The Gurkan: Last Hadrosaur of Kaimere | Lonely Relic of a Lost World 

gherkin is a word for pickled cucumbers too

@@trilobite3120 Which language?

@@alexanderstavroulakis335 English and probably others.

@@alexanderstavroulakis335 English. They're basically the same thing as pickles.

Pickles are what cucumbers are called before they go though the pickling process The gist is all pickles are cucumbers but not all cucumbers are pickles

There could be more in Kairul.

There always a possibility

​@@joey9833 Yes, there's an Iguanodont there

I'm not to take away from the lively story or graphics... This creature is fiction and non avian dinosaurs are extinct.

@@carola7893 i'm pretty sure they were reffering to being happy to see it in kaimere

Thank you! I love hadrosaurs, but if they survived on a large scale, nothing else would have a chance in that niche lol

​@@TalesofKaimereidea! Smol island semi aquatic hadrosaurs! Maybe idk like 4 subspecies?

@@megandavis3372 If there is indeed islands all around Kairul and at North Ni'Khar, in reality, all of them aren't good refuges for potentials dwarf insular relics species, as they are too close from the mainland and in a too warm areas, allowing numerous predators to exist and go on these islands on a frequent scale. So having relics here is unlikely.

The Metriacanthosauridae are indeed a very successfull yet sadly obscure to the public group of dinosaurs that would have been good candidates for Kaimere. And maybe Keenan would have take them if he came across this group as a possibility back when Kaimere was early in its developpement. But now, it's too late for them, as Kaimere is now too well developped and such add would imply too huge edits that Keenan wouldn't allow. Sure it's a shame, but it's how things are. But of course, without any doubts Metriacanthosaurid were at one point harvested on Kaimere. But they are now among the many extincts theropods clase the planet have. It would be interesting to have videos about these extincts theropods groups. As covering their evolutionary history would be very informative and display even more that dynasties of successfull groups don't always last. About Megalodon, actually, the giant shark outlived his giant cachalot whale nemesis which died before him, as far I'm aware. And Megalodon wasn't actually very particular weak against cold waters. So far, only a difference in size in specimens living near the Equator line and the poles is noted. Sure, cold waters were a part of its decline, but a part only, not a main driving force.

@@dudotolivier6363 I guess you’re right, but though Kaimere, there’s a chance for metriacanthosaurids on other seed worlds. And though the tyrannosaurs are extinct except the Nehamu, much of Kaimere is still unexplored and many more species to discover like the Moørkutlot for example. No one knew about Kaishel or its inhabitants until explorers came and met the local people, fauna and flora including the Moørkutlot. Inspired by the The Ballad of Kai’Hai and the Crocodile Cannibal episodes, I thought about writing the story of a giant tyrannosaur named Bataar’Rex, most massive theropod dinosaur ever known on Kaimere or a similar world. He is colossal, measuring at least 60 feet long and weighing up to 45,000 pounds the most. With reinforced bones and very powerful muscles, he is able to move his enormous body with great agility and control as well as able to reach a top speed of 20 miles an hour. Bataar’Rex is presumably the last of his kin and he never stays in one place for he is a nomad. He constantly travels across lands to another to balance the environments, being a keystone species. He is also the most powerful predator in the world after a few to name, able to fight the largest predators and most dangerous prey like megaraptorans, giant sloths and large proboscideans, even the very largest Kurajaku either on land or in shallow water up to his chest or even his head. He is an efficient swimmer, able to island hop between nearby continents and he has the strongest jaws of any animal, rivalling the giant shark Megalodon, up to 15 tons max. He has a lot of experience in fighting other equally-large animals and knows their weak posts like megaraptoran claws, sloth heads, elephant underbellies and Kurajaku dorsal fins. Bataar’Rex even fought monsters like demons, Moørkutlot and even dragons! How he survived all of this? He has a secret power: he was born with a strain of an ancient magic thought to have died a long time ago. The magic is a part of his life source, it includes being his immune system and this magic is extremely powerful. It helped Bataar’Rex survived the weapons of the deadliest creatures he came across including dragon fire, megaraptoran claws, elephant tusks, witch magic and even Moørkutlot venom! He is the Kaimeran or a similarly-world (what’s the term? Prehistoric? Paleontological? Realistic?) counterpart of the King of Monsters, Godzilla. Sure the idea of a remarkable and all-powerful tyrannosaur like him sounds insane to fit on Kaimere, but not to another fantasy world. He’s pretty impressive to know about, right?

