The Hi Point handgun has been influential on gun crime in America, changing the culture of crime and how it is committed. http//:www.freefieldtraining.com
First time i saw the Hi Point i thought it was supposed to be some kind of high powered high recoil gun like the desert eagle due to how massive the whole chamber is Then i realized "oh it's just an oversized 9mm"
As much as people talk down Hi Point and Kel Tec they need to understand these are American companies and need to be respected for trying to make affordable arms for Americans.
"Second Amendment rights only apply to whites & Asians who can afford 'real guns' we all know any poor whites or browns in general running cheap guns or owning any gun are just soon-to-be criminals" - most Republicans
Highpoint has a warranty like no other gun manufacturer. No matter how many times a Highpoint pistol was sold or traded, Highpoint will fix it, no questions asked. other gun makers, have a one year warranty to the original buyer, and don’t tell them if you’re shooting reman ammo, or you’ll void the warranty. Highpoint wont.
I use to work with a guy that swore by his 9mm HP. I told him i thought they were trash. Fast forward to NOW… I don’t know anyone that’s had problems with any of the carbines and ammo is cheap for 9mm and pretty low priced for the 380 where I been lookin. I’m afraid if I buy one, someone I know will come in while I’m paying for it.
Around 15 or 16 I bought one from a guy for 50 bucks, the safety switch had been broken off. I sent it to Highpoint, and I got it back within a week. Safety fixed, a new stock(I don’t know why), and two new mags. I lived in the country, was “homeschooled” but constantly was sneaking away from the house carrying a real firearm literally everywhere I went from the age of 10. I have probably killed more animals (non-game animals) than most people have ever seen. Cool fact, from standing on a four wheeler, shooting an armadillo in the head that is facing you a 9mm bullet will come out the tip of his tail. The first time was an accident, three times on purpose. I put a lot of rounds through it, It was very accurate, and I can’t think of ever having any problems with it. I love the carbines don’t care to mess with the pistols.
@@thischannelisbackon5679 That's both untrue & nearly pointless. I shot an entire box of shot shells in my 19x with no failures. Either way, it's a round that is useless for anything besides pest control or possibly for close range dog attacks.
Hi points are great guns,not just for the price. If you do a gun video about a hi point you're obligated to say something bad about it or else the gun snobs won't take you seriously.
I’ve heard many different types of ammo loaded into the same mag referred to as a “project load” because it’s so common in the government project housing.
Hollowpoint followed by daisy cutter, RIP round, Winchester target, a round made of actual lead, and 4 rounds they cut an X into the rip because "it's almost a hollowpoint, bruh".
Well, no police force is equipping themselves with these things and most armed citizens don’t carry them either. I’m glad they exist for people who can’t afford anything else, but they necessarily have a limited customer base as most people who can do go for something even just a bit better.
Admittedly, I used to be a bit of a gun snob, but I realized that honest, hard working, but low income folks who live in these "high crime" areas have the same right to personal defense as the rest of us. Though I have no data, it seems the S&W SD9 may be eclipsing the High Point in this role these days, despite the fact that it's at least 1/3 more expensive.
I'd say now a days in Chicago the most common gun you see criminals using and been using for years is Glock, Tarus, Smith and Wesson. But 9 times out of ten you usually see a Glock with some sort of extended mag. For the past two/three years now you've been seeing people use the switch on Glocks now. Great video
@@Jrh-rp7np Really because if go on social media and see these gang bangers posting videos you can see dudes carrying Glocks with extended mags with switches on them. Nobody carries high points no more the times have changed and people are carrying other handguns
@@Jrh-rp7np Go look at some of the Chicago Police Social Media pages and you will see what I'm saying the weapons they're recovering Glocks, Smith, and Tarus is the new high point its cheap, so a lot of people buy it BARLEY anybody gets a high point that's the thing of the past.
The bit you mentioned with people stealing 1 or 2 rounds from an ammo box in a store might explain why some confiscated guns have an array of different bullet types pictured with the gun
They call this a project load. People go shoot or shoot part of a mag and end up with a few left over and then eventually they load up what they got left.
I assume that usually happens bc the gun was bought and sold by multiple people who shot it until they had their "carry rounds" left. Then pass them on to the next buyer. Eventually you get an idiot with a hodgepodge of hollow points lol.
