationals) and they're hiding it. As i said day 1 and since as viua the words from their mouths and a lil understanding of the international interaction, They were just out to rope it open, milk it, the world hangs in it economically, its basic pathogen warfare, it could have been a setup for worse, they made it seem they had just found it, seemingly, by observation it spread prior, me and many others here were very ill prior to the fuss, it had mainly spread, and given "say nothing" etc. they would let it, say nothing untill someone "had too", if at all, vaccines and variants, death pandering and so on.. "blanketed", hidden it. Fear fills hospitals, anti vaccine agenda makes everyone hate anyone not following official narrative. Saying it certainly isnt pathogen warfare... Blind? Everyone here was ill prior. They were out to do 0 with that virus, hide it all, open it up, milk it, it had already spread, it was a global economic FFest, ww3 trigger, still is. ITS MIDST : !! When putin was talking of lockodwn - "expect some oil shortages". Oil the blood of war. I was dumb on this point at first, "if they have to lockdown, can expect supply lines to dwindle".. blonde, focused on the virus and having no response due to the economic situation, rather than the pathogen economics itself.! Blonde. "those who seek to destroy our enterprise" said truss at the time that pipeline blew.. Covid was and is a financial playoff between these world leaders. They left it too it "0 treaties", initiated it "locdown now". Thats just the world we live in. House, religions, people strung between in a field of financial and populate dominance.
@user-nq2th7zw2b
@user-nq2th7zw2b 26 дней назад
This isn't helping people this is bullying them with work or starve . Sick or not
@SomeRandomGuy121
@SomeRandomGuy121 25 дней назад
This is, we have openings, in the army, frontline for you, play off their hands and their plandemic VS.
@user-zc4yd9ss7h
@user-zc4yd9ss7h 22 дня назад
Many green candidates would surely be considered far more decent people than Natalie E, who Labour have welcomed with open arms despite a very very dodgy background and racist views.
@user-hb7tw9iv5m
@user-hb7tw9iv5m 26 дней назад
Gaslight is a book by Patrick Hamilton from which the film was adapted. Young people definitely know what it means
@MrDunkycraig
@MrDunkycraig 24 дня назад
I got 19 mins into this before i had to switch of listening to Mandleson who is as culperable as Blair for the state of this country along with how many times he had to resign from office. Why is he still allowed to spout his poison?
@geoff9759
@geoff9759 26 дней назад
Anyone who wants a true reflection of the UK economy - wherever you live, go to your nearest town or city and see what the actual situation is. I won't say, go and see.
@allip4226
@allip4226 26 дней назад
The only thing I'm interested in hearing from this government is when they're going to call a general election.
@nickedwards212
@nickedwards212 26 дней назад
Well there's one thing for sure they will DEFINITELY BE OUT by Friday the 31st of January 2025. Yippee 👏👋
@archvaldor
@archvaldor 25 дней назад
What are you expecting to happen when we get a different load of suits with the same policies?
@MarKeMu125
@MarKeMu125 18 дней назад
​@@archvaldoryeah, I agree. Starmers other neoliberalism party will get in and change literally nothing of consequence. The populous will get further disillusioned and 5 years after that we'll have the far right in power. Yaays /s
@arma21regency
@arma21regency 23 дня назад
Just when I thought I couldn’t despise Mandelson more than I already do
@abctransparency5
@abctransparency5 26 дней назад
Mandelson: "When they say free Palestine, they mean free Palestine from Israel." There's nothing wrong with that, Sir. Free Palestine from Israel so both countries and peoples can live side by side in peace.