Absolutely!

Thank you! It felt fitting

Houze but yeah, it does feel fitting!

My pleasure! Wish I'd been able to redraw them (old art isn't outdated in anatomy just don't love the drawing itself as fixing said anatomy required a lot of stretching) but it was still good to give a bit of an update.

Thank you! Yeah I honestly couldn't justify pachycephalosaur and thescelosaur radiation at its current level if the hadrosaurs survived. They would almost certainly have bounced back and taken over before other large fauna could evolve.

I agree, they had their time during the Tyrant Dynasty, now it is the Thescelosaur’s turn. Even with places that have relics (such as the Permian Islands and continent, Jurassic islands, Kaishel, Pakardia, etc) they are usually pretty derived than from when they were first harvested. This is even reflected in the fossil record of Kaimere (such as the Permian Islands being dominated by Cynodont fauna until 15 million years ago).

If I may ask, I have been thinking about the "sloped" back and hump like structure at their shoulders over night. You mention that they have comparatively well developed forelimbs. So I was thinking if the hump is a skeletal structure for muscle attachments, or more of a fat storage structure, like a dromedary hump? Or a bit of both? I also realized I love the size of gurkan, makes it seem almost domesticable, and is another thing that nicely sets it apart from the more well known genera of our world. @@TalesofKaimere

@@Lazerbalde Thanks! And it's a bit of both. There are skeletal aspects and some fat is stored in the tail, but there are also fat stores in the back.

Not all made it gigas and kin are long gone along with all spinosaurids posibley

@@jameswilliams2075 or until the next Kaimere update includes them

@christosgiannopoulos828 he has stated they are exstinct especially the carcs in the resent dynasty vids

@@jameswilliams2075 well that's a bummer

@christosgiannopoulos828 ya I was hoping for maybe some small pedomorphic giants on some remote island somewhere with raptor sized tyrants carchs and spinos

Heck yeah!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yes I probably shouldn’t have used a placeholder. Always confused people, but the alternative is I just don’t show anything then people are like ‘oh new thing’ when it’s not new at all lol

You and me both!

Greater hadrosaur diversity is always good to see. I ran into the issue of if there were more hadrosaurs to survive, they certainly would have taken back their niches and then thescelosaurs and pachycephalosaurs would have the chance

​@@TalesofKaimereWhat's your favorite hadrosaur?

@@sivanlevi3867 Parasaurolophus has a lot of nostalgia and there's a lot of beautiful art of them, but Edmontosaurus might take the #1 spot. Hard to beat the template.

@@TalesofKaimere Totally agree on both of those. Parasaurolophus is also one of the few dinosaurs we know the sound of thanks to research in New Mexico. Edmontosaurus is also one of if not "the" biggest hadrosaur there was! I chose mine because of its crest and the fact that its name means "Giant Swan".

@@sivanlevi3867 Actually, aside Sauropods, the biggest/tallest dinosaur was indeed a Hadrosaurid and a close relative of Edmontosaurus itself, but it was the asian Shantungosaurus.

Fair call. Even being front heavy and running on all fours, probably wouldn't be very efficient to truly gallop as they lack the torso flexibility for that to be a viable gait. Would probably be a lot of back and forth rocking. A camelid-analogue gait would probably be a better comparison.

@@TalesofKaimere Given their + 50 mya of evolution from the end of the Cretaceous, things are pretty open to the needed changes in order for such traits, like gallop, to evolved in animals that aren't predisposed for galloping.