@@ThisShitDontFlush One of my cousins was concerned for his mother's safety so he gave her a Cobra Denali 6 years ago. I only found this out on the day she and I took a planned trip to the local range. It looked sketchy so it went in my roller case and was never shot. Besides, who shoots .380? After our hour was up we went back out to get our IDs back. That's when I asked a clerk to look at the weird gun. He said what was on our minds ~ he wouldn't want to shoot it under any circumstances. Some people have uploaded test firings onto RU-vid since then and even they're a bit hesitant. It sort of works... however, is that something you'd want to give to your mother for self defense? Before 2020 made prices soar, I believe it was a sub-$100 pistol. It looks like something we'd get out of a gumball machine.
@@DareToBeDeviant well who gives someone a short barrel pistol in 9mm or a larger caliber with hard recoil that the person isn’t use to for personal defense and expecting that person will just go out and shoot it enough to get use to it? (People steer away from things that hurt) a lot of people shoot 380 or else every gun manufacturing company wouldn’t have them in their sales lineup. My ole woman, has a 6 shot 380 revolver, one of 3-380’s she owns. S&W makes a few of them. They have 3 models of the same pistol. One with a ported barrel, one with a manual safety one without the manual safety, Sig has 3 models of the same model as their 380, Kimber has a couple, Ruger has a new model of their last 380, Walther has a few, and the list continues.
Well in the demolition ranch channel they ran the high point through many destruction tests and surprisingly it held itself flawlessly and was able to keep shooting through all the destruction trials. It sure is ugly as F and bulky as F but they are pretty reliable 🤷🏻♂️
@@XanViciousthere are literally tons of videos of these things being tortured way more than anyone would ever do to a sig or Glock and it still shoots.
I knew a drug dealer he thought he owned a 40 caliber Smith and Wesson and when I seen the evidence it was a high point chambered in 40 cal … best paper weight ever
If the ammo needs to be babied, if the slide needs to be babied, if the magazine needs to be babied, if the trigger sucks and if you make a 15 minute video systematically explaining to an autistic level of detail why this gun is sub par. . . It may be a Hi Point
People hack on the Hi-Point because they are cheap, but in 2013 when I was a small-town Wisconsin officer, the only homicide I handled in my 25 years (and continuing) was a recently released felon from prison from Milwaukee who shot his new girlfriend in the face with his Hi-Point C-9. I was the unfortunate officer who found her in the bathtub after a welfare check from concerned friends and family and she had a neat 9mm hole in her forehead. That particular Hi-Point C-9 seemed to do what was intended for.. He's spending the rest of his life in prison and I've since bought several Hi--Points in a variety of calibers. They go bang every time and fairly accurate. Are they better than a Glock; of course not, that's just ridiculous; but if that's what you can afford, have at it!
The cheap gun thing started wayyyyy before the Hi-Point, he apparently isn't aware of the 70's and the RG and Rohm etc "Saturday night specials", then in the late 80's you started to have the Jennings, Bryco, Raven and more "ring of fire" guns
I don't think he was claiming Hi-Point started the phenomenon of cheap guns, but rather that it became the dominant cheap gun in the 90s. I'll admit "changed the way crime is committed" is a fairly vague statement and he spends much more time talking about the function of the gun then supporting that statement, with the primary supporting example being the empty chamber carrying.
I have a J.Stallard Maverick 9 which is the proto-hipoint and that gun is as heavy as a Cadillac but as reliable as a Toyota Hilux. Got it from a pawn shop for $20.
"...It's intended purpose of shooting out the window of a Chevy Impala at 3:00 in the morning..." My guy here is a complete savage! that cracked me up!!!
@@user-px6ul4zw5r how about this…… you’re right and I’m right and there’s another one that’s been hiding in the shadows thats identically as ugly as the 9mm and the 45!… the Iberia 40cal. The Stallard was manufactured by ‘Maverick Firearms’ as the JS-9 9mm in Mansfield Oh in 1987. The ‘S’ in JS is Stallard’s initial. The Haskell was manufactured the JHP-45 acp under ‘Haskell Manufacturing’ in Lima Oh in 1987. The ‘H’ in JHP was Haskell’s initial. Interestingly, the Haskell had its own magazine but it would accept Colt 1911 mags too. There was the Iberia JCP-40cal manufactured under ‘Cole-Lective Manufacturing’ in Galion Oh, 1987 by John Cole and the letter’C’ in the model is Cole’s initial. From what I’m understanding, these three companies were making guns to be sold by ‘Beemiller distributing Company’ of Mansfield Oh. Beemiller was thought to be a brother-in-law to Stallard. Nothing is said how Stallard or Beemiller knows Cole or Haskell, but isn’t it convenient that the three companies made the exact same pistols in different calibers without patent infringments? Beemiller incorporated Highpoint in 1992 and the names of these guns started to bear the Highpoint name.
