I remember sitting in sushi bar with vegetarians who proclaimed whaling is barbaric as they slopped down tuna, and I thought to myself, "You've got a lot of ducking nerve." When a tuna is killed it feels pain too.
Benat Agirre refering to "except that these are not fish, these are whales" commented by kurtilein3. I was wondering what he was talking about, I thought I missed some fish in the video
Exactly why vegans hassle little old ladies in fur coats instead of bikers in big leather jackets. Bunch of limp wristers, never amounted to anything, or cared to, so they want to destroy something somebody else has.
All the hippies complaining, this is exactly what happens in any slaughter house. At least this is sustainable, eaten locally and the whales didn't live their lives in a cage.
kurtilein3 But it IS sustainable, as it has been going on for a thousand years and the population of pilot whales is still thriving. They do it for food, and the meat has many important nutrients. As for not being edible, well they seem to be pretty healthy people, regardless of the mecury... Which is in most seafood.
I was wondering about the sustainability of this act. I found a rough estimate to be a population of 800,000 pilot whales (on the low side) so the 1700 number (high side estimate of harvest and probably more like 800) would be .002%. 800 would be .001%. That seems to be one of the most sustainable fisheries imaginable and would even be sustainable at a harvest of around 24,000 whales assuming a 3% of total population growth rate. Sharks are not faring so well. In the last 30 years, we have decimated shark populations which are at about 10% of what they were 30 years ago, mostly for shark fin soup with the fins cut off and the body thrown overboard. The majestic White Tip Shark is down to less than 1% of its original population simply because they have very large fins. If we are going to pick up a cause and run with it, shark preservation is really what we need to look at right now. If we are going to look at another metric, consider this. An average pilot whale weighs 4000 lbs so say they provide 1600lbs of edible meat/blubber. Fins taken from shark on average are around 4 or 5lbs. That means you would have to kill at least 320 sharks to get fins equal in food value to one Pilot Whale. I think Sea Shepherd folks might consider on shifting their focus to the plight of the sharks.
From where do you get your estimate? No one has any idea how many Pilot whales there are in the North Atlantic. The islanders kill the most whales and dolphins in the world per capita. The meat is toxic with methyl mercury, so only small amounts are eaten. What drives the islanders to kill is for pleasure, sport and out dated tradition. The islanders have many other sources of food, and one of the worlds highest standards of living, yet they pretend they need it to survive.
Good point @Be the change, but who cares about facts in this issue. We are talking about cute animals. Only ugly animals are ok to enslave, eat and kill for money.
@@mackman6602 Of course you don't care for facts asshat. You only care about lies, hatred, and propaganda. The great news people DO care about facts instead of the nonsense you pedal.
@@125minden They don't have much agriculture and their country doesn't have many exports, meaning they have a low capacity to import food. Where are you getting this idea that they have many other sources of food?
@@kev8646 They have 70,000 sheep, salmon farms, and a large fishing industry. Their shops are packed full of food just like any other western country. They have one of the highest standards of living in the world. No one goes hungry, yet they pretend they need to kill in order to survive. The meat is highly toxic with methyl mercury and other pollutants, so only small amounts get eaten. The rest is eventaully dumped or secretly fed to their salmon farms. What drives the islanders to kill nowadays is for fun, sport, and out dated tradition.
I was wondering about that as well. They kept going on and on about how the killing of the whales was for entertainment and whatever, then she goes on to say that he likes to get poetic about his shit... WHO is doing this for entertainment now?
+Roy Sinar I believe the figures mentioned were 800 whales taken annually out of an estimated population of 800,000. Whatever the numbers, since this hunting has been going on for 1,000 years, you have to think the islanders know how to manage this resource.
+ChinaLake100 yes I remembered so I went on the NAMMCO website and checked. The latest figures they have put the population, probably, between 75,000 and 250,000 for those in the north west Atlantic. Globally the number of pilot whales is estimated near the 800,000 mark, I can't remember the actual figure but then it bears no relation to the grind so I would have just browsed past it. I don't believe everything that I hear on a video, I go and check. Now maybe you can tell me why the 800,000 figure is not important when considering the grind.
1A Garage Doors The islanders don't eat whale meat like they did 100 years ago. As the meat is highly toxic with methyl mercury and PCB's the meat can not be eaten, except only as a delicacy. Medical health authourities on the islands have advised not to eat any meat. The islanders have a huge variety of food sources much like any other western country. They walk around with full bellies, and no one goes hungry. What drives the islanders to kill is for the sick idea of fun and tradition. Much of the meat is simply dumped back at sea. I suggest you do some of your own research before you write B.S. nonsense.
Yeah, they've had the opportunity to do this since 1986 and all they did was claim everyone could afford the products they happened to find at the one or two shops they visited.
mack man You’re so wrong in many ways, they make money off of the whale huntings which allows them to import food so people like you don’t complain about how it’s “in humane” they need to eat.
People from around the world telling them that this is wrong because it's inhumane. So what exactly does that mean? The whales are free and left alone until hunted and killed whereas the meat that you find in your supermarket has been imprisoned from birth and until put to death. So what sounds more humane to you? Those that argue "But you can just get all the food you want from your local supermarket" aren't thinking it through, cause that would mean a lot more food being imported and foul being used. This would also mean that what they're saying is that it's completely fine that their country is killing animals and selling them to us to eat but it's not alright for us to provide our own. The tourism industry is doing just fine and growing. If people want to visit they will need to visit the islands as they are. If people around the world were able to dictate others how their culture should be there would be no reason to visit other countries and experience their culture, because they've already killed those cultures, if you know what I'm saying.
how long do you think the whales will be living in this planet while you and your kind keep depleting them? Do you think God will still continue to provide for your Satanic practices and tradition?? You're more than stupid to say and even think they won't go extinct. I hope you Faroewers go extinct before those whales do, because they deserve to live in the earth more than you do
If you would really inform yourself you would know that their method of killing is the most humane method to kill any animal. They are dead within seconds since both spinal cord and brain are destoyed ad the same time. And also pilot whales are not endangared.
@@__ISEKAI_ better than doing nothing. The "real problem" is the law in this case. You can't just force the Faroe islands to change their laws. But they can show the world what's going on and show their disagreement towards this. This has worked before with Japan's whaling and it can work again :)
@@nils-ph3zs I think op meant more that the real problems of pollutions, overfishing and climate change are too big to tackle. So instead they disrupt the hunting practices of a small community that doesn't contribute to these problems, only because that's in the realm of possibility for these activists.p
the island has no exports... the island cannot really import much in thw way of food, so it is honestly incredibly understandable why they rely on the ocean even whales.
@Oakpc2002 They can fish, no? How about get some fishing boats and do that. Who are you to determine necessity? Stop making excuses for your white hypocrisy.
@@pugilist102 these wales are not endangered nor is it for commercial purposes witch leeds to want for larger harvests that then speeds the demise of the animals up even more or else causes the animals to go extinct, these guys have no commercial gain, only sustenance drives them so they know how much they need and take no more. difference between sustainable practice and non-sustainable
I'm in full support for the Faroes because it's a part of their food source. People who are against it that are not from the Faroe islands don't have the rights to just waltz right in and tell them to stop. Those Sea Shepards can't see both sides. Just because they're killing whales for food doesn't mean they're doing it for fun as well. What about the other animals who are being forced feed, locked up, and in poor conditions in order for them to just get slaughtered in the end? I don't understand how you could simply think that what they've been doing for years is wrong. I feel bad for the people of Faroes who are being ridiculed and out casted by other people who are irrelevant to the matter online. Just like how that one dude posted a picture of himself and the whales and got blasted with hate. Everyone who discriminates needs to calm down and look at the matter with their perspectives. There's no need for them to get arrested as well... The Grind isn't even illegal. In fact, the only illegal things going on are the people arresting them. They have no say in the matter. Let the Faroes be and go on with their lives without people's opinions getting in their way. I'm an Asian Canadian and I support their way of life. I'm so disappointed that people can't see that what they do is all a part of nature.
If it was for food I would suggest there was a lot more weight to the killing of the whales, but its not. The meat and blubber are toxic and as such there are strict medical guidelines to how much anyone should eat per day. It is no longer an essential part of the islanders anymore, it is a nice to have for a small number of the population. There is new evidence to suggest that pilot whale populations are genetically diverse in the thousands. Therefore it would make the grind a very serious risk to a genetic population. It may well be that the grind will cease once the genetic evidence is finalised as it would certainly be unsustainable at that point. I do not believe you can force a population to give something up, but what you can do is keep pointing out the elephant in the room until such a time as the population sees that it is the right thing to do to stop. As the whales killed are migratory, and not actually from the local populations, it is something we can all have a say on. We share the oceans and the creatures within them as they know no borders.