@fredfish4316
@fredfish4316 23 дня назад
Palestine is Israel. Palestine is the Arab Muslim name for Israel. When the muslims say free Palestine, they mean Israel. The muslim arabs have been trying to drive the Israelis into the sea since the 7th century. In the early stage of the 6 Days war, Israel realised that Europe and the US were going to watch their annihilation. So they aimed their missiles at the Arab capitals. The jews were helped because they made it clear that they were not going to go through another holocaust and will not give up their ancient homeland. On the other hand the members of Hamas are Palestinians. They are not Chinese, or Indian or South Africans. Hamas live in Israel (Palestine), have family members and friends and neighbours who support them and committed the most appalling terrorist atrocities against innocent people. 133 of those victims are still unaccounted for. Israel has tried to forge a peace, over decades and had a workable peace deal in place, brokered by the Saudis, which Hamas decided to torpedo. Palestinians refuse to live in peace with infidels. Israel had even offered them Jerusalem, twice, but it nothing was never enough. Palestinians do not want peace. Terrorists want jihad and hence, jannah.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 22 дня назад
You won't get peace or freedom for people in Gaza with Hamas in power. Thats the point.
@busterbuster1641
@busterbuster1641 22 дня назад
Mandelson = your run-of-the-mill high-powered sociopath
@joea4234
@joea4234 26 дней назад
Like many ex-tory voters… i will never vote Tory again. Join the customs union & single market like Brexiteers said we would be mad to leave. #enduringtorychaos
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 21 день назад
Labour are also sgaslighting.
@edwardodonnell6857
@edwardodonnell6857 26 дней назад
The Tory answer to inflation/recession just divert public attention onto disability benefits
@YUDNSAY
@YUDNSAY 26 дней назад
If you work on the principle that ALL politicians have a degree in lies, and obfuscation, you won't go far wrong.
@thejuiceking2219
@thejuiceking2219 23 дня назад
that kind of attitude is what gets us into this mess in the first place, it's a self fulfilling prophecy
@edwardodonnell6857
@edwardodonnell6857 26 дней назад
Just hope ordinary people finally see the tories for what they are they get rich you get in serious debt with no human rights no sick rights no working rights in fact no rights.😮.
@fToo
@fToo 26 дней назад
do we really think that Mandelson has a mortgage?!
@willduffay2207
@willduffay2207 25 дней назад
But this is the basic Conservative ideology, and has been for decades: the poor are to blame for being poor, because they don't work hard enough or because they don't get better jobs. Never mind reality, just go with ignorant, arrogant prejudice supported by zero facts.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 26 дней назад
NET ZERO TORIES BY 2030!
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 21 день назад
Insulting voters is not a good look on any side, Mandleson.
@michaelchantler334
@michaelchantler334 26 дней назад
Not Betty Davis, Ingrid Bergman 😂
@pothos9913
@pothos9913 26 дней назад
I checked the comments just to see how soon someone would correct this. Such a brilliant film and a fun watch.
@archvaldor
@archvaldor 25 дней назад
You really do have to wonder how people get a gig like this when they can't google stuff.
@stephenashworth2480
@stephenashworth2480 26 дней назад
The tories have turned so many corners now, it has to be considered a death spiral.
@stevecoppin6396
@stevecoppin6396 26 дней назад
it's like riding on a ghost train
@badbooks476
@badbooks476 26 дней назад
@@stevecoppin6396 Tories make the Ghost scream
@fookesyb
@fookesyb 26 дней назад
doesn't Sunak realise it is possible to turn a corner whilst still maintaining a downward trajectory, or be veering out of control.
@user-ol3xe5fz4u
@user-ol3xe5fz4u 26 дней назад
if any of these smug gits earned 25k a year without any savings or their own home be so smug??
@pmcgktr
@pmcgktr 26 дней назад
I’m not anti-capitalist for not wanting Palestinians to die. What a braindead take 16:54
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive 25 дней назад
It rally is quite something, for the presetners to pat themselves on the back, all 'politely' saying how all the pro-palestine radicals are anti-imperalist/anti-capitalist/anti-western/corbynistas, at least Polly said something, but then a drole interruption with bette davis trivia to shutdown the real conversation from actually occurring.