@@glennwhisler8678 I used to get them for our gun shop in the late 80s, and you're correct, they were called Stallards. Our cost on them was $70 and they retailed for $99. Never got one back, so I guess they worked even then!
I was watching a 90s documentary on gun smuggiling in the inner cities called "Hot Guns". The most common gun I saw in the documentary was a lorcin .380
I have a gen 1 hi point in .40 caliber. It's all steel framed and has the magazine release under the pistol grip. They seem to be rather rare and honestly built better than the gen 2s.
Most HiPoint JCP have: The model JCP has a polymer frame like all Hi-Point pistols, a 4.5 inch barrel, and a slide composed of ZAMAK-3 with steel reinforcements. I purchased one in .45 ACP just see what they were about. I put three 9 shot mags of FMJ, all shot well and I have not touch the gun years. I purchased a used 995 carbine that did not run. I got on the HiPoint Forum and found that a stronger recoil spring assembly would fix it and now it runs factory ammo. I do not fire it very much since I have better guns. Now days the gang banger seem to like glocks. Same carry issue if you do not use a holster in that the chamber should be empty.
There's something to be said for a company which sells the cheapest gun possible. Criminals choose the cheapest gun possible, it's difficult to clean so it jams like mad, and the crook dies when people defend themselves with better weapons. It's actually kinda genius. You WANT the crooks using poor guns, so poor guns MUST exist.
Except that criminals aren't usually buying guns from retailers and it's not marketed towards the criminal element in any way whatsoever. Their target demographic is poor people living in high crime areas that can't afford higher quality firearms.
@@MikeDCWeld to be fair, both are gunna be the market of the gun, even if its not getting bought on retail, from what the video said, alot of hi point where used in the 90's
The reason they buy cheap is so they can dispose of the gun after a crime so they don’t get busted and have it traced to murders so that clean problem isn’t a huge deal
These are guns that are affordable and throw-away-able. So criminals can afford them at low street prices. Criminals also don't typically go to the shooting range or have any idea of how different ammo kinds affect guns like this. This is all great news for the rest of us. On a side note, you can find a BUL armory for 276 💰 ...mine has never jammed or had any problems...it also takes 16rd mags.
I was watching a 90s documentary on gun smuggiling in the inner cities called "Hot Guns". The most common gun I saw in the documentary was a lorcin .380
@EasilyCringed when i was like 25, my buddy was moving out of state, and couldn't take it with him. He offered to sell it to me. I said I only have 40 bucks. He said "sold" as quickly as he realized I was saying a number that isn't zero. It's so bad.
Even today, when I think of a .380, that's the gun I see. As a kid, it was almost like .380 wasn't even a caliber. It was like it was a model number. I never even considered a different looking pistol being chanbered in .380.
Somehow this video held my attention the whole way through. It's refreshing to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about rather than just mindlessly bashing or promoting something.
I bought my Hi Point guns when I didn't have much money and needed something decently reliable. The roll pin is why I tend to hate my Hi Point 9mm or .45ACP. and don't carry them any longer now that I have much better and easier to clean handguns. I have cleaned them and have not needed to replace the pin. I classify Hi Point handguns as one of the best 'entry level' priced handguns you can get for the money. Until I could afford my first 1911 I chose a Hi Point .45 as my handgun of choice. It did the job, was reasonably accurate when fed decent ball ammo and since it's so top heavy with the cast slide it could serve as a club if I ran out of ammo.
The thing that drives me nuts about the design is that the trigger transfer mechanisms are held in place with the plastic grip side panel. Literally just a loose or stripped screw away from a non functioning firearm. Other than that its just a ghetto striker fired street makarov that's accurate for what it is and reasonably reliable when in good shape.
Bought a c9 from a pawnshop for $95. After transfer fees and tax, it would've been about $130. Owner dropped it to $100 even because he was so happy to finally have it out of his shop. I've turned it into an experiment to see how filthy i can get it at the range before it fails.
I bought my Hi-Point C9 as my first carry gun when I knew nothing about guns except how to safely use them. It wasn't till I used it as part of my carry license class that my instructor told me about the history of it. I was like WTF, I have a gansta gun! Yay! lol You're absolutely right about the JHP. It hates those rounds. As for field stripping it, I've reused the same roll pin since I got it, and I know how to expand it does get too loose.