+Roy Sinar That's where nature comes in. They're using their surroundings and the whales that happened to migrate around their island was just one of the few animals they could use as resource. I'm not saying they should be eating whales for days and weeks on end but instead they are trying to conserve the left over whales for that year. It's true that the whales isn't an essential food source but it helps bring the community together and saves time to hunt for other food sources like those birds which take a fairly long time of the day to hunt yet needed a lot of them in order to feed the family or neighbors. As for the ocean, I do believe that it belongs to everyone and everything in them but how could people deny the fact that they're limited to the animals on that island and the vast ocean? Wouldn't it be fair if they could use the creatures in the ocean that surround their island as part of their food source without being put on blast? I know people have their own opinions but at least their appreciating how nature works. Humans are still animals. We hunt and we kill for food. That's what makes us primitive to a point. Although, I do see what you're trying to convey from the other side but I'm fine with the people of Faroe.
+Demvry Lee I have no issue with the Faroese. As far as I can tell they are OK. But if the whales are so toxic that they can only eat small amounts safely then why hunt it. The lady in the video said as much (Faroese lady). They have a massive industrial fishing fleet, fish farming and enough sheep for it to be a fairly regular source of food. They have plenty of supermarkets and even a Burger King, so why waste time killing a lot of whales when you are not able to eat them? So taking away the false idea of it being for food, what other reason would you suggest might justify the scale of killing?
+Roy Sinar Bare in mind that eating at Burger King or any typical Industrialized food that is filled up with anti biotics, hormone and feed with items that is not organic is a bigger health risk to them and to the environment. And bare in mind that the burger is not free but costly, very costly at those regions and the pilot whale is local and free. Yes, the pilot whale does contain things that should be avoidable, but everything is about amounts. To much wine will also kill you. You can also die if you only consume cola and even to much water will kill a human being. But that does not stop us from drinking cola, wine or consuming unhalthy burgers. The point is that people, also these islanders, consume a variety of foods and not too much of just one source. False idea of it being food? It is still far more healthy than a large portion of the "food" you consume in your own cuntry! E.g fast food.
+avion ellivi I don't believe the medical advice in the Faroe Islands covers not eating Burger King. Can't think why that might be. Any ideas? Also I think you missed the point. Still not to worry. The relative scaremongering about fast food has little to nothing to do with the medical advice on the Faroe Islands regarding whale meat and blubber. Now if they had advice suggesting that fast food was toxic and a likely cause for numerous medical conditions, I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but there isn't so your point is?
@@nocturnalwolf7559 tradition doesn't make it right... but it will be hypocrisy to allow commercial hunters while banning these people who don't even have fertile land to harvest crop and ocean is only way to survival.
@@nocturnalwolf7559 bro why are you going after small hunters, what about the massive commercial businesses slaughtering animals, and keeping them inside a confined area, making the animal have a crap life, then they make the anaimal have a cruel death, that doesn’t happen with these small hunters, the animal actual has a great life out in nature, then it has a quick death no suffering, they have to feed there small population, and this is the only way they can do it.
It’s awesome how the Faroe people share the meat and do not charge and they all worked together to get the meat. Absolutely awesome how the people of the island are
I love how you are defending the white people doing it but not the japanese. Any slaughter of marine life is off limits in our world today if we want to conserve it. It isnt farmed it isnt sustainable it is just humans thinikng they can harvest something they dont replace
See the thing is, the people who's food source depends on wild catching/game are the same people who understand how important it is to balance what they do otherwise they would have depleted their resources. It's crazy how people can't think about these things logically.
Yeah but you don't understand that the islanders don't eat it as a source of food like they once did. The islanders are driven by this sick idea that it is FUN to kill whales and dolphins. The meat is contaminated with toxins, they simply can eat anything except the smallest amounts. Medical health officials on the islands have advised not to eat any meat! There are many alternative sources of food, no one goes hungry, and they are one of the richest parts of the world. Up to a third of the meat gets dumped back at sea. The islanders need to hold their heads in shame.
Yesterdays brutal killing of *1428 white-side dolphins in the Faroe Islands was an illegal hunt.* The grindforeman of the district was not informed. And had he been, he says he wouldn´t have allowed the slaughter to happen. Instead, another grindforeman made the decision, a decision he was not allowed to make. It is on him that 1428 dolphins were driven for over 40 km. He made the call for them to be slaughtered even though there weren´t enough people or boats to handle all the dolphins. He allowed for a complete chaotic massacre to happen, and he has been reported to the local police for this. A man like that can not have the responsibility to decide the fate of migrating whales and dolphins again. The only right thing to do is to strip him of his authority, and to ban all future hunts on white-sided dolphins. The locals who are using their voices to speak up against this need to be applauded, and lets hope that they will not back down.
I live in Iceland, we are also a whaling country, my village was established by fishermen including whalers in the 1600's, the Faroese have a much longer tradition of whaling, they have much less ariable land than us and a tradition based on necessity going back hundreds of years, we know what we are doing, Icelanders, Norwegians and the Faroese have sustainably fished their waters for over a thousand years, the economies here are very dependant on fishing and the technology being used in concerted effort to keep these industries sustainable are incredibly sophisticated, as USA was flying drones in Pakistan and the middle east Obama gave us shit for whaling, the EU is moving to ban seal hunting, cutting a huge chunk of the Greenlandic economy away and making a large part of the population unemployed and in a position where it is difficult to provide for themselves because m-muh cute animals m-muh intelligent beings while GCHQ in the UK spies on everyone in Europe, the Icelandic economy runs on 85% renewable energy, the Faroese are also high up there, while Australia is moving to export coal and Canada and the US are going to devastate the environment to get fossil fuels from fracking and tar sands. Who is harming the environment more here? It was Britain, the US, Russia, and Europe that killed all of the whales, the human population of the west Nordic countries was always only in the tens of thousands and these industries here were microscopic compared to the total catch of these countries
My biggest problems with whaling is the deliberate hunting of mothers with calves...those sick fu€#sers go after the young first in pods because the mother won't abandon its young and kill pregnant mothers! Sickos eat something more ethical!
That's so crazy! There is no necessity to kill thousands of whales and dolphins! You don't need their meat! Leave these beautiful creatures alone! It doesn't matter if it's done by Iceland, Denmark, EU, Russia , Japan or whatever! Just leave them alone! They have a right to live in peace!
i feel bad for those people bcuz they only killed the whales to feed their family and these outsiders coming to their country and saying its not right to do so, they do have some guts..smh
They're getting "kicks out of killing animals, and that leads to killing people"? Yeah, I guess that's why the Faroe Islands have the lowest crime rates IN THE WORLD. I wonder what the cities and suburbs these rich modern kids are like, where they don't live close to nature like this.
Frida Nyberg killing animals don't lead to killing people it's gang and bullying and racism that leads to killing people. people hunt to live and eat what they kill
Peter Mortimer What's this? Pamela Anderson is not a towering intellectual? All those wasted years watching Bay watch. Because that is all I watched it for. Honest! Now, on a serious note... Would any of those Faroese Women, wear a Baywatch style swimming costume, while rushing into the water (slow motion, please) and dragging a Whale to shore. But instead of giving it C.P.R, she would obviously slaughter it. I have no problem with Grindadrap.
That shows its all about the money just like a local church taking donations and does not have a homeless shelter or food for them it's all about the money
Yeah Bee so just because humans suffer, noone should care when humans ruin the environment and drive species into extinctions? i would rather have a few thousand people suffer and die than to have a species of whales going extinct. a few thousand backwards idiots have no value at all, a species of whales has a near-infinite value compared to that.
hunting/fishing whales nowadays doesn't thou. we are harvesting a renewable source of protein. this is not even commercial it is just communal if some company took all of the whales i'd have a problem
This is called the fallacy of relative privation: the idea that there is only one "biggest problem" in the world, that everyone should agree on what that is, and that any time spent on any other problem is time wasted. Not only is this absurd (not everyone agrees on what the biggest problems are), wrong-headed (it suggests that people can only support one cause at a time and that "everyone" working on that problem is somehow infinitely better than "enough" people), but it's actually evil. It's evil because it allows "whataboutism" and allows people to point fingers at people "wasting time" on issues they don't find important, and justifies any but the most prevalent evil. "Sure, there's child labor, slavery, three genocides, but what about THAT genocide?" - this suggets we should ignore the first five examples entirely until we've solved the sixth. It's an ignorant argument and you should stop using it.