@davidbell217
@davidbell217 26 дней назад
Even jesus can't save the Tories 😂😂
@KernitTheFont
@KernitTheFont 26 дней назад
You mean Satan? 😂
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 21 день назад
Why would he want to? He was a socialist.
@SuperMarion61
@SuperMarion61 26 дней назад
Yet again I add, if you mean cutting the #PIP disability benefit,mostly for those with predominantly mental health issues, is NOT an out of work benefit😰 Do your 🧐 I got the previous DLA (disability living allowance) while working at DWP😂 I have a 40 year old son, disabled from birth in a good managerial job, but needs part of his PIP to have his car (these are his legs)😢
@nickedwards212
@nickedwards212 26 дней назад
That's really good. I knew a man who had mental health Issues and he doesn't get PIP. Because the year before last on christmas eve he took his own life. He was only 37 years old 😫 May he R.I.P
@nicksimmons7234
@nicksimmons7234 23 дня назад
Priti Patel told us in lock down, shop lifting was down. This was went all the shops were closed. Thats not political campaigning it’s just being thick.
@knobfieldfox
@knobfieldfox 26 дней назад
It was an Ingrid Bergman film from 1944 called Gaslight
@TrevorBarre
@TrevorBarre 25 дней назад
NOT Betty Davis, Dan. It was Ingrid Bergman.
@rnanerd6505
@rnanerd6505 22 дня назад
No. Two things. 1. A lot of mainstream centre left pro European labour voters are increasingly upset by the Brexit lite nature of the current Labour Party and votes could hemorrhage to the greens from that source too 2. The 21st century will increasingly face huge environmental challenges and green politics is destined to grow, huge support among the young. Labour would be wise to embrace green politics
@seanoconnor8843
@seanoconnor8843 26 дней назад
Regarding the world economy, apparently more shipping cargo capacity was produced last year than America built between 1935-45. All shipyards are working 3 shifts and will be for at least 4 years. I wouldn't worry about the economy
@jamespitman5450
@jamespitman5450 23 дня назад
Gaslighting: any of these three telling you they're motivated by public service and the common good
@user-tc7qb7st2d
@user-tc7qb7st2d 19 дней назад
High time Mandelson was expelled from Lsbour
@theman2017inc
@theman2017inc 26 дней назад
CORRECTION the film that Daniel Finkelstein referring to didn’t star Bette Davis There were two versions of the film titled GASLIGHT, the1940 British original then the later Hollywood remake from 1944 with Ingrid Bergman not Davis
@gullygullible9774
@gullygullible9774 26 дней назад
In England 0.1 percent rise in economic performance is to be celebrated lots of jokes in there 😊 As for Peter Mandelson you'd think he was able to vote twice
@peterelgood1656
@peterelgood1656 20 дней назад
I think Danny is remembering the film "Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte" with Bette Davis and Olivia de Havilland which exemplifies gaslighting in the plot. Anyone agree?
@seanlee-fp1vi
@seanlee-fp1vi 26 дней назад
Deluded tories have no chance
@SwindonforEurope1
@SwindonforEurope1 20 дней назад
She sounds like Starmer. Same cadence, same pauses and emphasis. They've got the same speech coach!
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 24 дня назад
Most definitely
@DylanSargesson
@DylanSargesson 21 день назад
6:00 really feel like this is just him showing his age here - "gaslight" is a very common word (even off of Twitter), and even if it wasn't the meaning was clear from the rest of the sentence.
@TrevorBarre
@TrevorBarre 20 дней назад
Owen Jones has left Labour! Boo noo, I feel so sorry for the Greens.
@michealhunt6607
@michealhunt6607 17 дней назад
Dont, at least they don't have a creep like one of Jeffery Epsteins best mates one **checks notes** Peter Mandelson advising them whilst letting in literal tories, left, right and centre into a so called "left wing" party
@strikeforcealpha9343
@strikeforcealpha9343 26 дней назад
So what else is new?