It is hilarious but also a big problem how cops and police forces overall are more and more militarized. With their speech patterns which influence thought patterns, coupled with the rhetoric of war on crime/war on _____. Coupled with their increasing access to military equipment is such a horror show and one of the many reasons police are so out of control. They went through barely any training and are not dealing with enemy combatants, they are supposed to be serving and protecting citizens. Meanwhile Sgt. Shitforbrains thinks he’s a spec ops operator and is in fact just a p.o.s hiding behind a badge and a too powerful union.
My brother bought one over 20 years ago and has never cleaned it just to see how long it last and it runs anything you feed it. Neither one of us would carry it though
The pre-load problem can be solved by pinching the back of the extractor bar. Shouldnt do it but its an option. You could just plop a round in the mag rack it then put a new round in the mag but the spring tension from the mag can sometimes prevent the slide from going all the way back and chambering a new round. But that can happen with more expensive firearms as well.
I had one in a 40 s&w and the weight and bulk actually helped tone down the snappiness and recoil of the 40!!! Ugly and cheap but it worked reliably !!
I like the Kel Tec P11. I restored an original 1995 model, despite it not needing restoration. I had a Hi Point C9, a friend of mine barely dropped it and the internals fell apart. Before that it always worked.
I am a gunsmith and FFL, these used to be the best gun for the money. There are better options in the 150-200 dollar range these days. My first handgun was actually a C9. I was much more into rifles when I was a young man. I still have that ol gal sitting in a gun case in my safe. Also I've had so many "Glock 40's" Brought in that were not Glock nor were they 40's that I've made a list LOL
@@Stolas1777 I see used PSA daggers going for 200-250 I see Ruger lcps under 200 frequently Diamond back db9 Gen 4 can be found around 200 Same with the keltec p17
I think glocks with switches and reliable extended mags or drums must cause alot of collateral damage as it's uncontrollable with such a high rate of fire. Most guns and ammo used by criminals are stolen and then people buying bulk and selling it to ex cons for a huge markup. I think one dangerous gang / rap trend is the Draco AK pistol, the micro Draco is stupid the mini had enough barrel length to aim but the standard 12" Draco is a Romanian AK import that's a semi auto stockless version of a rifle that quite a few militarys use, very reliable, easy to use, not picky with ammo. don't have to clean it mags are reliable and 7.62x39 out of a 12" barrel does not loose much velocity compared to a 16" full sized AK and unless you have plates it will pass and its s round thst can hunt dear within 250 yards or so. You can get a reliable double stack 9mm for 200 now an AR15 or AR15 pistol for 400.
It's easy to clean. The magazines are garbage and it doesn't feed well. It also loves to stovepipe. It's made to use once in awhile and not a weekend range toy...
They are great guns. They are reliable and simple blowback design. Accurate out of the box. Yeah, they only have 10rds but that enough for self defense situations. Multiple calibers, multiple skin jobs cheap. They're great. They are a modern Loricin or Raven Arms. The ring of fire. Zamak goodness! You don't cry if its confiscated during legal trials or stolen to be used for future legal trials, unlike a CZ Shadow or Python. They bees the workin man/thugs gat yo.
They are horrible. Slide feels like it's made of pot metal, the barrel looks and feels no better (a barrel shouldn't have deep lines, should be smooth), has the worst sights on the market, they don't even weld their mags properly. Trigger is horrid. The ONLY good things about these is the price, but if I can buy a used canik for 250 why would I buy this?
@@SubBubz High-Points are cheaper than even a used Canik and the company has a great warranty. If it breaks, they'll fix it. To many, that $100 difference between the Canik is important. There's no denying that it's horrible but it goes bang. Everyone has the right to armed self-defense.
@@cameronking3551 It's no Cadillac of gats my dearest homie. But we're you gonna get a heater wrapped in Benjamins yo? How bout hot pank glitter? Hella custom fo sho. But when ya got nothin' and the opps be sweatin you, dis bettah than nothin. Ya dig? (Indecernable hood hand signs).
I bought one in the mid-90s. I had probably only put 300 to 400 rounds through it before I noticed that the bullets had started impacting the target sideways. The barrel was so wallowed out that it wouldn't shoot straight. Now it's a backpacking gun I keep loaded with rat shot for rattlesnakes. It still reliably feeds and shoots, though.
I always figured the project loads with lots of different ammo in one mag is just what ever ammo is laying around. Parts of mag dumps left over. Rounds from drive by that didn’t get fired. Rounds laying in the change bowl. Just normal life scenarios of many people. Also it could make it difficult to track down a lot number on the ammo and see when it was purchased. Or at times it could be someone wanting you to think multiple shooters.