I guess we are all spending our lives by choice. Must of us choose family, work etc. And not dedicating our lives helping those in needs (humans). So to be fair, those who choose the way of the seashepard life are no better or worse than the average joe, or what do you think? I mean why should a seasheapard be more obliged to help children in Africa than the one that spend their time fixing old cars?
The people of the Faroe Islands have interesting way of life. I can understand way they do this it's not my place to tell them what they can and can not do.
@一山田 Thank you !! Correct ! I was watching different whaling vids yesterday and the vids with Japanese was filled with racist rhetoric.. When it was a European country their was nothing bu understanding and they got a pass... Thank you for sharing your opinion as I agree with you
Whales and dolphins have the intelligence capacity to understand their own reflection in the mirror. They learn this the same way human kids learn what their own reflection is. Both whales and dolphins also understand and mourn death.... So yes, what these people are doing is appalling and disturbing.
@SeaShepherd Buster Whining and crying about how there is the sometimes inhumane treatment of farm animals, and then using this lame excuse to justify the horrendous, brutal and viscous slaughter of whales and dolphins makes you look like a hypocritical asshole.
@@p.c.h.6721 mate, do you really need to prove my point further? Do you want to define what is necessary? What culture are you even from? Most likely one of much more waste and improvident practices, on a much larger scale. And yes, we live in the 21st century, what's your point. Bring a better argument than "current year" and one might consider taking you seriously.
Msj Unnecessary in the 21st century means that there is no longer the need to be killing wild animals, we have chickens, pigs and so on. There was a time when people ate Rhinos, elephants and hippopotamus so they could eat, but in the 21st century no one would approve of that, even if for some people eating hippopotamus was a tradition. There was also a time when cannibalism was legal, eating people’s meat was also a tradition, but you my friend wouldn’t think of killing your neighbor so you could eat him in Christmas, would you? There’s is no need for that In the 21st century. Pretty much no one in the world approves of killing whales, except for the Japanese... regardless of how tasty the meat is, and regardless of the fucking tradition. I have no problem with the blood and I have no problem with killing a few whales, but is it necessary? I understand the Faroe Islands is a shithole in the middle of nowhere, it has No tourism, no economy except for a few salmon farms and all the young people leave the islands right after high school, so most of the population left in the Faroe Islands is old with no skills and they need to find a way to support themselves, but once again, is it necessary to kill whales in the 21st century? OF COURSE NOT
@@p.c.h.6721 Why you don't listen?? You think you can grow any chickens or pigs on those islands? Are you aware where they are? They're in the polar circle. The polar circle. You know what that is? Nothing can grow on those islands except a little of grass. They used what nature gave them for millennias. They can keep doing it, because it has almost 0 impact on those fishes. Those fishes are not endangered by any means.
I did see some side taking when the guy was whining about how he gets arrested but the people killing the whales weren’t. Also the sad tone of the voiceover
they are taking sides. There is a lot they didn't tell you, I was there in sandoy. Sea Sheppard sailed a speed boat on 4 whales in Sandoy. They are keeping a lot of things a secret
The government has told them not to eat the whales. They are toxic. Women and children do not eat them. Only stubborn old men and young men. With a taste for blood.
At the moment there locale leader said because it is more easy then take on the real problems they lost all there credibility for me Pamala Anderson and the fat guy just confirmed it for me
The only extremists are the Faroe islanders who kill dolphins for fun and sport in a cruel method. The meat is highly toxic so much of the meat is discarded.
"The only extremists are the Faroe islanders who kill dolphins for fun and sport in a cruel method" - that false claim just underlines @Julian´s statement that it is Sea Shepherd (and sheep like you mack) who are the extremist since you again and again come up with such outrages false claims.
You have in many video posts claimed these islanders kill just for fun. That is a false claim. It just shows to what ridicules lengths you will go to try to demonize these islanders. You obviously have so weak arguments that you feel a need to come up with such non documented hateful claims. You are pathetic
+keizersSoze11 You can't resist making personal attacks, it's easy to do, but makes your position look weak. Of course I don't mind and will ignore your ad hominems. The sickening point about the Grind is the ‘sport’ side of the grindadrap, when a grind is called there is a buzz of excitement, lots of people rushing to the killing bay, there is cheering and laughter and lots of hand shaking and congratulations. There is no denying that this is a sport with a festival like atmosphere for particularly the younger Faroese men often seen smiling and posing for photographs while drenched in the blood of the whales they have killed. Killing an animal for FUN is much like Bull fighting in Spain or Cock Fighting in some Asian countries. The Grind is a relief from the tedious existence faced by many in the Faroe islands, and killing for pleasure is a highlight for many.
@@dukedashwolfgg2283 Where on earth did you get the ludicrous idea that they are doing this simply to eradicate a species? None of the Faroese people would want to see the pilot whales become extinct. That would mean the cultural loss of an animal that's been a part of their landscape for centuries, and it would mean no more whale safari or the harvesting of the whales for their meat, i.e. a huge economical loss. I understand you might be against them harvesting whales for meat, but you can't be that fanatical about it and portray the Faroese as not wanting whales in their waters at all.
Man the sea shepherds seem so juvenile. It's just like a game to them, with their new toy boats and their special logos and jackets and playboy bunny sponsors.
@@Rmacik The animals are not a "party" to any dispute unless you want to self-eliminate. The First Law of Life is that life must take life for the sake of life (in order to live). There is no species of living thing that is exempt from this principle: ALL living things must devour or exploit other SPECIES of living things in order to survive. Only self-hating humans work to anthropomorphize animals (and campaign for the non-sensical idea of "animal rights"). To elevate "animals" to "party in a legal dispute" is to reduce humans to the status of animals (livestock or prey).
When Greenpeace was founded there primary goal was protesting wars and nuclear weapons but today instead of protesting war in Iraq,Syria,Libya they take on colossi like the Faroe islands because they are an easy target.
He doesn't make a good point, he commits the fallacy known as "false dilemma". He describes the situation as if we have a choice between either hunted or farmed meat, when meat consumption is in fact not at all necessary.
@@kahiwahiwaokalanikiaaina3533 obviously you missed the point. I repeat, people raise pigs in farms as livestocks. Pigs belong to those people. So it's ok to butcher and eat those pigs. People do NOT raise whales in the ocean. Whales belong to no one. So it's NOT ok to butcher and eat those whales.
Jason The whole reason the cows we eat existe is for consumption. Have you ever been to a feed lot. Or been to a livestock auction... HAVE YOU EVER PUT MEAT ON YOUR TABLE THAT DIDN’T COME FROM A STORE?
The true is YOU FAROE ISLANDS DO NOT NEED TO SURVIVE TAKING AND SLAUGHTER ANIMALS FROM THE SEAS TO SURVIVE THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE I HAVE EVER HEARD. 😂🤣 YOUR TRADITION IS SO OLD FASHIONED AND ONLY EXIST IN YOUR HEADS MOST PROBABLY IS ANOTHER EXCUSE TO KILL MARINE MAMMALS FOR MONEY OBVIOUSLY , PLEASURE , ARROGANCE AND ABOVE ALL PURE IGNORANCE. ANY GENUINE MARINE BIOLOGIST WHO GOES AND LIVE THERE WOULD HAVE TO TEACH YOU THAT YOU FAROE ISLANDS PEOPLE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE MARINE ECOSYSTEMS AND IN THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE WHEN WE HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE THREATEN TO PUT MANY ISLANDS UNDERWATER WITH SEA LEVELS RISING YOU ARE JUST IGNORANT THAT IS OBVIOUS. AND MENTION YOU EAT NATURAL , ORGANIC FOOD FROM NATURE ONCE OUR OCEANS ARE SO POLLUTED THAT THOSE WHO DARE TO EAT MARINE MAMMALS ARE EATING ANIMALS FULL OF TOXINS . I KNOW MOST OF YOU FAROE ISLAND PEOPLE DO NOT EAT DOLPHINS AND WHALES YOU HAVE PLENTY SUPPORT FROM YOUR RICH DENMARK. WHO PROVIDES YOU WITH PLENTY FOOD. SHOPPING MALLS , RESTAURANTS ,. WHAT ELSE ? YOU KILL MARINE MAMMALS FOR PURE IGNORANCE
Thank you for a beautiful and balanced doc. The Faroese people needed someone trying to understand them instead of those biased and hypocritical views, that the Sea Shepherds have been advocating. The problem with groups like Sea Shepherd is that they are fighting for their single cause and ignore everything else - If the Faroese didn't kill whales they would have to import more in order to survive, contributing more to the world's pollution... If anything, the Faroese people is living their life much more eco-friendly compared to Sea Shepherds sailing around, polluting the sea... - All the best from a Danish guy :)
+Peder Jensen "If the Faroese didn't kill whales they would have to import more in order to survive, " What absolute rubbish! The Faroe islands have the highest living standard in Europe they have supermarkets packed to the gunnels with a variety of food. They have sheep farming along with fish farms as other sources of food. That statement might be true 100 years ago but this is 2015, things have moved on. They don't "need" to kill whales.