@@dudotolivier6363 Archosaurs seem to be ancestrally conservative in how they handle quadrupedal movement. Gallop might be impossible or at least really difficult for them to do once they hit large enough size. It would be easier to re-evolve lighter build and bipedal running if gurkan faced selection for alternate running gate. I guess pterosaur like waulting gallop could be possible but that would require massive increase in forelimb length.

Thank you! It's from Ballad of Ka'Hai!

Your best bet is to sponsor an episode on them yourself, at least assuming you have the necessary funds. If it's just the extinct giant lions that'll be $100, and an episode on Kaimeran lions as a whole, including the living and extinct representatives, will cost you at least $300. The more money you give Mr. Taylor the longer and more detailed he makes that episode. Another thing to note is that there's another species of giant lion in modern Kaimere, the Cave Lions of Arvel's southern coast. $100 will pay for an episode on that species if you're interested, but it's entirely up to you.

There might be. Kairul is vast and poorly explored, though the gurkan is the only known hadrosaur. An argument against any other survivors is that if they made it, they almost certainly would have taken over before the pachycephalosaurs and thescelosaurs did

@@TalesofKaimere this gives me hope! 8D

I haven't finalized their range but it's possible they or a species in their genus in in Kairul

As it is my main income, all episode topics are chosen by sponsors. However, once my expenses go down, I do want to make some unsponsored topics, and a history of the Assembly is high on that list!

They will have their day once more!

@@TalesofKaimerethis whole episode reminded me of the Secernosaurus segment from Prehistoric Planet. I wonder if it served as any inspiration?

@@jurassicswine Not really. This lore was established by that point but it was great to see the similarities!

@@TalesofKaimere oh that’s interesting! I always liked the idea of desert-dwelling hadrosaurs, and it’s cool seeing it here!

They have a pretty big segment in the thescelosaur episode

Thank you!

I'd be open to it! Haven't gotten any sponsors for it specifically but I wouldn't say no if I got the budget!

Thanks! And it's possible.

They're truly fascinating animals

Give him time lol

Lots of swamps, forests, mountains, etc.

There isn’t a species list known to the Assembly so I can’t answer that

oh ok@@TalesofKaimere

Pretty sure they did. T. Rex is heavier than Kaimere’s terrestrial megaraptorans as well (bull Kurujaku aren’t terrestrial).

Indeed. When the good times were great, the specialists outcompeted many of their generalist kin

@@TalesofKaimere Yep really, in order to have only a few of adaptive generalist hadrosaurs species to survived and made almost all hadrosaurs dying enough to allow the Thescelosaurs and Pachycephalosaurs to radiate, it was an obligation to made them hyper-specialized in order that they don't survived. Which isn't actually as convenient or forced as many could think at first glances, because Late Cretaceous large dinosaurs were all actually already specialized animals to start with. So already specialized animals + around 50 mya of evolution into the Cenozoic give as a result even MORE specialized animals as a legacy. So even more vulnerable. And so, what you have displayed is still very realistic and coherent.

They can do that all they want, but guess which one is currently alive? The Gurkan. One would hope they’d be happy that at least one relative is still carrying the legacy.

haha RIP Triassic Gang

I’d be surprised? I don’t think he really needs a large RU-vidr to cover it, especially given sponsorships he already gets, I don’t think he’d mind, but it seems to me it would be unnecessary. Especially since it could potentially come across as begging which I am sure he would like to avoid. Not inherently saying it would come off that way, but if Curious Archive does their video topics at random it may come off as odd. Not only that, but it could skyrocket Kaimeres popularity. Not an inherent problem, but having a huge load of new eyes may be stressful (obviously if the masses enjoy Kaimere, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind, but having that kind of popularity over night could be an issue). I’m not Keenan, but that is my two cents on it.

