I think it is sad that there is an apology culture on YT. Auturia is what it is and Beringer is what it is i.e. known for making affordable clones with the massive mark-ups, buy what you like.....they are both probably made in the same country using the same components. There is so much faff about branding. If this works for you get it, if it doesn't dont get it.
I bought a used Behringer SWING. I like the black color better than the white Arturia, and I don't like the dip switches on the Arturia. Works great, feels like good quality under my fingers, and the ControlTribe software has very comprehensive settings for customization. One important observation. When I first got it, the CV output for 1v per octave, control of pitch, was not accurate. Fortunately, when I connected it to my computer, with ControlTribe app running, it informed me, that there was a firmware update to fix that. I installed it, and now the CV output has perfect pitch. I would definitely recommend it. PS I have lots of Arturia gear too, nothing against them, especially the MicroFreak. Love it. I also have lots of Behringer gear that is working great for me, no complaints.
Hey bro how are you doing ? man I'm also an electronic musician and I'm thinking about buying the Behringer Swing but I need to know if it's possible to MIDI MAP the KNOBS of the Controller to contol VSTs in Ableton and things like that, do you know ??? Thanks a lot for the help!! =)
@@RitmosdelSur Doing good thanks. I am still loving my Swing. No it does not appear to have that ability, from what I saw in the owners manual. Of course, pitch bend, Modulation wheel, are there.
I'm using Behringer audio interfaces and synths - I am grateful because the cost barrier to entry for music equipment is high. The swing is a fraction of the price of a keystep - which makes it accessible and functional enough for even more complex compositions.
Uli and his tribe of workers are also grateful that Arturia put R&D into this keyboard. Everything has a cost exept when it's stolen. The it's free. Free is cheap. Cheap is good.
You have no idea how much midi equipment cost in the 80s, a months salary for a memory upgrade alone if you were lucky to have a sampler or 2months salary for a cd-rom drive
I've had mine about 8 months, no issues. Here in Australia, it is about half the price if the Arturia. I don't think the Arturia Keyatep was a very innovative product, its a Midi keyboard for fs! I has Midi out (doh!) and CV... big deal. I don't think an arp or touchstrips can be called innovative either, I had a 1975 era Micromoog with a touch strip instead of a mod wheel!
My impression is that people dislike Behringer products on principle, because they are cheaper. It's almost like it insults people that Behringer offers similar functionality for less money. I don't have any of their products myself, but I've considered the TD-3, simply cause it seems to currently be the most faithful clone of the TB-303, and also at the best price. I think Behringers business model of making simple, affordable products is a great favor to musicians on a budget. And sure, they don't exactly contribute to innovation, but then again, many of the big name brands have been focusing more on releasing nostalgia products at overpriced rates rather than innovating as well.
Model-D is awesome TD-3, go get it as soon as you can. Swing is fantastic, and even more so because of its price. And now for a dedicated sequencer. Korg SQ-1 ? Then work out how to fit it into the euro-rack I have now started. :)
@@lancearn7332 I agree with your comments. Love my Poly-D, and TD-3s, as well as my other Behringer gear. Have the Korg SQ-1, just got the SQ-64. It is amazing.
If you buy a Swing is it mostly to use with hardware desktop or modular synthesizers etc there is no need for extra software synthesizers .People who follow brand names and complain about Behringer are mostly not the biggest artistic people but posers with marketing names and brands .
The lower octave of my keystep died after only a couple years - the only midi controller I’ve ever had issues with. So I’m tempted to save some cash and go with the Swing soon.. if it dies, at least I won’t be out twice as much money.
I just bought this because I have other Behringer gear, plus some of the eurorack units. The time I used it so far i have not had any problems with it and it suits me.
You don't have to be from a third world country to want to save some money. I just need a basic MIDI controller to play bass with a Juno DS61 in a live gig setting. That will free up it's full keybed for piano or organ or whatever. On this I can go from it's DIN MIDI OUT to the Juno's DIN IN, set the channel, select MIDI for the patch, and have at it. For half the price. The rest of the features are nice, but I'll probably never use them. Why pay more?
Take hamburgers... McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's all make hamburgers. They compete. As long as Behringer is not breaking laws, it's fine that they compete with Arturia. Arturia's Analog Lab is all about using other companies' synths. In the end, we all benefit. Behringer innovated by making a similar keyboard for about half the price. I use my Swing with a Novation Peak. I also have an Arturia KeyLabl Mk II 88 and 61. Arturia should stop whining.