+mack man People who get their food from nature are evil! If this planet is to have any chance of survival, we must all get our food from supermarkets. The way God intended.
mack man Yeah, because food from our local supermarket has never harmed any animal or been grown in ways that puts a huge negative strain on nature. Never!!
+mack man When a danish spokeswoman from Sea Shepherd visited danish news program Deadline, she advocated, that the grind is unnessecary because they could just go down their supermarket and get papaya. Yes, she actually said papaya - a fruit grown in Central America about 4000 miles from the faroe islands. Talking about our environment from a holistic point of view, this is nonsense. It is like these (you?) Sea Shepherd fanatics dont at all consider the impact, that the consumption of imported super market food has on our environment. Slaughtering whales (that is not even endangered) is a much more eco-friendly way to get nutrition. Also, why is it worse killing a whale than killing a sheep? The main argument seems to be that whales are smart, and therefore should not be hunted. What is the reasoning behind, that it is better to kill stupid animals than smart animals? Is is founded in any rationel thoughts, whatsover? If I think whales should be killed over sheeps, because sheeps are more cute and cuddly isn't it just as valid an argument? Finally, I have never mentioned anything about the Faroese Islands not having a high living standard. And of course they don't need to kill whales - But due to my prior arguments I think they should be free to, if they want. And sea shepherd should fck off and stop harassing small countries, when their own countries (expecially USA) are major contributors to the ongoing climate crisis. Get your priorites straight, please... And start by educating youselves. Watching this, Sea Shepherd seems more like a cult void of rational thoughts and scientific arguments than anything else. Calling the founder poetic for drawing the nazi card - Come on.
@@pugilist102 Japanese aren't afforded the title of "people of color", because their society actually functions. You're only a "person of color", if you need a nice white person to come along and defend you from "white capitalism", but since the Japanese are so good at "white capitalism", they don't need protection, and are therefore not "people of color"
Pam Anderson is somewhat stupid 14:33, there has been no increase of violence, since later years, and violence will always happen videogames or not, they don't correlate.
Pamela Anderson is profoundly stupid, and the Sea Shepherds should know better than to court her publicly. She's one of those celebrities who, if she's working for your cause, almost always needs a "minder" between her and the media to make sure she doesn't say anything stupid in front of a live camera, because she will.
@@natashanajeeb4959 Salmon, seals probably. The reason whales are so valuable to these people, even to this day, is like because it secured their food for the winter.
In this case is TOTALLY DIFFERENT. THE FAROE PEOPLE DON T EAT THE MARINE MAMMALS, MAYBE OCCASIONALLY, THEY DO NOT NEED TO. THEIR SUPERMARKETS ARE FULL OF FOOD AND THE SHOPPING MALLS TOO THESE PEOPLE ARE RICH PESANTS WITH NO EDUCATION IN MARINE LIFE, BIODIVERSITY AND BIOLOGY
Since no part of the whale is wasted why do they have to stop hunting. She's going to make their island starve. They make the grind worse than it actually is. It would be different if all the blood stayed on land.
Maybe limit the amount of animals slaughtered, or provide animals for agriculture. But either way our time is over, the time for extinction has come, pretty soon it’ll be us to having “our throats skit”.
This is their tradition, what they've been doing for hundreds of years. Just because this is a new millennia it doesn't mean people should drop their traditions from the last one. I don't care if anyone screams at me here in the comments i've said my piece and that is that.
Kay Vonlanthen . Try living up in the arctic where no vegetables grow and your will change your tune. I went to town 3 hours away to a store that sells flown in produce. A apple is about 13$. Going vegan where I live will literally make you starve to death. While you may choose to be a vegan, that is a luxury you have from the unsustainable cities you live in. From unsustainable mass produced produce labled organic from large companies. When you live on the fringe where you put back into nature what you get, you cannot choose to be so picky.
Kay Vonlanthen They live there because they choose to... Universal Human Rights says, that's the only justification you need... You are a slave to your paradigm, don't be telling the world that You're right and everyone else is not... You're a self-centered idiot... Geeeez... Now I'm getting angry... Time for a Time-out...
"Ive been here for 6 days..." reminds me the south park episode when Cartman joins Stan on the sea shepard and as cartman was giving an interview it said "Joined 30 minutes ago"
I mean, there are organisations that deal with shark finning, that doesn't mean sea shepards can't do what they do. It's like saying "why don't people that are curing cancer help the starving people of the world?". Logically this sentence doesn't make sense. I'm not saying that sea shepards are right in what they are doing, but jesus christ you could have found a better argument...
Mineflammer looks like Sea Shepherd is against EVERYONE EVERYWHERE, sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong, saying that they are willing to DIE for the whales. Then why are still breathing??!! Paul Watson even had their team cut a tuna net. But he paid $1,000,000 fine to get out of it. His team even went to the South China Sea to stop the fish men from fishing, that’s none of his fuk’N business, but he was there. One day someone from sea shepherd will get hurt REALLY BAD. !!
@@car24dude I especially said that "I'm not saying that sea shepards are right in what they are doing". I just think that your comment, to which I replied, hasn't got a logical foundation.
The Faroe Islanders have every right to hunt whale and you can't invade their land and tell them how to survive. I do however believe if the meat contains that high a level of mercury that maybe they need to change up the format a little. And i do admire the passion the activist have for saving these animals but calling Faroe Islanders primitive and nazis is very insulting , and you're asking for a reaction you won't like. These people are not barbarians , they are survivors. Perhaps taking a different approach and start educating them of the effects mercury has on the body and stop treating them like they're savages.
Animals are cruelly killed everyday people don't care if it's on there plate or in a burger but when it's on there screen they take the moral high ground
Kayley y the main difference is that this is highly sustainable. It would be a better world if people would take a cue from these natives, eat local produce, and stop polluting our oceans to ship food 3 times around the world.
@@DontBeMad911eating mass produced beef is ok to you? It's always you fat beef guzzling hypocrites who have never even seen a whale in nature crying about animal rights😂😂
Warning! : you are about to read a PERSONAL opinion- may cause, anger, distress, mood swings, nausea, nightmares and even fainting. I love watching Sea Shepherd, it was a good show, they saved the whales, helped restore the balance of the whale populations. I think it was a show that started with good intentions, the over fishing of our seas is a real problem and I have to give it to the Sea Shepherds for aiding in the correction of that problem. However everything needs boundaries, everything, including Sea Shepherd. This is one of those times. In all honesty, watching the grind was horrible and like Ellen DeGeneres says: If we all had to kill our own meat, most of us would be vegan. Never the less it is a way of life for people who live a completely different way of life than I do. It is sustainable and nothing is wasted, the animals are not tortured for a lifetime before dying. I cannot honestly sit here and and say in my heart that I feel it's wrong. I would never participate in a grind (I would just faint).. but I also don't condemn it.
Andor Kiss Sea Shepherd are as trustworthy as Fox News and Trump. Only ill informed gullible fools with absolute no critical sense think Sea Shepherd are trustworthy.
No, once again, you are wrong. Killing a keystone predator is a bad idea in any ecosystem. The SeaShepard conservation society does a lot of good. People who are opposed to conservation are usually uneducated with regards to biological systems.
Most people who blunty agree with Sea Shepherd twisted propaganda are ill informed gullible people with no critical sense who end up being easily mislead.
yeah Sea shepherd are so trustworthy that they faked that Paul watson was shot by a japanese, the bullet hit his kevlar vest, without going trough his jacket, and he only felt an sting he said, he felt a sting after being shot, lemme tell you something, i lived in the US for some time, i got a friend there he was a cop, he had been shot, and he broke 2 ribs and fractured 2 more and fell down, Watson however just said he felt a sting, and he got shot with a pistol calibre, problem is the Japanese have some of the strictest gun laws in the world, and they only allow police and the military to carry firearms, and and all handguns are banned in Japan. so tell me, how trustworthy are they?
So my question to sea shepherd is, If pollution in the oceans kills more whales than the grind why should the people on the Färöer Islands import meat which pollutes the sea if they do it by ship or pollutes the air if they do it with planes or whatever. Also get this, if they need the whales for food they are not going to extinct them, because they depend on them.