Hi-Point as a company was really at the right place, right time. The panic over Saturday Night Specials in the 70s and 80s wiped out a lot of cheap gats, especially during the “ring of fire” scandal. The court of public opinion basically cleared the market for a new Saturday Night Special, and once the public moved to another issue, they left Hi-Point to do whatever they want.
i know a CCW instructor that carries one as his daily piece!! and it's just like any other no frills automatic a throat and polish job on the feed ramp takes care of feeding issues!!!
A hi point 45 was the first firearm i ever purchased, it's heavy and doesn't feel the greatest in your hand sure, but for the price it felt much better than having nothing. It's never failed to feed or fire a round for me so they CAN be pretty reliable honestly. They're not a bad option if you need something to not you over until you can afford a better carry gun. When you do you'll greatly appreciate the difference in weight on your hip
My first handgun was a c9. I've been fond of target shooting since I was a wee thing, but decided to check out what handguns were about when I was aboot 30, and there was a c9 for $109 at my local grocery store. (I lived in Fairbanks Alaska. Our grocery store had an interesting selection of firearms at that time.) I enjoyed it enough that I got myself an XD45c for Xmas. A note about Hi Points around -40; the magazines tend to bind up any ammo that isn't brass cased. Aluminum cased is the worst, followed by steel, then nickel. I'll reiterate your note about the c9 disliking truncated cone ammo. OTOH it was fine with plastic tipped hollowpoints. Good video, don't disagree on any points. I do own a couple High Points today; have both of their 10mms. They're both very fun, though my witness 10mm is superior to the handgun in every way. I've wanted a 10mm carbine since I got my Witness 12 years ago; it is a great round for a PCC, and the 1095 is a good gun with some flaws and a VERY nice price point. Question for you: Did the Bersa Thunder have a similar impact? They were another popular crime gun, IIRC.
my step dad has a hi point becuse he needed cheap sef defence becuse very exspencive tools where stolen. we have fired a ton of rounds threw it on ranfe days as we have gotten a few more guns. it was 5 or more years later after he got it that i finaly got a punch set and we finaly took it apart to clean it it gets shot every EVERY so often
I have a Hi-Point JCP-40 that I got years ago for $100. It would jam quite a bit so I sent it to Hi-Point for warranty service. They replaced a bunch of parts including the 2 magazines I had and had it back to me in a week. Excellent service. It now works flawlessly. It’s actually a pretty fun gun to shoot. Extremely accurate. Not as nice as my HKs, FNs, Glocks, etc obviously, but still a fun gun.
Bought one used because it came with 15 boxes of ammo-during the ammo shortage. Have hundreds of rounds through it by now-no failures-which I cant say for my S&W, Taurus,or ruger.
Pretty stupid comment... I'm not a member of the "14%" demographic, and I have a couple of Hi-Point pistols, along with other firearms from various manufacturers. . . Anyways, criminals of all colors are buying mostly stolen firearms on the streets, probably not too concerned with make and caliber. Have you ever thought that people, not criminals, regular people who aren't wealthy, might need a firearm for self-defense? That's Hi-Point's main customer base... not the rich dude who will only carry a Kimber with a custom trigger job. Don't be such a snob!
I had a .45 JHP hi point pistol. Ran good with ball. Definitely had few hiccups with hollows. However I also had a .45 hi point rifle it ran like a beast and I would depend on it with my life. Those carbines with the factory mags are slept on. There are NUMEROUS of good reviews of the carbines I honestly can’t find one person who said they suck.
I’ve never had a gun, mainly due to the weight “recoil management” of the slide, feel so much like a nail gun with how hard it flips that slide back in your hand and how sluggish it chambers thanks to striker fire. If you want a gun that will shoot, if it somehow chambers without jamming, then this is it.
The highpoint filled the gap left in the market that the lorcin manufacturing company and the raven arms company left. Those pistols were sold new through pawnshops and they were cheaper than cheap, made mostly from zinc and unsafe.
Ive never had a hi point, but know several people that have the, some love them some hate them. Just like the taurus g2s i carry, have a little over 500 rounds through that and its never had any issues.
The main reason for jamming in these is user error. Most people buy them as a first gun and don't know that a poor grip can create a failure to eject every time.
One thing Hi Point should get some credit for is they have taken steps to make it very easy to identify if one was used in a crime. They have some features that are distinctive when it comes to ballistic evidence. I think they made some changes when they realized that so many criminals were using them.