I have two Arturia Keysteps but this is because I didn't knew about this keyboard. I am not using the USB and soft synth stuff, but HW based synths including modulars, so for me there is no real differences here, apart fro the price - and even if I can afford it, why not go for a cheaper but OK product? As it is, I have a lot of Arturia gear, but I am not religious.
people seem to like it and in my experience the machine works fine i have two as i sold my KS after buying my 1st swing, it is just better, i use one for modular and one for modules. you are wrong on USB - win 7 and 10 + mac at the office all work fine, computers are funny things - maybe it is you , your setup or something you used between the swing and the computer? clock is better on swing btw, way better - rolling a review in about the website seems a bit errr, weird but hey - this is gluetoob after all so have at it... other than that and what seems like a weird agenda against behringer the video is well presented :-)
Hello. Thank you for the video. I'm an amateur musician, and I like to record my own songs. I use Garageband. That software offers many midi instruments. I used to use the Yamaha PSRE473, but I had to sell it and it worked fine with Garageband. My question is do you think this would be better than the keyboard I mentioned? I'm not a piano player. I play the guitar. Thank you very much.
The Behringer Swing is definitely not good as the Arturia Keystep. The sequencer on the Swing is awfull and terribly bad. Just try to make some sequences in step time with rests and ties on the swing, it's a big disaster. The sequencer in the swing is full of errors. And the lack of real-time recording on the swing makes it worse. Glad I got rid of that and switched to the Keystep.
I just needed something tiny with after touch to replace my 27-pound Fantom S in 1 of my tiny rooms, and although the Arturia Keystep 32 is now priced the same as the Swing, I chose the Swing because it has the ratchet, and the clock synch on the top panel - the back of the Keystep is the absolute wrong place for this functionality. I love Behringer synth remakes, and the Neutron is truly unique. The only thing I have from Arturia is the MicroFreak, and although I love it, that 1/8" MIDI connection is touchy at best.
Is the real time recording on the keystep quantized or unquantized, because if it's quantized on the keystep I don't really care if there is no realtime recording on the swing.. Nice vid, btw!
Problem I found with Keystep was that there was a considerable lag on the aftertouch. So not possible to assign it to filter or volume and get a sharp attack. ...but the touch sensitive pitch and mod were pretty good. How's Swing compare?
Hey bro how are you doing ? man I'm also an electronic musician and I'm thinking about buying the Behringer Swing but I need to know if it's possible to MIDI MAP the KNOBS of the Controller to contol VSTs in Ableton and things like that, do you know ??? Thanks a lot for the help!! =)
People whine too much about behringer "copying" 50+ y/o industry standards Did you actually got bugged by a manual having many languages? ¿en serio? naprawde? 严重地？
I dont really do electronic music or hip hop, so I would mainly be using a midi controller for midi drums and maybe some piano or synth in the background. Are there any better cheap options for me or is this it? Lol I don't need a lot of the extra stuff that the expensive ones come with
@@innovational I wound up getting the Novation Launchkey.. lol I'll upgrade at some point but since I'm using reaper I'm going to have to manually map everything and get used to that process. 🥴
@@innovational Thank you. I know. But who has such tiny fingers? I'm a piano player, and this toy is useless, even as an input device. Unless I would wash myself using a cheap washing powder at high temperature to make myself shrink.
@@jacquesmertens3369 I have “tiny fingers”. After decades of struggling with “full size” keys my keyboard skills have improved significantly after switching exclusively to mini keys a couple of years ago.
I bet their customer support got back to you tough, right? Good luck with Arturia's customer services.. negligent based off my attempts. I'm not even bothering at this point and taking a loss for the Keystep.
My local synth tech said Behringer is the brand he sees the least. Cheap but built well. Failure rate is low. He also said new Korg is some of the worst built most unreliable stuff. Now this is one guy's opinion. He does work on hundreds of synths a year though.
The Keystep 37 blows both of them away for $70 more. Behringer should have put an OLED display to at least show the BPM. No real time sequence recording is a bust. I like the input source being controlled on the front instead of the little dip switches on the back. Arturia warns that when you change them to restart the Keystep. BTW they are now both the same price. Not to mention that the new Behringer Toro was supposed to be $199 and now it’s $349. Whatever the market will bear, correct?
oh and there is no 'real time' recording in the keystep, saying different i a mistruth - it is still locked to the steps but allows a user to hold notes or add notes per the division.
I see your point, but by that definition, the only "real time recording" is analog, as all MIDI recording is still locked into a specified division... "Real-time recording" when it pertains to the Keystep just means it is an option for input that is not step-by-step in the sequence, but instead recording on top of the sequence in "real time" 😆