@Rob You have no understanding of anything, do you? You can play the semantics game all day long but then you'll lose too. You don't need any more food than what's required to keep you from dying yet I bet you still have a couple pounds extra simply because we're evolved to enjoy eating more than we strictly need to survive. Nobody eats only as much as they need. Nobody! Could, theoretically, the Faroese survive purely of Cod and Mutton? Sure but they'd all suffer from vitamin deficiency. Could they eat something else at great expense to the quality of their lives? Sure, so you could you and I but nobody does that. Even hardcore vegans don't follow that ethos strongly. Whale meat is very important for the quality of life of people in climates like the Faroese islands. Getting mammalian meat that's sourced locally is better for the environment(other species) and gives the Faroese the protein, fat and vitamins that are hard to get otherwise. Its technically possible to live without certain things but its so impractical its cruel to demand such of the only species on Earth with consciousness(us).
@@nicolaiby1846 I get what you’re saying, but can we stop acting like the Faroe Islands is some third world country… they literally get all their food imported and have grocery stores. Actually they’re a wealthy country.
These Faroe Island people don’t need to kill Wales, and they especially don’t need to butcher and torture thousands of dolphins in one day to survive. Denmark gives them everything they need. They did this because their ego, their ignorance, their boredom, and their small d*ck energy compelled them too. Those dolphins were beached on that bloody shore being slaughtered, being stabbed with screwdrivers by children, being run over, being tortured. Dolphins stay with their families for years. When you kill 1500 dolphins, you aren’t just killing them, you are destroying families, disrupting the eco-system. Dolphins have a history of protecting humans from sharks. They are sentient creatures. They aren’t fish, they are the smartest mammal next to man.
@@LC-fx2lo One has to call it what it is: Primary psychopathy (no empathy whatsoever, sadistic pleasure etc.). But empathy is an essential human trait. Read about the subject and you will understand. Psychopaths (born like this with a very different brain function than ours) have brainwashed the population into believing that "moral insanity" and inhuman cruelty should be considered as "normal" and acceptable. Therein lies the problem. Many among us can not understand that there are beings among us who look like us, but who are essentially inhuman.
Have fun getting mercury poisoning, theres a differnce from fsrming to culling, and the people who try to stop this are mostly against all harm to animals.
they do not eat whales that kill, because they are harmful to health, in fact they are not found in their supermarkets, they are killed for fun, they are frustrated, they are killed and then thrown back into the sea, they kill pregnant whales and play with their fetuses, this it is not hunting for food but barbarism. Learn to know before saying idiocies
they are a procted species and mercury is actually bad they are one of the most intelligent creatures of this planet actually I would let humans die and save the whales
Well my dad was in the Fareo Islands he loved the huge cliffs and he lives in the Lofoten Islands in Norway we have a whaling tradision we Hunt only one whale thats is the Minke whale and we have also a sealhunt tradision we Hunt the Coast seals in Norway and thats is the harbor seal and the Grey seal and sometimes in the winter we get visit from the Greenland seal that is growing in numbers. We had a Pilot whale tradision but we lost that tradision but i hope we will get that tradision back.
11:34 this is the colonial thought, he wanna change the other cultures, using force or something, just because HE think that is wrong. And it IS VERY DANGEROUS!
colonism is bad, but this has nothing to do with it, given the history of european colonism. europe historically has done much worse than suggesting killing whales in public by the thousands is a bad idea. straw man fallacy!
As someone who lives in the UK we don't have anything like this here, so it seems alien and would seem wrong if it was here and I would be against it as we have no reason to do stuff like this, but if this has been a way of life and a source of food for these people for so long, why stop them. They're not blowing them up with depth charges or hunting them to extinction they do it as a food source who is anyone to tell these people what to do with this tradition, you're doing more harm than good by opposing stuff like this lets be honest.
The man who stood up and called that ignorant woman a terrorist understands the frustration that Newfoundlanders feel over the unwarranted, international opposition to our annual sea hunt.
@@bozo1875 fun fact they have supermarkets and get everything delivered from Denmark with ships and plains just like normal people. It's not for survival. Those ppl don't need the whales meat to survive. They might not make profit with it but lots of those dead whales end up not even being used dumped back in the ocean.
@@bozo1875 have u been there before or how do u know? And even if it is more expensive u can't tell me that those ppl can't afford any of the stuff in the supermarket or that the thousands or even ten thousands of whales and dolphins are the only food they get. And even if all those points weren't there there is still that fact there are many biological reason on why this is very bad for the species it self maybe you should inform yourself a little more about the topic.
never mess with someone's food.....""there food in the grocery store why can't they buy food there?"" well, have you seen how expensive the food is?...these people's monthly wages can't afford to buy groceries....just look at Alaska
They live off industrial fishing which is also ending marine life. They earn good wages from the destruction of marine life and have a lot of food in supermarkets. For fun, they interrupt the migration of a protected animal and kill them with hooks and machetes.
@@mxblyxky They're not protected moron and destruction of marine life? The Faroe Island holds a population of less than 50k, they're not destroying anything, their input on the worlds wildlife is literally fucking nothing. This is a 1000 year old tradition and its more humane than 99% of meat consumption. So please educate yourself, read a book, try and increase your IQ.
These young Sea Shepherd volunteers are like New recruits in ISIS, They saw something "COOL" and wants to be part in it. Without fully knowing both sides of the spectrum.
The pilot whales are not endangered. Never been endangered and is classified as most likely to remain so by the experts and scientists within this field: NAMMCO
+Nina Nyggju NAMMCO is an organisation run by countries who have , and are interested in killing more cetaceans, ie The Faroe islands, Greenland, Iceland and Norway. Organisations involved are Faroes ministry of fisheries, Norway ministry of Trade and fisheries, Greenland ministry of fishing and hunting. etc NAMMCO is about as biased as you could get when it comes to cetacean population surveys. It's a bit like Tabacco companies doing a survey on the health benefits of smoking.
mack man NAMMCO is run by countries of the North Atlantic Region. They have a natural interest in having reliable information about the sources in their region. All of these countries rank among the most reliable countries in the world. I see no reason to not find their scientific studies reliable.
+Nina Nyggju why does NAMMCO describe a population as being in the low thousands? Why do they say that they are not sure about numbers. These islanders could be destroying a genetically different population each year. So I agree their scientific studies (well actually they rely on others for this) should be taken into account and this killing stopped until the populations are understood.
Roy Sinar The latest numbers will be published soon as NAMMCO is working on this years estimation date gathered earlier this year. There first reaction for the first date they got in was that the numbers of pilot whales, and other species, were relatively hight compared to earlier data. The final estimation will tell us more as it will later be published when they are ready to do so.
Of course NAMMCO would publish high figures for pilot whale populations. It's in their interests to promote more killing of cetaceans, as all the nations and organizations within NAMMCO can only be considered as biased.
According to research. The island is outside of Europe, so it's an island that reaches temperatures under 0 degrees which is freezing which means, that community needs to hunt whales in order to survive and not freeze, because whales provide blubber, and blubber is a fat that stores warmth, so the consumers that are eating whales are staying warm, alive, and that's their culture and food. Blubber is a food source for Eskimos, so they would fall under the eskimo traits of survival needs, so they hunt whales for survival. Around 49,000 civilians live in the Paroah Islands, that's not a lot of people, so that means that's their main food of survival for the Danish people, and the Island is composed of rain, cold, and snow weather all year round. So they eat whales to survive and stay alive so they won't freeze to death. Paroah Island doesn't have any trees, so it doesn't produce foods other countries have, which means that their food supply is at shortage, so they rely on the ocean to eat and for warmth to stay alive. Paroah Island can get as cold as -30 degrees. That's freezing eskimo weather, so the blubber the whales have which is their food, is the reason those people haven't frozen to death and died. And they share their food supply, so they eat the whales and don't hunt for sport and just to kill. They eat their whales to stay warm which is their omega fatty foods to retain heat.
@Lydia Ponce You are not that thorough with your research, as you clearly have skipped over some very important facts. 100 years ago these islanders ate whale and dolphin meat for survival, however nowadays it is eaten as a luxury. Mainly because there are many many other alternatives, such as 70,000 sheep, salmon farms and a large fishing industry. Not only that, their shops are packed full of food just like any western country supermarket. The meat is highly toxic with methyl mercury and other PCB's so large amounts are eventually dumped or secretely fed to their salmon farms. Lastly there is no such place as the 'Paroah' islands, they are called the Faroe islands.