I’m sure CA has a lot on his plate and I wouldn’t want to be a bother, but I would be very excited to help out in any way I could if he were interested

I just feel like there's a lot of people missing out on this amazing content. I really stumbled upon it and I've been into spec Evo etc for a while. The RU-vid algorithm is a fickle thing and seems to be luck a lot of the time. Something small one day can blow up almost over night out of nowhere just depending on which way the algorithm blows. Not to mention Keenan deserves all the support he can for his masterpiece. Plus I'd personally love more fan art.

I'd be down if I get a sponsor!

Nehamu is indeed a tyrannosaur!

@@TalesofKaimere oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

Hell yeah they're fantastic!

I got a lot of hadrosaurs on my channel most secretly yet to be revealed

By hiding

As they were all pretty specialized and derived, they probably would look quite like their ancestors just with some cosmetic changes like different horn shapes and coloration.

Sorry made the reply to the wrong comment. To answer this proper: yes!

@@TalesofKaimere ok

​@@TalesofKaimere Would that count as clade or single animal how many microceratopsians are there ?

Not finalized

While they had formidable dentition, they didn’t have multichambered stomachs

Mf slipped under the radar and missed the extinction memo

Seems like the Nehemu got by as well.

@@TalesofKaimere it refuses to die

There are no representatives of clades which were exclusive to the Earth's Triassic on Kaimere because there were no Triassic harvests. This is because of the Permian dynasty which temporarily spanned from the Earth's Late Permian to the Early Jurassic. Since dynasties are periods of ecological stability there's no reason for the portal to initiate harvests at these times unless there were minor extinctions during the said dynasty. In the currently established canon this means definitely no lagerpetids, unless Keenan decides to change something.

@@Andrey.Ivanov damn, I was hoping to see those guys,

Most likely! They were small versatile generalists.

And in which video was this ​@@TalesofKaimere

@@mrcompy3050 I haven't made one, just saying they had descendants at least in Kaimere's history if not in modern times

@@TalesofKaimere oh nice but will you make a video about it or will it just be a fact Sorry for asking about the video

No, although some relatives have some descendants

@@TalesofKaimere ofc

I feel the biodiversity of Kaimere reflects those trends pretty well

The houze deserts have low megafaunal biodiversity, but overall biodiversity is quite high. My statements don't account for all the microfauna, especially in the richer regions of the houze prairies.

yeah not focusing on that part, just wanted to remind that since this part seems to be counter intuitive for a lot of people. And if kaimere got an overall nutrient deficency, it would easily explain the high bioiversity you want in that project - as well why maic was forced to get life from somewhere else @@TalesofKaimere

@@TalesofKaimere yeah i don't really keep track of all biodiversitys in kaimere as well as their biodiversity - it just seems (as a casual viewer) that kaimere got an overall high biodiversity (whart makes the charm of it, since once clade overuling everything is quiet borring , who would watch a documentary of a planet with just 3 main land predators, cats, dogs and bears? nobody... so...)

Haha my dude never left he was just in the wings

@@TalesofKaimere you banished her to the north deserts of flame you fiEND

I should have specified I meant hadrosaurid when I said last hadrosaur, but hadrosauriforms and hadrosauroids could be included in that common name.

There this family/clade on Kaishel.

Thescelosaurus itself, which was among the last known members of the family, was quite large (200-300 kg) so its chances of surviving the K-Pg extinction were minimal. Plus North America was arguably the most affected by the asteroid impact of all continents, so that didn't help either. Also the Dynastic extinction on Kaimere may have ended the tyrant dynasty by obliterating the dominant dinosaurs on Kairul, Ni'Khar and Arvel but it wasn't nearly as devastating as the K-Pg extinction. You may have noticed that places on Kaimere which were further from the tropics, such as Kaishel, were much less affected and a lot of lineages managed to survive in remote parts of Kairul and Arvel. Kaimere being a lot larger than Earth in surface area certainly helps with lowering the impact of extinction events. So thescelosaurs definitely stood a much better chance there than they did on Earth at the end of the Cretaceous.

@@Andrey.Ivanov yep that makes sense. Didn't realize they were that big by the end of the Mesozoic

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