@Katzzzz
@Katzzzz 26 дней назад
"What is London?" I'm canvassing for opinions.
@TheMatthooks
@TheMatthooks 25 дней назад
The numbers for momentum that will be silly enough to leave the party is tiny. It's genuinely not going to make a difference. They're making the perfect the enemy of the good. However, this bloke forgets the left at his peril. We are the core of the party.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 21 день назад
Even at its height Momentum was only 40,000. They try to make anyone even slightly left to be bogey men.
@Tiredsoverytired
@Tiredsoverytired 26 дней назад
Follow the money. Learn about sound money principals. It will teach you a lot and you will see everything clearly.
@alloursongs
@alloursongs 26 дней назад
There was a great film with Bette Davies, featuring a situation of gaslighting: Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte, 1964.
@badbones777
@badbones777 25 дней назад
Can't see how they can truly call it a conservative achievement (equal marriage) when about 2/3's of the party voted against it.
@leftgrrl
@leftgrrl 24 дня назад
The Tory MPs split much more like 50:50 than that, but it was an entirely Lib measure.
@guff9567
@guff9567 26 дней назад
Gas light ended in the 1940s
@UKprl
@UKprl 25 дней назад
I mean I have stayed in caravans such at Gt Yarmouth or Dawlish Warren and the first few years they were definitely lit by gas mantle, I can still remember the smell. The calor gas was doing the cooking and hot water too, I am not sure they had electricity as such or you paid more for that. And this would be in the 70s.
@guff9567
@guff9567 25 дней назад
@@UKprl oh sorry. I meant street lighting, generally
@bobmoshersmonsters
@bobmoshersmonsters 21 день назад
I'd be more offended if this wasn't coming from a close friend of epstein, photographed on his dodgy island, how many "massages" did you get Peter? Gross
@stoicsceptic8420
@stoicsceptic8420 25 дней назад
Just the economy ? 😂😂. Schills.
@prestigepea1235
@prestigepea1235 23 дня назад
Ingrid Bergman film thank you very much!
@chriswright3179
@chriswright3179 25 дней назад
Yes
@carltontweedle5724
@carltontweedle5724 26 дней назад
All that gas whey does not someone light a match.
@henryblunt8503
@henryblunt8503 26 дней назад
I could forgive Danny for getting Betty Davies mixed up with Ingrid Bergman (though Peter has rather let the Gay Team down by not correcting him), but you're all supposed to know stuff like the difference between the Alternative and Supplementary Vote. Again, Peter really should have known this as it was Labour's Plant report that invented the system.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 21 день назад
I prefer Norman to Danny. Far more intelligent.
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce 23 дня назад
If Starmer was for the people he wouldn't have stabbed JC in the back.
@woodngames
@woodngames 25 дней назад
ru-vid.comygr6Br5cqsQ Cameron snippet for those that know
@michaelmullins3396
@michaelmullins3396 26 дней назад
It would be nice if this propaganda Chanel reported the fact that a severe incident has just taken place between the Russian foreign ministry and the British foreign ministry, where the British ambassador had been given a dressing down by the Russians over provocative statements made by the pig farmer Cameron regarding the use of British weapons against the primary territory of Russia. Similar statements have been made by the Americans and French , but a major back down has been made by both the French and British , with virtual Silence from the British, including the vast majority of the British media. Once again the British people are kept in the dark about what the British government are doing on its behalf.
@christiansquibb1
@christiansquibb1 26 дней назад
Normal 5 minutes of nonsense comedy at the start.
@user-wj7cv9hb5j
@user-wj7cv9hb5j 26 дней назад
Lol Rachel 2 houses reeves 😂😂😂
@royboy565
@royboy565 26 дней назад
Just 6 houses behind the average tory M P
@justjackman
@justjackman 20 дней назад
Arguably the most influential politician of our generation is Nigel Farage and he’s never been in any formal power
@808State21
@808State21 26 дней назад
Unless they give me a free New build im not voting for them.
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