My mistake, I realized my research was based on Sea Shepherd articles and we all know they are not trustworthy. After some research I found out that around 20 to 35 % of their annual consumption of meat comes from these non endangered pilot whales. Meaning it is not a luxary food for them, but a vital source of free food for the locals that they highly appreciate. Having these local resources helps the islanders be less dependent on having to import all food from abroad, and that helps the local household economy as imported food on those islands is among the most expensive food in the world. The man made toxins in the ocean and its animals is not a thing caused by these locals, but something the locals for decades have tried to make the rest of the world aware of and get us in the industrialized world to stop killing the oceans and their food with our industrialized pollution in the oceans. Sea Shepherd is well aware of this problem, but since it is the polluters to send Sea Shepherd millions of dollars ever year they do not want to upset the polluters and instead bash some small groupe of nature people, like some big bully, instead of bullying the donors to SS as they are the once polluting and killing more animals than any islanders do. I have since lost all respect for Sea Shepherd - they are a fraud
@@blueheart8786 This is so embarassing....Doing some further research, I have found that the islanders suffer from a whole bunch of health problems and many die young as a result. The Faroe islanders are now beginning to realize that cruelly killing Pilot whales and other endangered species is absolutely pointless.
@@blueheart7987 Ups, my mistake again. I realized my info was again not based on actual facts, but something made up by Sea Shepherd. According to New York Times, the Guardian and other trustworthy media organizations, Pilot Whales are not endangered
@@blueheart8786 I guess I am becoming senile, here is the real fact: Pilot whales are 'data deficient' and so that means no one has any idea how many exist. On top of that other species killed are listed as "vulnerable" or even "endangered" as noted by the IUCN.
Yeah, it is pretty clear from the hundreds of thousands of people who have watch this documentary that they do not agree with Sea Shepherd in this issue.
+Ti Ti It's pretty clear that millions of people who know about the Faroe islands Grind heinous activities are disgusted and appalled, and agree with Sea shepherd protesting.
Actually a huge majority of those that are well informed, as those who watched this documentary, are not on the side of Sea Shepherd. Those many who have not seen the video and only been informed by propaganda by Sea Shepherd am I not surprised by them having a very one sided view, since SS is famous for misleading the masses.
Ti Ti A huge majority of people are well informed that whaling is completely unnecessary in a country where it is one of the richest parts of the world. The islanders walk around with full bellies, yet they insist on killing whales and dolphins that they can only partly eat, as it is contaminated with PCB'S and mercury. Much of the whale meat is simply dumped back at sea, especially in the smaller towns. Petitions with hundreds of thousands of signatures are ongoing, and have been made to stop the Grind. How many petition are there to support the Grind? Yes that's right - none. Sea Shepherd are not the only organisation trying to stop the Grind. Outside pressure from Europe and the rest of the world will force the islanders to eventually give up this outdated practice and join the 21st century.
mack man A lot of people think that industrialized food production is better animal welfare and better for nature than what islanders like these practice. That does not mean they are right. The majority of the people are killing the oceans. Not these islanders.
Ti Ti Yes I agree our oceans are dying. The Grind is just one of the reasons why. The islanders kill more whales in the world than anyone else (more than the Japanese) Just saying it's everyone else's fault is absurd, and to sit idly by shrug your shoulders would be a travesty for humanity.
Sea shepherd really has no business messing with them. They hunt them and they maintain the population in a responsible way. They need to keep their focus on the Japanese whalers
@@TheChupapiPapi "NOOO! NOT MUH HECKIN WHALERINOS! Y-YOU CAN'T JUST HUNT AND EAT THE FOOD YOU LIKE IN YOUR OWN HOME COUNTRIES!" Lmao anti whalers are just pathetic neo colonialists.
Plain and simple, faroist live and doing this for ages. The people here are surrounded by water, they need to eat too. THESE ARE ALL FOR OWN CONSUMPTION AND NOT FOR SALE.
@@JamyWolf you have no idea what you are talking about because your feelings are in the way of your intellect. Hunters don't hunt till extinction, they hunt sustainability. If they hunt to extinction then there will be nothing left to hunt, then they starve. Thats the rule to hunting. Besides , if the whales were so smart like people wish they were, why would they go back year after year to where they were hunted?. Let those folks live their culture, its nobody else's business.
@@dragondad7733 No I understand that Hunters don't always hunt to extinction, and I do understand hunting is good and less cruel way of getting food but your original point of that "it's true conservation" is wrong to save/protect a species you don't kill it you either leave it to it's own devices or protect it eg: armed guards protect gorillas from poachers in rainforests or polluting less to help save coral reefs. That is true conservation. Edit: Also the reasons the whales do go back is because there not the same whales, whales stay in family pods so if the hunters are slaughtering the whole family of whales the species isn't learning "maybe Ilwe shouldn't go near here".
@@JamyWolf You are right. Preservation is not the same as conservation. Preservation basically means "hands off" while conservation is the actual physical management. Hunters help conserve wildlife because it keeps populations from reaching their carrying capacity. Carrying capacity is the maximum number of individuals in a population that the ecosystem can support, usually limited by food. It is important to remember that this whale species is not endangered and although it seems like a lot, the Faroe people are not killing enough whales from the population to hurt the species as a whole. Whale are often characterized as a charismatic species, meaning a species that has symbolic value or widespread popular appeal, so many people have negative opinions for whale hunting. For many whale species, hunting is detrimental to the population, but for this species it is not. However, it is important to remember that whale hunting for the Faroe people is no different than any other form of hunting for the rest of the world. It is how they survive.
And that little soyboy 100% would not die for a tuna, but it's a good phrase to throw around at Erasmus parties to dreadlocked girls smelling of patchouli to get laid
it's unfair to put them in the spotlight and try to stop their local tradition while we live in huge nations with multibillion companies slaughtering cattle, pigs, chicken, sheep, etc on a much bigger scale. we are all wrong, we just ignore that because we don't see it happening.
I do not get Sea Shepherd. The pilot whales are not even endangered. Yes, the slaughter is bloody, but would you claim the food we eat has shed no blood?
+Magma M There are many reasons why the Grind should stop, such as it is Non-sustainable, Cruel slaughtering methods, endangered dolphins are killed that are on the CITES list, the meat is contaminated with heavy metals, they only eat meat as a delicacy which means it is a luxury, and they kill the dolphins and whales in the name of FUN. Read this article as to what can happen with the Grind: uk.whales.org/blog/2013/07/when-things-go-wrong
Magma M So where did I say Pilot whales are endangered? They are however considered "data deficient" In other words there has been no scientific studies done on Pilot whale populations, and no one has any idea as to how many there are existing. . This however is a poor reason to go ahead and kill Pilot whales given there is no real empirical evidence to back up whale populations. Back in 1966 fish stocks completely collapsed and all the while there were so called "experts" telling everyone that stocks were more or less unlimited, much like we here today about Pilot whales in the North Atlantic. Whale hunting in the Faroes is NOT "sustainable". According to ASCOBANS / Conservation of Migratory Species of Wild Animals (CMS) convention secretariat staff (same offices). Faroese whale hunts are NOT designated ‘sustainable’ under ASCOBANS due both to lack of accurate pilot whale population data and the ocean areas covered by the treaty in regards to Appendix II species. The grindadrap has not been declared 'sustainable' by the CMS for the same reasons as confirmed again on the 28th January 2016 by the ASCOBANS coordinator & CMS Marine Mammals Officer based in Bonn, Germany.
mack man When you said it is not sustainable. But according to the number of pilot whales there are there, the number of whales these islanders take out and the reproduction rate of the pilot whales there is nothing that indicated this to be unsustainable. That is also what I have read in articles in The Guardian and more.
Magma M Reproducton rates are based on a population that can replace itself. However as I said no one knows how many Pilot whales there are in the North Atlantic. So any extrapolated offspring can not be considered as reliable evidence. In addition tissue contamination through pollution, and other man made threats reduces the population even further. What you read in the Guardian is not always true. Our oceans are in trouble and are dying. When our oceans die we die, sadly I doubt you know or even care.
@Revanta Das Gupta they are not gonna get endangerd if you used you fucking ears they said they only kill some of the groups that Come in so they dont get endangerd
@@leikidal-christiansen5031 I'm not against using natural resources But they kill all the members of that pod. PREGNANT MOTHERS, CALVES OF ALL AGES and they only have calves every three to six years with a gestation of 12-16 months weaned after 18-44 months. Female taking eight years to mature and males take 12-13 years. How long can that go on for when they do not touch manly fetuses, calves and ill with some seeming healthy Long-finned pilot whales they just dump in the ocean. That are "strictly protected" under the Berne convention that demark is responsible for faroe island foreign policy. The Grind is Not need an longer but now it is a emotional attachment to cultural heritage in which one whale was use as a chopping board which is extremely painful and four minutes slow death. The meat and blubber is not good for human consumption because of the Mercury from pilot whale meat adversely affects the foetal development of the nervous system. The mercury effect is still detectable during adolescence. The mercury from the maternal diet affects the blood pressure of the children. The contaminants of the blubber adversely affect the immune system so that the children react more poorly to immunizations. Contaminants in pilot whales appear to increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease in those who often eat pilot whale. The risk of hypertension and arteriosclerosis of the carotid arteries is increased in adults who have an increased exposure to mercury. Septuagenarians with type 2 diabetes or impaired fasting glycaemia tended to have higher PCB concentrations and higher past intake of traditional foods, especially during childhood and adolescence. Impaired insulin secretion appears to constitute an important part of the type 2 diabetes pathogenesis associated with exposure to persistent lipophilic food contaminants . So there is no point for the pilot whales to be kill.
I want these people arrested so bad I'm goin to start a organization called anti seashapard and I was go out and stop these idiots from stealing and trying to hurt someone's family
These people should be proud of there traditions. While everyone is crying like snowflakes. There living situation is different and easy to see. Unless you are blind and foolish.
The opposition to the grind is almost entirely emotional. I'm a Newfoundlander and Sea Shepherd is always attacking Newfoundland over the seal hunt. The seal hunt and the grind are a lot more humane than the factories where most of the SS twitter warriors get their meat.
Well... you could say the exact same if it had been cannibalism that they had been practicing on the Faroe Islands for the past 1.000 years and people were outraged by that. Arh, such opposition is just entirely emotional. Could be that it's entirely emotional, but that doesn't make cannibalism or whaling okay. Pilot whales are highly intelligent creatures, they have brains that are twice as big and heavy as the human brain, and contains more neocortical neurons than any other animal on planet earth, including humans. The recognize themselves in the mirror, they have culture, they have highly complex language, they even have names for each other. You can't compare cetaceans to other species, such as seal, pig, cow or chicken. Cetaceans are in a completely different league all together, they are regarded by virtually all scientists that have anything to say about the subject, as the second most intelligent animals on planet earth, second only to humans and ahead of all the other great apes and elephants. Seals, pigs, cows, dogs and other animals of similar levels of intelligence, are on a bicycle, cetaceans are on a jet plane and humans are in spacecraft. The hunt for grind is not humane. The animals are terrified as they are hunted around for hours and made to flee towards the ambush near shore, where they will quickly be surrounded and slaughtered by the thousands in front of each other. Some of the animals are left squiggling, squirming and suffering on the beach as they bleed out. You wouldn't offer a pig that sort treatment, you wouldn't even do that to an animal in the woods. It resembles the parforce hunting of the past, that was popular amongst royals across europe back in the medievals.
Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest, Scandinavians, Japanese, Inuit, and South Koreans from 6000 bc have been hunting and eating whales similar to Americans hunting deer. Whale species grow to various sizes and reproduce at different rates, this is known to whalers, whom make informed decisions about herd populations, similar to trying raising cattle for meat. These animals had been living in the wild without relying on human inputs and were hunted so people could eat them. Can you think of a more ethical food?
THEY NEVER USED JET SKIES AND POWER BOATS TO HAVE FUN DESTROYING dolhins with propelers etc . you can check the vids on that. DONT GO THERE. AND NOT WHEN IS DOLPHIN SEASON: es un pais rico de primer mundo que se separo de la unon europea pero sigue bajo bandera dinamarquesa para poder explotar indiscriminadamente el oceano sin atenerse a las leyes de la union europea sobre depredacion. tremenda jugada. ademas hay 2 ovejas por cada habitante y es su otra mayor fuente de ingresos junto al turismo. gastaron 140 millones de euros en tuneles submarinos para rutas entre puebluchos de pocs habitantes porque les sobra el dinero. THEY DOLPHIN KILLERS SHOOT A DRONE WITH A SHOTGUN WHEN SOMEONE TRYIED TO DOCUMENT THE MASS KILINGS OF CETACEANS IN FEROE.!!! MASS KILINGS OF DOLPHINS IN SUFFERING EVERY YEAR....THEY DON´T EVEN EAT THEM AND THROW IT AWAY BECAUSE THEIR POPULATION IS VERY LOW !!! THEY HAVE SHEEP ALL OVER THE ISLAND. THEY SPENT 140 MILLON EUROS IN CAR TUNELS AND ROADS BUT THEY STILL SLAUGHTER DOLPHINS FOR MEAT HAVING SHEEP AND MONEY ? THEY SAY IS TRADITION AND TEACH THEIR KIDS TO PUT AN AXE TO THE HEAD OF DOLPHINS ON THE BEACH. THEY KILLED 1500 LAST YEAR- BEASTS. WE ARE NOT ALONE, PLEASE GO TO EVERY FAROE ISLAN TOURIST VIDEO AND COPY PASTE THIS: An international Declaration of Rights for Cetaceans was formulated in 2010 declaring dolphins and whales as “persons” to be afforded “non-human rights”, including freedom of movement and residence and not to be killed, captured, bred, or enslaved. A subsequent global movement for cetacean rights was launched in 2012.Aug 3, 2017 PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT MASS MURDER IN FAROE ISLANDS AND GENOCIDE TO INOCENT CREATURES, WATCH THE VIDEO TO BE INFORMED. FAROE ISLAN HABITANTS ARE PART OF THIS IF THEY DON´T DO NOTHING ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM VIDEO HERE. THEY ALSO SHOOT A DRONE TRYING TO DOCUMENT THE SLAUGHTERING IN OTHER VIDEO ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-shjLPtvufDc.html
What do you mean leave then alone these are living creatures that do no harm and are hard to find in some places and these pricks and killing them could you imagine you being that dolphin and you getting stabbed and dying a slow death with your family cousins and friends that's a nice way isintn it these people are bastard big ones
This documentary was very well written and completely neutral, that is a rarity on the internet. Most people would agree that the sea shepherds are fighting for a good cause, but they should rather be focusing on pollution and excessive industrial waste instead. It would have much more impact globally and it would not inspire conflict. Worst part is; they know this. What they said at (6:00) is absurd and it could lead people to believe that they just want to take the easy route instead of actually solving the problem. Their rhetorical techniques are all over the place, they have no sense of debate and will say weird things.14:19 Comparing the grind to the killing of people was dumb and will lead to nothing but conflict. If they really wanted to stop the grind they could have solely played on the health factor which would almost certainly have granted new laws regarding the practice. Instead of appealing to logic they try to be as annoying as possible ultimately getting them arrested and deported. Absolute disaster.
I don't get some Humans. They always have a go at other people's culture and how they live and what they eat. It's like they don't like black bears hunted for meat in Canada. And seals in Alaska. And kangaroos in Australia. And monkeys in South America. And horses and donkeys in the middle East. There is nothing wrong with people hunting to eat . What they eat in there culture. And it's none of our business either. Certain people have totally lost it. And understand nothing about keeping animals under control. There's huge problems with feral horse's feral goat's. Feral cats. Feral camel's. Feral pigs . Feral donkeys. Feral water buffalo. In Australia and the massive amounts of damage they are doing to the waterways. Watering Holes. Eco system. Distroying everything. And people don't want them culled for meat and skin's. They need to grow up. Whale's have bred up to huge numbers around the world. There's nothing wrong with them. Culling them to eat.
Sorry but that's not true. I had a lot of debates with the islanders and most of them don't even believe their own head doctor. They just write "No its not true, Whale meat has no mercury or PCP that's all propaganda from Sea Shepard". And SS IS doing more than any other organization arround the world against industrial fishing, ghostnets, they are helping to enforce the laws, pulled ghostnets and other "killer nets" out of sanctuaries. Interpol and some governments are working with them now and that's the luck of the barbarians of the islands!!! The story with SS is NOT over :when Denmark is sending their police officers to the foroer islands, using their navy than they have to respect EU laws and they say killing whales and daulphins is not allowed. Yes it's reported neutral, but you see how many people are against butchering these animals. It doesn't matter how neutral you are. It's just wrong and time that Denmark shows the foroer islands how to behave or the EU has to put them under sanctions or kick them out. I am not willing to pay for this shit.
@@melpeddle7243 AGAIN Sea Shepard is now working since years all over the world with Interpol and with governments. And these animals don't belong to you. You are STEALING them from the ocean. Barbarians
i've been to the Faroes many times, as it's where my wife is from, and have participated several times. i can guarantee you that it is humane and strictly for food. also, whale is very tasty.
Great well balanced real documentary. Some of the biggest protectors and lovers of nature are indeed the very nature people who depend on the nature and its animals for survival.
The documentary also points out: There is the recommendation from the Faroese doctor (at 15:43 ) not to eat whale meat as it is highly toxic. Faroese don't eat whale meat any more as 'food' rather than a delicacy. Again there is the Faroese mother ( 16:35 )stating that killing whales is pointless. These are two good and outstanding islanders that have realized that the Grind is morally bankrupt. The islanders are driven by the outdated idea that it's a 'tradition' and that's what they have always done. Their motive for killing whales and dolphins is hollow, irrational and pointless.
mack man Tell me what doctor does not agree with the facts that humans should also not eat to much candy, drink to much wine, winegums, fries or just about anything in life that makes life worth living. Living healthy is not so much about what you eat as it is more about the amounts of things you consume. If you drink a glass of wine seldomly it is all fine. If you consume it to often your body will protest. Even if you drink the healthiest clean water you can find in to big doses you will also die. And it is fact proven that humans die faster eating any typical industrialized food than the food these natives prefer to eat. There is a reason for why these natives are among the healthiest and longest living humans on this planet.
ottatiotta Trying to claim that Whale and dolphin is not toxic - is absurd. Of course there are toxic impurities in all foods, but not in the large quantities that are in the meat of cetaceans. Faroe islanders have the highest blood levels of mercury in the world, and this is reflected in numerous health problems. Chief medical officers of the Faroe Islands have recommended that Pilot whales *no longer be considered fit for human consumption*, because they are toxic - as revealed by research on the Faroes themselves. Chief medical officers Pál Weihe and Høgni Debes Joensen announced that pilot whale meat and blubber contains too much mercury, PCBs and DDT derivatives to be safe for human consumption. The Faroe islanders have the highest levels of mercury in their blood in the world. Their work has revealed damage to fetal neural development, high blood pressure, and impaired immunity in children, as well as increased rates of Parkinson’s disease, circulatory problems and possibly infertility in adults.
mack man All food is in some degrees affected by pollution. The point is that eating any typical industrialized food is not more healthy or better than what these prefer
ottatiotta That's just absurd to say that toxic whale meat is the same as any other food. The meat has been condemned as not safe to eat. Can you name any other food that has the same status? That's right there are virtually none, and if there are, they certainly would not be for sale.
Gotta love people who feel the need to travel halfway around the world to tell the natives how to live their lives. I love it when Pamela Anderson, a rich white grill that lives in Malibu, CA (or with whatever rich guy she's currently banging), tells the one guy "I'm vegan." However, not eating meats is a new world development. Since the beginning of time, man has lived off animals. Strictly plant based diets are a modern fad. Not eating meats isn't natural. This is only a recent trend in last last hundred years or less and if you want to live that way, fantastic. But don't demonize those individuals who choose not to. The majority of the worlds population still include meat as part of a healthy and balanced diet. People that consume meat are not the weird ones. YOU ARE.
@@stefania_demon_you_love_9985 It potentially is. If they throw the cigs in the ocean after smoking, they're releasing heavy metals such as polonium (yes, polonium, albeit in tiny concentrations) along with a plethora of organic compounds (benzene, etc.).
@@stefania_demon_you_love_9985 Also corporate farms in general do damage to the ecosystem. Allowing yourself to partake in a luxury crop such as tobacco is pretty hypocritical.
It’s not trophy hunting, it’s hunting for food. It’s a tradition that survived hundreds of years, and once again for the people in the back - it’s hunting for FOOD.
@@williamolsen8464 I live in the hawaii and hunt and farm for food so fuck you and the shithole country of America always sticking their big nose in everybody's business
I think the farose residents are polite and humane ppl. I don't think they are barbaric at all after watchin this whole doc. The sea shepherds as much as i admire their intentions are overeacting. The way the farose ppl distribute the meats are like hari raya haji when muslims distributes meat from slaughtered sheeps n cows for the community or less fortunate.
+Silvara RavenHeart There are many reasons why the Grind should stop, such as it is Non-sustainable, cruel slaughtering methods, endangered dolphins are killed that are on the CITES list, the meat is contaminated with heavy metals, they only eat meat as a delicacy which means it is a luxury, and they kill the dolphins and whales in the name of FUN. I can go into more detail if you need me to. Read this article as to what can happen with the Grind: uk.whales.org/blog/2013/07/when-things-go-wrong
+mack man 1. All the meat from the killed whales get consumed so there's no waste. Therefore there's no need to mention that it is a delicacy (which I'm not sure you're right about) or to say that they are doing it for fun! 2. It's not a cruel way of killing the whales. They die instantly! People only react because of the blood which turn the sea red. 3. It is sustainable! In fact the pilot whale population has a very good chance of increasing as the whaling industry is over in the area. 4. The meat might be bad for your health but that is the faroese peoples problem. All they do is gathering food as local as they can which should be nothing but praised.
Jonas Waclaw 1.Unused Whale meat is dumped back at sea - There are many times when the Grind kills more whales than can be processed, especially in the smaller villages where the meat can not be processed in time before the meat goes off. For example :Víðvík 11th of November 2010: 62 pilot whales are driven into the remote bay far too late in the day while darkness is already falling. It is decided to kill the animals and come back the next day in order to flense them. By then, the meat and blubber of many of the carcasses has started to rot and the bulk of the meat is being discarded into the ocean. Another example: Klaksvík, 19th of July 2010: In the biggest drive hunt of the last six years 228 pilot whales are driven onto shore, despite the beach only having the capacity to hold up to 100 animals. The killing takes place at dusk with night falling quickly and the chaos leads to a massacre. Even a lot of the local people are horrified by the scenes of slaughter. Only four men with the skills to kill the whales quickly and in the right way are present and they are completely overwhelmed by the chaos and the huge number of animals. A lot of young men and women just jump into the chaos, wielding knifes and stabbing at the animals without a clue what they are doing. A lot of the whales slowly bleed to death or die of their wounds. These are just two examples there are many more. 2. The Grind is undoubtedly cruel. In modern abattoirs, animals to be slaughtered usually don't even know what awaits them, and death is over in one second. Now compare this to the Grind where a pod of whales is rounded up for up to 10 nautical miles with boats up to half an hour, all the while they are distressed. They are then grounded on to a beach and a blunt hook is thrust into their blow hole and pulled further in. All this happens while they produce "shrills" or "plaintive cries". These noises are not joys of laughter! Finally they are sliced open. This process could take up to five minutes, and hardly what you would call a humane way of killing by any decent standard. If this nonsense happened in most first world countries the abattoir would be closed down and criminal charges would proceed. The other sickening point about the Grind is the ‘sport’ side of the grindadrap, when a grind is called there is a buzz of excitement, lots of people rushing to the killing bay, there is cheering and laughter and lots of hand shaking and congratulations. There is no denying that this is a sport with a festival like atmosphere for particularly the younger Faroese men often seen smiling and posing for photographs while drenched in the blood of the whales they have killed. Killing an animal for FUN is much like Bull fighting in Spain or Cock Fighting in some Asian countries. 3. No one really knows how many Pilot whales there are in the Atlantic, and the numbers are really a guess. This however is a poor reason to go ahead and kill Pilot whales given there is no real empirical evidence to back up whale populations. Diminishment of bio-diversity is one of the major factors contributing to killing our Ocean. However I doubt you know or even care that our oceans on this planet are in trouble. Back in 1966 fish stocks completely collapsed and all the while there were so called "experts" telling everyone that stocks were more or less unlimited, much like we here today about Pilot whales in the North Atlantic. The most appalling point about the Grind is that endangered species are hunted, for example: On the 10th August local Faroese media has reported that 2 Beaked (Bottlenose) whales (Hyperoodon ampullatus), who stranded themselves on the beach Sandvík on the south island of Suðuroy in the Faroe Islands, have been slaughtered. The Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) lists the Beaked whale as threatened with extinction (see Appendix I). 4. Lastly doctors have advised not to eat too much whale meat yet Faroe islanders still eat it. If your local medical professional advises you not to eat contaminated whale meat then most sensible people would exclude it from their diet. However if you are stupid enough to eat contaminated whale meat I have no sympathy if you become sick. I say to the islanders keep shoveling whale meat down their gobs. It can be seen as retribution from the whales.
+mack man even after all that lengthy and irrelevant commentary, you still have no right to tell people what to do just because you don't like it. what these people do is not against faroe law. it's not against int'l law. it's not even against some bullshit god's law. you and your ilk just don't like it. again, you have no right to modify the behavior of people just because you feel self righteous and don't like it. deal with it.
1wales are only dumped if they are sick and ther are never to much people from other willages come and gedt some to so no waste have you been in faroe islands and se it i no so stop lying like your guru twatson
